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  1. 1 minute ago, hiluna said:

    I am not sure how much of that scene WW saw but he knows that So is ruthless and may not know that he is trying to save her by his act. However, he should have known that So is quite capable of handling the assassin's attempt to kill Soo since his sword was already in position to block and he could certainly have aimed his knife at the assassin's sword arm. 

    @hiluna  SO did that to get the killer to give up which he was until WW came and played the man with the halo..he really wasn't needed and SO wasn't going to kill her because she affiliated with his family.. HS on the other hand has always been more interested in WS more then she cares to remember since ep 2

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  2. 4 minutes ago, hiluna said:

    I may be the minority but I think HJH's acting is as good as KHN (neither are on par with LJG).  I don't know if it is the writing, acting or the directing but since WW became an evil genius and game player, it is harder to believe that WW was the gentle loving character of before.  I feel that either WW should have shown hints of his cleverness/deviousness earlier and not acted like a lead character hopelessly in love with Soo, either by KHN's acting (a hint of falseness when interacting with Soo) or by the writer with a plan of action to save Soo even if it fails. It is unbelievable that he can be such a strategist in the game of throne but could not think of a single plan to save Soo multiple times.  It would have been better to show WW's character as clearly two faced when dealing with Soo in the earlier episodes so that the change in his character (or rather the two faces that he shows) would not be so out of the blue.

    @hiluna  I agree WW and WY acting is about the same and yes he looks very handsome with his extra added hair to his face.. Now moving on to WW his evil character was revealed in episode 3 and so on.. And in the first forrest scene I saw his act when he could have told HS the truth about WS wasn't trying to have her killed he was saving her life but he killed the bad man to make himself look like a hero to HS.. 

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  3. 5 minutes ago, hrkharis said:

    From the beginning I have predicted that WW is a wolf in sheep's clothing.
    Having a soft face and sweet words always come out of his mouth, but in fact he is a person who a lot of pretense, fake and cunning act.

    @hrkharis  Howdy how are you, It's been a while. 

    I figured him out in episode 1 and said he wasn't to be trusted, 

     

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  4. 52 minutes ago, meahri_1 said:

    This seems so wrong on so many levels. :P

     

    @meahri_1  You not kidding it's wrong on way to many different levels, I know they probably cast her because they had work together before but to have him marry his Tv daughter is ridiculous.. I don't think the knetz or going to like this even his fans might have something negative to say.. I know she's not the only child actor there is and they should have made damn sure to choose a different child..:tears:

    9 minutes ago, littleloony said:

    Off topic but relevant seeing as how miserable we are today......I have to ask-- why do baseball games get broadcasted on channels like SBS, KBS or MBC? To my understanding these are all 'general entertainment channels'.....so does Korea not have exclusive sports channels like ESPN etc.....do they also not have exclusive news channels? 

    Every year I face the same thing where one or more dramas are postponed due to baseball and I never quite understood why they need to braodcast it at all?

    @littleloony  I couldn't agree more we don't take over there sport station and they have more then one it ridiculous.. But we will get some back to back episodes or and extention.. Bad enough people in my house or hung up on the presidential election and my only salvation is my kdrama and LJK and now the cutting me off to watch a bunch of grown men play catch SMH   

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  5. 21 minutes ago, violet90 said:

    so i did read on twitter that maybe SBS will air eps 14 if the baseball game ended before 9.26 kst...

    pray to kdrama god to end this baseball games as usual.. well at least before 9.26 kst..... LOL

    i need this episode so much.. we been waiting for the sweet moment since ep 1 and now all of our fate watching the date and kiss scene between OTP depend on freaking baseball games......

    @violet90  I'm praying that the game will end early enough for the episode could air and I can get out of going to the grocery store..

    I voted wow I like both Ki but could only choose one..

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  6. 5 hours ago, lclarakl said:

     

    Same here @valsava. This was a practice of many royal families around the world. This also explains why this type of inbreeding eventually resulted in children with infertility issues, physical malformations, intellectual deficits, etc. 

    I will say that I'm only on episode 6, but I don't feel comfortable with the attraction between the 8th Prince (Wook) and Hae Soo---something about flirting with another woman's husband is just a turn off for me. Yes, I understand the period in which this drama is being depicted, but something about the way it's depicted here just doesn't feel comfortable for me.  Wook's wife and pushing them together because she's sick and dying, and Wook is gorgeous and so supportive of Hae Soo...........but I'm turned off and hate when she seeks him out and being flirty.  Okay, I must continue with my marathon watching.

    HOWEVER, the thing that turns me off more than anything, is two brothers (3rd Prince and 4th Prince) trying to impress their sister as a possible marriage mate----disgusting.

    @lclarakl  WW and Hs disgusted me in the earlier episodes I got through it just because of the 4th prince HS the over friendly people pleaser and WW the man with many faces and a coward to boot.. I agree I know it was and era were men could have more then one wife but her being the cousin of his late wife was a turnoff for me..

     

    7 minutes ago, UnniSarah said:

    Kang Jo throwing out Mokjong (Wang So's grandson) and making Wook2's son king is much much later and unrelated to Gwangjong weakening the clans. Mokjong's mom (Wook1's daughter) and her boyfriend were pretty much dominating the court, so he lost interest in ruling and just had fun with his boyfriend. Of course, historical records we read today are from the winner's perspective, so we always have to take it with a grain of salt. Some records indicate that Mokjong entrusted Kang Jo to get rid of his mom's boyfriend and Kang Jo turned on him in the process, but who knows.

    @UnniSarah   I wonder do the drama frozen flower relates to this a lot of KIngs back then took up with they Eunichs and refuse to sleep with a queen..   Also were did you read this msgs me the site so I could read it with a grain of sand.

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  7. 18 hours ago, liddi said:

    I have been wondering for quite a while about how the ranking of the royal consorts work in Goryeo.

    The Joseon dynasty seems a lot more similar to their Chinese counterpart, with one Queen consort to whom the rest of the consorts are subject to. However, for Goryeo, we see several queens at the same time. The C-subs which are usually extremely clear in the translations of rank, align with the English subs in addressing both Queen Yoo and Queen Hwangbo as 王后 (queen), effectively putting them on a similar ranking. @ruizaio or anyone else familiar with Korean history, can you please help to explain the level of the consorts within the Goryeo family? Queen Yoo appears to outrank Queen Hwangbo in terms of authority, yet ostentatiously they hold the same position. Are they the same rank? Or does the seniority come with who was raised to be queen first? From what I have seen, not all consorts who gave birth to princes were automatically promoted to queens, so how do they gain that title?

    @liddi  This is a valet question, I was also wondering about that because far as I know there could be only one Queen and from my understanding Queen Hwangbo should be first rank royal concubine how is she a queen I have no clue. I was wondering was she a Queen of another country and Tejong conquerd in war and agreed to marry her or what, My guess is she's the one he married after the oldest child of Queen Yoo died, So how is marrying making her a queen I don't get it I know it's something to do with the clans.. 

    This is posted on page 1029 I don't know if someone have given a good explaination to this question or nor but I'm not going to read 20 pages just to see if someone answerd please let me no the page if you remembered.. 

    4 hours ago, violet90 said:

    OMG....

    so HS is not being held as a hostage... she will be framed and most likely going to get a death sentenced... gosh HS really can't catch a break... all hell will loose for WS so now we know how desperate he is to revolt during WY reign... we can see YH part will play in...

    the twist........................................... so Chaeryung ahhhhh......

    @violet90  Poor Hs just can't catch a break And two prince framed her this time, Maybe this is when Ws kills one of his brothers Yes Yh have very cunningly and cleverly enlisted Cr in helping her ..

    1 hour ago, lclarakl said:

    This drama, I think, has helped me answer a question about Korean culture that I have never understood--double in-laws taboo; it's consider complicated relationships.  I've never understood the opposition of two sisters marrying men who happened to be brothers or siblings marrying a man or a woman that were once in-laws.  My thought has always been that if they are not related by blood or not an adopted family member (even then I don't hold a hard line), I don't have a problem with two sisters dating two brothers that are not related to them by blood.

    In this drama, there are brothers marrying sisters and uncles marrying nieces (if it stays true to history). So it seems the culture shifted from one extreme to another.  However, I will say that I'm pleased to see in dramas more double-in-law relationships are being shown.

    @lclarakl  I was amazed at this also and understood the reasoning of it.. But I still can't get over the fact ofd brother marrying half sister and having children with her it's just disgusting to think about even marrying his neice but talk about keeping royal blood royal this is it

     

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  8. 1 hour ago, fuyukoneko said:

    Could someone provide a rough translation of next episode's summary?

    8 days wolhwa SBS drama "Lovers of the Moon - trying Scarlet Heart" (a play joyunyoung / gimgyutae Director / lover more than a month) side coming 10 to 11 prior to the scheduled broadcast time 14-15 Damier seawater geumuihwanhyang to head Won (Lee, Ji - Eun It unveiled the steel of minutes).

    Nobles became the seawater was maid of honor to take care of the Damiani won the royal family, including the emperor to avoid the marriage of Emperor Taejo Wang Geon mind and body. Seawater uptake of various publications in teaching and aeteuthan love in the five sanggung (Hee-Jin Woo minutes) Damiani won favorite various Joensuu such seyok, grooming, including tea and wateotgo Dodgers skills, time jeongyun (Prince) was the new emperor hyejong ( salpimyeo the complications of gimsanho minutes) has been a favorite bar.

    According to the crew undergoing a sea gateun hardship involved in the Imperial Palace it was devoted to amtu gyobang gotta Mussoorie is the head of Damien won as soon as chaekbong best sanggung according to hyejong people take care of his illness. Always jikideon 4 hwangja wangso (Lee min) also gotta notice him in the next life in the palace to collect their expectations even romance.

    What the more the back of five sanggung itge water is going, nothing can rob moreudeon iron actions and cautious rhetoric according to the will and teachings of the five sanggung instead should jolly in the last days of unprecedented literally attention to the appearance of the two Imperial person .

    In particular, the public seawater picture in grasping the baton of five sanggung always has attended two hands captivates the eye is more mature look such as Damiani won the salpineun ply throughout. Deepened eyes and not disturbed appearance, of course, my beautiful punggyeo up the scent of a woman is mature enough to say out clause.

    Damien won maid of honor at the entrance of the center of the saga that seawater is 8 hwangja wanguk (river sky min) declared dugetdago the street heard his maid chaeryeong Joensuu (main novelties min) captivates the eye. Chaeryeong 8 hwangja foray into consideration in the Damiani won in wanguk, described it helps him in the water next to the crew.

    Side "Lovers of the Moon", "scheduled gotta The head of the seawater Damiani won suffered a lot from the Imperial Palace to show more mature look, four can meet the deepening romance between hwangja wangso" he said. "In addition, the Huang Quan struggle unfinished due to the turbulent vortex it is facing a case at the center of the Imperial palace. Different watch with the fate of the sea, "he said.

    http://m.entertain.naver.com/read?oid=109&aid=0003408517&lfrom=twitter

     

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  9. 9 hours ago, bebebisous33 said:

    @40somethingahjumma I don't think that we can consider Hae Soo's behaviour as someone who has experienced an abusive relationship before and that would be her reason that she stayed with Wook for so long. No, in my opinion Hae Soo has never seen Wang Wook for whom he was. She was totally blind, just like Candide. Her former boyfriend was just like Wang Wook in my opinion, well-mannered and good looking who promised her many things. Notice her cellphone picture: she is with her boyfriend smiling and in that moment, she sees him with her friend cheating on her. So the picture is fake in the end, it is just an illusion and the reality is that he is not faithful at all. In my opinion, Hae Soo has never paid attention to details, just like with Wang Wook. She forgets that he was cold and distant towards her for a while (episode 4) after realising that he had fallen for her. She also doesn't remember that his words and his look in the library were not nice. Finally he promised her many things but he never made it come true. 

    Since Hae Soo is someone who is concerned a lot about the future, promises sounded and sound good to her. She accepts these kind of promises because promises are always future-oriented. Therefore she never paid and pays attention to his present actions. Like Taejo told her, she should focus more on the present and on what she has than the future. This also explains why she got conned by her ex-boyfriend with the debts. It was again about the future. He might have promised again something. Her mistakes are that

    - she is too optimistic and only wants to see the best in people;

    - she thinks too much about the future so that she neglects the present. As results, she is blind to notice the actions of her friends around her. Since she is too future-oriented, she hates changes because she has already planned in her head what her future would look like.

    Maybe that's the reason why she had these visions! She is always anticipating the future (she paints in her head how it would be), but this time, it is different. She has no control over the future. These visions are not a dream, but reality!! These visions might be there to force her to change her way of thinking, not to be afraid of the future and changes (both are related), but to enjoy the present and accept the future as it will come. As conclusion, she should face the present and reality and less dream about the future! 

    The other reason why she was loyal to Wang Wook was because she takes her "vows" very seriously. Even when she had been disappointed by Wang Wook, she thought, she had to stay by his side, since she promised it too. She took her promise very seriously which underlines the contrast between her and Wang Wook. When Hae Soo promises something, she will do anything to keep her promise. On the other hand, she promised Wang So that she would never change and trust him, but later she actually said the exact opposite of what she had promised. In the episode 12, she is so disenchanted that she mentioned Wang Wook in the past (she had someone else in her heart) that her love for him has changed, yet she doesn't accept the change, she wants to make sure that she won't change as she hates change hence she keeps being loyal to him... until she has to promise to the king, she will help him. Then she is put in front of an alternative. She has to chose the side. 

    Honestly, this thread is moving really so fast that I can no longer keep up reading all the comments. So it would be great, if both of you could tag me, when you write something!!  ;)

    @bebebisous33  Thank you so much with this post this is what I was trying to get at in regards to HS /HJ past and presence, She always want to see the good in people and never see the presence of a person true nature as time goes by she wants to keep them in that pretty vase never to change sort of like a flower real against plastic we all know real wilts as fake stays the same and so does HS.. So inconclusion of her character I think Jimong took her back just to make this change in HJ life to see people for whom they really are.. As you said stop looking at the future and think of the presence. Accept change change could be good not all negative things comes out of change..

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    7 hours ago, KdramaSwimmer said:

     

     

    :heart::heart::heart:

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  11. 7 hours ago, Hanazumi said:

    Yes, I think Queen Hwangbo's family is pretty powerful. The only reason for Queen Yoo to have such influence was because when Queen Hwangbo was exiled or so, Queen Hwangbo was not a queen back then. That's what I think. But since they are both the queens now, anything can happen.

    @Hanazumi  I could see both mothers fighting over this position now that the King is dead,I'm surprised YH didn't try to take up this role then pushing mother and Yoo aside.

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    7 hours ago, dears said:
    14 hours ago, addicted2drama said:

    i just have this idea ... what if .. HS get pregnant and then Chae Ryung is the reason she have miscarriage ...  CR just follow 9th prince 

    Oh la la la what will WS do? WS might kill the 2 but what will HS feel if she heard about the news ... that the reason they were both killed because they killed their unborn child and almost killed HS too. I think this will make HS health deteriorate. 

    But the thing is in Hae Soo's vision, it is 10th prince and his wife who are killed by Wang So. It's not 9th prince and Chae Ryung.

    I know Chae Ryung was said to be hiding something and it will be a surprise, but I don't think it is like what you predict.

    @dears & @addicted2drama  Now heres a killing that might be justified,and HS with her blinders on still won't see it.. I could see CR framing HS for killing her unborn child remember the only way she could marry our young prince was to agree to HS marrying him to and become his concubine.. She's another besides YH has even a bigger grudge..(This also could be YH doing trying to get HS killed and once again WW covered for her) What CR could be hiding is that she knew her father was planning a coupe to put his young SIL on the throne remember WS even killed the Gnrl.. Even though the young princes wasn't his choice for a SIL he wanted he wanted the prince that liked martial arts but she cried for the young one it really didn't matter which one to him because he already had this plan in the making since he taught WS how to fight and survive WS was his first choice being he was chosen also with the face of a king but the two children grew up like brother and sister.. So this could be another life and death situation for WS and HS being the rose colored fool she is thinks the killing isn't justifiable enough for him to kill off the three not seeing that if he don't more trouble is to come.. WS is the type one swift move takes care of it all sort of like nip it in the bud.. I like this about him.. I don't see this as happily killing but a neccessary killing..

    7 hours ago, kdramatist said:

    My favorite kdrama right now. Enjoying how history gets it wrong . HS comes from a time where she is taught the WS kills all his brothers to take the throne because of his own greed. Yet, we are learning he is simply protecting the CP and his father's decree.   Wook threw her under the bus to protect his Mom and sister. As unromantic as that is, I would hope not to throw my family away for a girl I just met.  At the same token its not really all that clear cut either, WS has so much luggage from being the orphaned child. That is the part of the story that is unclear to me, why does the Mom hate him so much?  She is the one who cut his face.  Is is because she knew the king favored him?  Appreciate any thoughts on that.  The incestful nature of the in marrying is gross but understandable as history progresses folks are more enlightened.  I always appreciate the saeguks as they always keep it real with the tough life of being royality....its not all glitz and glory as most would like to think.  

    @kdramatist  We have discuss serveral reason why Yoo hates her own son.. In my opinion Ws was also the kings favorite and born under the star of a ruler. When they eldest child had died and the king had to remarry because of the clans she used Ws as a threat to stop the king.. Not only do he reminds her of how evil she is and how broken of a women she became not able to obtain his love only for her.. He also reminds her of a true ruler which she hates because she sees WY far better then WS and scared that her secret of runing him would be let out she's the villian that did that to her son.. She herself could be seen as nuts and should be lock up.. Remember Queen Yoo is a firm believer like those clan members that only a Queen son could rule and only the eldest son could inherit the throne.. Now being that Ws has the face and brains of a true ruler he comes after WY this is also another reason she scars his face to stop those seers from seeing the true ruler. Maybe it was something about WS that overpowered WY but she's really afraid of WS. Remember she wanted him dead and far away so she could erase that part of her life.. My personal opinion she was jealous of his beauty also outshinning hers and being the most admired in the country..

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  12. 2 minutes ago, violet90 said:

    i think HS don't even know how to love someone.. both WS and HS is a little bit lost in term of love but they learning through each other BUT its just like a saying 'once broken it will never be the same'... HS trust is being broken first from her bf and now WW.. i think she will enter a relationship with WS with a cautious heart.. no matter how much HS will love him her heart is always guarded.. about WS once he learn and taste the love from HS it will be a drug for him.. it will slowly destroy him ...

    you can see how beautiful WS and HS love story is but their love is a little bit dysfunction for me... both of them is broken inside so in a way their love is broken too.... maybe that's the point of the story..

    love no matter how deep or beautiful sometime not enough..

    @violet90  I totally agree with this sometimes that love can be dysfunctional and not enough, She will keep trying to repair him and he will continue trying to make her see things thats not as they appear to be..(the shades of roses in her eyes) That it's self is challenging enough, I somehow thinks there a different meaning to this story.. I think Jimong took her back in time for her to change something about her past that effects her future. If it's her to become Queen it would be nice but I do think it has something to do with her choice of staying with WS.. This is why HS / HJ couldn't recognizes the betrayal in the past and presence thats the key factor here. So she will guard her heart just as you said against the wrong person.. 

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  13. 24 minutes ago, iridescentmoth said:

    Wook encapsulates everything dangerous about a man of perceived morality and the ambitious that lies beneath; he eventually creates his own perception of what is right and wrong, he indulges in his darker thoughts and justifies each one. All this exacerbated by jealousy and the tantalizing prospect of possessing Hae soo and the throne simultaneously, we haven't seen anything yet!

    I'm kinda...anticipating Wook's true self reveal, we're only just encroaching upon who he really is. 

    @iridescentmoth   So am I, He's been hiding behind his masks to long it's time to pull them all off.. 

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  14. 19 minutes ago, SizzlerZ said:

     

    @valsava I completely forgot about the Queens. After looking at how they've been involving with each other over the past few episodes I think it's leading up to something big. WY's arrival and rebellion might be where the queens step and something major happens. I think during CP's reign WW's side might have a bit more power compared to Queen Yo's side because WW proved his loyalty to CP and WY committed treason. This might be when WW's mother might do something to take revenge for the injustice till now. She doesn't look like the kind do something like that but it's always possible. 

    @SizzlerZ  From the last episode of the King dying the way she behaved show that she's been waiting to get back at the Queen, I also think her family is more powerful then the Queens, So maybe WY first line of business was to take the head clan leaders and hold them hostage this is his payback to WW for stabbing him in the back, Wy may have killed the leaders to show he means business and to weaken that power WW family had..

    11 minutes ago, violet90 said:

    @valsava

    IF what you said its true that WW will be the mastermind between HS taken as hostage cause WW knew how much HS mean to WS... that just make me loss all the little respect i have on him.. gosh HS is someone that he used to love and now using her to make himself look like hero??? that a low thing to do......

    15 minutes ago, qwenli said:

    Incidentally Uk being ambitious doesn't bother me but really he's such a weasel about it. The man can't even be open about it like Yeon Hwa or Yo. It is fascinating that he wants to do bad things behind the scenes and come up smelling like roses... but really who is he kidding?

    also the moment HS give her heart to WS there is nothing WW can do to get her back.. she a loyal and faithful person and we can see during HS and WW together although WS keep swaying her feeling she never accept that.. its the same here but the feeling is stronger cause when HS with WS cause she actually being love by WS... literally physical and emotion so WW your chance is long gone...

    @violet90  Qwenli didn't make the highlighted comment @40somethingahjumma Did and we all been watching this drama WW is a weasel that always like to smell like a bed of roses and he's been showing us his highs and lows since the first episode and it really came visable by episode 3.. At this point I put nothing past him.. Lose of respect, How can you respect such a coward regardless mother sister or brother our deep thinker could have saved HS and still protected his family at pointing all things Queen the King wouldn't have harmed any of them he would have chalk it up just as he did when Ws told him those monks was the Queen people so let your respect for him fool you the writer is very clever.. WW is the man that wears many masks so I always think dark when it comes to him and his sister.. 

    Another thing Queen maybe all for WS marrying HS because she owes YH one..    

    21 minutes ago, violet90 said:

    also the moment HS give her heart to WS there is nothing WW can do to get her back.. she a loyal and faithful person and we can see during HS and WW together although WS keep swaying her feeling she never accept that.. its the same here but the feeling is stronger cause when HS with WS cause she actually being love by WS... literally physical and emotion so WW your chance is long gone...

    Also I wouldn't call HS loyal or faithful if she was she wouldn't have desires for her cousins husband before and after death.. As much as I love the idea of our So Soo ship I think HS takes Ws love for her as a security blanket and for granted she knows he go out of the way to protect her which it's nothing wrong with that but I think she still a little confused about love..With that being said both she and he is learning what real love is.. She's going to feel betrayed again when Ws has to marry YH but it will be her own fault to my understanding because when he ask her, and her seeing what palace life is like she's going to regret she turned him down..

    Let's hope for a twist in the story that Ws do takes the throne but when HS agrees to be loyal and faithful and leave with him he gives the throne to WW.. Let him and YH battle each other for power LOL (Wishful thinking)    

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  15. 5 hours ago, violet90 said:

    the way WS love HS will be even possessive and obsessive after HS accepted his feeling... this one will happen and ultimately will cause HS to suffocate in the way WS love her... this is why their love in novel often describe as a dysfunction love .. it the type that destroy each other when they together.. 

    even before HS accepted his feeling WS dare to defying king to save HS.. nothing matter to him except HS.. i kinda shock with what WS said about being a king.. that throne is only a tool to get HS heart and nothing more.. he don't even care about the power because IF the throne will give HS heart so he will get that.. simple as that..

    anybody can realize WS can beat WY but remember WY held HS as hostage and WS will drop his sword if there is another sword on HS neck.. this is the only way that WY can be a king... whether HS being kept in palace and WS go out from palace.. this one i don't believe in that cause you can see how WS need HS and to left her there alone?? its just not WS style at all so my guess after WY became a king WS and HS along with BaekAh and Wonhee will ran away from palace...

    @violet90  I can believe this but this also could be apart of WW doing because it may be his bright idea to hold HS hostage to get WS to backdown and once again he shows himself to HS trying to make himself the hero again until HS learns differently that WS gave up the fight to protect her..

    5 hours ago, jenzotaku said:

    I don't think SBS has another channel like MBC & KBS so maybe they won't air the show :(

    @jenzotaku  Trust and believe if they say it's play catch day (BaseBall) that's just what it is maybe the game will finish early enough to air the episode but I won't hold my breath on it..

    5 hours ago, Visually-wandering said:

    How can I survive?

    Only 1 episode each weeks for 3 consecutive weeks?

    I should meet Jimong to make sure about all of this bad news. :blink:

    @Visually-wandering  Look on the bright side of things that one episode will move this thread problly another 1000 comments..All the insightful comment analyze comment and the humor comments so it will be some fun times for those one episodes.

    5 hours ago, violet90 said:

    after HS gone i just wondering how WS life would be...

    @violet90  It will take a minute and a lot of YH comforting but he'll give into her, In the beginning Yh was the only other person that treated him like a human as he said he often wonder what kind of woman she grow up to be.. I think he chooses her to try and keep her from becoming like his vile mother..

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    LET IT RAIN ARROWS ON THE BASEBALL GAME MONDAY :angry:

     

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  16. 3 hours ago, hiluna said:

    He is a man of many talents including singing and dancing, and yes he can cook. I saw a documentary of him as a volunteer in Indonesia I think, where he cooked for the children and he flips the frying pan like a pro. He is Mr. Perfect and it is hard to believe that he hasn't been snapped up yet.

    @hiluna & @trizha1  He's also a sharpshooter yes he's a handsome youngf man with many talents but I like seeing him dance..

    2 hours ago, amisyka77 said:

    Notice how WS puckers his lips just before hers touches his and his neck muscle becomes visible. #giddy

    His 2 moles on the ear n neck are clear here..but the one on the cheek is invisible..too much make up..

    Okay..i need to stop here before i become a beyonte ahjumma..!:glasses:

    @amisyka77  No worries I've been in the pervy Ajjama club for years it's nothing wrong with admiring a handsome young man..:heart:

    1 hour ago, violet90 said:

    i think IF the writer follow the true novel path..  it will be because of HS that WS have to change to be a ruthless and cruel king.. yes HS teach WS how to care and understand other and she the only one that he care ( remember HS word if you only care for one person you will live a hard life ) so everything that he done so far is for HS only.. 

    even the throne battle WS enter it with HS in his mind.. when he be a king he will do anything to protect HS to the point of marrying YH and put her as a queen even he know that YH is really ambitious and she not the person that he love... HS only hope is to live outside palace but he can't do that so he will give everything to her to at least make she happy but HS will only hurt little by little... the feeling seeing someone you love hurting but you can't do anything about it will change WS..

    HS will slowly worn out and WS will be more and more out of control... he have to deal with his brother (treason) and other political thing but his mind full with HS hating him as a king... and then something happen that make a turn in HS and WS path.. HS is more forgiving and she did't anyone die behalf of her no matter what but WS is not the forgiving type...

    WS will do something to protect her and in a way revenge for her but HS can't accept that.. i think this is the only way to make HS turn from WS even when she love him.. not because of they did't love each other but because they love each other too much that its tiring to be around each other...  

    i think HS will die  its just i wish the writer would't be so cruel and let WS hold HS when she gone.. at least they deserve that kind of ending after all they been through... 

    p.s i will love if HS go back to future and have no memory of it and she meet WS in future while visiting the palace and both of them have a deja vu feeling that they meet somewhere.. fall in love and live happily rather than only one of them remember...

    @violet90  I could see loving and protecting someone will become so tiring especially a person like HS whom just want to be the people pleaser that she is thinking being this way is for the best of everyone sakes but the more she acts and be this way the harder things become for WS.. I could see him sending her out of the palace just to have and escape for himself and her and she won't leave not realizing the longer she stays the more dangerous things become for her..

    1 hour ago, UnniSarah said:

    Please Everyone give a theory on why Hae Soo will kiss Wang So?

     My theory is this I think this kiss will happen because she heard Wang So either got married or is going to get married. I think she will change her mind in pursuing Wang SO beccause of the wedding. We all saw our Hae Soo in tears which really breaks my heart. I really hate to see her sad and crying by herself.  SHe deserves so much more but I think Wang So is the one who tells her about the marriage and why he is doing it. . I don't think someone else tell her . I believe the previews likes  to mislead us viewers and have us theorize what will come next and discuss the drama until it comes back on air. Theses writers are really good at mesmerizing us viewers.  

    @UnniSarah  Well I think the kiss has a lot to do with him marrying but also the talk of the other watermaids, Remember they was telling her whats compatable for a woman to marry WW and I could see that really effected her..  At the same time she had been holding on to WW every word and he let her down as to WS everything he has said and done he has always told her.. Hs feels her security in WS so she intitating this kiss is to let him no she has feelings for him also..

    As much as it's going to break my heart to see Ws marrying Yh I'm really egar to see what brings this situation about I hope it's not a marriage because she turns him down.. Thinking that her happiness is with WW..

    59 minutes ago, SizzlerZ said:

    I read somewhere in the forum that during Yo's reign Wook stays by his side. I'm still confused how that happens since WW betrayed WY but it does lead to my new hypothesis. In the preview we see CP getting really sick and also WW trying to convince CP to hand down the thrown to him. It could be that WW allies with Yo after he somehow finds out he's alive. WW could be making CP's condition worse and telling Yo of his conditions so that he can attack at the right time. This is the only reason I can think of why Yo wouldn't kill Wook. Anyone got other ideas?

    @SizzlerZ  I could see this happening due to the evil WW and Yh will be doing even the Queen might tell him to protect his brother afterall they are whats left, Because I could see it coming down to Queen Yoo and her kids with her brothers backing and WW mom the cucubine and the clansmen so palace life will be divided into two groups..

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  17. 1 hour ago, ratgirlina said:

    my guess he agree to it, because it was his brother dying wish. the good and loyal brother that he is, it's a symbolic marriage more than anything.

    i do pity the little niece, the marriage might just be symbolic, but it's still a marriage, she cant have a real husband when she grew up.

    @ratgirlina  I think SO wouldn't hold her into marriage seeing that YH becomes his Queen she may put effort in finding someone to marry her so she can become Queen being that his niece is the first wife and that position go to her.. But I think SO do it just because of his relationship with his brother..

    15 minutes ago, Hanazumi said:

    Please spread the word about this. Fanfiction.net created a category for Moon Lovers.

    https://www.fanfiction.net/tv/Moon-Lovers-Scarlet-Heart-Ryeo-달의-연인-보보경심-려/

    Thanks @Hanazumi  will check it out.

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  18. 1 hour ago, enigmatic_zephy said:

    You guys are just so awesome..

    WHo and how did you find out that he trained to be a chef..

     

    I don't understand how is this man not taken as yet!!!

    So, are there ways to connect/ask questions to k celebs? I am hoping there is a way since i don't think any other industry has such empowered fans other than kentertaiment

    @enigmatic_zephy  I agree I don't get how he's not snatch up yet this is why peopple question is manhood but he do work a lot acting and singing can put a damper on a relationship but I think he's really holding out for that one true person..

    @bebebisous33  I thought about it more and came up with maybe HJ meets WS as a private detective and being that she was broke but it was love at first sight for him and he decides to work for her for free and after he found the Ex and the so called friend and brought justice to HJ they live happily ever after in the presences LOL, Just came up on your post

    5 minutes ago, bebebisous33 said:

    Yes, in my opinion her journey to the past will have an impact on her life in the 21st century. Distinguish real friends from good weather friends and find her love of her life.

    So I hope we could see this change in the presense HJ life..

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  19. 5 hours ago, SizzlerZ said:

    I see people speculating that WS turning into Gwangjong will be because of HS losing something. I think that's valid but I have a feeling it might be more than that. When HS was suspected of poisoning CP and she was tortured, WS didn't go on a crazy rampage. He knew exactly who was involved (except YH) but he didn't take revenge or anything. So I think if something is to happen to HS it will be REALLY BAD or it will something to do with HS and other reasons as well. Maybe Baek Ah as well? Or others?

    @SizzlerZ  Yes I agree something really bad will happen to HS but it may causes him to marry YH seeing that she would do anything to have him.. I think he will be standoffish from her because she's that scary like his mom but I can only imagine after they are married she is all things Queen Yoo the second and choose to only have children with her because he has seen how many children by many concubines turns brothers against brother and the Queen becomes and evil villian.. 

    5 hours ago, shiqin3381 said:

    If haesoo got pregnant, hope she did not get miscarriage as she already lost 2 mother here and when she is about to be a mother herself she lost her baby. This will kill her...

    I want her to be pregnant and give birth in 21 century.

    @shiqin3381  I don't think the writer would even go there if something like this happens WW and YH will be the first ones to flip they lids Yh will join hands with the Queen again including WW to find the medicine to make her miscarry. WS would be mad at So for being to gullible as he as told her time and time again not to trust anyone in the palace, Because it would be WW that gives it to her she still wil want to believe he's really not a bad person.

    4 hours ago, Yongzura said:

    As conclusion, it's the journey of our OTP that matters in this drama and not the ending. Hae Soo and Wang So are learning through their hardships and they both become mature and responsible. Their love for each other changes them. Therefore we should enjoy their journey despite the hardships! 

    But since Voltaire wanted to point out that the world shouldn't be accepted as it is, Hae Soo can be seen as someone who pushes Wang So to change Goryeo, hence the examination based on merits, law about slavery aso. So Hae Soo just like Candide have a small impact in the World: more equity and justice.scroll l pink mouse @Yongzura @valsava  @junee22 @evie7

    @bebebisous33 I have enoyed reading so many insightful comments but something has been stuck in my mind for a while..

    Thanks for pointing this out I knew JM brought back for a change but I'm still kind of skeptical if this it, Yes I can agree with both of your point of view through love that Ws and Hs change through love and Volatire point on changes of Goryeo about Slavery, and a world with equality and justice,but these changes are in effect in modern time S.Korea but Goryeo was set in N.Korea and certain things still happening to this very day.. I guess what I'm getting at is how this would effect HJ life in the present she's already riddle in debt betrayed by both boyfriend and so called friend.. Did JM take her back to the past to change something that could effect her life in the presense. Hope I'm not sounding confusing.. Because this thought has been stuck in my mind for quite a while. 

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