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40 minutes ago, Immortal_Angel said:

 

Ah thanks for the correction. But when he told that to Lady Oh I'm like really now your asking a lady to plead with the king knowing that he might not even accept it. But I feel like Wook knew the outcome that whoever pleads on Hae Soo behalf will get punished and how would he know about Lady Oh relationship with the king? Unless he heard it from his mother about the king's past but still I feel no sympathy for Wook at all.

He had his chance to save her and end it, he lost it which is a good thing for Wang So but if he kept his so call promises to her like marrying her or taking her away from the palace etc then she wouldn't have ended up where she is. I really do hope that after tonight episode Hae Soo finally realized that Wook was just a puppy love and that he never really truly love her. If he did love her, he wouldn't have turn his back when he saw her in the rain he would have tried to convince her but nope he took one step forward but two steps back. If she doesn't see that i really will smack her in the head. :expressionless: and from the looks from the preview when Hae Soo was getting bullied he saw it but both him and 14th didn't bother did stop it. 

Watch next week episode when Hae Soo sees him face to face he either

A. stays quiet and wont say anything

B. he would tell her he's sorry and that he hopes she understand where he's standing at

c. when he ask her if she's okay, she will tell him that what hurt the most was watching him turn his back on her and that she realized what Lady Oh says was true

the throne will change a prince and that she should have taken the chance to leave the palace with Lady Oh instead of staying there believing in his lies

d. He will ask how's her new life etc and she would then return his bracelet back and told her he needs to give it to the woman he love which isnt her and that he should not 

show up in front of her anymore. Then he would accuse her of falling in love with 4th and that she's the one that had that change of heart not him

 

man i have so many theories on how next episode would be between the love triangle!

 

 

 

 

I believe he thought the King might not punish her.. because he knows...

He knows very well why his FAmily was in deep trouble 10 years ago. His Mother was blamed and framed and throw out of the Palace because she was framed to be the person made the concurbine the King loved had a  miscarriace.

He knows this concurbine was Lady Oh - he knows she was the Woman the King in real onced loved.

All those secrets in the Palace are just not spoke out loud - but a lot know. And Wook and his Family kows very well that the real culprit was Queen Yoo - and Lady Oh knews it too - but 10 years ago the King looked in the wrong direction too.

(Hate him - he knows it all - but always chose the wrong way...)

 

Wook was in trouble yes - but the greed for the throne is holding him back to run to Soo .... what a coward - Lady Oh was so right...

I don´t feel like Wook for Soo was just a puppy love... he was the first Person who reached out his hands for her and she falls for him for real... he became her hope and her dream in that scary time.

In all those Situations today  So came - she looked for 8th before. Wook was not even able to visit her in the Jail when she was tortured... a picture So will keep in his mind forever as I saw it... he will never forget happend to Soo because of his Mothers Plan.

Soo will loose her love - and the new Love for Soo will become a lot deeper - thats what I believe - So is for the intense stuff - and the way he open his Heart for her - telling her honestly about his live and hopes... not hiding anything from her... that makes the new love so much more. But still right now ... her Heart will break and she first must to handle beeing lovesick... as we all know it too well...

The Preview... again I´m so angry with the King... for this child... Lady Oh gave her life... but maybe that is just one more reason the King don´t like her anymore. SEnding her to a Place the Princes can´t find her... Ähhmmm... there is no Place So would not find her... but it needs time as it looks. I wonder how long she did not saw Wook and the others when they finaly found her...

We will later see the scene in which Wook realize that Lady Oh was right about everything... I´´m sure for that... that whe was right about him regretting it deeply too.

 

I sooo wish to change the History... I don´t want So to marry those Snake Princess - and I really wish her to see suffering and hanging or something else... Same as for Lady Yoo... I first wisher her to live with a Scar much more terrible than Sos - and found it out for herself how People would treat her... when she is not in the Palace anymore... but i changed my mind.. I wanted her to suffer for a long time... like her son had too... but I changed my mind... make it fast... so she can´t make any plans anymore... 

GOSH... I need to sleep.. whenever I start . I can write a Book...  I just wanted to give a short answer...

 

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In a way, it's good that WW turned his back in front of HS. At least she won't be any more illusions about him. I really hope she takes the initiative to break up with him and return back the bracelet. At this point, more than anything, she should be the one washing off her hands off him. 

 

Maybe she can give him this concession---I hope we stay as friends. Even that is too much...

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1 hour ago, MadraRua said:

Instead he talks Lady Oh into taking the fall for the poisoning. He truly is a coward and I hope he suffers many sleepless nights over it. 

It was shame and guilt that drove him to turn his back on Hae Soo but I'm glad he did. At least now she knows the man he really is and his words, no matter how honeyed, mean nothing at the end of the day.

 

This. All of this! I knew I was disliking Wook with each episode, but my hatred for him has definitely solidified today. He's a coward through and through. He didn't take responsibility for his sister. He didn't tell her to take responsibility for herself. He didn't do anything but talk an innocent woman into taking the fall for it when he could have come up with alternatives. And there WERE alternatives. Not only did he turn his back on Soo, he also ensured that his betrayal would sting like a MF. When he got Lady Oh to take the blame for it, did he stop to think about how that would affect Soo? Did he know how close Lady Oh and Soo were? He must have, that's why he knew Lady Oh would do whatever she could to help Soo. And yet, he still did it.

The palace is a cruel place, yes, but Wook doesn't even live or spend as much time in the palace as, say, So or Jung. Eun or Baek Ah. No one even thought of the notion to self-frame themselves for a crime they didn't commit. I was already upset and sad to know that Lady Oh would die for Soo, but this anger is on an entirely different level. I'm sure Lady Oh eventually would have done it herself, but it's the concept that Wook hid behind a court lady and he took the coward's way out - again. I hope he suffers more sleepless nights, not just for turning his back on Soo, which I can cut him some slack for because it IS his family, but for idly standing by while knowing he was the one who begged an innocent woman to hang for his sister's crime. I can't forgive him for that and I won't feel any sympathy for him.

 

1 hour ago, snowglobe147 said:

Episode 12 Video Preview Translation:

WW: A prince and a maid in charge of the water for the court ladies to wash their faces, getting married?

WS: It's marriage if I say so.

 

My, how fast the winds change. Wook went from saying Soo was going to be his wife and he would love her the way he never got to love Lady Hae to simply saying Soo's "a maid in charge of the water for the court ladies to wash their faces." She doesn't even have a name anymore? Just "a maid"?

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22 minutes ago, 40somethingahjumma said:

My criticism of Uk has nothing to do with which pairing I support but everything with his own actions. They speak for themselves. I have no problems with him giving up Su for his family. In fact he should have done it a while ago when he had real misgivings and could still protect her. But it isn't just about him throwing Su under the bus, it's also that he made promises... many promises and reneged on them on several occasions. This is what critics of Uk have been saying for a long time. What happened in this episode is just the culmination of a pattern behaviour that's been self-evident for a while.

He wanted his cake and eat it too which was the biggest problem. (Judging from the preview he still does probably) 

Before we start to feel too sorry for Uk, let's not forget this: A good woman died today. Yes, it was her choice to sacrifice herself. But if she hadn't Hae Su would have died the death of a criminal. What was HS's crime? To foolishly believe that the man she thought she loved could give her what she wanted. 

 I think we should really think about that.

I agree with the promises part! WW broke his promises too much :/ as I have said before there are things that makes me angry as well esp the promises part I'm not saying he is perfect I'm just defending his decision of leaving hae soo for his family, Everyone is calling him names on twitter/insta that he is a coward and what not for turning his back on hae soo but no one is trying to understand his situation. Also calling him greedy and that he is after throne like what! he has not done anything bad to get the throne(till now). I'm sorry may be because I have missed previous episode (just saw cuts on insta and here and there) how is HS's poison incident related to WW :huh:

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WW: "I shouldn't let her hanging around with you (WS) in the first place. Now we come to this."

Little did he know, Soo was dragged into this assassination plan because she was hanging around with him... oh the irony... ;)
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Today episode hurts sooooooo good... I suffer, but I'm happy about it... Do I make sense? LOL. I hope I do not sound like a masochist :P
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BTW, this is my first post in this thread. Annyeong yeorobuuun... please take care of me *bow*

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40 minutes ago, dears said:

 

Gwangjong? Won't even bother to look at Yeon Hwa? And yet in history, they have 5 children together. That is baseless I think. A man is always just a man. I think they are destined for each other.

Ah, I don't know how this story will go, will they follow the history, or throw it out completely after this. From now on, it's hard not to distort the history. Better do it altogether. Because with the power struggle 4th prince VS 8th prince, it's already different. Just let Hae Soo be queen, then. Make Yeon Hwa and Wook powerless. Queen Yo and Wang Yo are exiled. Then Wang So and Hae Soo could live happily ever after.

 

I'm sorry if my words later on might seem that I criticized you. I'm not. But people should start to separate the real history and this drama because even when it based on real history, this drama is a fiction. We don't know what the real WS feels toward the real YH. HS is not really there. It's a made up story, not a documentary.

In this drama, WS is in love with HS and my guess is he's the kind of man who is loyal and love only one woman in his life time as said in page one of this thread. Did he has affection toward YH here? Probably. He did say he was curios of how she grown up to be. But it safe to say, that's not love. 

But to be fair to your words, many people around the world can make babies without being in love with one another. 

I'm sorry again. 

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Hiii, how was the ratings of the last night's episode? Thank God, they finally made the wook-haesoo ship sink. Although some might think that wangso receives the leftovers of wook, I don't even think that it matters much. Most importantly is that haesoo will give all her heart, loyalty, and life for him. He will be the only one for haesoo even in the modern era later. Just because wook throws her away does not mean So receives the leftovers. It's a whole, not the leftovers;)

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I tried watching the original chinese version when it just finished airing. But never finished, not even half of it. I just skipped to last ep.  I am sure it was good, but too long for my taste.

Watching scarlet heart ryeo i tried watching it again, still cant do it. So instead I just read comments and recaps about it.

What i find interesting was a comment that the chinese version romance was not the main theme of the drama. Royal politic was.

I have to admit the romance in scarlet heart made more sense by adding the discarded 4th prince and his scar. That he will fight with all his might to protect the one person who accept and saw him for who he is. Worry for him. That how he loves her in turn makes her loves him back.

The chinese 4th prince was just like the other princes. No dark background to force him to fight for his love. The chinese force kiss, was nothing like the desperation kiss that wang so did.

Be it the shorter episodes, the romance, or just for the sake of ljk who carry the drama for most of the parts. I am loving it!

Now, why is it not monday today? Who was it that makes monday only comes after sunday. I need to speak to whoever it is and negotiated monday and tuesday to come soooner, like today!:confused::bawling:

 

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SInce we established that So is the better choice for Soo...

Lets delve in to the next question...? Who is the better choice for the throne... ? Wook or So... ?

I believe that Wook is a reflection of Taejo... atleast in most of the aspects... the same throwing people under the bus for greater good... sam justification of pathetic actions as sacrifice... same waiting for his chance behind the scenes.... basically he is Taejo 2.0

Common people will be as powerless under his reign as they were under Taejo....

Whereas So is everything that Wook is not.... Passionate, Driven and Dynamic.... he is by no means a saint... but he doesnt care for manipulations and waiting game.... he is straightforward , go Get It kinda guy.... when he makes a objective for  himself whether it is strengthening Goryeo by weakening the Noble clans strength.... or strengthening common people by providing opportunities for them to join the government.... he can do everything with a single minded devotion... without caring to making excuses for his means to achieve that end....

Toi summarize Gwangjong was the King Goryeo needed and not Wook.. just like So was the person Doo needed and not Wook..... 

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25 minutes ago, SukBin said:

SInce we established that So is the better choice for Soo...

Lets delve in to the next question...? Who is the better choice for the throne... ? Wook or So... ?

I believe that Wook is a reflection of Taejo... atleast in most of the aspects... the same throwing people under the bus for greater good... sam justification of pathetic actions as sacrifice... same waiting for his chance behind the scenes.... basically he is Taejo 2.0

Common people will be as powerless under his reign as they were under Taejo....

Whereas So is everything that Wook is not.... Passionate, Driven and Dynamic.... he is by no means a saint... but he doesnt care for manipulations and waiting game.... he is straightforward , go Get It kinda guy.... when he makes a objective for  himself whether it is strengthening Goryeo by weakening the Noble clans strength.... or strengthening common people by providing opportunities for them to join the government.... he can do everything with a single minded devotion... without caring to making excuses for his means to achieve that end....

Toi summarize Gwangjong was the King Goryeo needed and not Wook.. just like So was the person Doo needed and not Wook..... 

@SukBinThe king that abolished slavery will always be the better king in my book. That's gwangjong!

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4 hours ago, TeBe said:

I like your theory about how WS and YH will get married . WW , YH and evil Queen will somehow find a way to force this marriage. Each of them for his own selfish reason. WW to get revenge from So, who stole HS from him, YW she only has eyes for the throne and wants to be empress and powerful , evil Queen already shares the same ambition as YH and we must not forget that she hates seeing WS happy

@TeBe  You miss another fact about YH going after the throne she also will marry Ws to get back at WY.. She knows WY hates that WS has outshined him and Wook in everything they tried to do and also she can't have HS becoming a Queen over her and she'll have to look up to.. WW is doing it for if I can't have her no one can.. 

This drama would have been awesome if it had 50 episodes..

3 hours ago, andy78 said:

THE ONLY PROBLEM IS SHE KNOWS HE IS MEANT O BE KING...SHE WILL NOT WANT TO RUIN HIS FUTURE...SO SHE WILL ANSWER NO TO HIS PROPOSAL...THANKS GOD WS IS NOT A MAN WHO TAKES NO FOR AN ANSWER!HE WON'T GIVE UP BUT WILL FIGHT AND BECOME THE PALACE OWNER...SHE IS A PALACE LADY HE WILL MAKE SURE SHE WILL BELONG TO HIM!

I'm with you on this one @andy78 I can almost hear him telling YH touch her and die better yet I;ll make her Queen and you her servant..LOL Ws is more then capable of doing this..

3 hours ago, 40somethingahjumma said:

And that's okay. We all make our choices and we live with the consequences. That is life. He has made his bed and now he will sleep in it. He chose his family over her, which is understandable and he's not the first man who ever did that. I've never ever faulted him for that. Never.

@40somethingahjumma  The beauty of that scene wjen he turn his back and walk away was nicely written by the writer but I'm wondering will braindead Annie will get at that time he gave up on having her..

3 hours ago, 40somethingahjumma said:

But for a guy who spends most of his life thinking and weighing things up, he didn't think through things enough. He wanted to love Su but he wasn't willing to get his hands dirty to do it. Also understandable because he is a prince and she's just a palace maid. He's concerned about his family's well-being so he can't approach the king rashly... also understandable. He also gets rid of evidence to protect his sister... understandable yes... but the result is a serious miscarriage of justice as well as personal betrayal.

YH played WW like a fiddle she knew he wouldn't go against the family for HS this is why I think YH will make sure HS knows this about this miscarriage of justice and Ldy Oh died in the course of this miscarriage of justice.. I think the King may have granted Ws and HS marriage and this what anger WW so bad because he wasn't man enough to step up to the plate so he teams up with WY to stop that marriage but in return the Queen grants YH and WS marriage that WY can't stop.. Oh how I'm liking how all this backstabbing begins but I see Ws telling Hs the King gave you to me and he granted our marriage let's leave the palace and she won't.. And she'll regret it in the end..

2 hours ago, jerboa83 said:
11 hours ago, zi4r said:

This is a man that has sacrificed many to save his treacherous mother.


Let me tell something on this specific point: 1) he killed a bunch of treacherous assassins (that's what they were); 2) Technically, they attacked him first, right when he entered the temple. No chance of a parley, even if he wanted to interrogate them first or whatever. I wouldn't say that "he sacrificed many"... He just plain killed the traitors who had attempted to kill the Crown Prince right in front of the King, and spilled blood in the Palace. He did it BEFORE they were apprehended by the authorities and killed anyway, but that's it. Not really different from what Wang Wook did when he killed in cold blood the court lady who had helped administering the poison and overheard the conversation between him and his sister...

Finally someone seeing WS killing justifiable he didn't kill the assasins to protect his mother if thats the case he wouldn't have told the King who was sheltering these assasins.. And besides the King knows she wants the CP dead for one of her own to take the throne..It's nothing like WW said WS killed to protect his mother big difference in the two because WW is the one to kill to protect his family.. The first killing he did was to make him self look like a hero that could protect a girl and he can't even protect himself nor his mom look at how she had to kneel down to the queen for him because mom knows what evil queen is capable of..

I could see why YH change her mind from marrying WY to WS she knows that WY will always be under his mom thumb and she won't have any control with him considering he only listens to mom but for WS it's different YH could get some lead way because Queen Yoo will never be able to control him no matter how man family dinners she wants to have WS and she is enemies..

2 hours ago, bebebisous33 said:

@briseis Well, I believe, Taejo will die from a heart attack. WH doesn't kill him  but she scares him so that his heart can't take it. Maybe Yo and Park thought, she would kill him but she didn't!!

@bebebisous33  I think taejo dies from a brokenheart.. Just look at how long him and court ldy was together her being gone it's like apart of him is missing.. 

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