[Official] SPARTACE COUPLE KimJongkook-SongJiHyo

[caliunnie]

just noticed, after jk asked if haha is writing a novel, Haha teased him about HJY and not even one comment after he gets a hit with the paper in Jk's hand. So one comment about HJY gets him a punishment but continuous aggressive teasing about JH makes JK a blushing mess!

 

@mn0096 you are right! It makes sense Gap Jin would know about him dating from early in their relationship, Papa smurf probably suspects but I doubt Jk has confirm it to him.

[mn0096]

Alright, this is a bit out of place, and just for fun. Here are the lyrics to So Pretty that KJK recorded at SJH’s agency. The album was released end of 2012. IIRC, KJK wrote this song himself. SA went to MAMA in November 2013. Based just on the lyrics, someone stole KJK’s heart at least one year before MAMA.  

 

SO PRETTY

 

While just looking at you drunk
I only sneak a look at you secretly because I can’t take my eyes off.
Days passed and you still come into my mind again and again.
One day passed too as I was considering to find an excuse.

 

You were so pretty and your eyes were very beautiful then.
You stole my heart the moment that I met you.
You are so gorgeous. You’re lovely when smiling.
You stole my heart the moment that I met you.

 

I tried to get you out of my mind but I couldn’t.
I cannot stand it anymore. I don’t have the guts to meet you.
One day is passing while thinking of this.

 

You were so pretty and your eyes were very beautiful then.
I took to you the moment that I met you.
You are so gorgeous. You’re lovely when smiling.
I took to you the moment that I met you.

 

Uh Uh you stole my heart.
Uh Uh you stole my heart.

You’re getting nearer to me.
My quivering lips can’t move.
And one day is passing away…

 

You were so pretty and your eyes were very beautiful then.
You stole my heart the moment that I met you.
You are so gorgeous. You’re lovely when smiling.
You stole my heart the moment that I met you.

 

You were so pretty and your eyes were very beautiful then.
You stole my heart the moment that I met you.
You are so gorgeous. You’re lovely when smiling.
You stole my heart the moment that I met you.

 

Uh Uh you stole my heart.
Uh Uh you stole my heart.

[linzer03]

Okay.

 

Firstly, I think HH needs to make an account on here, and he can join us in coming up with delu theories.

 

Secondly, I love KJK's "With who?" when HH first brought up the rumors. Like, KJK, you know damn well who the rumors are with. You talked about it on RM. 

 

Thirdly, I cannot believe KJK did not freak out at HH's implication that SJH knocked on KJK's hotel room door and that's how they got together. This is KJK who is very respectful of women (Mr. Manner Hands). Both HH and KJK are close to SJH, and I think they'd have a hard time joking about SJH and KJK like that if SJH and KJK weren't dating. 

 

Fourthly, 2013 theory FTW! I don't believe HH is telling 100% the truth (that they started dating at the 2013 MAMA), but I do think there are shades of truth to his romance novel. KJK looks far too panicked at points for there not to be some truth there. I do think spartace were dating by the 2013 MAMA. And maybe there was an incident with SJH drinking a glass of wine (KJK says "no" to that way too quickly; if the story was made up he shouldn't even know what HH was going to say about SJH drinking wine yet) and going to KJK's room when they were staying in a hotel. It's possible HH is combining different stories. For instance, the wine thing happened at a different point in time (e.g. Macau) and HH is simply pretending the story happened during the MAMA so he can tell it and watch KJK frozen in panic.

 

 

So this is interesting. HH brings up that KJK dated for 7 years. On MUD, KJK revealed that he dated someone for 7 years and someone for 6 years. My guess was that SJH was the 6 year relationship (2013 + 2014 + 2015 + 2016 + 2017+ 2018 = 6 years, and it's possible if you include Korean style of counting that SJH is the 7 year relationship). So HH is talking about one of KJK's two long relationships. I could really go either way in my opinion since KJK brought up HH's 5 year relationship (which was before Byul) so it seems only fair that HH was talking about KJK's prior relationship. But also, HH was talking about SJH a lot in the episode, so it's reasonable that HH was still talking about the years KJK has dated SJH. Honestly, it's possible that HH started talking about the previous 7 year relationship and then switched to SJH partway through. Who knows.

 

Anyway, the part that I really found interesting, KJK says "Who do you treat me like you? You revealed your relationship." This doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me unless KJK is dating SJH. KJK himself talked about the length of his relationships on MUD, so what they're saying here shouldn't be a big deal. And other than that, HH hasn't really said anything that would expose KJK's other 7 year relationship. No hints about who she was or anything. But what HH said about SJH earlier (that there's rumors about them visiting a wedding hall, that they started dating at the 2013 MAMA) should make KJK nervous, and would certainly give the audience hints about who KJK is dating. HH is sort of treating KJK and SJH like they're a known couple when they're not. 

 

We may not have gotten an RM episode this week, but BP sure knows how to satisfy us spartace shippers.

[kookiemongg]

you guys have already talked a lot about this.. so just want to add few things.. 

well, i did watched the part with all the teasing over and over and over again till i'm convinced. but more focusing on his gestures.. 

and one thing i'm so sure about is KJK LOOKS HAPPY. it's like he's enjoying the whole teasing regarding him and SJH. it's obvious. seriously.

 

couldn't hide his happiness, huh? 

 

 

 

as i said, he looks happy but you could also sense his nervousness.. and i did a little research on the "touching your nose" thing.

 

By touching your nose too much, someone might think you are lying. Yes, it is allergy season, or you just had a run in with your Aunt Mildred’s very friendly feline and you’re allergic to cats. You know that. But the more you touch your nose, the more you are signaling unwittingly to someone that doesn’t know you that you’re anxious about something. The clinical reason for scratching your nose is this: when your blood pressure goes up, blood flow to the nose increases, causing tissues and mast cells to dilate. The mast cells may then begin to release histamine. If it is a real itch, people generally rub their nose vigorously once. If someone just touches their nose lightly but repeatedly, someone might be trying to be deceptive, or they have something to hide, according to some body language specialists.

 

anyways, just pay attention to KJK's hands and the paper. so busy moving, especially his left hand. what i've always noticed from KJK is he always has this nervousness in him with anything SJH's related. for example: ep 401 - YJS mentioned SJH's BF,  the truth or dare ep, etc. he sure is cannot act. 

 

 

 

KJK's expression, right here also caught my attention. after HH mentioned "MAMA". KJK seems to be trying to hide his smile and trying to control it. 

 

 

btw, here's his "fake thinking" expression that you've mentioned Lol.  @CI0

 

 

and i think.. Papa Smurf's reaction is all of us LOL  i bet he has the same curiosity level as us.. even though KJK might not tell him the truth about his relationship with SJH but come on, Papa Smurf is definitely not gullible. and i've always believed not only RM members, i feel Gapjin, Tiny, RM PD's.. all knew about SA.

 

 

HH's expression kinda reminds me of his expression when he was guested on MUD. the "oops.. i've said too much" look after he said "SJH was drunk and called me". i mean.. yes, he's smiling.. but you could sense a little "awkwardness" in his facial expressions.

 

 

[Regita M. P]

42 minutes ago, caliunnie said:

just noticed, after jk asked if haha is writing a novel, Haha teased him about HJY and not even one comment after he gets a hit with the paper in Jk's hand. So one comment about HJY gets him a punishment but continuous aggressive teasing about JH makes JK a blushing mess!

 

They mentioned HJY ? It seems no. correct me if im wrong.

[Regita M. P]

38 minutes ago, linzer03 said:

Fourthly, 2013 theory FTW! I don't believe HH is telling 100% the truth (that they started dating at the 2013 MAMA), but I do think there are shades of truth to his romance novel. KJK looks far too panicked at points for there not to be some truth there. I do think spartace were dating by the 2013 MAMA. And maybe there was an incident with SJH drinking a glass of wine (KJK says "no" to that way too quickly; if the story was made up he shouldn't even know what HH was going to say about SJH drinking wine yet) and going to KJK's room when they were staying in a hotel. It's possible HH is combining different stories. For instance, the wine thing happened at a different point in time (e.g. Macau) and HH is simply pretending the story happened during the MAMA so he can tell it and watch KJK frozen in panic.

So this is interesting. HH brings up that KJK dated for 7 years. On MUD, KJK revealed that he dated someone for 7 years and someone for 6 years. My guess was that SJH was the 6 year relationship (2013 + 2014 + 2015 + 2016 + 2017+ 2018 = 6 years, and it's possible if you include Korean style of counting that SJH is the 7 year relationship). So HH is talking about one of KJK's two long relationships. I could really go either way in my opinion since KJK brought up HH's 5 year relationship (which was before Byul) so it seems only fair that HH was talking about KJK's prior relationship. But also, HH was talking about SJH a lot in the episode, so it's reasonable that HH was still talking about the years KJK has dated SJH. Honestly, it's possible that HH started talking about the previous 7 year relationship and then switched to SJH partway through. Who knows.

 

Anyway, the part that I really found interesting, KJK says "Who do you treat me like you? You revealed your relationship." This doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me unless KJK is dating SJH. KJK himself talked about the length of his relationships on MUD, so what they're saying here shouldn't be a big deal. And other than that, HH hasn't really said anything that would expose KJK's other 7 year relationship. No hints about who she was or anything. But what HH said about SJH earlier (that there's rumors about them visiting a wedding hall, that they started dating at the 2013 MAMA) should make KJK nervous, and would certainly give the audience hints about who KJK is dating. HH is sort of treating KJK and SJH like they're a known couple when they're not. 

 

 

Agree with you, Ofc Haha doesn't tell all of about SA moment is the truth, so I think about SJH drunk in there its false but I believe they meet & talk together before & or after MAMA award incl maybe lent battery, we can hear KJK said YES before hit Haha.

 

I think KJK with his relationship 7 years and 6 years it's about past his relationship, means with his x gf, KJK once said : he make a long wait and then she leave me, so i think not about SJH.

 

Correct me if im wrong.

[linzer03]

7 minutes ago, Regita M. P said:

Agree with you, Ofc Haha doesn't tell all of about SA moment is the truth, so I think about SJH drunk in there its false but I believe they meet & talk together before & or after MAMA award incl maybe lent battery, we can hear KJK said YES before hit Haha.

 

I think KJK with his relationship 7 years and 6 years it's about past his relationship, means with his x gf, KJK once said : he make a long wait and then she leave me, so i think not about SJH.

 

Actually, I was kind of saying that I think the incident with wine and hotel happened at a different time than the MAMA (e.g. Macau, Thailand fanmeet), and HH just decided to combine the two stories (it's often easier when making things up to stick to some semblance to the truth). HH wouldn't have been present for anything that happened during the MAMA, but he has certainly shared hotels with spartace before. But this is all speculative. For all we know, HH is just making stuff up to tease KJK.

 

In MUD, KJK said that he had two long relationships. The longest relationship was 7 years (which spartace fans suspect was his previous one) and then KJK mentions he had a 6 year relationship (which we suspect is SJH). I always thoughts the 6 year one is SJH because KJK felt the need to mention it as well (because the 6 year one is more important). But the MUD episode was something like six months ago, so they could consider SJH a 7 year relationship now as well (rounding up). But I do think the 7 year relationship is his previous one, and KJK switched to complaining about HH talking about SJH too much.

[Regita M. P]

3 minutes ago, linzer03 said:

 

Actually, I was kind of saying that I think the incident with wine and hotel happened at a different time than the MAMA (e.g. Macau, Thailand fanmeet), and HH just decided to combine the two stories (it's often easier when making things up to stick to some semblance to the truth). HH wouldn't have been present for anything that happened during the MAMA, but he has certainly shared hotels with spartace before. But this is all speculative. For all we know, HH is just making stuff up to tease KJK.

 

In MUD, KJK said that he had two long relationships. The longest relationship was 7 years (which spartace fans suspect was his previous one) and then KJK mentions he had a 6 year relationship (which we suspect is SJH). I always thoughts the 6 year one is SJH because KJK felt the need to mention it as well (because the 6 year one is more important). But the MUD episode was something like six months ago, so they could consider SJH a 7 year relationship now as well (rounding up). But I do think the 7 year relationship is his previous one, and KJK switched to complaining about HH talking about SJH too much.

 

 

Ahhhh IC IC... Agree with u !!

Thank you .........

[caliunnie]

@kookiemongg looooved the analysis! Thanks you! All his facial responses to the teasing were so uncharacteristic, plus the lip bitting and the smile hiding!! 

 

@Regita M. P i definitely could be wrong but it seems "battery" is often use to refer (or related topics, i saw it in WGM and secret hotel) to HJY because of her most popular song "love battery" (like JK sometimes is referred to as "one man" for the same reason) so as they used the word "battery" and it didn't make a whole lot of sense I thought Haha was just teasing some more this time with a more burdensome topic for Jk causing him to get hit with paper... you are right, I could be wrong. It made sense when I first watched that part.

[greenteamochix]

hi everyone! i'm a lurker on this thread from loose time to time but I've shipped SA since 2010 - my preface to the ship is, I've watched Running Man since episode 1. Started noticing them flirting around the 60s, esp the time of the Superhero power episode (the original one) and shipped them because they were flirting every episode around then and after. I'm more of a Running Man fan now than specifically SA but I like them and have watched over their RS for years and was a pretty hardcore SA shipper back in the 2010+ days/years. (btw I really miss the iSubs forum for SA because we were LIVE watching their relationship bud during the beginning and the forum was huge, nostalgia. i won't miss Monday Couple shippers hating on our thread though.) I've always been rooting for them both in their personal lives to say that I want them both to be happy, together or separate.

 

I just wanted to note, and I don't know if this was discussed when the news broke thought I'm sure it was and I'll just bring up again, but my suspicion is when SBS wanted to fire KJK and SJH and replace with Kang Ho Dong - they chose them two specifically because it's an open secret with the staff that they've been dating for a long time and SBS when trying to revamp the show decided to off them since it would be/will be trouble when they announce dating/ getting married. It would be weird and I don't know how but hope it would work for them to be married and still part of the RM cast. But anyway just thought about that randomly and decided to post

[aliciago000]

18 hours ago, mn0096 said:

 

As for Papa Smurf, I didn’t understand why even after SJH denied on KB, he pushed for her to join the guys at the LA baseball game. He was there when she denied, yet he just casually disregarded her statement that she and KJK were not an item. He suggested her going after KJK said that he always wanted to take his GF overseas. So, in Papa Smurf’s mind, KJK’s GF equals SJH? As you noted, he also did a bizarre thing: He assured KJK that SJH didn’t say anything bad. As with Gap Jin, I’m sure Papa Smurf knows SA’s true equation. He may not have known at first, but he has since figured it out

can i ask in what episode of KB waa this? thanx!

[mn0096]

1 hour ago, aliciago000 said:

can i ask in what episode of KB waa this? thanx!

 

#120

[smartace]

18 hours ago, Regita M. P said:

 

They mentioned HJY ? It seems no. correct me if im wrong.

He did.. the battery comment was a reference to HJY's love battery song.

[spartaceluv98]

27 minutes ago, smartace said:

He did.. the battery comment was a reference to HJY's love battery song.

Yes haha hyung did not actually mention hong jin young's name but the comment "battery" is synonym to jinyoung noona due to her famous song "Love Battery". That comment was what made jong kook hyung a little pissed off and made him hit haha hyung with the paper.

 

Also in today' ep BP ep 25 around minit 2:59, when they asked Toc Tien who her favourite RM member was, she answered "Ace" but she seemed to can't recall jihyo noona's name so jong kook hyung asked "(did you mean) jihyo? Ahh the girl (member)?". Then Toc Tien said "yes, jihyo." 

Haha was not satisfied with Toc Tien's answer since he wanted her to pick among the male members who was her favourite. Lol then she answered her favourite male member was jaesok. Haha hyung was still not satisfied and asked her who was her 2nd favourite male member. Then toc tien said "i forgot the name. He is a rapper and part of Monday couple?" So her favourite 2nd male member was gary. By this time, haha hyung and jong kook hyung wanted to end the interview since both of them were not her favourite member by the way Toc Tien was really cute, sweet and energetic and went along with the BP hyungs really well.

[kookiemongg]

and you know, HH is the one who was so eager to get picked by toc tien. but i find it interesting when they put (how you say this?) the "bomb graphic"? to KJK only after toc tien picked KG. 

 

 

[sofiemarz]

1 hour ago, spartaceluv98 said:

Yes haha hyung did not actually mention hong jin young's name but the comment "battery" is synonym to jinyoung noona due to her famous song "Love Battery". That comment was what made jong kook hyung a little pissed off and made him hit haha hyung with the paper.

Really??? So it's another secret message??? Coz i tried to translate the caption when jk said yes abt the battery and hit haha, it says "the battery was borrowed"...if i interpret it, HH was trying to continue the story, its like HH was saying jh went to jk room to borrow charger, but instead jk gave battery! Coz the convo says, "you lend battery not lend charger"...but i maybe wrong! 

[kookiemongg]

41 minutes ago, sofiemarz said:

Really??? So it's another secret message??? Coz i tried to translate the caption when jk said yes abt the battery and hit haha, it says "the battery was borrowed"...if i interpret it, HH was trying to continue the story, its like HH was saying jh went to jk room to borrow charger, but instead jk gave battery! Coz the convo says, "you lend battery not lend charger"...but i maybe wrong! 

 

maybe you're also right..  

IIRC, when they filmed this BP special, KJK has already denied / made it clear that there's nothing to the HJY thing (MUD ep when KJK and his mom denied - the one with his nieces). even though after that we got the "swimming pool" ep. so yeah.. kinda confusing. but anyways, despite all of this it doesn't matter anymore. 

[aliciago000]

4 hours ago, mn0096 said:

 

#120

sorry but i cant find it.. do u have a link please? Thanx!

[spartaceluv98]

48 minutes ago, sofiemarz said:

Really??? So it's another secret message??? Coz i tried to translate the caption when jk said yes abt the battery and hit haha, it says "the battery was borrowed"...if i interpret it, HH was trying to continue the story, its like HH was saying jh went to jk room to borrow charger, but instead jk gave battery! Coz the convo says, "you lend battery not lend charger"...but i maybe wrong! 

Maybe i am wrong, please do not take my answer as a definite one. I was just thinking haha hyung was purposely trying to make jong kook hyung more pissed off by mentioning that word "battery". Even the caption said "wrapping up with saying anything "battery". But it doesnt matter though, like what @kookiemongg said.  Jong kook hyung already made in clear in RM 2 weeks ago that there is indeed nothing going on between him and jinyoung noona. So i believe this is his way of wanting to give a hint to pds that he does not intend to do that jinyoung-jongkook loveline in RM anymore. Just hope SBS respects him enough and not invite jinyoung over to RM or MUD anymore. 

[cloudiee1004]

i have always following this Kpop prediction twitter ... there are a lot but yeah this attracted me ...

 

 

https://twitter.com/KPOP_predict18/status/1057304950508843008

 

An idol couple will be getting married soon, they’ll announce about it before the year ends.

 

is SA an IDOL couple? ...