kirbee b Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 (edited) On 5/12/2019 at 8:37 PM, minahnoona said: Ep 451 subbed on Myrunningman.com Subbed ep is out and I watched the spanking segment. One thing about subbing is that sometimes they don't translate literally and apply their own interpretation of the intent of the sentence rather than the actual sentence which I think can be misleading or missing the nuance somethimes? Like Jaesuk's line to Jongkook - 'ni yeoja chingu ya?"which was translated to 'are you two dating?' whereas he clearly said girlfriend "yeoja chingu" (so more like 'is she your girlfriend?). Then there's Jongkook's line "nega do yojeum choahaneun dongsaeng" which was translated as "she's like a sister to me" whereas I think it's more like "these days she's a close younger female that I like" (probably in the sense of am fond of/close to rather than romantically in this context). Dongsaeng doesn't mean sister literally, but a younger male/female that you have a close relationship/friendship with (not just biological younger siblings). For those of us that depend on subs I guess that's the thing we have to deal with. My Korean is very basic but enough to understand simple words, so I do pick up on these things. Just like i notice that in dramas they hardly ever translate Oppa or those other Korean pronouns correctly in English - choosing to use the character names instead in the subs. Thank you so much @minahnoonafor explaining this! I hope any kookmin supporters who took the "sister" translation to literally mean "immediate family member" breathe a little bit easier after reading your post. Here, it seems "dongsaeng" doesn't indicate "immediate family version of sister" anymore than it means "Catholic nun version of sister" If Somin is about to join a convent and can't make TV appearances anymore, I may break down and cry. These days I'm a little bit quieter about kookmin online. Is it because I've lost affection for them or have doubts about them? No, no way. The exact opposite actually. My feelings for kookmin have grown even more tender and softer. I feel like they're so precious and rare. These lovely human connections aren't supposed to bloom on a variety show, yet somehow miraculously here it did. And I'm now in the camp that firmly believes that there's an active romantic component to their relationship. It's because of that confidence in their connection that I feel less of an urge to talk about them 24/7 like I was doing the previous two months. When kookmin still felt like a mystery to me, and I couldn't get a handle on what was going onnnn between these two folks: do they like each other? do they hate each other? are they frienemies? are they crushing on each other? ...I felt more of a need to talk about it and ask questions about it, because then I might come closer to figuring out the mystery of kookmin. And actually, that's kinda what happened lol. I have my own answer to the mystery that was kookmin. (Seriously, @kookminclan RunningMan 's youtube channel is magic, and whatever sincere kookmin wishes get written in the comments there come true! ) Why do I share this? Because I bet there are a lot of RM viewers who feel the way I do these days. They quietly support kookmin and enjoy their interactions. Regardless of whatever noise there was/is about this "dongsaeng" translation, I felt very peaceful about it. No matter how much chatter there is either way, this is what ultimately convinced me that kookmin is legit: https://youtu.be/PyGaH76_Z7E The RM crew walking into the movie theater together at Kwangsoo's premiere with Kookmin up in front. They walk perfectly in sync with each other. Without looking, they match their steps to each other, even their turns. They're like a school of fish! Synchronizing movements like that is really hard to do. Ask pairs figure skaters. It only happens naturally like that when there's a deep, interwoven connection between two people. P.S. A big thank you to all of you who shared the scoop about your personal RM viewing history and how you got into Kookmin. Edited May 14, 2019 by kirbee b trying and failing to embed youtube video. how do you that? how did i do it before? :P 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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