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[Current Mainland Chinese Drama 2018] The Story of Ming Lan 庶女明兰传 / 知否?知否?应是绿肥红瘦

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1 hour ago, mooose said:

I'm worried about that shu daughter from Kang. A very good actress and seems to know just which buttons to push to get what she wants. She seems very calculating. She can wound herself but not deep enough to be fatal. Her backdrop story is adequately pitiful, being threatened with her mother etc. Claims she doesn't want to be a concubine so as not to be seen as a threat. Its just a tad convinient. 

 

ML is way to empathetic. Its her big weakness. Shades of SH's blind empathy to Lin. I'm worried ML may have let a snake in the house. Maybe I'm just paranoid?

She looks like she could also be the one that was trying to get to ML and baby in that one preview where it shows a woman coming after ML when she had just given birth.

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6 minutes ago, shem1 said:

She looks like she could also be the one that was trying to get to ML and baby in that one preview where it shows a woman coming after ML when she had just given birth.

That's auntie kang who try kill ml. 

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Damn that Concubine of the Emporer's is really trying to make him distrust GTY and wife. What's her problem. 

 

She's on the ED side??? How does that help her, she's married to the Emporer? 

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2 hours ago, mooose said:

I'm worried about that shu daughter from Kang. A very good actress and seems to know just which buttons to push to get what she wants. She seems very calculating. She can wound herself but not deep enough to be fatal. Her backdrop story is adequately pitiful, being threatened with her mother etc. Claims she doesn't want to be a concubine so as not to be seen as a threat. Its just a tad convinient. 

 

ML is way to empathetic. Its her big weakness. Shades of SH's blind empathy to Lin. I'm worried ML may have let a snake in the house. Maybe I'm just paranoid?

This reminds me of the cunning ML who set up Linniang and Molan to avenge her mother without anyone knowing except for granny. ML goes into action mode when someone she cares about is threatened or in danger. Remember how she won back the pin for Yan Ran her bestfriend at the polo match and how she lit up on Manniang when she went to the Yu residence to destroy the marriage proposal of TY to Yanran which was her purpose to save Yanran from TY? When she was 8 years old, she saved the dowry of her eldest sister when she just took those arrows to beat the young TY in a tuoho game and how she ran arround, climbed the gate out of the manor to get her mother a doctor, how she fought off the pirates to get Xiaotao time to dive into the water and was the last one to get off the boat, how she calculated to save her cousin from an abusive marriage? How she had protected her husband from himself and his family? How she lit up on Molan and her father not to have Linniang's memorial tablet in the same place as her mothers? This is her baby we are talking about. ML is not about to just get her child and her family be harmed by some devious shu daughter. She will face an army of witches and make sure her baby will be safe and they will never know what hit them just like Molan and her mother never knew. If that Kang shu daughter has ugly plans for ML, I thnk she will end up being sorry she ever stepped into the Gu manor. I too am worried but am crossing my fingers  and have faith that ML will prevail. 

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7 hours ago, Nisda said:

Read all the comments to my earlier post 

 

William Feng cannot act, not only this drama but others too,,,, 

Ice fantasy for example,,, i guess he just a lucky guy being famous and always gets main role but comparing to other lead star he just so so. As GTY in ming lan, his emotion whether angry sad or happy always like B rating, nothing special to caption attention

 

I am a fan of chinese drama so i have seen many dramas 

 

 

 

Well sucks to be you that Feng Shao Feng is the MALE LEAD, best just wait for zyl fan s to make episode cuts of him in the drama.

 

cant act my richard simmons, most of the commenters here dont have any problem with his acting in general, only you. 

 

You’re not the only fan of c drama here, you talk like being a c drama fan made you an expert to judge his acting. He studied at theater major, work his way through the acting world by working from small roles. Get of your high horse, you talk like zyl is tony leung or something. 

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2 hours ago, mooose said:

I'm worried about that shu daughter from Kang. A very good actress and seems to know just which buttons to push to get what she wants. She seems very calculating. She can wound herself but not deep enough to be fatal. Her backdrop story is adequately pitiful, being threatened with her mother etc. Claims she doesn't want to be a concubine so as not to be seen as a threat. Its just a tad convinient. 

 

ML is way to empathetic. Its her big weakness. Shades of SH's blind empathy to Lin. I'm worried ML may have let a snake in the house. Maybe I'm just paranoid?

I saw the smile on her face when she first met ML, and I can't say I'm comfortable with her too. 

But it's a tad bit too early to tell if that smile was of relief, or devious....

I'm hoping it's the former. 

I felt ML sees part of herself in her...mistreated. 

While ML is cunning and devious to those who wronged her, she's kind, fair and just otherwise..

Just the way she treated Rong'er and Xian'er shows that much...that she doesn't treat someone well because she can benefit from them. 

 

Having said that, ML has shown that she's an excellent judge of character. She seemed intelligent enough to not trust her fully I would think...

If she can be threatened to commit suicide, she could also be threatened to harm her...

 

I just hope that woman isn't just another one of the numerous people who wants her dead...

She really could do with a few more allies....Esp when she's now pregnant and her protector GTY is away....

Could just be my wishful thinking...but we can always hope right? :rolleyes:

 

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17 minutes ago, m0us3y said:

I saw the smile on her face when she first met ML, and I can't say I'm comfortable with her too. 

But it's a tad bit too early to tell if that smile was of relief, or devious....

I'm hoping it's the former. 

I felt ML sees part of herself in her...mistreated. 

While ML is cunning and devious to those who wronged her, she's kind, fair and just otherwise..

Just the way she treated Rong'er and Xian'er shows that much...that she doesn't treat someone well because she can benefit from them. 

 

Having said that, ML has shown that she's an excellent judge of character. She seemed intelligent enough to not trust her fully I would think...

If she can be threatened to commit suicide, she could also be threatened to harm her...

 

I just hope that woman isn't just another one of the numerous people who wants her dead...

She really could do with a few more allies....Esp when she's now pregnant and her protector GTY is away....

Could just be my wishful thinking...but we can always hope right? :rolleyes:

 

Grandma on ml's side, judging the characters of her .. I guess there should be no problem 

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6 hours ago, sava2sava said:

 

I do forsee the fires scene happening here.. Big Mdm knows all her hard work is in vain if she can;t stop ML from giving birth and killing GTY. 

 

 

So that wicked stepmother of GTY is planning to kill both Ming Lan's baby and her own stepson, GTY?

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8 minutes ago, dancingbee said:

 

So that wicked stepmother of GTY is planning to kill both Ming Lan's baby and her own stepson, GTY?

She's been wanting to get rid of GTY for a long time. That's why she sent Manniang inside the manor too. GTY said, with him dead, then stepmom would argue that Chang'er (at that time he thought Chang'er is still alive) is too young, so the marquis title will go to the third son (her real son). 

 

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4 hours ago, dito said:

 

This is before the poisoning. When Grandma went back after visiting ML she scolded and punished Daniang and then forbade her to meet her sister. She even went so far as to say if Daniang doesn't comply she will be sent back to her fathers house. 

Daniang's anger at this humiliation resulted in the poisoning. The reason Kang aunt's husband is so angry is that SH advised by granny informed the kangs that Sheng family will no longer be supporting/helping the kang family. Sheng's had grown in power coz of CB and SH's positions. Kang family were always trying to sort out /cover up incidents caused due to Kang aunty's nastiness. Because of this they had to ask a lot of favors from a long list of people....which then hindered their family's success.

Even her maiden family, Wangs have been trying to cover up Kang Aunts deeds all this time. Why do you think no one knows of all the dead women in the Kang household. In the book ML only found out coz she sent someone to investigate. Only then she confronted the aunt.

 

 

Does anyone happen to know the reason why that Kang Aunt is so hateful of Ming Lang and puts so much effort into trying to harm her? 
What can she possibly benefit from getting Ming Lang to lose her baby or making that girl from her household GTY's concubine?

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22 minutes ago, dancingbee said:

 

Does anyone happen to know the reason why that Kang Aunt is so hateful of Ming Lang and puts so much effort into trying to harm her? 
What can she possibly benefit from getting Ming Lang to lose her baby or making that girl from her household GTY's concubine?

 

She just hate concubine born daughters. Her husband is a womanizer and has 9-10 concubines...Aunty Kang also has been snubbed by Granny....so she hates her too.

For more see inside the spoiler @linhlinh111 shared her whole psycho history.

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Aunti Kang short biography:

 

Back then when Aunti Kang and Wang Daniang were still single. For various reasons, Daniang was brought up by their grandparents while Aunti Kang grew up with their mother. Therefore, she was like their mother's precious daughter while Daniang and mother weren't very close. Aunti Kang grew up pampered by their mother and brothers to be a spoilt child. She believed she should have the best things in the world, everyone should revolve around her and she secretly looked down on her sister, considering her sister stupid and lowly. Then there were two men came to propose marriage to Wang family. Aunti Kang was the favoured one so she was allowed to choose first. Of course she chose the high status son of a Marquis, and Daniang was married off to Sheng Hong, who was just a low-level official at the time. 

 

Aunti Kang was very proud of her status and marriage. However, as time went by, the Marquis proved himself to be an extreme playboy. While being an useless man in his career, having no real influence in the government, he was very good at sweeping up girls and producing babies. Marquis Kang didn't care nor respect her at all. Aunti Kang had to deal with her husband's many shu children, using her own dowry to support them when they got married. She despised his concubines and shu children, treating them badly, coming up with any scheme necessary to get rid of them. Marquis Kang was also a despicable selfish man. He didn't care one bit about his women or children and pretty much just let Aunti Kang got her way. She married off most of the shu daughters to be concubines of old powerful men, sometimes in exchange for certain benefits, sometimes just to ruin them. Aunti Kang has become quite a sadistic distorted person who is jealous with anyone else's happiness. She especially hates low status people, concubines and shu children. She advises and supports her lady friends to use underhanded methods against the concubines. She holds petty grudges and will try to harm anyone who dares to oppose her (or not give a damn about her, she considers it a form of disrespect, she's a VIP).

 

Back to Daniang. When they were just married, Sheng Hong actually treated her well, respected her. She had quite a happy marriage. Aunti Kang was furious. She was jealous and she thought Daniang was not supposed to be better than her in any way. So she started whispering into Daniang's ears, encouraging her to interfere into SH's career. Daniang, proven to be a stupid and easy to be manipulated woman, lost SH's favor, that's when Concubine Lin came into the picture. She then encouraged Daniang to fight off CL, however, CL was also a cunning woman. Result: Daniang completely lost SH's trust and fell in power. Til then Daniang still didn't realize she should stay away from Aunti Kang. How stupid is this Daniang anyway?

 

Aunti Kang, although having no blood connection with Sheng family, considered herself an elder of the family and wanted everyone to respect and obey her. When Grandma told Daniang to stay away from her, she took that as an offense and kept score. She despised all shu children, especially ML, who was raised by Grandma. However, ML was married off to a Marquis-to-be general, who was a better catch than any of her own daughters could have. She was filled with rage and jealousy. She couldn't accept the fact that someone so lowly as ML will now have the same rank as her. From her POV, ML should know her place and bow down to her instead of standing so high and mighty. She hates ML and will jump at any opportunity to harm her.

 

And that's all the reasons behind Aunti Kang's actions. There's no logic at all in this crazy woman. She is just a malicious self-centered maniac whose only joy is to watch people suffer.

 

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7 hours ago, leeza77 said:

Well at least Mr Kang is a real man and whack his wife!  Served her right :joy:

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4 hours ago, shihuangdi said:

OMG Chang Momo just said everything I want to say about Kang auntie. She is not even Sheng, she is Sheng inlaw. And when she dared to boss around the Gu manor :lol: Momo was like this is the Gu manor, not Kang manor. Everything here belongs to the Gu :glasses: I’m glad at least she is back to protect ML during her pregnancy. 

Oh ya, I was like wow, here's GTY and ML champion.  She is senior enough to be able to pull this through and being GTY nursemaid has given her the "power" that others like Cuiwei, Danju and Xiaotao don't.  I like the way she yelled and cursed for everyone to hear.  She is my hero here.......:joy:.  She is also one of my fav character apart from grandma.  

 

I love the relationship between grandma and ML.  The way ML teased her saying that "oh grandma you have grown thinner!!!! No doubt from missing me too much".  That part just melts my heart.  :heart:

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22 minutes ago, frenchfan said:

Well at least Mr Kang is a real man and whack his wife!  Served her right :joy:

I hope she will be flogged to death like Linniang. Now I hope she makes grave mistake that brings so much shame to the Kang family so she will be punished severely :angry:

 

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5 hours ago, mooose said:

ML is way to empathetic. Its her big weakness. Shades of SH's blind empathy to Lin. I'm worried ML may have let a snake in the house. Maybe I'm just paranoid?

@mooose I think she did let her in the house.. Step Mom seemed all to happy about this outcome.

 

3 hours ago, shem1 said:

She looks like she could also be the one that was trying to get to ML and baby in that one preview where it shows a woman coming after ML when she had just given birth.

@shem1  Explain this to me, Someone went after her after birth, It could be the girl that was talking to Big Mdm at the end of episode 58 they both of similar height and weight.. She was the girl telling Big Mdm when when second master return that he'll take care of them and not to take matters to heart.. 

 

My thought to this who dumb child is this and just what have Mdm been telling them.. Has she's been telling them her son is the master of that manor is all her servants just blantly blind in seeing just what really going on.. It seems she got them all brainwashed.. I think ML and GTY should use her own maids to spy on her.. It would be real easy since they are responsible for there salaries.. 

 

3 hours ago, lolalarue said:

Damn that Concubine of the Emporer's is really trying to make him distrust GTY and wife. What's her problem. 

 

She's on the ED side??? How does that help her, she's married to the Emporer? 

@lolalarue  I didn't understand why she drag ML in this picture with that half azz story.. Her or the ED not know the truth as to what went on back then.. ML isn't some officer of the court and really don't meddle in court affairs.. This is the ED fanning the fires every where she can.. Who may have told QH that she'll get his revenge for him for GTY stealing in girl.. QH is gulliable enough to fall for it knowing that GTY liked ML early own.. It must be killing him inside out to know that she's with child..

 

3 hours ago, zenya22 said:

This reminds me of the cunning ML who set up Linniang and Molan to avenge her mother without anyone knowing except for granny. ML goes into action mode when someone she cares about is threatened or in danger. Remember how she won back the pin for Yan Ran her bestfriend at the polo match and how she lit up on Manniang when she went to the Yu residence to destroy the marriage proposal of TY to Yanran which was her purpose to save Yanran from TY? When she was 8 years old, she saved the dowry of her eldest sister when she just took those arrows to beat the young TY in a tuoho game and how she ran arround, climbed the gate out of the manor to get her mother a doctor, how she fought off the pirates to get Xiaotao time to dive into the water and was the last one to get off the boat, how she calculated to save her cousin from an abusive marriage? How she had protected her husband from himself and his family? How she lit up on Molan and her father not to have Linniang's memorial tablet in the same place as her mothers? This is her baby we are talking about. ML is not about to just get her child and her family be harmed by some devious shu daughter. She will face an army of witches and make sure her baby will be safe and they will never know what hit them just like Molan and her mother never knew. If that Kang shu daughter has ugly plans for ML, I thnk she will end up being sorry she ever stepped into the Gu manor. I too am worried but am crossing my fingers  and have faith that ML will prevail. 

@zenya22  I think the answer to all of this, ML should bring GTY G/Aunt back there..It was Big Mdm that so kindly called her to bring in a concubine reasoning being that ML hasn't gotten pregnant,, Now ML is pregnant whats the purpose of bringing in another concubine when the marquis isn't there nor have he touch the concubine of G/Aunt.. She's and Elder of higher status then Big Mdm..I'm sure ML has GTY last will in her possession which she should give to G/Aunt to read since GTY already had broke it down for her already which she seem to calculate some of Big Mdms actions.. 

 

1 hour ago, dancingbee said:

 

So that wicked stepmother of GTY is planning to kill both Ming Lan's baby and her own stepson, GTY?

@dancingbee  IN order for the step mom to have everything in her control ML GTY and the baby has to die in order for her son to inherit the marquis title.. Even if GTy die fighting a war.. If ML gives birth to a male child all that GTY own including the marquis title would go to his son and Big Mdm son won't get the title.. Big Mdm knows ML will not give up the title and she'll be fighting to kill of them both in order to get it..  

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Boy ML gave Big Mdm a look she can't ever forget.. When Aunt Kang told Big Mdm she needs to intervene in her household ML look at Big Mdm like Bish try it I'm waiting..  What Aunt Kang don;t seem to realize is that Big Mdm lives at the Gu house Cheng Gardens isn't the Gu house nor her or Big Mdm has the rights to come there and do as they pleased.. Big Mdm already know that from judging from her spies that went in 10 spies went in and all 10 left in a few days time all thrown out all at once..  Now Big Mdm hooking up with Aunt Kang would show the world just how evil she is which she's ready to accept her mask coming off becaue at this point she's going all in what do she has to loose considering all her hard work is in vain.. She still hasn't thought about her dumb son in all her evilness.. 

 

I would love it when GTY comes back and he decides to brake up those houses because she hook up with Aunt Kang to see what the 4th and 5th house do to her.. I bet they would spill the beans own her schemes so quick it would make one heads spin..    

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11 hours ago, greenwatch08 said:

That's why he needs stop putting himself in these situation & talk to her directly. Something he really has to work on.

 

Shitou & XT are indeed very cute together. 

 

I have not seen the latest two episodes yet, so I'm trying not to see the bottom part of your response. Its spoilers for these eyes.:crazy:

Shitou was missing all the good food :D  He was bemoaning that madame is no longer asking the kitchen for the delicious fish soup and cakes instead she is liking something that she has never liked before.  He and Xiaotao was so cute together....acting bashful.  They are excellent match since both love to eat.  I remembered seeing the earlier episode when Hualan got engaged.  ML and Xaiotao went into the room and ML took something to eat from a plate and she gave one to Xiaotao.  ML is really kind and generous.

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18 minutes ago, leeza77 said:

Yeahhhh.. Auntie Kang get what she deserved. 

http://p.weibo.com/show/channerWbH5/1034:4335361447400077

I am loving her sorry state.  I hope she will be severely punished and people know of her wicked deeds, get divorced from her husband and lose all respect from her peers.  To be humiliated beyond repair would ruin her more. That will hurt her more than just getting a few spanks.  That ending would have been too easy.  

 

Poor ML.  So heavily pregnant and still have to deal with those crooks left and right.  I love the way she wielded the sword.  I also love the way she took it out of her dad's hands so that his stading in the court will not be affected.  Auntie Kang has been acting outrageously.  She was lucky that her sister helped her financially but then again it became a given geste.  Like as if she is entitled because she is family.  SH's wife is indeed not very bright and easily manipulated.  I actually sympathized with her as she was not malicious.  She can be mean and at times petty protecting the interest of her own kids but she is not like totally evil.   Not little Linniang or her sister.   

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@leeza77  Danning told on her own self all that sqimming she was doing in that chair.. She didn't even look upset after learning Aunt Kang gave her poision.. More like she was scared to tell where she got it from.. She should be thanking ML because she knows this wasn;t her plan to harm Granny.. Danning and those servants are seeing first hand of Granny results in raising ML.. All of them never knew she had this side to her the servant even had the gall to talk smart and got her face slap into next week.. One can all guess the others start talking and not holding anything back..

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Now who was the other old lady ? ws aunt kang trying to frame her.. Also who was the women next to aunt kang husband.. I hope thwy don't let her walk out of that house without being punished because she'll try and kill ML after being served by a concubine daughter

 

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