Park Bo Gum ❤ Girl's Day Hyeri aka REPLY 1988 TAEK x DEOKSUN

[st4rdust]

@mangachickava i like your analysis.... ☺ taking note how surprised the others were that Taekie know who is lee moon sae...  It's becos he knew it's DS's favourite singer right lol ( the claim that the hubby knows everything about DS)...  

Also see how intently he studies that monopoly game so he will win... I think he will approach DS the same way lol he won't see any issues about reading her diary to know what she was thinking hahaha 

[hafunohane]

Speaking of the beach scene and LMS.. i was re-watching the old episodes and i noticed that when DS and TK are with the others, TK would sometimes turn to look at DS when he answers something correctly/looks for confirmation. so cute. i've set up the clips below to start at that exact scenes i'm talking about. i'll edit this post if i stumble upon something like this again in other episodes as well.. 

EP 8- when he was asked if he knows how to go to the theatre. he said "dan sung sa, machi?" and at the "machi" part he turned his gaze to DS directly.

 

and another one, in EP 10- Car scene. "Of course. Lee Moon Sae.. machi?" and again at that part he turned his face to DS. 

edited to add: @st4rdust i noticed that during the monopoly game, the camera zooms down to the board and we can see TK's cards laid down on the floor and color coded (along with his thick stack of money hahahah $$$) ... and not surprisingly, his largest collection is made up of the YELLOW cards. and the cards next to them are green lol i can't.

[Guest ngocdpb]

Playlist playlist!!!

Ep5:

-The only TaekSun scene in this ep is the scene broken leg SW coming to borrow DS's dictionary, followed by the "jealous" eyesights of TK and JH. LOL.

Byeon Jin-seop: Dear My Lady (1989) // Lyrics by Park Joo-yeon & Music by Ha Kwang-hoon // This song was featured on Byeon Jin-seop's 2nd album, released in 1989. This video consists of the scenes from a 2003 South Korean drama, "여름향기" ("Summer Scent"), starring Son Ye-jin, Song Seung-heon, Ryun Jin, and Han Ji-hye.

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekRtb6imNK8

Ep6:

- Hug scene   Park Boram - Hyehwa-dong

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FW0HwcY2o8

- First snow phone call scene: 첫눈이 온다구요 The First Snow Is Coming - 이정석 Lee Jeong Seok

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADHIFTFESQY

Should I do something more? Anyone take ep 7-8 or 9-10? Poor our TaekSun team, there are only few scenes of TK-DS in the 1st 6eps anw. 

I'm going to do ep 9-10. Ahh..Guys, if it's not enough or wrong, correct me, pls. ^^

 

EDIT: Anyone, please tell me how to embed youtube vid! I can't, I just only can paste the link. Isn't it automatique? 

[mangachickava]

@ngocdpb

I did  9 and 10!!!!

[minibunny]

I am sorry if this post may sound offensive and hurt some people.. 

Spoiler

I just don't get it when some people said that TK doesn't like DS as a woman.. Jeez.. Haven't you watch recents episodes? He treats her so precious and care for her so much.. He makes her happy.. Can't you see how the way she looks at him? Every time she sees him, she give him the biggest smile she has.. No matter how tired he was, he never forget his promise to her and he concern about her..

He even has a courage to said out loud that he likes her, he even brave enough to compliment her, tell her how pretty she is.. but, no matter how competitive he is and no matter how much he wants to tell her, he prefer to back down so he doesn't jeopardize JH-TK friendship and despite he hasn't confessed yet, his act of surrender already makes DS sad (DS who said that she has to study and annoy when TK fall asleep watching movie during the first date but feels so disappointed and sad because TK cancel their date)..

and I don't agree when people said that R88  has the weakest loveline and has a slow pace of loveline, TK-DS have very subtle and strong relationship, they have many moments and grow as characters together.. That's a great loveline..yes I refer to the loveline TK-DS not JH-DS..

Since I still doubt that JH-DS is the main OTP.. No matter how many times I watched R88, their bond is not as strong as SunTaek..and they don't have the climax scene together (SunTaek has beach scene, china scene, children flashback scene with TK is the main center).. So maybe when you think that the loveline is weak or slow progress, maybe because the focus is wrong.. Maybe JH-DS are not the main loveline..

To be honest and I already said this multiple of times in my post, I don't care if TK is not the husband, I already satisfied because we have countless meaningful and beautiful SunTaek scene.. So if the writer want to change their plot and make JH is the main lead again, fine by me.. I already cry together with Taek during the last episode.. 

 

[Meliere]

@ngocdpb @mangachickava

YOU GUYS ARE BOTH AMAZING!!! lol, sorry I still haven't done ep. 3-4; work is driving me nuts. 

Since episode 11 doesn't have that many DS-TK moments, how about one of you take ep. 11-14, and the other ep. 15-16 (which are filled with DS-TK goodness)?

[Meliere]

Also, before I go back to work, these goodies from the main thread are too good not to share:

A DC netizen made a sexy Taek compilation: http://gall.dcinside.com/board/view/?id=reply1988&no=407747&page=1&exception_mode=recommend

And @13infamyss wrote this intelligent, sharp-eyed analysis of episode structure and narrative flow. I'm fangirling / admiring her words so much. .. You guys know the drill-- please go over to the main thread and like her post to show our appreciation (if you haven't read / seen it yet).

 

Spoiler

 

I don't know whether this was intentional or not, but I looked back on the previous episodes and counted how long Duk Seon's span of attention was for Sun Woo and Jung Hwan. I wanted to figure out where, when, and how we started to comment on the slow pace of the main love line. It was hard for me to share my thoughts during the last few weeks as I was confused on what to say and how to react on the past few episodes thrown at me. I needed to watch certain scenes over and over again to come to a realization that maybe I was underestimating the power and effect of this drama on me. 

Duk Seon's started treating Sun Woo differently in Episode 3 and her sweet treatment to him ended by Episode 6 (a total of 4 episodes). She started treating Jung Hwan differently by Episode 11 and ended her sweet treatment by Episode 14 (a total of 4 episodes again). By Episode 15, I've come to a conclusion she is over acting cute for Jung Hwan. She is not shoving herself to him - moreover, she doesn't even bat an eyelash at Jung Hwan anymore (the scene at the bus stop with her menacing look she gave not only to Sun Woo but Jung Hwan was note worthy - Ep 15). During the scene where Taek found out about Jung Hwan's feelings, I was on the edge of my seat thinking he might not only figure out about Jung Hwan's feelings, but also how his feelings were being reciprocated by Duk Seon. I've been on the edge waiting for the moment that she gives a glance at Jung Hwan and shares a secret smile with him (Just like how she kept stealing glances at Jung Hwan when she was making animated faces with his father - Ep 12). But Duk Seon never did once glance his way and I noticed how she was back being herself and having fun with her best friends (I believe this is when she is at her prettiest - when she is trying not too hard to get someone's attention and being just herself - like what No Eul said in Ep 12). Given how there's only four more episodes left, I think the rest of the episodes would focus on Duk Seon's another shift on the person of her new interest. 

I've said this before, after the fallout of her feelings for Sun Woo - that the next time she takes an interest in someone, I hope she will be the one to discover it without anyone telling her that another guy likes her. I was so disappointed that her friends had once again whispered into her ear and acted upon by what they had told her to do. I was even more disappointed that she gave Jung Hwan a birthday present that she did not pick out herself. Jung Bong noted that Jung Hwan never liked that kind of colour (which was a big contrast in Episode 9 where Duk Seon pulled out a couple of clothes for Taek to bring to China and she raised them to her eye level testing which combination would look good on him). It only proved this gut feeling I've had for a while now that maybe there was a reason why I am not really seeing progress between Jung Hwan and Duk Seon. I mean they grow each episode as individuals, but together - I haven't really seen anything that will convince that they were meant to be together. Which was a complete opposite of Taek and Duk Seon. Each episode they not only grow individually, but there's something we discover and learn about them every time they are together. (Duk Seon doesn't like people see her cry, so the next time Taek caught her crying he let it go and just asked if she were okay, Taek stopped taking meds after Duk Seon suggested it, Duk Seon knows now how to knock on his door before entering... and the list goes on and I wish I could list the times Duk Seon and Jung Hwan were like this together as well - y'know just constant mutual show of caring for each other - not hidden/unknown/secretively/one sided) 

I wish Dong Ryong had given his advise long before, so she wouldn't have been in so much pain and in constant look for that someone to love her. Episode 15 was all about Duk Seon's personal growth in my opinion. She wanted to get into university, but she wasn't really putting everything in to get that goal. She said she would study but she was doing it halfheartedly. She'd lose her attention and would do other things (get herself busy instead with whatever was in her hair - Ep 12). But when the teacher said getting into university was impossible for her and that meant disappointing her mom, she gave studying another push, tried harder, and even asked her new friend to help her understand the class. On the other hand, her best girlfriend who totally did not give a crap about studying was busy playing games with this other girl. We never saw her participate in any of what her friend was doing and just continued studying. At that moment, I thought she was finally being serious in achieving that goal. I also think that this mirrors in how she's going to act the next time she falls in love (by the end of Ep 14 after listening to Dong Ryong's advice). She`ll take precautionary actions and start learning it from scratch without anyone telling her who likes her and what she should to do in certain situations. And this is why I think Taek backing up from confessing his feelings was brilliant and just in tune at the pace that Duk Seon is heading. Everyone one of us wants either of the boys to do something - anything, but if Taek confesses his feelings to Duk Seon, she's going be all confused again and we will be back to square one when she will lose her true self and shove herself in to someone, who she thinks, likes her. Ep 15 showed us a side of Duk Seon who's still trying hard to get into university even though she was told it was impossible. And it once again mirrored Duk Seon who's going to give love another chance in the near future. You guys mentioned that Duk Seon has a mind of her own and she will choose whoever she wants to be with for the rest of her life, so this is why I thought it was great that Taek opted out to say his true feelings and Jung Hwan hasn't said anything either (whatever their reasons be). We want Duk Seon to seriously love someone now genuinely with no bias from both camps. I want her to go to that someone who she will see as her other half - someone, who just by looking at him gives her comfort and happiness in however mundane and little things are for them. I want her to. Really. So bad. 

I think 4 episodes will be good enough to wrap things up and finally introduce us the husband, given the timeline they (the writer/PD) provided her to focus her interest on Sun Woo and Jung Hwan. Going over the scenes again from previous episodes made me realize maybe Duk Seon's romance isn't as slowpoke as it is. Each episode, in my opinion, has its own kind of growth for the main love line - whether it is only individual, couple, or both kind of growth. Now, it only depends on how each of us are going interpret these scenes being thrown at us.

 

--

@minibunny I really agree with your comment (which, btw, was so sensitively and thoughtfully written, that IMHO you don't need to hide it behind a spoiler tag ). "Slow" and "weak" loveline ... WELL DUH YES, if you're determinedly ONLY watching JH-DS scenes, and turning a blind eye at the amazing developments in TK & DS's individual characters as well as their relationship arc. Though I want to preserve the peace as much as anyone, I have to say it drives me nuts that JH-DS shippers are still discrediting TK's character in the main thread (the details of which I don't even care to repeat ... ugh). 

[mangachickava]

@hafunohane posted this article http://www.instiz.net/pt?no=3476316&page=2&srt=3&k=&srd=1  on the main thread and I KNEW THAT SCENE WAS IMPORTANT...CAN ANYONE TRAnslate from the article or provide subs from the scene ( I think Chinese is out?)

[hmong_lubpaj]

@13infamyss What an amazing post!!! I just wish the JH-DS shippers would be open-minded enough to see that. No matter where this ship takes me, I've enjoyed the sail. I truly believe Taek is in the running to be the husband. I just don't understand the amount of time spent showing the relationship between TK and DS if TK is not the husband in the end. 

[liteulkwin]

This drama is a form of art, and like art in all of its forms, its beauty is in the eye of the beholder. There is no "right" or "wrong" view. I mean, there's an intended view based on the creator, but no one is wrong for interpreting it in their own light. This goes for both Team TK and Team JH, and while I hate that the passion on both sides is so strong that it breaks the unity of the viewership, hey, this means that the characters are that good, right? All hail Reply 1988!

I was thinking this after I caught myself rewatching this scene over and over

Spoiler

 

and looked down at the comments to see what insights I could find only to see that the majority of he comments were viewers being happy to see JH smile again. This I agreed with, but I was kind of shocked all the same because in my mind Taek commanded this scene. My attention was all TK's. But my lens are different from other's. *shrugs* I probably only focused on TK during his confession scene to the gang even though it was through JH's POV. We're all a little blinded by our love, right? Hahaha

I say don't worry about the negative comments (easier said than done). We're about to move onto episode 17 of 20. We're all on the edge of our seats. We have no idea what twist is going to be thrown at us. We're antsy. We're feisty. We've cried. A lot. It's okay to be emotional. Like Taek, we're only human. LET'S HUG IT OUT.

Choi Taek will go down as one of my favorite characters in anything, ever. I refuse to let him not being Husband ruin that. It will not take away from my enjoyment of the show and the beauty of the discussions we've had on this thread.

I know this sounds like loser-bowing-out-talk, but seriously Taek is so brilliantly written. His worth is so beyond the love triangle. I don't say that in a way that's meant to defile the other characters but simply to compliment Taek as an individual. We've talked about him for 106 pages by now and our discussion knows no bounds. Taek's rooooooooom, I love you guys. I'm so glad I decided to create a Soompi account for this drama because it means so much more to me after reading all of these analyses.

 

On another note, IF TAEK IS THE GOD OF BADUK THEN I AM THE GOD OF LAZINESS PERSEVERANCE. It took me 16 episodes to finally have a look at the Viet subs. It takes me like three times as long to read Viet over English since I never officially learned to and because the sub team uses a dialect I'm not used to. BUT I HAD TO KNOW THE NEW TAEK DETAILS. So I only watched the Taek scenes hehe. THE SCENES ARE SO MUCH BETTER WHEN YOU UNDERSTAND THE DIALOGUE LOL. LESS THAN 24 HOURS UNTIL SUBS.

Anyway, midst the angst I encountered this moment that cracked me up. I don't know if you guys noticed, but Taek briefly looks sooooo offended in his own way here. I'm crying. Even his offended expression is kind.

I'm so sorry that I can't gif this gold. Someone please help a sista out me.

SW: Why do I always end up making the ramen?

TK: Next time I'll make it.

EVERYONE: No need!

TK: *wounded puppy ft. DR's greedy hand*

 

@gerimisore THAT WAS YOUR ARTWORK?! OMG I TOTALLY SAW THIS ON TUMBLR. YOU'RE AMAZING.

[castingbees]

Episode 1 WITH 720p Subs v2

Enjoy!

Many thanks to @blue_angel_1004

[nicola_nikka]

I have something I wondered about, and i have been going to past episodes but, in episode 5, around 23:47, the mom says 

follow by

what i find funny is that she repeats the same thing in the interview, something along where he would find a girl like her or catch like her. also talk about friend-zone by even the mom. which is funny cause its like duk seon been conditioned to never expect more from taek cause he only has eyes for baduk.

 

[liteulkwin]

59 minutes ago, mangachickava said:

@hafunohane posted this article http://www.instiz.net/pt?no=3476316&page=2&srt=3&k=&srd=1  on the main thread and I KNEW THAT SCENE WAS IMPORTANT...CAN ANYONE TRAnslate from the article or provide subs from the scene ( I think Chinese is out?)

 

I'm 98% sure this is the dialogue based on Viet subs. Viet inhabitants of Taek's Room threaders please correct me if I'm wrong ... or phrase it better lol.

 

Opponent: If you placed your piece here, you'd be afraid I couldn't lose, right?

Taek: Yes.

Opponent: How's the situation?

Taek: The black pieces have a bit of an advantage.

Opponent: And here I thought I had the advantage. [Haha]

 

Edit:

Please tell me when you figure out what the article is saying!

[mellinadear]

@liteulkwin meaning TK has the advantage in the game,yes? 

*sigh* i wanted to learn a little about baduk and asked my bf to explain. He started teaching me but I  had the same face that DS had when bora was teaching her math...the face of confusion. He gave up teaching me lol. The rules to the game is just too much. Kudos to those who play it. 

[liteulkwin]

@mellinadear Yep yep! We can see here:

that Taek is black. It's basically a brief scene where the opponent asks Taek to elaborate on his moves. The opponent thought that he was winning, but Taek admits that he's actually a couple of steps ahead of him. This follows right along with how people talk about Lee Chang Ho's playing style in that he makes the opponent think they're winning before he swoops in for the win.

Notice that Taek didn't say that HE had the advantage. He said that THE BLACK PIECES do. Our humble Baduk Master (':

[hafunohane]

27 minutes ago, liteulkwin said:

@mellinadear Yep yep! We can see here:

http://i66.tinypic.com/30t3mg2.png

that Taek is black. It's basically a brief scene where the opponent asks Taek to elaborate on his moves. The opponent thought that he was winning, but Taek admits that he's actually a couple of steps ahead of him. This follows right along with how people talk about Lee Chang Ho's playing style in that he makes the opponent think they're winning before he swoops in for the win.

Notice that Taek didn't say that HE had the advantage. He said that THE BLACK PIECES do. Our humble Baduk Master (':

@mellinadear so someone in the main thread translated about the article hehe thanks @tituyphing. the subs are exactly like what @liteulkwin said. but then the article talks about how in the last scene of episode 15 when both guys are looking at DS, TK is wearing white and JH is wearing Black clothes, meaning JH has the advantage. i'm scratching my head because TK was definitely not wearing white? i'm not gonna add two more colors to the rainbow color theory with 4 episodes left.. so i'll just dismiss it hehe. but i'd love to read what others think about that baduk convo scene.

this is her post that i pasted from the main thread: 

Spoiler

Opponent (white stone) : how's the situation? 

Taek (black stones) : I think black is a little bit in favorable state.

Opponent : I thought I was favorable haha

The last time taek looking at duksun, his clothes is White and Junghwan Is Black. And Taek was drinking his tea, just like before he started every Baduk match. 

Junghwan-Taek match starts.. 

---------

But i think  it's only applies for epi 15.  

 

here's the referenced article: http://www.instiz.net/pt?no=3476316&page=2&srt=3&k=&srd=1 

[mangachickava]

well knowing how ep 16 went...I dont think had to do with the last scene as much as it had to do with the opponent underestimating TK? 

[13infamyss]

2 hours ago, Meliere said:

And @13infamyss wrote this intelligent, sharp-eyed analysis of episode structure and narrative flow. I'm fangirling / admiring her words so much. .. 

 

Your mention to me brought me to this thread. And just want to say thank you and I'm humbled by your praise. It took me a whole lot of time to watch certain scenes over and over again to justify my thoughts and put it into words. But in all honesty, this drama has been hard to put into words the moment things got serious with the main love line. I've done quite a few "compare and contrast" scenes between Jung Hwan and Taek these past few weeks, and the more I gather evidence, the more I become aware how just different Duk Seon acts with these boys. Yes, the grand gestures were swoon-worthy at first few scenes (that's how usually relationship starts, you think the guy is great and you're just head over heels for him). But what about what happens in your everyday life - the mundane things you do to get the relationship going? (Because sooner or later, it's the ordinary things you do everyday with your other half that will make spending forever with him worth it). And that's exactly how I interpreted Duk Seon is with Taek - their conversations and actions most of the time fit what couples in a long term relationship usually do (they can freely ask each other if there was something wrong, Taek: What do you want me to bring back to you from Japan?, Duk Seon openly suggesting what Taek can do - that it's totally okay to eat medium rare food, to lessen his take of meds, that it's okay to say no to people sometimes). Y'know little things like this - I live for moments like this - this is the kind of everyday life we live in. Little things like this that connect us with our other halves. I, for a while now, have been searching for scenes like this that connect Duk Seon and Jung Hwan. Sadly, the more I look for something, the more I wonder why I haven’t seen a scene where I discovered something new about them just from their everyday conversation. Jung Hwan can’t even naturally asked why she was crying – what caused her to cry in Ep 15. While he was having seconds thoughts whether to ask her or not, Taek had already asked her – as if it was a very natural thing for him to do. He didn’t need to think twice whether he should ask her or not. Duk Seon’s mundane conversations with Jung Hwan were mostly about something or someone else (They bragged about parents during the go-stop-game, Jung Bong and Min Ok’s date). I wanted them to talk about something that will make me learn new about their character – I learned Duk Seon ordered more than she ate in Ep 7, so that’s that – but... that’s it? They were even with her friends when they talked about that. Also, I noted that Taek and Duk Seon can plan things on their own without asking the rest of the group to come with them. This is the second time they planned to see a movie together with just the two of them. Jung Hwan and Duk Seon went to see two concerts by themselves only because the others couldn’t make it. Well, Jung Hwan and Duk Seon did plan to see a movie together, but we didn’t see that scene – we were only shown their backs discussing it with Duk Seon’s girlfriends spying on them. I’m still weighing whether I should consider that significant or not. Like I don’t know, I just wanted to have more substance in the scenes they are together – but I’m not just seeing it. I wanted them to do things that will make me connect to their relationship (I am in a relationship so I wanted to say: “Omg yes we do that too! OMG I do that too!” everytime I watch them together. But I noticed I’ve been doing that with Taek and Duk Seon’s scenes lately: I ask my bf too if he’s ever gonna eat or what because he is workaholic too, I tell him to dress warmer too cuz he does wear light clothes in the winter – I guess it’s a guy thing?).

Anyways I’ve written an essay again ~_~ Sorry guys. I’m just... really emotionally invested in this drama that’s why I wanted to understand each and every scene for the main love line. I wanted to have some sort of connections with the characters I fall in love with. And I love Duk Seon, Jung Hwan, and Taek so much because they feel so real to me and I feel the need to analyze each and every move they make - they don’t make. And my heart breaks every time they somehow disappoint me with their actions. That maybe one guy is stepping back and another is stepping forward because it’s really meant to be. That maybe one guy is just meant to love Duk Seon in the background, while the other one’s love is being reciprocated by Duk Seon. Whoever that guy is, I look forward to see him in the next four episodes. Either Jung Hwan’s arc has really ended at Ep 14 and Taek’s arc begins at Ep 17, or Jung Hwan’s arc continues on with a new and fresh limelight at Ep 17, we’ll see.^^

I forgot to mention the 4-episode gap between Sun Woo and Jung Hwan’s arc (Episodes 7-10). In my opinion, that arc was meant for us to discover more about the serious contenders as Duk Seon’s husband. It was somehow a break for us to get to know them more, how they interact with Duk Seon, and I guess for Duk Seon as well (to switch to a new interest).

[liteulkwin]

26 minutes ago, hafunohane said:

so someone in the main thread translated about the article hehe thanks @tituyphing. the subs are exactly like what @liteulkwin said. but then the article talks about how in the last scene of episode 15 when both guys are looking at DS, TK is wearing white and JH is wearing Black clothes, meaning JH has the advantage. i'm scratching my head because TK was definitely not wearing white?? http://www.instiz.net/pt?no=3476316&page=2&srt=3&k=&srd=1 

 

.... Well that's unfortunately anticlimactic. Are we writing a new color theory? 

I interpreted the scene as evidence that Taek is an oh-so-strong player through my objective lens. The writers are channeling Lee Chang Ho so beautifully into Taek. All of the theories we've mentioned thus far about how Taek is an underdog and is laying down his pieces for the win can actually be supported by this scene. Such a small moment, so easily overlooked, but compellingly telling. But is it a real hint or red herring lolol.

[nearsea]

@13infamyss Wow I remember once drowsingly reading that post of yours over the main thread about how deok sun's behavior with taek comes off as wives take care of husbands...and their relationship do look that way...at times...I made a note about replying on that post,only to  forget it later on.But anyway this post that @Meliere enlightened us about lol is so good that I wanted to keep on reading...Really love the way you make the observation of 3-6,11-14..and how exactly 4 episodes are left to round up the love arc..with whoever it is.

Also I also agree with you in the sense that..as I have felt it too...JH-DS  relationship was never teased to the next level...we did not see how they complete each other or back up each other in time of need. ..which we witnessed  in case of DS and Taek. And that's why I,thinking that deok sun-JH would be the end game,had already frustratingly  made the assumption  that this year the love line  would be the weakest link..But maybe we can still dare to dream 'a little'... and experience some thing one of a kind. And in case we don't but taek is still a winner to me anyway =].He would maybe the first guy in drama land which I thought would be okay/live up to his dream even if he does not get the girl lol.