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[Current Mainland Chinese Drama 2018] The Story of Ming Lan 庶女明兰传 / 知否?知否?应是绿肥红瘦

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Episode 36 was so fun and flaunted the nimble and agile minds of both Ting Ye and Ming Lan. 

 

GTY looked swank and hot in the brick red robe he wore to the Gu Manor to confront his so called family. He shamed and mocked their absurd hypocrisy without raising his voice and made them realize what fools they are. He made them give the spear to him without him using force to emphasize he is the owner and the step family have no rights to it. I laughed when the brother was going to give the spear back and the step mom took it from him to give back to Ting Ye as if that would earn her points. Ting Ye instead very sweetly told her that with her acting she can sign up to sing in the operas. Then he tells mommy dearest that he will accept her invitation for the feast and go prepare it and her response was a dumbfounded "huh". :lol:

 

He also asked CB in a round about way about his family and unmarried sisters and CB does not even know that he is being pumped for information. CB told him about Dr He whom grandmother is heavily favoring for ML. Now he knows his competition. 

 

When Minglan found out about Dr He's cousin and the gag she is trying to pull, she was not impressed or one bit fooled. She has seen these antics before with Manniang and Linniang and when Dr. He took pity on that cousin to make her a concubine or a maid, Minglan put a stop to the drama by telling Dr. He what her expectations are of a husband to be. She saw her father in Dr. He and his treatment of her legal mother, Big Madam.  Maybe later when TY proposes she, will remember that TY has been there and back as he once admitted to her that he was fooled by Manniang. He has learned his lesson and therefore will not be fooled again by a simpering devious woman to bring to his house. Hopefully, TY will fall deeply in love with ML and not bring any other woman to his home. 

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4 hours ago, linhlinh111 said:

 

Second time was when GTY was away on the battlefield, ML was pregnant. Stepmom didn't want GTY to have an heir, so she push ML to receive a concubine, trying to shock her into premature birth. But that doesn't seem to fit the scene either. Maybe drama would make a change here and go through with the plot you predicted. It's more common in this type of drama.

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From the novel spoilers I read, I thought the time when GTY was away in battle while ML was pregnant, the Stepmom brought Maniang to do the concubine griping thing which lead to ML going into labor, in hopes that both mother and child died, but both survived labor process (ML’s servants stopped Maniang from going too far), so Stepmom had her servant set the Fu on fire. GTY got there after the fire was started in time. From trailers, looks like they’re keeping this part in the drama.

 

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45 minutes ago, Maria Brimstone said:

Despite all the excitement with GTY's engagement, I was sooo happy to see MoLan at the polo match!!! I wanted to see the fruits of ML's labour! Too bad she can't look too miserable in public :D

 

BTW, did GTY become HL's children's god parent or something? Did he help give her some standing in her family?

 

I dont think so but on the book HL should get some help later on from ML i think.

 

 

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When Minglan found out about Dr He's cousin and the gag she is trying to pull, she was not impressed or one bit fooled. She has seen these antics before with Manniang and Linniang and when Dr. He took pity on that cousin to make her a concubine or a maid, Minglan put a stop to the drama by telling Dr. He what her expectations are of a husband to be. She saw her father in Dr. He and his treatment of her legal mother, Big Madam.  Maybe later when TY proposes she, will remember that TY has been there and back as he once admitted to her that he was fooled by Manniang. He has learned his lesson and therefore will not be fooled again by a simpering devious woman to bring to his house. Hopefully, TY will fall deeply in love with ML and not bring any other woman to his home. 

 

I do feel a bit for Dr He .. he is so damn sweet and charming and i do think he really like's ML its just hes to soft. 

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18 minutes ago, hello210 said:
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From the novel spoilers I read, I thought the time when GTY was away in battle while ML was pregnant, the Stepmom brought Maniang to do the concubine griping thing which lead to ML going into labor, in hopes that both mother and child died, but both survived labor process (ML’s servants stopped Maniang from going too far), so Stepmom had her servant set the Fu on fire. GTY got there after the fire was started in time. From trailers, looks like they’re keeping this part in the drama.

 

 

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I wonder if thats when we see GTY in that normal solider outfit or maybe him rushing into the capital after hearing about the fire leads to him being demoted as a normal solider and that jail/ML ringing the bell scene's. 

 

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Just watched ep 40 raw and I couldn’t help but laugh when GTY took a drink of alcohol straight from the pot before he continued onto the confession. Like he was thinking, uh I know little Six, I’m gonna need a swig of this before I continue down this path. :lol:

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4 minutes ago, hello210 said:

Just watched ep 40 raw and I couldn’t help but laugh when GTY took a drink of alcohol straight from the pot before he continued onto the confession. Like he was thinking, uh I know little Six, I’m gonna need a swig of this before I continue down this path. :lol:

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In that scene he confessed that he wanted to marry ml since he saved her from drowning. :D

 

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On 1/16/2019 at 10:58 PM, ForgottenSoulx said:

 

Lin was a villain and i dislike her 100% and she deserved to suffer more before dying she killed ML mother and baby during child birth. That must have been one of the most painful and horrifying ways to die. 

 

Imagine thinking your about to die and your unborn child die and you will leave other child all alone in the world.. ah just to much . 

 

I mean were saying this because we know who GTY is because we get his POV but think from QH's POV of GTY's history in brothel's, dad rumours,outside wife etc.. I can totally understand why QH is saying what hes saying. Also QH has not tried to kill anyone if he goes that route then yeah all pity is lost.

 

 

In the Novel doesnt she say that the cousin could be a concubine?

 

Offtopic comment but i would to see this grandma playing a empress dowager. 

 

 

 

 

No I didn't mean he killed someone. That was just a figurative. What I meant was that no matter how pitiful his story has been, he should have learnt to let go of some things because even though he has a new resolution now, his own wishes is still priority in his heart. He has never thought of Ming lan's retrospect at all. Even without GTY, QH still can't be with ming lan. And that's the fact. So what I was saying was that no matter one's story, when one starts to act unreasonably, his story shouldn't be the excuse. Because when one is in a hind, that's when we one's true attitude. So QH is not acting weird because of what he has faced, he has just always been weird

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20 minutes ago, leeza77 said:
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In that scene he confessed that he wanted to marry ml since he saved her from drowning. :D

 

Omg my feels .. 

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No I didn't mean he killed someone. That was just a figurative. What I meant was that no matter how pitiful his story has been, he should have learnt to let go of some things because even though he has a new resolution now, his own wishes is still priority in his heart. He has never thought of Ming lan's retrospect at all. Even without GTY, QH still can't be with ming lan. And that's the fact. So what I was saying was that no matter one's story, when one starts to act unreasonably, his story shouldn't be the excuse. Because when one is in a hind, that's when we one's true attitude. So QH is not acting weird because of what he has faced, he has just always been weird

 

Yeah i totally agree QH only really think's about him self hes never once thought of ML's position or what shes said. 

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It is seems like CB purposely told the parent that GTY want to marry RL instead of ML cos on ep 40 CB told GTY that ML look like soft but when she want something no one can change her mind.

 

Lol... GTY told CB to wait for 2 days to soft ML heart from anger... clap clap...

 

All it is part of scene of getting him marry successfully 

 

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10 minutes ago, dashmount20 said:

It is seems like CB purposely told the parent that GTY want to marry RL instead of ML cos on ep 40 CB told GTY that ML look like soft but when she want something no one can change her mind.

 

Lol... GTY told CB to wait for 2 days to soft ML heart from anger... clap clap...

 

All it is part of scene of getting him marry successfully 

 

Ha ha.. Gty knows her better. Read her like a book. 

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5 hours ago, darkphoenix123 said:

Did you 6th Liang with the others at the house entrance? Cheng Bai looks like he doesn’t know what to think about GTY’s elation lol

 

The true example of best friend, CB & GTY have the best bromance in this drama and the way GTY trick CB is soo funny... GTY & CB expressions in this drama is always priceless..

 

3 hours ago, hello210 said:

We’ll see how they play that part out later. For some reason, i think instead of being jealous of QH, GTY may feel insecure about ML’s feelings. Being married to someone who may be in love with someone else, even if you know they are not the type to do anything wrong, is very hard. There was another drama (main characters married to other people fell in love but never physically cheated) I saw where the viewers said that cheating emotionally is worse than physically doing it (Not implying that ML is going to do that, just an example).

 

I think GTY feels insecure as he feels that he "loves" ML more and he invested all his mind and energy to make ML his wife.. Perhaps in his mind IF he was a bit late in sending marriage proposal, ML might agree marrying QH although QH broke his promise to ML before.. From the preview, I think it's quite obvious that GTY had fallen deeper in love with ML.. Well, I hope that fight will make GTY & ML closer.. hihihi

 

15 minutes ago, dashmount20 said:

It is seems like CB purposely told the parent that GTY want to marry RL instead of ML cos on ep 40 CB told GTY that ML look like soft but when she want something no one can change her mind.

 

 

This is definitely one of my favorite scenes in this drama.. AHAHAHAHA.. SH & Big Madam reaction are sooo comical that I keep repeating the scenes for several times when I watched that ep.. HAHAHAHAH... I'm glad the drama version has much more comical sides compared to Novel.. 

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I think the best thing about this drama is GTY's manipulative laughter... It's so contacting. Hahahahhaha... Really Feng shao feng plays this like no other.. Wow I love those laughter. For GTy6, he will never help Ming lan openly against those women in his house and that's why he told her she will have her stand among noble women. He will never infringe on her judgment. He will just cut them off backstage. And I so love that hahahaha. But his laughter speaks volumes. 

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6 minutes ago, lyaarisa said:

 

The true example of best friend, CB & GTY have the best bromance in this drama and the way GTY trick CB is soo funny... GTY & CB expressions in this drama is always priceless..

 

 

I think GTY feels insecure as he feels that he "loves" ML more and he invested all his mind and energy to make ML his wife.. Perhaps in his mind IF he was a bit late in sending marriage proposal, ML might agree marrying QH although QH broke his promise to ML before.. From the preview, I think it's quite obvious that GTY had fallen deeper in love with ML.. Well, I hope that fight will make GTY & ML closer.. hihihi

 

 

This is definitely one of my favorite scenes in this drama.. AHAHAHAHA.. SH & Big Madam reaction are sooo comical that I keep repeating the scenes for several times when I watched that ep.. HAHAHAHAH... I'm glad the drama version has much more comical sides compared to Novel.. 

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In the novel the reason gty angry at ml was not bcoz of jealousy, but becoz ml show less emotion to him than to qh. She was a perfect wife with an excellent composure to him whilst she showed her anger to qh. Ml later on (after the incident of grandma been poisoned) admitted that she afraid to show her emotion to gty bcoz of lack of trust. Like she has to behave or that all the good things she has with gty will change. 

 

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19 minutes ago, m0us3y said:

Thanks! But couldn't understand most of the conversations....:tears:

But they look so sweet together! 

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I think the earlier one of the clip he told ml if you are tired, u don't have to go and see the stepmom. Ml was yawning at that time.. Ha ha. Uncle you have kept ml awake all the night, have you? 

 

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17 hours ago, m0us3y said:

 

@Golden Flower I guess part of it was also implied (from my perspective) and deduced. 

But i did say he SAID and not he THINKS. 

For I do think he felt GTY wasn't good enough for ML. 

Few episodes ago, when he was at the temple he prayed for ML to find a good man, get married and find happiness. 

But when he found out GTY is marrying ML, he was upset, angry almost. He perceived GTY as not a good man, and could not give ML happiness? If so, on what basis? 

@tomo74 @gleek49 @m0us3y @hello210 @leeza77

After watching TV epi 40 and complete conversation of GTY and QH, QH did not tell GTY to give up ML because he thinks that GTY doesn’t deserve ML due to his past behavior. Yes, QH sort of implied that to Xiaotao when he said that he wants ML to have good marriage partner during his visit to ML’s house to meet grandma after conversation with GTY. QH didn’t realize that GTY has feelings for ML and planned to marry her till the end of conversation when GTY admitted it. In the beginning, he was trying to ask GTY to back off as he thought that GTY is just marrying ML because he was late in asking for Roulan and just to get married. Of course, he also thought that GTY wouldn’t aim for ML knowing their love history. QH also did not realize ML’s marriage prospect with Dr. He was also because he hid himself at home focusing on his study. 

GTY also lied to QH (1) not knowing QH’s plan to propose marriage to ML again (2) ML and grandma already agreed to his marriage proposal. Of course, He didn’t tell QH about his grand scheme involving RL and imperial couples. After meeting with ML at HL’s house, he asked Shitou whether the exam results came out today and that they should prepare to meet another person, indicating he already knew QH is going to come look for him. (I’m NOT saying GTY is evil for lying to QH as they’re love rival after all.) I’m just saying that he also calculated QH and basically prevented QH from having opportunity to propose again to ML though they’re friends. I’m just not fond of GTY’s attitude of blaming QH not accepting his help to fight off YW’s family power and pretending he was sincere in helping him to be with ML that time while he was already planning to marry ML since he rescued her from river bandits, way before QH’s family was threatened by Yong Wang. 

I do not think that QH was wrong in being angry at GTY or asking GTY to give up based on his knowledge of how GTY’s marriage proposal went for ML (being late for RL then went for ML).

I’m not commenting about things between QH and ML or whether QH deserves ML or whether ML should accept QH.

I’m just saying as friends, GTY was never honest or transparent of his feelings and plans to marry ML towards QH. So, it is normal that QH being angry at him and not believing ML would want to marry GTY. The truth is at the end of their conversation, ML still hasn’t agreed to marry GTY but GTY tried to make QH think that she and grandma already agreed to the marriage.

 

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