kdramawriter Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 I'm deep in the middle of my rewatch and Wang So has two flashbacks by their pond: Ep 8 - During Eun's birthday; he realizes that he's in love with Hae Su and he has flashbacks to earlier in their relationship Ep 16 - Wang So has flashbacks after the night back-hug. Ep 18, 19, 20 - WILL THERE BE FLASHBACKS, super sad flashbacks :'( 18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post qwenli Posted October 23, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted October 23, 2016 There is something bothering me and I just have to post about it. As someone posted earlier, it is very expensive to move the entire crew and cast repeatedly for filming. Hence I would think usually they will group the filming by location. After ep 16, when I kept seeing this location, I just think, yes they must have not filmed in chronological order. This is the wide angle dating location of HS and WS, in ep 16, HS was standing there as seasons pass by from Spring to Winter to mark the passing of time. It is quite obvious that the forced kiss of ep 9, the star gazing of ep 14 and breakup and backhug of ep 16 were all done in this location. So they may camp around this location over a few days to complete all these scenes. I think its a great testament of the actors' skill to jump eps and still deliver their roles. And I also have a naggy feeling that they filmed the opening and ending together because there are only two modern scenes in this drama. So the opening and ending could be filmed towards the end the drama filming probably in may/Jun. Specimen pix in spoiler. ep 9 forced kiss ep 14 star gazing ep 16 backhug [spoiler/] 27 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zanierpk Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 I do not understand, why queen really hate wang so? can someone help to explain to me 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owlcat Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 36 minutes ago, Gabi Bros said: Is from LJG's VLIVE channel. Here the link of that video (pre-press conference): http://www.vlive.tv/video/12788/JGV-달의-연인---보보경심-려-with-U Thank You 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itzibitzispider Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 8 minutes ago, zanierpk said: I do not understand, why queen really hate wang so? can someone help to explain to me Don't know ... maybe because his scar reminds her of that night the king decided to marry again and she just had a miscarriage or maybe because JM predicted a Kings-Star for Mo and him, but not for her precious 1. born I really don't know ... but his face does not suit her picture of a perfect king 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoOnLoVeRz Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 vhagariel 23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soorani Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 57 minutes ago, jayakris said: I guess I asked about the first part already (though in response to @lyserose), as I felt that it may be a bit of a stretch to take this line as asking him to give up the throne for her. I didn't take it that way (at all!). And neither did WS, in how he responded. On the 2nd point, wasn't she actually helping WS out of a really tight spot, of having to arrest Jeong and have him face the law for breaking curfew? It worked out best for WS too, and she knew it would. At least, that's how I took it. What was wrong in that? I thought it was brilliant. And I think WS probably did too, as he didn't complain later when she explained it away (though it added to his feeling that she might not be trusting him like he does her, and he openly said that to her later). Again, sorry if I missed any detail that should make me dislike HS on this. @zi4r thank you for your post!!! Since I agree with the points @jayakris made to your 2 first points, I also wanted to add my own opinion about the third point you made: #3 The undeveloped relationship in the two years of Mu's reign I really don't think their relationship was undeveloped in the two years of Mu's reign. After the time skip, we were introduced to both of them being much closer to each other than they were before, they were clearly flirting . Well, I guess the word I could use here is that he was courting her. Of course, HS hasn't yet fully opened her heart to him at that time (she still denying the poor boy kisses), but I though it was a good sigh, she broke up with Wook in such a bad terms being betrayed by someone she loved and trusted and she still had feelings for him the last time they talked, so I guess it was good that she took her time to get close to So and let herself slowly fall for him, so it wouldn't feel like she was just jumping from one to another without second thoughts. 20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post briseis Posted October 23, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted October 23, 2016 The Proof of Love and Mortality In all those years, So’s been away HS never stopped believing that he still loved her - it was that hope that allowed her to wait for him, without any promises from him and after his rejection. The moment she sees him bleeding for her, it’s the final confirmation she needed that her Wolf Prince still cares for her, that he is far from indifferent, that he would still risk his life, THAT HE HASN’T CHANGED. The arrows represents so much (the arrow WHICH SHE’S KEPT AS A TOKEN OF HIS LOVE!) - not only is it an evidence of his love, but with his blood on it it’s also A TANGIBLE PROOF OF SO’S MORTALITY AND VULNERABILITY; and it makes HS finally wake up and realize how uncertain the future is and how precious each moment in the presence is - and in that moment she finally decides to live fully, without fear or regret. Until now, she always had on the back of her mind that he is Gwangjong and that he will live a long time, but now the realization how close she were to losing him makes her finally see that she wouldn’t be able to live in a world without him. This is a man for who she’s willing to risk everything. HS’s realization of his mortality is underscored even more when she sees So’s scarred body and it’s such a powerful parallel to their time in the royal baths (even the OST song is the same), but at that time she barely registered those scars; however, now she notices every single one. And HER HEART BREAKS MILLION TIMES FOR HIM as she realizes what a terrible life he’s lead, how much pain and torture, both emotional and physical, he had to endure. And she can’t stop herself from tracing the scars on his body with her fingertips, just like she traced the one on his face, but this time she isn’t fascinated and curious, this time SHE WANTS TO HEAL HIM, TO GIVE HIM ALL THE GENTLENESS HE DESERVED BUT NEVER RECEIVED. She lovingly caress each scar, as if her touch could somehow take away his pain. And the moment, she reaches the three claw-like scars on So’s arm, Soo remembers the time he told her about how he had set trees on fire when the wolves had been drawing near,… and her heart breaks once more. The most heartbreaking part is that when So wakes up, he doesn’t find it at all odd that Soo is there, he doesn’t find it odd that he is hallucinating about her BECAUSE HE’S BEEN SEEING HER IN HIS DREAMS EVER SINCE HE LEFT HER ALL THOSE YEARS AGO. 64 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sadpluto Posted October 23, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted October 23, 2016 So, I was up last night till 3:00 am re-watching all the episodes as you do waiting for Monday and I noticed something. It is sort of my prediction but it could also be a spoiler so BEWARE! Spoiler In episode 6 after Soo cuts her wrist and her 1st set of premonitions about the succession of the throne are shown. I noticed that in the 3rd death, which is Yo, he is clutching a piece of paper in his hands when he died. I think it was his last decree making 14th prince aka Jung the next king. If you remember his mother was trying to make him sign this in ep 16 and he refused but, feeling death approaching he might have signed it. We know that Soo will be present when he dies because she is always there to witness her premonitions. What if after confirming with Wang So that he really wants to be king, Soo changes the king's last decree and makes 4th instead of 14th the king? (She probably would have done it whether Wang So wanted to be king or not because she shouldn't change history.) I remember reading that in the original c-version the 4th changed it himself but what if it is Soo who does it in our k-version. This would explain why Queen Yoo was blaming Soo for stealing the throne from her son. This could also be the reason for her guilt later on because she knows So doesn't kill without reason. Those deaths shouldn't really bother her unless she herself put Wang So in the position of king where he is forced to kill all these people. I want November to be here already so I can have my life back. Can't believe I'm spending saturday night watching dramas instead of going out LOL. P.S. Can someone please teach me how to insert screenshots from my computer on here? Please and thank you 26 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SizzlerZ Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 6 hours ago, butterflysaga said: I do really HOPE they won't make it like Splish-Splash Love ending.. It was too short for urri SoSoo couple reunion. They spent time together like.. decades rite? Please drama God, give us your JUSTICE! *prying* That's what I'm scared about too! It's kind of unofficially accepted among us that HS will meet WS in the future but I'm scared it's just going to be them seeing each other or bumping into each other and FINISHED. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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qwenli Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 @sadpluto First save the pix and then upload them on any picture hosting site e.g postit.org then copy the url for forum and then click the bottom right button of the post "insert other url^ Please post a max of 3pix at a time otherwise it slows down the loading of the page for everyone. For more pix insertion, use the spoiler function "eye button" on top right of the post. Hope this helps. ----- Wow first thing sbs staff does when he gets to work at 8am kst is to post gwangjong pix on Facebook 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soph_t Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 It's officially Moonday in the UK, bring on tonights episode, wishing for lots of scene's between our otp and I'm so excited to see WS take the throne. 19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jerboa83 Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 9 hours ago, penelop3 said: Come to think of it, the thread gets quiet because we are in the final stage of Grief: ACCEPTANCE. We have said what we have to say about almost anything. We know what lies ahead, we brace ourselves for the heartbreak and start to think of something that can 'cure' us and help us move on. I know I need to. You're right, I guess... 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MezzJowdie Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 Its monday, woke up early and checked this thread. Good morning Eclipses! Its MLSHR day 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerboa83 Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 44 minutes ago, briseis said: The Proof of Love and Mortality In all those years, So’s been away HS never stopped believing that he still loved her - it was that hope that allowed her to wait for him, without any promises from him and after his rejection. The moment she sees him bleeding for her, it’s the final confirmation she needed that her Wolf Prince still cares for her, that he is far from indifferent, that he would still risk his life, THAT HE HASN’T CHANGED. The arrows represents so much (the arrow WHICH SHE’S KEPT AS A TOKEN OF HIS LOVE!) - not only is it an evidence of his love, but with his blood on it it’s also A TANGIBLE PROOF OF SO’S MORTALITY AND VULNERABILITY; and it makes HS finally wake up and realize how uncertain the future is and how precious each moment in the presence is - and in that moment she finally decides to live fully, without fear or regret. Until now, she always had on the back of her mind that he is Gwangjong and that he will live a long time, but now the realization how close she were to losing him makes her finally see that she wouldn’t be able to live in a world without him. This is a man for who she’s willing to risk everything. HS’s realization of his mortality is underscored even more when she sees So’s scarred body and it’s such a powerful parallel to their time in the royal baths (even the OST song is the same), but at that time she barely registered those scars; however, now she notices every single one. And HER HEART BREAKS MILLION TIMES FOR HIM as she realizes what a terrible life he’s lead, how much pain and torture, both emotional and physical, he had to endure. And she can’t stop herself from tracing the scars on his body with her fingertips, just like she traced the one on his face, but this time she isn’t fascinated and curious, this time SHE WANTS TO HEAL HIM, TO GIVE HIM ALL THE GENTLENESS HE DESERVED BUT NEVER RECEIVED. She lovingly caress each scar, as if her touch could somehow take away his pain. And the moment, she reaches the three claw-like scars on So’s arm, Soo remembers the time he told her about how he had set trees on fire when the wolves had been drawing near,… and her heart breaks once more. The most heartbreaking part is that when So wakes up, he doesn’t find it at all odd that Soo is there, he doesn’t find it odd that he is hallucinating about her BECAUSE HE’S BEEN SEEING HER IN HIS DREAMS EVER SINCE HE LEFT HER ALL THOSE YEARS AGO. I always hold my breath when I read @briseis's posts... 17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deabakdrama Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 @zi4r Good morning, I enjoy varied and abundant breakfast from all of you. Nowadays, all your posts become my meal, the most important meal of day. Milks, cereals, mee etc gives me energy to move on.... I understand which angle you are comingb from, as like what I said in my previous post, you having putting all my thoughts in writing. HS's ignorance makes me frustrated in certain part in episode 14-16. But I wouldn't give up, let's see how the writer nim redeem HS's character in final four episodes. I hope HS's can be more defined especially her loves toward WS throughout the final four episode. Not squander her time being with WS. I m keeping my finger crossed for that. For at least, she must help to solve and reconcile the problem between Queen Yoo and WS and she must trust the one she loved, like what SD advised her before. 18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 40somethingahjumma Posted October 23, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted October 23, 2016 13 hours ago, zi4r said: So you see why I'm inconsolable right now? I told myself to treasure every moment the OTP shares..... only to watch HS squander all the opportunities and precious time she has with WS. This is like a slap to my face, and now I am totally unprepared for the darker times for OTP that the show is heading to in the final 4 episodes....... HOW CAN I? To call them "darker times" is a misnomer, because we haven't really got the non-dark times for the OTP relationship!!! Anyway, let's deconstruct the three irksome episodes, shall we? ... and why it has all become indefensible! Ep14: Taejo, who was insistent on keeping the OTP apart, is dead. Mu is King; this is a kind fate to the OTP. Both of them can now breathe and live, rather than just existing. So what did HS decide to do? Keep WS on a long leash for two whole years. WTH??? She is a modern woman. And she feels a courtship of two years is necessary? Or does she take some perverse pleasure in seeing a great man fall for her and grovel for her affection? (I know, some so-called strong women like to do that, and boast about how they can control their men. That's not love; that's ownership. And such women give feminism a bad name.) I try very hard to ignore my irritation, but a small part of my brain keeps whispering to me: She's no different from Taejo (and later Yo)... Keeping WS on a leash and taming him for her own amusement. The situation is made worse by the fact that she comes from the future. You know, if I am sent back to Goryeo and fall in love with a man there, I will try my very best to spend every precious moment with him, because I MIGHT BE SENT BACK TO THE FUTURE THE NEXT DAY!!! She should be feeling the sense that time is running out... but apparently not for our dear HS. But well, this is just a minor irritation for me, so I try to move on... but things get worse. She hears about his impending marriage with the kid...... and she has the gall to be upset. Really, woman? (This is like "Single Ladies" song backward... URGH!!!) You lead a man on, but feel he should just wait around like a puppy? 1) Even if he has left her for someone else, I am not sure whether I would blame him by that point. 2) More importantly, here comes the question of trust. It's as if she never really trusts him to stay true to her! The man that has proven to willingly place his life and his status on the line for her... and the first thing she does is to question his commitment to her??? (Remember the accusation she made to WW about his lack of trust in her love? Well lady, pot calling kettle black, ain't it?) To me, both of those lines are so off; the tone is all wrong! The first line doesn't sound like a statement of understanding; it's passive-aggressive & accusatory. And the second one doesn't sound like her asking for an explanation either; it's equally accusatory. But well, I thought I was being a modern woman and reading too much into it, so I decided not to overthink the scene... so I moved on.... until... Here comes another scene that makes me want to throw my remote at the TV: There are two explanations for the scene, and neither is flattering to HS. One, she is just being plain idiotic. Even after witnessing WS's poisoning, Lady Oh's scape-goating & Yo's treachery, she doesn't think there is anything significant to the fact that Jung is hiding from WS and the guards??? Jung is Yo's blood brother, youngest son of Cruella Deville..... and she doesn't think there's even a slight possibility that the Queen might be plotting something again? Or is she really unaware of EVERYTHING that's happening around her? Two, (this is the more likely explanation to me, given how the episode develops afterwards) this is her being a modern woman, throwing tantrum to her boyfriend because she is pissed at him. And also, her re-asserting her control over him. She knows that her life is what he treasures the most..... and she used that fact against him. It put me on the verge of tears while watching this, because I hate it when a femme-fatale makes a mighty man fall (and that's exactly what is happening here)! I don't know whether Yo's treachery could have been found out earlier and Mu's life could have been prolonged if Jung were to be discovered in HS's room..... but either way, I hate the fact that such a question has to be considered at all, just because of an act of either stupidity or arrogance of a woman. And not to mention, the episode moves on from this point without much reflection about this scene. HS feels the guilt for putting WS in a difficult position during Yo's reign, but the plot doesn't allow her to even consider at all that she (and Jung) might have been partly responsible for Yo's ascendance to the throne. Ep15: Yo is in power. Eun is in danger. And HS oscillates between being a strong woman (trying to help Eun and SD) and being the frightened indecisive girl of Ep9 (not telling WS). While this is understandable because she is being put in a very difficult position again, she's being a strong woman for all the wrong reasons (Does she really think that Jung and she together will be capable of getting Eun and SD to safety? Even if she can get them outta the palace, how are they gonna survive afterwards??) and being the frightened girl in the worst way imaginable (Two people she decides to not tell: WS and the General... the only two people that can probably help Eun and SD. Really, where has all the logic gone?). And of course, there's the other glaring issue being highlighted over and over by Wang So himself and all the other fans on this thread, so I'm not gonna elaborate on it anymore: Her lack of trust in WS. But what I am saying is: lacking trust or not, if she makes any real logical thinking at all, she should understand that telling the General at least is a calculated risk that she would have to take to ensure Eun's and SD's safety. Now, I feel as if she just wants them outta her hair..... Get them out of palace; whether they survive later or not, not her problem. All in all, there were so many bad decisions made every step of the way by HS in this episode, it about gives me an aneurysm. Hate me if you will for pinning Eun's and SD's deaths on her. But for me, it doesn't matter whether she is guilty or not. She deserves to feel that guilt, and feel it KEENLY (which in my opinion, she doesn't.... but let me talk about it in Ep16). Ep16: Another OTP separation. Then short moments of respite, and then the throne calls for its rightful King. And throughout that, HS pines over WS and wallows in self-pity. Lemme go back to what I was talking about..... HS's sense of guilt. The torment she seems to be going through in Ep16 is only centered on WS leaving her and his accusation that she doesn't trust him. She doesn't seem to have a thought to spare for Eun's death after the few moments of grief at the death scene itself. When she was talking to WS, it is all about defending herself from his (admittedly unfairly harsh) accusations... just reiterating about how much she trusts him... even though Eun is already dead and her trust didn't do jacksh**. As I have said, it doesn't matter whether she is truly responsible for the deaths! She should feel responsible! Remember how much I hated when WW is being all victim and never taking responsibility? Why do I feel as if HS is turning into that?? Then comes the last scene which makes me so so mad. Oh, the gall!!! You didn't just say that, woman! She knows how much responsibility this man is shouldering. Yet, she decides to burden him with one more accusation... basically calling him an oathbreaker. There was a time he would have run away with her. She refused. I don't blame her for that; after all the hardships she had gone through, her spirit was barely existing back then; she was scared and rightly so. That was her decision and I respect her for it, just as WS had to do so. She knows how much has changed since then. She knows how much he has lost and what he has suffered since then. She knows that the war over the throne isn't something they can just run away from. His existence in itself would still be a threat to whoever that takes the throne; he would be hunted down/framed for treason even if he decides to live in exile. Yet she asks him this impossible question. And my patience for HS has run absolutely dry. So what is this? What has become of sweet sweet HS? I understand that time has hardened her. But it seems time either hasn't wisened her at all, or it has made her an absolute a***ole when it comes to WS. I don't know how they will salvage her character in my eyes. I am not abandoning the show, nor am I abandoning my support for OTP. I need them to have more happy moments and hopefully a happy ending. But that's not because I feel HS is deserving of WS. That's only because being with her is the only way WS can find happiness. So, I hope writer-nim will give him all the happiness he deserves... ... and once WS doesn't want her anymore, (If that ever happens in the story... because it might!! The throne seems to make everyone go crazy for some reason) writer-nim can flush her down the toilet for all I care. Her character is dead to me. ***Rant ended. Going off to sob in a corner*** I apologize for the cutting the top half of the post but I have reproduced the part that I will be addressing in my post. While I appreciate your perspective and note that you've done a good job articulating it, I think you're a little too hard on Su. There have been many criticisms laid at Su's door... some of it quite valid. But while you and I have access to the big picture of what's going, she doesn't have that kind of omniscient perspective. While we demand that Su demonstrate trust in So, it is equally important that we demand the same thing of So. Yes it is obvious to everyone and blind Freddy that he loves her BUT he doesn't always tell her everything about what he is doing or why he's doing it. That could cause a woman to be a little confused and even insecure. And no woman can live on miniscule information and just be expected to trust that her man is doing the right thing by her without any proper explanation of what he is thinking or feeling. You and I know that when a relationship breaks down, it's seldom just the fault of one party. When there's a lack of communication, misunderstanding ensues which is exactly how the show portrayed it. I love So to death and I think he's a wonderful K drama character. One of the best in fact. But I personally thought he handled the marriage to the princess situation very badly. I don't doubt it's an unpopular opinion. I understand why he did what he did because he was embarrassed about breaking trust but he shut her down before she could ask him for some kind of explanation which is where he fell short. However, as he himself said, he did make promises to So which he couldn't keep and she didn't know why except having to contend with rumours that he had put the throne ahead of her. Su knew exactly what So was going to do when they agreed to meet at the prayer pagoda. She was all dressed up for it even wearing that hairpin he gave her which had come to signify love between them. She was all giddy and excited. Her disappointment was palpable when first he took his time coming and then he pretended that he had forgotten what he was going to say. When he arrived he knew that she knew what he had intended when he asked her out but he put a kibosh in it because the issue of protecting the King and the princess through marriage had come between them. At least that's what he thought. As I said in a previous post, So didn't even give Su the chance to respond to this new complication. He made the choice for her which I thought was quite wrong. The choice to marry the princess was his but the choice to remain with him in spite of it was Su's. Su also knew that So was lying when he said he had forgotten what he was about to confess but she thought he had suddenly gotten cold feet and told him to take his time. In that sequence of double-talk between them she was also trying to tell him that he didn't have hold back any longer and she was ready to move to the next level with him. But he didn't think he deserved to move to the next level with her because of the marriage of expediency but his pride didn't allow him to make excuses. Maybe he thought too that he was protecting her in some fashion but that's the problem. People in adult relationships talk things through not cocoon each other from harsh realities or think that they can do so with no long-term consequences. Notice too that when Su finally got her explanation she voluntarily admitted that she had given Jeong refuge at her place. When that drainpipe got unclogged, their ability to communicate honestly and freely returned. Perhaps it was foolish of Su to hide Jeong in her room. However, communication between them had reached an all time low and I put the fault squarely on So's shoulders. He had refused to deal with the elephant in the room and she couldn't read his motives. And rumours were flying around that he had his eye on the throne. I personally think she has some right to be more than a little bit suspicious Let's not kid ourselves. So lied to Su. By commission and by omission. If we're going to blame Su for anything it's for not pressing the point further before they reached such a low point. BUT it's obvious from how upset and hurt she was that she did trust him and was definitely in love with him. The other thing is that while So's love for Su is great and that it's much easier to sympathize with his perspective as a result, he is also someone less encumbered with fears of the future. He is someone, who as a result of circumstances, doesn't worry about fate or destiny and he bulldozes his way through life. It's admirable on some level but that brusque and open nature has also has put him and Su in some jeopardy because EVERYBODY in the palace (except for Jeong apparently) knows that they are a thing. It's a double-edged sword. It gets used against him as leverage to make life hard for the two of them. Eventually he realises it and becomes more circumspect. He breaks it off with her under the cover that it's about the lack of trust between them when it was really about him taking a stand regarding the throne. And protecting her. Yes, he lied to her again. We might justify it as a "white lie" but it is still a lie. Of course it kills him to do it but she doesn't know that. In fact, the admirable thing is that she maintains her faith in him despite that. A part of her knows he's lying but she doesn't know why but for two years she waits for him and some kind of explanation that's still forthcoming. Contrary to what people think, she has learnt something from the quickie wedding to the princess. She knows that So broke off with her for a reason other than the one he gave and although she doesn't know what it is yet, she is willing to wait for his explanation. The issue with not telling So about Eun's whereabouts. I never thought it was about a lack of trust on her part. Su confirmed it in Ep. 16 that it wasn't. The big overriding fear wasn't so much that she didn't trust him and he would end up killing his brother but the fact that he would kill his brother and the pain he would have to suffer for it. He was utterly crushed when he thought he had killed Yo, a brother he didn't even like but a full brother nonetheless. On the stargazing birthday night he confessed he was jealous of Jeong's favoured position with his mother to the point where he wondered if it was in his nature to hate and kill his brothers. Su, of course comforted him by saying that sibling rivalry is a very normal part of life. She didn't condemn or look at him as if he was a freak. This confirmed to So that she was the woman for him and he was ready to say what's on his heart. Except of course he doesn't which leaves her high and dry. Feel free to disagree but I think a lot of people have misread Su's words to So at the end. I hear a lot of accusations of not trusting him and demanding that he give up the throne. That's not what I heard and saw. People insist that Su trust So because he has already proven his great love for her repeatedly. But trust needs to be based on something or some kind of information. For two years Su didn't hear hide nor hair from So, she didn't know what he was doing or planning. She didn't even know why he really left. So suddenly returns to her, they make love, play house and the next thing she knows he wants to become King. What is she supposed to think? Especially when he doesn't deny that part of the reason why he left her in the first place was to take the throne. Trust is good but blind trust is deadly. No one knows that better than Su especially after her experience with Uk whom she trusted blindly and it almost led to her destruction. Frankly what I see is a woman who is learning. She's heard it all before. A man telling her that he's taking the throne in part to protect her. Well, yeah, that sounds really familiar. Uk told her that and look at what that's done to his soul. Her scepticism is warranted IMO. I'm not surprised if she isn't rushing enthusiastically to embrace that idea after witnessing what that purpose has done to Uk and changed him into a brother murderer. Personally I like what she does. She questions him and they talk like adults. She wants to know why he's changed his mind. Once upon a time he told everyone who'd care to listen that she was his priority but now he's changed his tune. I think she has every right to know especially if he's asking her to remain by his side as he goes for the throne. To his credit he understands her scepticism and offers an explanation. The question she poses to him is similar to the one she asks Uk but framed slightly differently. Personally I think it's an important one. Because the answer will tell her if she can follow him. If we're asking her to think more than I think we should respect the fact that she is trying to think more. Su loves So and she's proven it by becoming intimate with him. But she also cares about his soul too because she knows the kind of weight he's had to shoulder for killing for much of his young life. I would also like to add that there's always been a kind of foolhardy streak to Su. She's always been foolishly brave. The way she mouthed off at So for throwing her off his saddle like a bag, taking on Eun and giving him a black eye and rushing headlong to rescue Jeong from bandits with absolutely no plan of attack whatsoever. It is her most attractive trait... it is what the men love about her most but on the other hand, it does get her into all kinds of scrapes. But as the Latin proverb says, fortune favours the brave... and that applies equally to both Su and So. In some ways they both take more chances than they should but... guess what, it always seems to work out for them in the end. There's a lot more I could say but I'm going to leave it here because I have a ton of things to do. 61 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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