jetsu Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 Just woke up and 'shot' ep 16 leaked ... how? where? I haven't back read posts and will not be , to be spoiler free ... so I can enjoy my usual SBS live version tonight. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuyukoneko Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 8 minutes ago, Immortal_Angel said: Actually they weren't rival at all. 4th wanted to live a peaceful life and not get involve in the fight for the throne. 8th aim was mostly toward the crown prince. but after Ruoxi warning about 4th thats when he change his mind and take out 4th cause he now sees 4th in a different view. From the beginning they were not rivals at all. 4th wanted just to lay low and live a calm simple life but 8th attacked him which caused 13th to take the blame for him in which then change 4th mind in wanting the throne. Before the scene where 8th prince frames 4th prince for something and 13th prince takes the blame for him, 4th prince tells Ruoxi he wants the throne and that's she the only the person he's ever told. (Basing this off the C-drama, I haven't read the novel. Not sure if they change sequence of events in C-drama version.) 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post millie10468 Posted October 17, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted October 17, 2016 Wait, I'm confused Spoiler Was I wrong in understanding that Soo is not the only reason So wants to be King? He said that if he has to kill people because of a seat, then he'll become the owner of the seat and put an end to the killing. I really don't think he was thinking much about Soo at that point. Also, when General Park reminded him about Taejo saying that the person who wanted to be King had to throw away people, that's when he went and broke up with Soo. Partly because he was mad at her, partly because he wanted to protect her, and partly because he wanted to solidify his determination to be King in a "See, I've sent the woman I love away" sort of way. Also, Soo is back in my good books...kinda Spoiler What So said when he was breaking up with her was brutal. Like I legit cringed for her, thinking about how she'd been hurt so badly before. Therefore, the fact that her feelings for him over the three years never wavered and even became stronger, and the lengths she was willing to go to go look after him made me semi-forgive her for all the richard simmons she's put both So and us through. Semi because she STILL HASN'T SAID A WORD ABOUT WOOK. Dammit Soo. I also really felt for So this episode. I mean, here he has the love of his life saying all the things he's ever wanted her to say (that even though it took her some time, she trusts him. She likes him) and he has to be able to tell her that his feelings have changed when they damn sure haven't. AND THEN HE LIES TO HER when she says he's lying (About his feelings having changed) even though they both promised not to lie to each other!! It just occurred to me that they finally really actually got together after SEVEN YEARS. So had to wait 4 years for her, and then Soo had to wait 3 years for him. Talk about a long courtship. They should have had 1 five year old and one 2 year old kid by now. This episode. I'm done. 29 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy78 Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 55 minutes ago, TeBe said: The scenes are beautiful, IU and LJK are doing a great job i agree i loved their moments...the sad and the happy ones...i can't wait ep 16 sbs version and 17...Thanks GOD i was able to watch international version ...i think was delete... 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chi13lou Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 27 minutes ago, LyraYoo said: Please everyone be considerate enough not to spoil the leak versions and preview. Kindly read the announcement posted on our header. Not everyone didnt see episode 16 raw yet. I am actually resisting the temptation of watching it and just patiently wait for SBS version tonight.LOL Just wish others would read the announcement. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest nchoerunnisa Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 Oh my... I was so excited to download today's new episode only to stumble upon this mess Serves you right, SBS! 3:) (oh... where's the devil emoji when I need it) I'm sorry for being evil, but I think they brought it up upon themselves. They should've just stick to their original schedule since it's simultaneous broadcast and considered their partners who already bought the license. Even if their partners wouldn't mind or have no say about this show air dates, they should've made up their mind earlier and didn't made decision at the last minute like this. Last week, episode 14 rating suffered because of their indecisiveness. Still, they didn't learn their lesson *sigh*. Oh well, maybe they just don't care about rating anymore (which is highly unlikely) *shrug*. (And now I'm wondering whether Youku leaked the episode 16 on purpose ) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Anyway, ranting aside, I just saw video of IU performing Three Inches of Heaven. With all due respect to the original singer, I must say that I like IU's version better . I've been waiting for IU to sing at least one of MLSHR OSTs since forever and I think it's gonna be awesome if she sings Korean version of this song. Oh her voice is perfect for this kind of song. I'm not IU's fan (her voice is great, but her songs are just not my kind of jam), but I still keep her Wind Flower, one of Queen Seon Deok OSTs, in my playlist. I hadn't known her back then at the first time I heard Wind Flower, but I fell in love instantly with the song and her voice (I was quite surprised that the singer was still so young, IU was like... how old was she? 16? back then). Well, even if it's not Korean version of Three Inches of Heaven, I'm still hoping she's gonna sing at least one song for this show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leejoongi1trash Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 1 hour ago, Miky88 said: Not Hae Soo,Wang So He might not have been in love before but the boy got moves so I doubt he is virgin who says you gotta love to make love hahaha 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tentennn Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 5 hours ago, trizha1 said: Okay but...I have never loved a candle as much as I love THIS candle. That's right. Blow that flame OUT baby, because OTHER FLAMES are about to start!!!!!! BAHAHAHAHA THIS IS THE OPITIME OF EVERYTHING!!! When this candle blew out, I was basically screaming like this meme Spoiler Oh it went down all rightt! 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post briseis Posted October 17, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted October 17, 2016 I really didn't want to write anything about episode 16 today but seeing so many people bashing and misunderstanding WS and his motives during the break-up scene changed my mind. (BEWARE, the post is full of spoilers!) Wearing a Mask Again For the nation and the royal family the king must be willing to throw everyone away… Then, who will you throw away? First I want to see that.” - The Grand General Spoiler What’s the most heartwrenching during their break-up is that in the end Wang Soo IS NOT breaking up with HS because she didn’t trust him BECAUSE HE HAS FORGIVEN HER just like he forgave her so many times before, or what’s even more likelier, he barely blamed her because he already knew about that letter she wrote (unfortunately, he didn’t look at it so he doesn’t know she has adopted his writing style). HE IS TRULY LYING TO HER BECAUSE HE IS PUSHING HER AWAY, using her distrust as his reason to break up with her. And for that purpose, he put on a mask, albeit it’s the first time he’s wearing a figurative one. Eun’s death made So realize how utterly powerless he is and unless he becomes the king and gains the ultimate power he will always watch helplessly as someone more powerful hurts the people he loves and cares about. WS knows that Soo is his greatest weakness, so he needs to push her away so PEOPLE WOULD THINK HE DOESN’T CARE ABOUT HER. It’s truly similar to their break-up after his marriage to Moo’s niece. On both instances he is doing it to protect someone, including HS. The second reason why he is pushing her away is the same as with the marriage - if he becomes a king, he won’t be able to make her his queen, he won’t be able to leave the palace with her and be free, so if he can’t live free with her HE IS SETTING HER FREE NOW, BECAUSE ONCE AGAIN HE BROKE HIS PROMISE TO HER. “I trusted you. I know it took me some time, but I truly trusted you. Enough that I would trust you in any situation. I realized how much I liked you.” This is not the face of a man who is angry and disappointed, THIS IS A MAN WHO HAS A TIGHT LEASH ON HIS EMOTIONS, WHEN DID WS HAD EVER A TIGHT LEASH ON HIS EMOTIONS?! That’s why even HS can tell he is lying BECAUSE HE NEVER, EVER BEHAVED LIKE THIS - HE IS COLD AND CRUEL AND HER WOLF PRINCE WAS NEVER COLD AND CRUEL TO HER. And when she calls him out on his lie, he DELIVERS TO HER THE ULTIMATE BLOW, THE ULTIMATE LIE - reminding her of THEIR PROMISE NEVER TO LIE TO EACH OTHER. And LJG is epic because in the deep, dark pools of his eyes you can see how much it COSTS WS TO KEEP UP THE PRETENSE after SOO FINALLY TOLD HIM EVERYTHING HE EVER WANTED TO HEAR FROM HER AND GIVING HIM EVERYTHING - HER UNCONDITIONAL TRUST, LOVE AND ACCEPTANCE! “When I look at you I can only remember what happened because of the lack of trust you had in me. Eun died because of you. I will remember how I had to kill him. In order to save you, I became the king’s dog and my feelings for you remained unchanged. Now they have changed.” - WS (EP16) “Even if the person I want to avoid most is you, Your Highness? When I meet you, I recall everything I want to forget.” - HS (EP12) They are so married that THEY EVEN HURT EACH OTHER THE SAME WAY, WITH THE MOST BRUTAL LIES! This is a throwback to the time HS tried to push So away after he came back to her from Later Jin. So has always quoted her and NOW HE QUOTES EVEN HER HURTFUL WORDS! THAT’S WHY HE LITERALLY PHYSICALLY COLLAPSES IN THE ASTRONOMICAL TOWER (even their reactions are SO SIMILAR, MY DOOMED BABIES!) - in that moment HE TAKES OFF THE MASK HE PUT ON IN FRONT OF SOO, SO HE COULD SAVE HER FROM EVERYONE, INCLUDING HIMSELF. IT’S LIKE A MORTAL BLOW TO HIM- it took him all his willpower to hurt her and now HE COMPLETELY BREAKS DOWN BECAUSE HE THINKS HE TRULY LOST HER FOREVER. 67 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsu Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 4 hours ago, soorani said: Maybe SBS didn't have a choice but broadcast the baseball game...? I mean they probably made a contract to have the rights to broadcast the game..? And, while the episode can wait, the game needs to be broadcast live... I don't think they didn't broadcast MLSHR because the ratings were low and they favored the baseball game ( based on naver/search and pretty much everything else, the drama is doing pretty well there...), but because they needed to... IDK lol Agree with you. Well they did announce if the baseball game finished by 9.20 ML will be aired but game finished at 10. And yes the rating is not that low and with the popularity of this drama SBS will not do that. I was sad that ep got cancelled but ML is worth the wait. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owlcat Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 (edited) Does Hae Soo and Wang So remind anyone else of Tohru and Kyo from the manga Fruits Basket? Hae Soo and Tohru are both very kind, caring, loyal but often times not the sharpest knife in the drawer. Wang So and Kyo both have tragic backstories, rejected and hated by their families. They are both called monsters, Kyo for more obvious reasons than Wang So. They are also both very protective/possessive of their love interest. Other similarities that Moon Lovers and Fruits Basket share, reverse harem (many guys like or in love with the same girl) and both of their storylines span quite a few years. As well the family dynamics are quite similar between Moon Lovers and Fruits Basket. The Sohmas (the main family in Fruits Basket) are almost treated like royalty, they are very pretty but also very messed up. Hopefully Moon Lovers and Fruits Basket will share one more similarity at the end: a HAPPY ENDING! Edited October 19, 2016 by owlcat added some thoughts 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post pwnkl Posted October 17, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted October 17, 2016 Will SBS air episode 16 and 17 back to back tomorrow? Hoping that SBS reimburse with a different version of that 5 minutes of cloudnine.I'm so determine to call in sick tomorrow Spoiler LONGERand steamier? Jk. I mean give us a different angle but seriously it went too fast and even when they both were lying down I expected a lot of close up or slow mos from different angle, SO caressing Soo's face and hands and Soo's look of love towards So but whaat it was damn short I need more of this and please give us a focus of that intertwined hands Ji Mong of all times.. why, why couldn't it wait until tomorrow? 27 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MoOnLoVeRz Posted October 17, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted October 17, 2016 yippersakura IU updated her instagram and Lee Joon Gi commented. IU says: Soo smiled, So smiledLee Joon Gi says: So smiled, Soo smiled 40 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yuhotarubi Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 17 minutes ago, briseis said: I really didn't want to write anything about episode 16 today but seeing so many people bashing and misunderstanding WS and his motives during the break-up scene changed my mind. (BEWARE, the post is full of spoilers!) Wearing a Mask Again For the nation and the royal family the king must be willing to throw everyone away… Then, who will you throw away? First I want to see that.” - The Grand General Hide contents What’s the most heartwrenching during their break-up is that in the end Wang Soo IS NOT breaking up with HS because she didn’t trust him BECAUSE HE HAS FORGIVEN HER just like he forgave her so many times before, or what’s even more likelier, he barely blamed her because he already knew about that letter she wrote (unfortunately, he didn’t look at it so he doesn’t know she has adopted his writing style). HE IS TRULY LYING TO HER BECAUSE HE IS PUSHING HER AWAY, using her distrust as his reason to break up with her. And for that purpose, he put on a mask, albeit it’s the first time he’s wearing a figurative one. Eun’s death made So realize how utterly powerless he is and unless he becomes the king and gains the ultimate power he will always watch helplessly as someone more powerful hurts the people he loves and cares about. WS knows that Soo is his greatest weakness, so he needs to push her away so PEOPLE WOULD THINK HE DOESN’T CARE ABOUT HER. It’s truly similar to their break-up after his marriage to Moo’s niece. On both instances he is doing it to protect someone, including HS. The second reason why he is pushing her away is the same as with the marriage - if he becomes a king, he won’t be able to make her his queen, he won’t be able to leave the palace with her and be free, so if he can’t live free with her HE IS SETTING HER FREE NOW, BECAUSE ONCE AGAIN HE BROKE HIS PROMISE TO HER. “I trusted you. I know it took me some time, but I truly trusted you. Enough that I would trust you in any situation. I realized how much I liked you.” This is not the face of a man who is angry and disappointed, THIS IS A MAN WHO HAS A TIGHT LEASH ON HIS EMOTIONS, WHEN DID WS HAD EVER A TIGHT LEASH ON HIS EMOTIONS?! That’s why even HS can tell he is lying BECAUSE HE NEVER, EVER BEHAVED LIKE THIS - HE IS COLD AND CRUEL AND HER WOLF PRINCE WAS NEVER COLD AND CRUEL TO HER. And when she calls him out on his lie, he DELIVERS TO HER THE ULTIMATE BLOW, THE ULTIMATE LIE - reminding her of THEIR PROMISE NEVER TO LIE TO EACH OTHER. And LJG is epic because in the deep, dark pools of his eyes you can see how much it COSTS WS TO KEEP UP THE PRETENSE after SOO FINALLY TOLD HIM EVERYTHING HE EVER WANTED TO HEAR FROM HER AND GIVING HIM EVERYTHING - HER UNCONDITIONAL TRUST, LOVE AND ACCEPTANCE! “When I look at you I can only remember what happened because of the lack of trust you had in me. Eun died because of you. I will remember how I had to kill him. In order to save you, I became the king’s dog and my feelings for you remained unchanged. Now they have changed.” - WS (EP16) “Even if the person I want to avoid most is you, Your Highness? When I meet you, I recall everything I want to forget.” - HS (EP12) They are so married that THEY EVEN HURT EACH OTHER THE SAME WAY, WITH THE MOST BRUTAL LIES! This is a throwback to the time HS tried to push So away after he came back to her from Later Jin. So has always quoted her and NOW HE QUOTES EVEN HER HURTFUL WORDS! THAT’S WHY HE LITERALLY PHYSICALLY COLLAPSES IN THE ASTRONOMICAL TOWER (even their reactions are SO SIMILAR, MY DOOMED BABIES!) - in that moment HE TAKES OFF THE MASK HE PUT ON IN FRONT OF SOO, SO HE COULD SAVE HER FROM EVERYONE, INCLUDING HIMSELF. IT’S LIKE A MORTAL BLOW TO HIM- it took him all his willpower to hurt her and now HE COMPLETELY BREAKS DOWN BECAUSE HE THINKS HE TRULY LOST HER FOREVER. I love what you wrote here and I agree completely, I was actually waiting for this scene since I figured WS has to ask HS if she trusted him enough or not, but to add his own struggle to stay away from her to protect her made even more heartbreaking for both of them, and I love heartbreaking scenes, what can I do, I just love to cry watching my dramas . P.S: I LOVE LOVE LOVE the description you gave them " My DOOMED BABIES " it fits perfectly 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAmSoulReader Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 (edited) Spoiler Who else wants to bet on Jung asking Yo for Hae Soo's hand in marriage just before uri So decides to finally step up and take the throne AND Hae Soo?? It seems pretty obvious now why the 14th prince isn't exactly excited that So is becoming the next king in line... As for me - although I feel for Jung - I must admit I cannot wait to see So eventually taking on the position as the ruler he was always meant to be by destiny. I am bracing myself for terrible heart break though. I somehow can't get rid of the nagging feeling that there won't be a happily ever after in their current time... Edited October 18, 2016 by lupita311 23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabi Bros Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 Can't help it...I watched it with subs. I don't know how to feel...if sad or happy.... I will become insane. Hope the SBS version will delete some unnecessary scenes of the international version and add more. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liddi Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 Ironic that the pivotal episode which sees Spoiler So finally eyeing the throne, would be the one that suffers from broadcasting fiascos, not to mention leaks due to Youku's accidental airing. In which case, I wonder if Youku would then do a repeat broadcast of Ep16 tomorrow, in order to synchronise with Korea. Whether this adversely affects the actual Korean broadcast is anyone's guess, but I am hoping it doesn't with the accidental broadcast being taken down, because it certainly is a riveting, emotional episode and deserves to be watched without being spoiled. As it is, from what I can see, it is a given that the international and SBS versions will diverge yet again. 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
makdara Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 What is mean by king woman....she become his concubine... 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
makdara Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 We all know HS.will.not marry him...its heart breaking 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabi Bros Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 I just hate this feeling that we can't talk properly as always. I feel like the king is watching me...so I have to be cautious. 22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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