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On 4/15/2019 at 8:16 AM, bluehibiscus said:

@stevii Do you mean Nirvana in Fire? Nirvana in Fire is not a xianxia show. It is a period drama without any magic elements.

ohyeah nirvana in fire. huh its a normal period drama issit.. okay thanks for telling me!

have you watched it? is it good? i dont mind a normal period drama 

On 4/14/2019 at 10:17 PM, kokodus said:

I would definitely trust MDL on the ratings. From my own experience, anything rated above 8 in MDL, they are good. But of course it doesn't mean everyone has to enjoy a popular drama. Sometimes, the most popular ones ends up being not up to our taste. Different people have different tastes. But I definitely would consider watching it, if so many people have liked it, then it means there is something in it that has spoken to the audience. 

 

I have heard lots about both Nirvana in Fire and The story of Ming Lan. Nirvana in Fire, especially, considered as a Masterpiece. So do give it a try!!!! I hope you enjoy it. 

started story of MingLan, just on episode 10 but its already so good :thumbsup: hahaha 

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Nirvana in Fire is really excellent. It is one of those rare dramas that appeal to both men and women.

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NiF is indeed excellent, mostly focused on prince's power struggle and clearing his family's name. Story of Minglan isn't a xianxia either, it's rather slow slice of life drama about a girl's life, lots of stuff about marriages and household drama. It's interesting-ish for what it is but not for everyone.

 

I actually think MDL rates too highly and is rather leniant. It's ok-ish to start from looking for popular probably fun dramas though. For xianxia, I think other popular recs are Eternal Love (Three Lives Three Worlds, Ten Miles Peach Blossom) but I haven't watched it due to its source being in a plagiarising scandal and Journey of Flower, which I haven't watched...due to lack of interest. Chinese Paladin 1 doesn't get rec'ed much anymore because it's much older, and seems more like rpg adventure (cos that's what it is) or wuxia with taoism sprinkled in, but it's technically xianxia and pretty good too. 3 is okay too but have too much bad romance tropes for me and I haven't seen 5 so no comment.

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New to this thread but I have been silently stalking these forums for quiet some time now (GMP actually brought me out of lurker mode lol). 

 

I absolutely loved this drama! It's the first drama I became obsessed with after TMOPB which is a pretty big feat because I thought it would be hard for another drama to bring out the same feelings I had for TMOPB. I've never watched a drama with DL and YZ and it's funny how one drama can turn you into a huge fan lol they really suit eachother and it's sad that some fans can be so crazy.. I doubt their actual friendship would be affected by the fans but no doubt DL seems like the kind of guy who would be careful in public so as not to cause any more issues for YZ. 

 

Would be nice if season 2 actually starred DL and YZ.. it's always disappointing when an insanely popular drama has a season 2 with new actors but I get that the actors probably have other commitments. I got my hopes up when I saw 'Ashes of Love season 2' on MDL but DL and YZ are only listed as guests.. Hopefully the fan comments don't deter these two from acting together in a new drama, even if it's later down the track :D

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On 4/15/2019 at 10:08 PM, starry58 said:

At least you can still catch the drift. Me.. not at all, just some of their actions. I really wish I understand the language, esp now that I am getting into these Chinese shows (Thanks Netflix for the introduction) LOL. Anyway, they all seem to enjoy each other's company. I love DL and WDX bonding moments too! Like how DL was coaching WDX in counting from 20 to 1 in English. LMAO

Maybe vaguely and/or occasionally lol!   

 

Yes!  WDX & DL are sweet.  Enjoying Justin (adorable kid!) &  Zhang Guo Wei (he's such a ham)moments as well; Xie Yi Lin is also adorable.  I think the only person I'm not huge on is YM.  

 

 

 

On 4/20/2019 at 5:29 PM, J13 said:

New to this thread but I have been silently stalking these forums for quiet some time now (GMP actually brought me out of lurker mode lol). 

 

Would be nice if season 2 actually starred DL and YZ.. it's always disappointing when an insanely popular drama has a season 2 with new actors but I get that the actors probably have other commitments. I got my hopes up when I saw 'Ashes of Love season 2' on MDL but DL and YZ are only listed as guests.. Hopefully the fan comments don't deter these two from acting together in a new drama, even if it's later down the track :D

 Personally, I'm okay with the the two just being side characters since their story has already been told, and really, I don't think those two need any more drama in their lives lol!  I just want them to live happily and peacefully ever after :lol:.   

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I heard this drama last year during Meteor Garden 2018 but not interesting enough to watch once I saw the CG poster :D 

Oh .. and I remember someone mention Deng Lun in MG thread as comparative with Didi (I have fallen for Didi since MG :D)

After finishing Ten Miles of Peach Blossom which I think a good c-drama and makes me one to watch others.

So many recommend Ashes of Love and I give a shout and fell in love afterwards. 

 

After watching a long 60 episodes, I have withdrawal syndrome. I read the translation novel in 2 days, searching the BTS and re-watch my favorite scene again (mortal realm)

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My thought:

1. Who can resist Deng Lun smile! (even without Xu Feng dimples in novel)

2. I skipped Run Yu and Demom princess extra

3. I like that they put story for Run Yu but it's too long!

4. I'm ok added Demon princess romance story but again, it's to frinkin too long! I want my Jin Mi x King Yi story undisturbed! :D

5. I want more screen time Xu Feng as Demon king (since I'm drooling with his costume and hair style!)

6. Why they don't add screen time for post marriage just like in the novel epilogue???!!! 

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1 hour ago, parksooha said:

I heard this drama last year during Meteor Garden 2018 but not interesting enough to watch once I saw the CG poster :D 

Oh .. and I remember someone mention Deng Lun in MG thread as comparative with Didi (I have fallen for Didi since MG :D)

After finishing Ten Miles of Peach Blossom which I think a good c-drama and makes me one to watch others.

So many recommend Ashes of Love and I give a shout and fell in love afterwards. 

 

After watching a long 60 episodes, I have withdrawal syndrome. I read the translation novel in 2 days, searching the BTS and re-watch my favorite scene again (mortal realm)

We kinda have the same story. Growing up with the original MG era, I watched MG2018 and fell in love with Didi right after. Then Netflix suggested Ashes of Love (along with other dramas since MG was the first Asian drama I have watched). Checked out AOL since DL's visual was calling my attention, and fell in love harder with Lun LMAO. Since then, I never recovered. I can still rewatch (esp my fave moments like the Mortal and Demon realms) AOL like crazy and watch/read anything connected to AOL. Plus, I search for anything Lun now and follow whatever I can follow (language barrier issues) regarding him LMAO

 

Agreed with all your thoughts. I would've liked a 63-episode drama focused on XuFeng and Jinmi entirely with only little side stories. More kissing scenes and intimate scenes would have been better too HIHI

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@starry58

I want to watch DL again but not yet found the good one. He's in God looks promising but he's only has a support role.

I'm abut to watch Sweet Dream but I'm not really into Dilraba. That Hang Tai or whatever, not into the female lead also (I have so many qualification for this :D)

The one that seems interesting is True Brothers, that evil smile!!

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On 5/6/2019 at 5:36 PM, parksooha said:

@starry58

I want to watch DL again but not yet found the good one. He's in God looks promising but he's only has a support role.

I'm abut to watch Sweet Dream but I'm not really into Dilraba. That Hang Tai or whatever, not into the female lead also (I have so many qualification for this :D)

The one that seems interesting is True Brothers, that evil smile!!

You can watch The Gods/ Creation of Gods/ Investiture of the Gods on MangoTv (in my location I can only watch it via the app) They have up to episode 37 as of now.
If you're watching for DL, you probably want to give it a miss, as he's barely in it, and uh, it's not great.  From what I've heard, it was shot in 2014, so it's dated.  I do admit it has a certain charm and is kinda interesting.  But it's not quality.  

WRT Sweet Dreams, I actually really liked it, despite some awful and ??? writing.  I like DD, though I'm not a big fan of the voice actor who dubs her in this. 

I think that because the cast is so great, they just make things work out (for the most part lol)     

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Hey everyone!

I fell completely in love with this story from the perspectives of all characters. I stumbled upon this forum and have tried to read as much as possible getting new takes on things and finding out about scenes that I didnt completely understand.

One thing I didnt understand and couldn't find an answer for: in episode 55 when Xefung stops Jinmi from hurting Suihe by force. Its obvious he is very conflicted about hurting her in general. My question is, did he summon the pheonix feather in his hand purposely because he knew it would protect Jinmi? Was it a new reconstructed one since coming back alive? It seemed like he was waiting for it to work before shooting at her. Would really love to hear thoughts and possible explanations! :rolleyes:

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On 5/21/2019 at 4:54 PM, CornishxPixie said:

Hey everyone!

I fell completely in love with this story from the perspectives of all characters. I stumbled upon this forum and have tried to read as much as possible getting new takes on things and finding out about scenes that I didnt completely understand.

One thing I didnt understand and couldn't find an answer for: in episode 55 when Xefung stops Jinmi from hurting Suihe by force. Its obvious he is very conflicted about hurting her in general. My question is, did he summon the pheonix feather in his hand purposely because he knew it would protect Jinmi? Was it a new reconstructed one since coming back alive? It seemed like he was waiting for it to work before shooting at her. Would really love to hear thoughts and possible explanations! :rolleyes:

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If I recall correctly, yes he purposely did that to both spite and also protect Jinmi. He explains it eventually once they both reconcile. 

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13 hours ago, Myokie said:

If I recall correctly, yes he purposely did that to both spite and also protect Jinmi. He explains it eventually once they both reconcile. 

 Thanks for the response!! :)

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On 5/21/2019 at 2:54 PM, CornishxPixie said:

One thing I didnt understand and couldn't find an answer for: in episode 55 when Xefung stops Jinmi from hurting Suihe by force. Its obvious he is very conflicted about hurting her in general. My question is, did he summon the pheonix feather in his hand purposely because he knew it would protect Jinmi? Was it a new reconstructed one since coming back alive? It seemed like he was waiting for it to work before shooting at her. Would really love to hear thoughts and possible explanations! :rolleyes:

 

 

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If I recall correctly, yes he purposely did that to both spite and also protect Jinmi. He explains it eventually once they both reconcile. 

 

It was the same feather. His uncle used it to protect his father when Runyu rebelled. His father then used it to capture Xu Feng's last soul before it dissipated. I just went back to scan through the last 9  episodes and couldn't find anything. I think in that scene, it was resisting being used to attack Jin Mi as it knew he didn't really want to hurt her. When he threw it and it didn't harm her, it angered him as it reminded him of his weakness where she was concerned so he decided to destroy it. If it survived, it never made an appearance again. She wasn't wearing it in their last scene together..

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7 hours ago, bluehibiscus said:

 

 

It was the same feather. His uncle used it to protect his father when Runyu rebelled. His father then used it to capture Xu Feng's last soul before it dissipated. I just went back to scan through the last 9  episodes and couldn't find anything. I think in that scene, it was resisting being used to attack Jin Mi as it knew he didn't really want to hurt her. When he threw it and it didn't harm her, it angered him as it reminded him of his weakness where she was concerned so he decided to destroy it. If it survived, it never made an appearance again. She wasn't wearing it in their last scene together..

 

Okay! I didnt know if when he came back the feather was destroyed. I know he was upset and felt betrayed that his heart still wanted to protect her but the way he kept glancing down at it before attempting to kill her. It didnt seem like he was angry about it. I wonder ifit survived :D

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On 5/23/2019 at 5:46 PM, CornishxPixie said:

 

Okay! I didnt know if when he came back the feather was destroyed. I know he was upset and felt betrayed that his heart still wanted to protect her but the way he kept glancing down at it before attempting to kill her. It didnt seem like he was angry about it. I wonder ifit survived :D

 

I think RY dropped in as he was destroying it - and stopped him from doing so altogether.  I feel like XF is just a mess of emotions when he's revived. I mean he's got Sui He telling him lies and RY telling him lies WRT JM, and as you've noted, he's been feeling very betrayed (with very good reason!) but I also think he's starting to question SH at this point as well.     

To me, I feel like he's just in chaos emotionally - since he's been so utterly betrayed by the person he trusted the most, and yet he still can't bring himself to hate her - he just wants to push her away, and not even think of her since it hurts him so much.   So yeah, I agree with the others above - he''s wanting to punish her, but also not wanting to as well.    

 

I think the the expression on his face, when he's starting to destroy the Phoenix hairpin, and JM starts crying "不要!不要!" (No, don't!)  He's visibly shaken and not quite sure what to believe.  Then later on, when he's in the cave alone, and everyone else is gone - he chides himself - since his heart is still with JM yet his mind is like, "dude she teamed up with RY and killed you, bro - they're gonna hurt you and probably kill you again."        

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5 minutes ago, bluesytb said:

 

I think RY dropped in as he was destroying it - and stopped him from doing so altogether.  I feel like XF is just a mess of emotions when he's revived. I mean he's got Sui He telling him lies and RY telling him lies WRT JM, and as you've noted, he's been feeling very betrayed (with very good reason!) but I also think he's starting to question SH at this point as well.     

To me, I feel like he's just in chaos emotionally - since he's been so utterly betrayed by the person he trusted the most, and yet he still can't bring himself to hate her - he just wants to push her away, and not even think of her since it hurts him so much.   So yeah, I agree with the others above - he''s wanting to punish her, but also not wanting to as well.    

 

I think the the expression on his face, when he's starting to destroy the Phoenix hairpin, and JM starts crying "不要!不要!" (No, don't!)  He's visibly shaken and not quite sure what to believe.  Then later on, when he's in the cave alone, and everyone else is gone - he chides himself - since his heart is still with JM yet his mind is like, "dude she teamed up with RY and killed you, bro - they're gonna hurt you and probably kill you again."        

Yeah I dont blame XF at all. I honestly love his character so much and the development hes gone through. I feel so bad for him, because when he wakes up his parents are gone, his brothers a traitor, and like you said the person he trusted most betrayed him.

After being reborn he is being thrown back into everything and hes still trying to come to terms with his feelings. I feel more of an understanding about the part specifically with the feather. I really enjoyed those episodes with XF in the demon realm! 

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Yeah, he's definitely one of my favourite characters too!  (along with Jin Mi)

 

I feel like the writers (& DL's portrayal) made his character very human.

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On 5/25/2019 at 12:02 PM, CornishxPixie said:

Yeah I dont blame XF at all. I honestly love his character so much and the development hes gone through. I feel so bad for him, because when he wakes up his parents are gone, his brothers a traitor, and like you said the person he trusted most betrayed him.

After being reborn he is being thrown back into everything and hes still trying to come to terms with his feelings. I feel more of an understanding about the part specifically with the feather. I really enjoyed those episodes with XF in the demon realm! 

I really agree with you, I'm the same as you, really like the xufeng character in this drama, even I think Xufeng is the best character in this drama, he is a immortal who looks arrogant in front of and in many people's hearts but actually he is a immortal the most noble, kind, loyal friends, brotherhood, devoted to parents, loving, fair and wise ... xufeng is also a strong character, even when he was betrayed and fell into the demon realm, he still rose again, and never turned bad, he still has a gentle and loving heart ... I really like the xufeng character in this drama ...

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On 5/28/2019 at 3:31 AM, lovecarnation said:

I really agree with you, I'm the same as you, really like the xufeng character in this drama, even I think Xufeng is the best character in this drama, he is a immortal who looks arrogant in front of and in many people's hearts but actually he is a immortal the most noble, kind, loyal friends, brotherhood, devoted to parents, loving, fair and wise ... xufeng is also a strong character, even when he was betrayed and fell into the demon realm, he still rose again, and never turned bad, he still has a gentle and loving heart ... I really like the xufeng character in this drama ...

 

Exactly.  Agree with everything you said.

 

I'm a total sucker for genuinely kind characters, and XF, definitely fits the bill.  I'm SO glad they made him soft.  

 

With everything he's been through, he never once thought of betrayal, nor being manipulative - pretty much always staying true to his core.  He's the kind of person I'd just want to be around/be friends with.        

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