[Drama 2016] Moon Lovers ❤ Scarlet Heart Ryeo, 달의 연인-보보경심 려 \^0^/ Soompi Kdrama 2016 Winner

[thenagain 1,089]

Does anyone else find it funny that Wook tells So “I should have never let Hae Su get mixed up with you,” As if this situation was So's fault. When he found out later it was his own fault for pushing marriage and not paying attention to his sister he must have felt like all kinds of crap.

Which he should be cause he's kind of a jerk, but regardless Wang So deserves an apology for that.

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4 hours ago, Immortal_Angel said:

 

I get he didn't have power back then but with so many years pass by and yet he cannot create his own power to control the others which make you wonder how did he manage to run the country. I mean throughout history from china to japan, etc all the kings who rose to power due to supports and clans, they themselves make sure to know how to subdue the power and strike fear in others in order to maintain their power. This king here knows one of his wives is out to harm others but yet does nothing. But then I'm wondering how strong is evil queen clan i mean remember during the flashback when she threaten the king with Wang So he was set on marrying another wife for their power and she cant do anything makes you wonder if her clan is strong or after that incident she made sure her clan has enough power to threaten the king?

I get that once you become king, you are a figure to the nation, a person who has to bear the burden of his people but in order to do that one needs to learn how to control his family. I mean without structure, how can one rule the country? Instead of running around marrying wives for power, try to create and build your own and with that you show people that you have the power to wipe out another clan instead of relying on one clan

I agree with what you say, but I think with the newly established nation it wasn't easy. Queen Yoo doesn't have say in who the King gets to married (hence So's scar), but she does seem to have a lot of power inside the palace. Everyone turned a blind eye when Court Lady's miscarriage happened. Unfortunately, he wasn't able to have all the powerful families in check. Court politics are so manipulative (makes my head hurt, just give me fluff and a good storyline) 

They don't get there until the 4th prince becomes king in history!  Personally, from history Gwangjoong doesn't seem like too bad of king. He may look bad to the nobles, but he was more liberal?

Thank you for your insights and reply!

[valsava 116,214]

1 hour ago, SukBin said:

Atlast Destiny brought forward its decision to Soo... it is So and not Wook!!!

The one person whom she can count on to be by her side....

The one person whom she can trust with her life....

The one person for whom she will always be the highest priority...

The one person who will stand beside her defying the entire world...

I dont begrudge Wook for prioritizing his family over Soo... am sure in his place no one would risk the death of their mother and sister to save their love...  he is so tied up with their responsibilities that he cannot even decide on his own life to die along with the girl he loves... since there will be no one to protect them when he dies.... its his fate... his family... his biggest strength and support is also his biggest weakness and obstacle to his happiness....

I just wish he can accept  that he is not fated to be with Hae Soo and leave the girl alone to be with the one she is destined to be with....

I just hope he wont be jealous and ruin his and her life....

Coming to So.... what can I say... the Guy is a dream come true in terms of a boy loving a girl.... for him Soo stands as the everest in the list of his priorities.... to be with her ... by her side... to protect her... he will fight with the whole world and even if that is not enough to save her.... he will happily ... willingly die for her ... by her side.... His very soul is imprinted with love for her.... his love for her runs in his very blood flowing through his veins.....  so powerful his feelings for her that words like fate and time mean nothing in front of it....

Even if Hae Soo leaves this world tro return to modern times/.... he will follow her and find her overcoming boundaries fate and time itself.... for his One True Love

@sukbin  I begrudge him and condone him.. OMG were talking about a man that knew his heart went to another when his wife was alive and had wifes approval to have her and yet he did noithing have her with him he could have taken a second wife before wife died but didn't.. Then he still didn't do anything after wife died and she was passed off to the kIng still he did nothing to secure her to him.. He still did nothing after she became a court lady to try and secure her to him and let WS get favor from the King before him to have her to be his person.. Then he even went as far as to tell her he will ask the King to marry her after he has given her to WS wow what a procrastinator and all he could think of all this is happening to Hs is because she's around WS the very WS that's always there when he should be.. So yes I begrudge him.. LOL Let him save his family and keep saving them at the end of the night they can't keep him warm and another woman won't be the person he really wants or have in his heart..

@sukbin Ask who is the better choice for the throne well dear hold that thought I need to cook and I'll get back at you on this one of whom my choice will be and why..

 

[Evelyn C 2,149]

Such a coward, Wang Wook - Just like a boyfriend who only knows how to say 'Sorry, sorry' or 'Had I known...'. His words do not match his actions at all - How can you profess to love a woman, who was entrusted to you by your wife, and every time she needs you something else always takes precedence. Literally telling her to be strong during torture when there's a strong chance that with her weak constitution, she could die, wth Wook-ah?? And then you turn your back to her??? After two days  on her knees?? asfgkh@!!!!!????? That means KHN killed it this episode, since I want to smash a pitcher/some extremely heavy object over his head.  Can we give Lee Jun Ki the Daesang already? Who do we have to call to make this happen? This guy is an actor's actor - right up there with Benedict Cumberbatch for me!!! 

-Kudos to the writer though - Of course we all have ideas about what the story should be, but I'm happy that the writer was brave enough to tell her own story and make Scarlet Heart her own! No matter what anyone says, this drama is to die for!!!!

[Yippeun_eonnie 27,729]

1 hour ago, solelylurking said:

To those of you who feels disappointed by Wook in eps 11, I'm sorry, but you must know it by now that he is the villain in this drama. I repeat. WOOK IS THE VILLAIN a.k.a the bad guy. 

If he is not failing her, if he's not sacrificing his love for HS now and went ahead with his ambition, if he's not turning back from her and went ahead to accompany her in the rain, when will you think HS move on from him and fall in love with Wang So? In the year 2016?

after worshiping him since the first episode I felt like betrayed last night hahahahahaha....he stab me right in my eyes.....Wook here describe as a man with great talk but not act i say....(please don't hit me...)

I love the noble quality in him at the first time, how his calm and careful words are balancing the other princes and comfort HS, but turn out he after all blinded by the throne. To have his family being outcast since the lady SG miscarriage accident that make his mom guilty (while she's not....) no wonder YH is so hungry for power because she seen enough how powerless her family is compare to crazy eomma. And seeing his mother kneeling after her, Wook thrown the love and gain his stand to the throne. 

It's a pity for me to have a sudden and tragic and sad movement of Wook, after all he is a good man inside his trapped body but the responsible for protecting his family is bigger that having HS as his wife. yes I agree with @solelylurking Wook is love HS but turn out he's not love her big enough and sincerely enough to make him prove what he said before, that he will leave the palace and the throne and live with her at Hwangju where he will buy HS all the herbs for her to make a soap. 

 

[Adnana 4,891]

On 9/28/2016 at 0:11 AM, briseis said:

It's autumn 943 in the story considering the Double Yang Festival (observed on the ninth day of the ninth month in the Chinese calendar = October) took place at the end of episode 10 (where they drank Chrysanthemum tea), therefore King Taejo must die soon.

Actually, he was supposed to die already in July of disease, but the writer is either taking a creative license here or the change is intentional. [...]

@briseis I've seen you write before about the current year in the drama timeline, but is it possible you're mistaken? I think that the events in E10-11 take place in autumn 942, NOT 943.

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[After E08, you wrote:] HS came to Goryeo in autumn/winter 942, the ritual in episode 2 happened on New Year, MH died in February/March. There was a rain-praying ritual because of a draught - so it's summer 943 right now.

We agree that the princes' ritual in E02 happened around (or rather, before) New Year. But it was the New Year 942. In E03 (at 21:46 in the SBS version) there was a little chyron saying, TAEJO 25TH NEW YEAR (YEAR 942). That means that in E03, the year 942 was just starting, no? Then:

- Hae Soo arrived in Goryeo in autumn/winter BEFORE the New Year 942: at the end of 941

- the rain ritual in E08 happened during Hae Soo's first summer in Goryeo: summer 942

- the royal family celebration at the end of E10 took place in: autumn 942.

What this means? In E11 (autumn 942):

1) Hae Soo is just now nearing her 1-year-anniversary after arriving in Goryeo. If she was 16 when she arrived, then HS should be 17 yrs. old now.

2) (historically) Taejo will die in a few months: in July 943 (next year).

 

My guess: from autumn 942 (current time) until summer 943 (time in next week's preview):

1) Hae Soo will be laboring as a laundry maiden

2) Wang So will be gone, maybe even to war (sent away by the King, to separate him from HS)--that's when WS starts wearing his mask again, and that's why on seeing HS again he tells her that he missed her

3) Wang Wook will be trying to stay away from HS, stewing in regret and increasing bitterness which will push him to focus harder on his political ambitions (so that he can at least justify losing HS as the price he had to pay to become King)

Basically, I think we can expect a minor time jump next week (a few months), followed by the subplot wherein King Taejo dies and the current Crown Prince Moo ascends the throne (for now).

 

Edited on 23.10.2016: Updated Drama Timeline (E01-16):

 

Edited October 23, 2016 by Adnana
Added link to an Updated Drama Timeline (E01-16)

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MOON LOVERS: SCARLET HEART RYEO OST, SG WANNABE

SG WANNABE – I’M CONFESSING (고백합니다) MOON LOVERS: SCARLET HEART RYEO OST

SEPTEMBER 27, 2016

I will become the night
And wrap around you
Just for today
Stay by my side

I will be the moonlight
And shine brightly on you
Wherever you go, wherever you are
I’ll go

I love you
I just want you
I’m looking from far away
Although I’ve turned away

I’m confessing to you
With all my strength
My love, my love, my love
Can you hear my heart?

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Like the sun rises and sets
Me loving you is so natural

Even if I live just one day
I’m a fool who only looks at you
Because I only have you

I love you
I just want you
I’m looking from far away
Although I’ve turned away

I’m confessing to you
With all my strength
My love, my love, my love
Can you hear my heart?

My love, when you’re lonely and tired and broken
I’ll protect you from your side
So you can smile

Do you remember?
From the day we first met
My heart beat towards you

I’m confessing to you
With all my strength
My love, my love, my love
Can you hear my heart?

 

 c POPGASA

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Wangso & Haesoo fanart

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[MoOnLoVeRz 48,670]

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[akinahana89 50,842]

I love the lyrics to "I'm Confessing"! "I will become the night / and wrap around you" and "I will be the moonlight / and shine brightly on you" and "like the sun rises and sets / me loving you is so natural" in particular. ^^

[special_bee 325]

eps 11 is the most emotional for me so far, can't stop the tears during the Lady Oh and HS conversation T_T

[Evelyn C 2,149]

Soo's loss this episode was actually two fold - She lost Lady Oh, who had become her surrogate mother, and she also lost Wook (her connection to her other surrogate mother, Myung Hee and her fair-weather lover) - He only seems to profess his love when it's super-convenient - I want to marry her, but wait, no, what about my family? At least with her modern boyfriend, the jerk had the guts to admit that he was unashamedly cheating on her with her friend. With Wook's spineless (please, don't kill me - my heart is bleeding for Soo, I'll not feel so strongly tomorrow!) behavior, Soo will never come to know that the reason her friend is dead is that Wook could not take responsibility and made time to be jealous (jealous???? really??? When she asked after a man who consumed not one, not two , but three cups of poison for her)...

[sukbin 3,140]

19 minutes ago, valsava said:

sukbin  I begrudge him and condone him.. OMG were talking about a man that knew his heart went to another when his wife was alive and had wifes approval to have her and yet he did noithing have her with him he could have taken a second wife before wife died but didn't.. Then he still didn't do anything after wife died and she was passed off to the kIng still he did nothing to secure her to him.. He still did nothing after she became a court lady to try and secure her to him and let WS get favor from the King before him to have her to be his person.. Then he even went as far as to tell her he will ask the King to marry her after he has given her to WS wow what a procrastinator and all he could think of all this is happening to Hs is because she's around WS the very WS that's always there when he should be.. So yes I begrudge him.. LOL Let him save his family and keep saving them at the end of the night they can't keep him warm and another woman won't be the person he really wants or have in his heart..

@sukbin Ask who is the better choice for the throne well dear hold that thought I need to cook and I'll get back at you on this one of whom my choice will be and why..

@valsava Dear, I think you got it wrong again. I think those are meant for another @SukBin Cheers. 

[atgirlina 7,947]

One thing needed to be said. Acting wise for ep 11, all were good. Ljk was always good. So no brainer there.

But iu pull it off this time. Khn as the thorn prince between family and love. 

Lady oh grace. 

The rest of the princes were good too, even detestable 9th.

Any chance 10th was not in any of the scene to avoid a lack of acting? He's not too bad, but not that good either.

For the ep to bring out so many reactions. The acting need to be commended. 

Fighting #moonlovers

[sharreb 40,259]

Still spazzing over the leaps and bounds of development for WS and HS in yesterday's episode

Love the scene when he visited HS. When she felt his presence and struggled to get up, she first ask if he was OK and we were gifted with WS's wry smile.

It also reminded me when WW first visited HS. Her first question was asking about WS. WW's hand dropped away, seemingly in disappointment.

I know I'm among those saying last night episode was WS and HS turning point. But I believe even before the rain and kneeling scene, HS has A place for WS in her heart. We don't know how deep, and also HS has not identify her own feelings. At that point WW was also dear to her. Except last night's events showed to HS WW's character and he isn't the ideal man she thought he is. The funny thing is I always thought HS has an idealistic and too perfect view of WW. But with WS she sees all the good and bad. I also don't think you can just switch off your love. So yes WW did betray her and also extinguish what ever prospects they have together, her heart is in pieces, having also lost Lady Oh. So the time leap will help her get over WW and the heartache and also WS will be there for her, and that man knows how to occupy her mind.

[shae 6,319]

1 hour ago, solelylurking said:

To those of you who feels disappointed by Wook in eps 11, I'm sorry, but you must know it by now that he is the villain in this drama. I repeat. WOOK IS THE VILLAIN a.k.a the bad guy. 

If he is not failing her, if he's not sacrificing his love for HS now and went ahead with his ambition, if he's not turning back from her and went ahead to accompany her in the rain, when will you think HS move on from him and fall in love with Wang So? In the year 2016?

 

Some of us are holding out for the misguided circumstantial coward villain title. I mean he is under the threat of his entire Clan of Hae being wiped out, this includes the cousins of cousin's dry cleaner's dog. But, 4th is supposed to be the heroic circumstantial super-villain for more than half of the series, that HS is supposed to spend some episodes trying to get way from. You gotta admit with the body count 4th has racked up so far by circumstance, 8th and his sad face (or 'I farted face' as my co-watching man claims) has some catching up to do. 

I'll add, for those who are disappointed in 8th by ep 11, be ready to be disappointed in just about all the male characters.

[Nindia Putri 61]

Yoooo FINALLY the sub is here!

I have one important question and asking for your opinion!

When I read all the history and some articles, it stated that WANG MOO will be the second king after taejo ( which is i believe maybe he will take HAESOO back or allow so to marry HAESOO ) and the THIRD king will be WANG YO ( which is i believe he won't be on his throne for a long time since you could see 6 minutes preview where wang yo face looked shocked and being murdered ).

but.. WHY? WAE?

In the 12 preview there is a clip when WANG SO and WANG WOOK were fighting over the throne ? It should be WANG MOO who will be the next king. Don't you think it's too fast ?

 

I will be waiting for your opinion guys!

 

Anyway.. try to understand wang WOOK situation with a lot of burdens that he must carry. Wook received a lot of love from his family even tho QUEEN YO give a lot of pain to them and HIS MOTHER LOVE THEIR CHILD. In the other side WANG SO didn't received love from his family for a long of time and HAESOO is the one who gave love to him. So, i think it's normal since WANG SO don't have so much thing to lose over HAESOO. 

 

Do you think throwing your beloved mom that protect and love you since you were a child over a girl will be fair ? 

 I pity him so much. 

It's good that this episode will turn our eyes and heart strikingly over WANG SO, but i think i still believe that WOOK is a good guy. Just my opinion guys lol lol STILL WAITING FOR SO SOO LOVEY DOVEY moment!! ( i don't know when tho but... lol)

[cmluv 1,923]

dear eclipses.. sorry if this already asked many times but i couldn't find it or maybe i missing something, did they already release ost when wangso kissed haesoo? i thought it is ost part 8 but i don't think it is.. 

[qwenli 62,602]

2 hours ago, 40somethingahjumma said:

I don't know if So is the better man but I do know this...

He is the RIGHT man.

Because he is willing to do whatever it takes.

 

Yes, we dun have to fall in love with the best man, we don't have to marry the best man.

We just need the right man.

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I woke up to another additional 10 pages to read!

I really love the prison dialogue scene, I can reach that over n over again.

There is one line that I really want to confirm. When HS says that WS is hopeless. That was the SBS one sub, in the Chinese version it was Wu Yao Ke Jiu meaning there is no hope for you. But this morning, I saw another english sub it says I don't know what to do with you and when i try to listen to the korean words with my minimal korean, that seems to fit.

Please help verify, thanks! 

[atgirlina 7,947]

3 minutes ago, shae said:

Some of us are holding out for the misguided circumstantial coward villain title. I mean he is under the threat of his entire Clan of Hae being wiped out, this includes the cousins of cousin's dry cleaner's dog. But, 4th is supposed to be the heroic circumstantial super-villain for more than half of the series, that HS is supposed to spend some episodes trying to get way from. You gotta admit with the body count 4th has racked up so far by circumstance, 8th and his sad face (or 'I farted face' as my co-watching man claims) has some catching up to do. 

I'll add, for those who are disappointed in 8th by ep 11, be ready to be disappointed in just about all the male characters.

@shaeWook had no other choice but to protect his family and his entire households. He had to abandoned soo. Cant blame a guy for that.

But i believe he could've done something about it. Not then but before.

If he actually gathered enough power to block the queen's previous attack. If he actualy did something while still married to lady hae and her powerful family then. If he can control yeon hwa.

If he let his intention towards soo more open to the rest of the world early on, maybe so would back off? Or he could've married soo much earlier and none of this would happened.