[Drama 2016] Moon Lovers ❤ Scarlet Heart Ryeo, 달의 연인-보보경심 려 \^0^/ Soompi Kdrama 2016 Winner

[cojulie]

27 minutes ago, LyraYoo said:

Some info

Apparently Ep 16 hasn't leaked to korean since I don't see k-fans posted it or talking about it on dc gall.

 

 

Yeah a few Koreans posted on SBS page complaining about how international fans already got to see 16 but they haven't and it wasn't fair but overwhelming majority are leaving normal comments as if nothing happened.

[luci13]

5 minutes ago, lupita311 said:

To those wondering why the page number changed, I have place most of the spoilers about episode 16 under a spoiler tag so the page number changed, that is because it was asked for you to do it, don't discuss the episode till tomorrow and if you do better said do it and put it under a spoiler tag, there are some of the members who don't have access to the episode, or who are waiting for it, I have done a lot of pages and even though it is on the heading people still posted pictures without the spoiler tag, please do it till tomorrow at least.

 

Guys, it's only one click away with the spoiler tag, so please help the mods by being cooperative

[chi13lou]

51 minutes ago, luci13 said:

Yeah @chi13lou that's why we need to help the mods not to share all the spoilery stuff here or if it's comments just put into spoiler tag

Simply because I'm afraid Soompi will have to face any breach of rules or contract or any arrangement or deals

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Though seriously, SBS. I think they had long ago given up to this drama now they could not even provide proper announcement with regard to baseball game thingy. Baseball game season is regular event thus they should've had anticipated the game schedule and not to put viewers on waiting mode only to cancel episode 16 airing 20 minutes before airing time. That was so unprofessional tbh. I feel bad for the casts and crew who had worked so hard for this drama to happen. Well, they should rest assured that this drama is so loved internationally hence they gain more than they would had gained from tv ratings

True. I mentioned before that it seems ML has been long abandoned by SBS because it seems like they couldn't care less about whether it airs or not. They knew beforehand about the possibility of the games going over the prescribed time so they should have had a Plan B which they discussed with their distributors. I find it careless that all they have done is announce that it the game does not end by this time, ML is cancelled. And yet, they have adamantly stated that last episode will be aired on Oct 31. Wonder how that will be possible considering that there is another baseball game on Monday.

[jetsu]

Why is everyone so angry here ... I'm kind of scared reading comments. 

Well SBS cancelled last night's episode but people still managed to watched the leak one ... why are ppl still mad.  If SBS aired last night's ep late, the rating most likely be affected especially the other moon drama is showing it's 2nd last ep. SBS decision is bad but kind of good. Ive accepted the fact and moved on .... and looking forward to ep 16 live tonight.  

Just my pov, so don't take it on me. Cheers.

[Yippeun_eonnie]

KINGLY AMBITION…AT THE EXPENSE OF LOVE

October 17, 2016

Spoiler

Tell me you’re not in love with that pair of eyes…The broadcast of the drama in China went on as scheduled so I’ll review according to the Chinese version. I don’t know how many more times I shall say that Lee Jun Ki is absolutely compelling as So. He owns So so unapologetically and is pure awesomeness in every scene. DAEBAK. Really. DAEBAK. Simply Wonderful. Sinfully Sexy.

Eun runs after Seon Deok, only to see her cut down. He is struck in the arm by Yo’s arrow and when the latter takes aim again, So rushes to protect Eun, putting himself between his third and 10th brother. As So attacks the guards, Yo takes the chance to shoot Eun in his chest. Jung arrives but is held back by the guards. Soo watches in horror as her vision unfolds before her.

Eun, sputtering in pain, grabs So and reminds him that Yo once said So was able to give Eun a gift only So could give. Eun is claiming that gift now because he cannot bear to let Seon Deok go the afterlife alone… and So’s eyes starts to glisten with tears as it dawns on him what Eun wants. The 10th Prince would rather die by the hand of So than Yo. GAHHHHH. I’m tearing now….GAH. Baek Hyun is actually really decent here – maybe he’s more suited to playing serious roles than silly.

So shakily releases Eun, furious and devastated at once. He roars in rage and slashes Eun. He bursts out in maniacal laughter, all the pain, rage, horror pouring out. He who doesn’t want to hurt his brothers, actually kills his brother because he loved him too much not to fulfil his last wish. It is macabre. So is openly crying now, while Jung and So just helplessly watch the heartbreaking scene taking place in front of them. Yo walks away, a little stunned that So actually did manage to kill Eun.

So sees Soo, collapsed on the ground, and walks away in dazed despair. He meets General Park along the way and the older man knows what happened at the sight of So’s bloody sword. So’s expression has turned to stone and he barely blinks as the general rushes off.

General Park cradles his daughter, with Soo and Jung watching over the dead couple in shocked grief. General Park growls that he wanted Seon Deok to marry either the cultured 13th Prince or 14th Prince who is a good fighter, but his daughter picked Eun because he was her first love. He asks whether Eun cherished Seon Deok and Soo replies that the couple loved each other deeply. Then seems to satisfy the general, who is at peace that Seon Deok died happy and found love with Eun.

Jung springs to his feet and grab his sword, trembling with rage, and states he is going to kill So. Soo clutches him urgently, saying that it was Eun who wanted So to kill him. It wasn’t So’s fault and right now, he is hurting the most. Jung seems to understand where Soo is coming from and throws away his sword with an agonised yell.

So walks to the main quarters of the palace and Ji Mong is there. He too knows what has transpired just by So’s bloody face and sword. So drawls cynically that he is going to become that dog who breaks free from his collar and bites his master. He wants to put a stop to all this fratricide and he knows the only way is for him to become king. So states with determination, “I am going to become the king of Goryeo.” Even so, tears of agony roll down his face.

Yo informs Wook of Eun’s and Seon Deok’s deaths and Wook barely holds in his grief, gripping his shaking hands tight as tears wobble in his eyes. Yo also share his kingly plans but Wook is barely listening though he forces out a word of congratulations.

So is brooding at the observatory tower when Baek Ah arrives. The younger brother relates that since Eun was considered a traitor, he was not allowed burial or funeral clothes. He was not allowed to be buried at the royal tombs but his body was flung in the woods outside the city, for the ravens to feed.

But Baek Ah and Jung managed to stealthily take Eun’s body away and buried him in a remote place. They could not remove the arrows from Eun’s body so Jung broke off the parts that stuck out. So muses sadly that Eun still remembered that So owed him a gift only he could him – So himself had forgotten all about it. Baek Ah comforts So that Eun was probably grateful for what So did. JI Mong comes up to the brothers and reveals the letter that Soo wrote to inform So that Eun was hiding in Damiwon.

So, Baek Ah and Ji Mong goes to see General Park, who greets So respectfully. I guess he is reasonable and rational enough to know that So handed Eun a mercy killing. He says he heard that So wants to become king. Baek Ah shoots So a bewildered glance as General Park remarks that So has the star of a king, and his father, the late king, believed it too. This is why he ordered General Park to train So.

So scoffs that he doesn’t believe in such nonsense but he still wants to be king. If being on seat is causing all this bloodshed, he wants to take the throne to stop all these senseless killings. So isn’t going to give up on his new ambition and only his death will stop him.

So inquires who is with him? Everyone looks at Baek Ah first. Baek Ah answers with a smile that he was born as So’s younger brother and it is his fate – he’s with So. AWWWWWWWWWWWW. BROMANCE!!!! So-Baek Couple! My OTP of this drama!!!

Ji Mong solemnly utters that he will take responsibility for this word and deed, so obviously he is on on board, too. Only General Park is left. He reminds So of what his late father once said: A king is one who is willing to sacrifice anything and everything for the nation and the royal family. So replies that he remembers what his father said.

General Park grins coldly and wonders out loud who So will sacrifice for his quest for the throne? So’s jaw tightens as he is aware of who exactly General Park is referring to. General Park muses he wants to see who So sacrifices first before he makes his decision on whether to support him. His support is important as he controls most of the royal army.

Cut to Soo who is at the fave hangout of she and So. She runs eagerly to So when he arrives but steps back warily when she sees the jaded coldness in his eyes. Soo quickly says that she understands how difficult the decision was for him to kill Eun.

But So ignores her sympathy and asks her why she didn’t tell him Eun was hiding in Damiwon. He figures she didn’t trust him and was worried So would kill Eun upon capture. Soo admits she was worried about that and at the same time, she didn’t want to hurt So’s feelings. That’s why she decided to write the letter in the end, but it turned out that her action only caused both of them more hurt. But she earnestly swears she did trust him even though it took her awhile. She also realised she loved him in the process.

Her fervent explanation doesn’t sway So and he refutes that he has changed. When he looks at her, he is reminded of the times when she didn’t trust him, and suspects that she would think he caused Eun’s death and how So killed him. To save her, he became the king’s dog but yet his heart didn’t change then. But now his heart has changed. So coolly suggest they break off.

He walks away and Soo cries out that she knows he is lying. He levels her with another fierce stare and reminds her that they don’t lie to each other, and stalks off. So numbly returns to the observatory tower and collapses against the rail as tears overcome him. He barely can draw a breath. Lee Jun Ki….daebak.

Yo rewards So richly for killing Eun while So lifelessly pledges his allegiance. General Park spits on So later, remarking that So has gained all the rewards by killing his daughter and son-in-law. Wook silently walks away from So. So just continues his march forward stonily.

Jung seeks Yo out and informs him that he won’t be returning to the palace for a long while. Yo agrees it is a good idea but reminds him out of consideration for their mom, Jung shouldn’t join the frontline troops. Jung refuses, saying he wants to test how many lives he has. Plus, he has to make up for Yo’s sins as much as he can. Jung holds out the arrows that had struck Eun and leaves them on the floor before walking out of the throne room. Yo stares at the arrows and starts to hallucinate Eun’s voice begging him to let he and Seon Deok go.

Baek Ah delivers bad news to Soo: Soo has left for Seo Kyung and won’t be back for a long time. She rushes to their favourite meeting place but he isn’t there. Time trickles by and we time jump to two years ahead. Chae Ryung rushes to find Soo to tell her someone important, someone who has been away for two years, is waiting for her.

Thinking it is So, Soo returns to Damiwon giddily but is disappointed to see Jung instead. He is now a general of the highest order and well, now sports messier hair and darker sideburns. HA. I’m amused at how they tried to age Ji Soo. Soo makes him tea and he remarks that he rushed back just to drink this. And he stopped by Eun’s grave on the way back. Sweet boy.

Jung wonders why she isn’t married since she can leave the palace if she is. Soo just smiles and says she’ll still have to serve someone even if she leaves the palace. All she wants to do is grow old and travel to faraway places in her later years. She has been saving money for that and boasts that she has amassed quite a fortune so far.
Jung also meets Baek Ah and Woo Hee, who is now the sang-gung of the gyobang. Jung isn’t pleased to see her, muttering that everything of Woo Hee is suspicious, including her shady past. When Jung leaves, Baek Ah asks where So is. Soo is stunned to hear that So has returned too and Baek Ah sheepishly admits he thought So had already visited Soo.

Yo is busy chanting away in his throne room, obviously mentally unsound. His mom comes to visit him and insists that he installs Jung richard simmons the crown prince. Yo wonders whether his mom treats him as son or a pig – someone she uses to ensure she has a hold on the throne. He lashes out and ask whether Jung is after the throne, she stares at him, askance. At this moment, So’s arrival is announced and he walks in. Yo blurts out that he should just make So the heir to his throne since they are blood brothers anyway and his mom calls him crazy before flouncing out in a huff. Yo snorts at says So sure has many uses. So ignores the insult as he watches Yo chant away.

So arrives at the throne room with tea and is disconcerted to see So already there, joined by Wook and Jung. Yo complains that a certain construction is taking up too many lives and grabs Soo’s wrist in anger. So drops to his knees and claims it is his fault. Back at her quarters, Soo practises writing the peom So had written for her previously.

So heads to THAT garden and of course, bumps into Soo. Won and Yo sees them from the pavilion and Won comments that So hasn’t gotten over Soo yet. Soo approaches So and he orders her not to – it is better they act as if they don’t know each other. Yo takes aim at Soo with his bow and arrow and So spots him just as he lets the arrow fly.
The arrow skims So’s arm as he jumps to cover Soo. Soo realises belatedly that So has just saved her from getting wounded. When she reaches out to touch him in worry, he shrugs her off, aware that Yo and Won are on their way.

Won comments the two still look friendly while So says he took the arrow since it wouldn’t be seemly for the king to be caught killing a palace lady. Yo just laughs it off, saying it was his mistake. So says it’s only a flesh wound but Soo has a good look at it and knows it is a lot worse than that. Won follows the king and So warns Won to be careful. So leaves Soo after his brothers leave.

Soo is back at her quarters, examining the arrow. She calls for Woo Hee and asks whether she can contact Baek Ah. When Woo Hee says she can, Soo asks her to pass a message to him: she wants to see So. Woo Hee reminds her it is dangerous to do so but Soo isn’t deterred.

Jung is in audience with the king, who acknowledges that his youngest brother has contributed to the stability and safety of the nation. He asks what Jung wants as a reward – he’ll grant him anything except the throne. Jung states there is something he wants very badly.

Cut to Jung charging into Damiwon, wanting to see Soo and insisting he has something very important to tell her. Chae Ryung lies that Soo is sick and when Jung thinks it is all the more reason to see her, the maid rattles off if Jung catches whatever ailment Soo has, the whole army might be affected, too. Jung is pacified by the explanation and reminds Chae Ryung that she must tell Soo that he wants to see her.

Soo is off to find So, who is outside the palace. Baek Ah has made sure everyone has been dismissed before Soo’s arrival. She arrives to find him feverish and delirious, with his wound infected. She treats his wound and So snaps out of his delirium enough to see Soo looking after him. He rests more peacefully after.

He wakes up sometime later to find Soo asleep near him. He reaches out to stroke her cheek when she wakes up. He asks her curtly why she is with him and she says she had something to ask him and enlisted Baek Ah’s help. So tells her to ask her question and leave.

Soo says So hasn’t forgotten her, has he? When he said he didn’t love her, he was lying, wasn’t he? So just reiterates that she has to return to the palace and Soo bursts out that she risked her life to sneak out of the palace just to ask him this question. There wasn’t a day in the last two years that she didn’t miss him and she keeps hoping they could go back to the where they were. So she is asking him again and this time, he shouldn’t lie. Does he still love her like last time?

So succumbs and kisses her deeply. She kisses him back. She tears, he wipes it off gently. He envelopes her in a tender hug and she hugs him back tightly. And well, the candle flickers off and yup, they sleep together. I wished they had made it a little more obvious ala Kim Tae Hee and Yoo Ah In in Jung Ok Jung? It was such an abrupt transition from the passionate kissing and sweet hugging, to Soo sleeping like the dead next to So. Wished they had shown them cuddling at least. Though I admit Lee Jun Ki was killer tender in this scene, which I’m sure caused many females to swoon. The last time I saw the candle flickering off to represent a bed scene taking place was some Chinese drama eons ago. Hahaha. I don’t think I’ve seen this “tactic” used in a current sageuk drama before.

They are kinda cute though that they actually play shadow puppets after that and feed each other. They gaze at stars outside, all lovey dovey… until Ji Mong turns up. Ha. So quickly puts Soo’s hand away and stands up.

Ji Mong informs them that Yo’s condition is worsening… and surprisingly, So doesn’t gloat. Rather, he says that though Yo acts as if he doesn’t give a damn outwardly, inside he has been affected by his involvement in the deaths of Moo and Eun. Ji Mong concurs. And he adds that the time is now. So looks conflicted, and even a little sad.
Later, Soo asks So whether he wants the throne. He replies without doubt that he wants it. She sighs that the throne was the reason why he left her? So answers candidly that the king would use her to control him, and will use him as a reason to pick on her.

And if Soo asks him to give up? So smiles and says he will convince her until she agrees to go along with him. Those words… when he said he didn’t have to be king and would be happy as long they were together…he isn’t going to say them now.

So says they promised not to lie to each other. He wants to stop all the needless bloodshed and while he was away, he realised one thing – once the person-in-charge changes, the world can change. He wants to put an end to all this evil – that’s why he must sit on the throne.

Lee Jun Ki. Again perfect. The wealth and depth of emotions he exhibited in this episode probably adds up to more than what all the princes and IU have tried to display in all 16 episodes so far. His eyes are just…. No words can describe my awe and swoon.

Anyway, I love how So is written, able to understand all his brothers despite the fronts they put up. I was touched by his observation of Yo and he willing to cut him some slack. I love how he didn’t gloat over Yo’s illness and how you can tell that the throne to him is really his last resort to end all this pain, evil and devastation.

He is the only prince who sincerely cares for his brothers to the point he would really rather not hurt or harm any of them. It’s ironical since he was the one who was sent away but then again, his lack of love and lack of interaction with them made him appreciate their presence more. When he couldn’t turn down Eun’s plea….my heart broke.

Oh, Jung. I can see why you are the best person for Soo even though she doesn’t love you. He would be the one who will be able to love her unconditionally without causing her heartache. She may not find love with him…but she would find peace and stability, unlike the other two princes she has loved and lost.

Anyway, Jung’s request to Yo as a reward is most probably Soo’s hand in marriage. That was what happened in the Chinese version. 14th Prince had a decree from the late emperor for the marriage between he and Ruo Xi but he kept it a secret when he found out that she was in love with 4th Prince. But he wielded it later in order for 4th Prince – who had then become the empreror – to release Ruo Xi from the palace.

I honestly find all these time jumps utterly useless since it doesn’t help to substantiate the plot much. I find Soo marginally palatable and well, when she railed that she risked her life to visit So outside the palace….I wanted to say… just how many times has So risked his life for her? I’m pretty disappointed with the way Soo is written: mostly weak, indecisive and her “future-ness” totally eroded. Her love for So feels flimsy and childish but I guess I mostly just ignore it since So’s love for her is so understated yet so deep that it overwhelms me as a viewer.

I don’t mind IU but I’m wondering whether a more experienced, slightly older actress should have been cast because Lee Jun Ki is acting circles, triangles, squares, pentagons around her. Someone like Han Hye Jin would have been awesome since she was all sorts of awesome as Soseono in Jumong. She may be a little old for Soo but she is around the same age as Lee Jun Ki and would have matched him perfectly in screen presence and acting chops, and lend weight and meat to the character. Plus she does strong-willed roles so well.

My fave scene was definitely the one when So had to kill Eun because he couldn’t bear to refuse Eun’s last wish. It was so devastating and Lee Jun Ki was sublime in this scene, his pain, rage and horror playing across his features, his eyes and every gesture.

The good part? The reunion of Soo and So because Lee Jun Ki was seriously to-die-for in the scene. The close-ups of him were great and lent an intimacy to the whole exchange. Actually, he is to-die-for in every darned scene.

https://breathlesssurvival.wordpress.com/2016/10/17/review-moon-lovers-bo-bo-kyung-shim-ryeo-episode-16/

[luci13]

Exactly @chi13lou Did they really think ratings will go up drastically starting from next week now the other drama ends this week? I don't think so. 

If they want to stick to the plan to air last episode on Oct 31, then they should give us two episodes this week regardless what happen with the baseball though. And as you said, there will be another baseball game on next Monday. If they pull in this kind of trick again, I'm speechless with SBS. I'm done with them and their silly way of promotions.

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I'm just getting all things running in my head out because SBS is ruining what might had been such a potential big hit drama Oh well, nothing we can do other than hoping SBS won't do this again next Monday.

[antoniaclamens]

what a roller coster day for us eclipses addicts!!! after all those gooddies we have the worst baseball game ever... then no SBS episode 16, then episode 17 preview, then leaked episode... i was at my office and i had to hide in the bathroom so no one can see me crying or angry (i hate you SBS) i was dying to watch leaked episode 16 and i was sure when i got home the links would be dead... torture

the i watched the episode chinese sub (first time ever! and of course i read no chinese) and then i found episode english subs YAYYYY but yay internet conection sucked and i spent more than 2 hours trying to watch an 1 hour episode

i wont spoil about episode 16... even if there are things i want to comment (i will wait for SBS version) but the episode was daebak and... heart breaking. i cryed tons.. plus LJG i'm in awe... when i thought you couldn't act better you give me episode 16!!! everything was perfect even if the ending with subs left me in a pool of worries (after the swettest scenes ever!!!)

i hope SBS will air 2 episodes tomorrow... cheabal!!!!!

[chi13lou]

24 minutes ago, lupita311 said:

To those wondering why the page number changed, I have place most of the spoilers about episode 16 under a spoiler tag so the page number changed, that is because it was asked for you to do it, don't discuss the episode till tomorrow and if you do better said do it and put it under a spoiler tag, there are some of the members who don't have access to the episode, or who are waiting for it, I have done a lot of pages and even though it is on the heading people still posted pictures without the spoiler tag, please do it till tomorrow at least.

I understand your frustration. It seems like some really do not care.

[minekas]

Not sure if it's a re-post,   Ji Soo & Nam Joo Hyuk at Celebrity Bromance

Cr to owner

[lupita311]

4 minutes ago, chi13lou said:

I understand your frustration. It seems like some really do not care.

No, it wasn't out of frustration, I know how it feels to be obsessed with a drama, just that I saw someone asking about it and I thought of making a mental note of the number on the page and went too far to remember what page it was or the name of the people who asked about it. So I posted a general one... Too sleepy right now, but still at work and doing soompi while stuff gets finished so my eyes are crossed and my mind doesn't want to remember anything anymore... Thanks for the support...

[pass3rby]

46 minutes ago, Yippeuni said:

 

October 17, 2016

 

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Tell me you’re not in love with that pair of eyes…The broadcast of the drama in China went on as scheduled so I’ll review according to the Chinese version. I don’t know how many more times I shall say that Lee Jun Ki is absolutely compelling as So. He owns So so unapologetically and is pure awesomeness in every scene. DAEBAK. Really. DAEBAK. Simply Wonderful. Sinfully Sexy.

Eun runs after Seon Deok, only to see her cut down. He is struck in the arm by Yo’s arrow and when the latter takes aim again, So rushes to protect Eun, putting himself between his third and 10th brother. As So attacks the guards, Yo takes the chance to shoot Eun in his chest. Jung arrives but is held back by the guards. Soo watches in horror as her vision unfolds before her.

 

Eun, sputtering in pain, grabs So and reminds him that Yo once said So was able to give Eun a gift only So could give. Eun is claiming that gift now because he cannot bear to let Seon Deok go the afterlife alone… and So’s eyes starts to glisten with tears as it dawns on him what Eun wants. The 10th Prince would rather die by the hand of So than Yo. GAHHHHH. I’m tearing now….GAH. Baek Hyun is actually really decent here – maybe he’s more suited to playing serious roles than silly.

 

 

So shakily releases Eun, furious and devastated at once. He roars in rage and slashes Eun. He bursts out in maniacal laughter, all the pain, rage, horror pouring out. He who doesn’t want to hurt his brothers, actually kills his brother because he loved him too much not to fulfil his last wish. It is macabre. So is openly crying now, while Jung and So just helplessly watch the heartbreaking scene taking place in front of them. Yo walks away, a little stunned that So actually did manage to kill Eun.

 

 

 

So sees Soo, collapsed on the ground, and walks away in dazed despair. He meets General Park along the way and the older man knows what happened at the sight of So’s bloody sword. So’s expression has turned to stone and he barely blinks as the general rushes off.

General Park cradles his daughter, with Soo and Jung watching over the dead couple in shocked grief. General Park growls that he wanted Seon Deok to marry either the cultured 13th Prince or 14th Prince who is a good fighter, but his daughter picked Eun because he was her first love. He asks whether Eun cherished Seon Deok and Soo replies that the couple loved each other deeply. Then seems to satisfy the general, who is at peace that Seon Deok died happy and found love with Eun.

Jung springs to his feet and grab his sword, trembling with rage, and states he is going to kill So. Soo clutches him urgently, saying that it was Eun who wanted So to kill him. It wasn’t So’s fault and right now, he is hurting the most. Jung seems to understand where Soo is coming from and throws away his sword with an agonised yell.

So walks to the main quarters of the palace and Ji Mong is there. He too knows what has transpired just by So’s bloody face and sword. So drawls cynically that he is going to become that dog who breaks free from his collar and bites his master. He wants to put a stop to all this fratricide and he knows the only way is for him to become king. So states with determination, “I am going to become the king of Goryeo.” Even so, tears of agony roll down his face.

 

Yo informs Wook of Eun’s and Seon Deok’s deaths and Wook barely holds in his grief, gripping his shaking hands tight as tears wobble in his eyes. Yo also share his kingly plans but Wook is barely listening though he forces out a word of congratulations.

So is brooding at the observatory tower when Baek Ah arrives. The younger brother relates that since Eun was considered a traitor, he was not allowed burial or funeral clothes. He was not allowed to be buried at the royal tombs but his body was flung in the woods outside the city, for the ravens to feed.

 

 

 

But Baek Ah and Jung managed to stealthily take Eun’s body away and buried him in a remote place. They could not remove the arrows from Eun’s body so Jung broke off the parts that stuck out. So muses sadly that Eun still remembered that So owed him a gift only he could him – So himself had forgotten all about it. Baek Ah comforts So that Eun was probably grateful for what So did. JI Mong comes up to the brothers and reveals the letter that Soo wrote to inform So that Eun was hiding in Damiwon.

So, Baek Ah and Ji Mong goes to see General Park, who greets So respectfully. I guess he is reasonable and rational enough to know that So handed Eun a mercy killing. He says he heard that So wants to become king. Baek Ah shoots So a bewildered glance as General Park remarks that So has the star of a king, and his father, the late king, believed it too. This is why he ordered General Park to train So.

So scoffs that he doesn’t believe in such nonsense but he still wants to be king. If being on seat is causing all this bloodshed, he wants to take the throne to stop all these senseless killings. So isn’t going to give up on his new ambition and only his death will stop him.

So inquires who is with him? Everyone looks at Baek Ah first. Baek Ah answers with a smile that he was born as So’s younger brother and it is his fate – he’s with So. AWWWWWWWWWWWW. BROMANCE!!!! So-Baek Couple! My OTP of this drama!!!

Ji Mong solemnly utters that he will take responsibility for this word and deed, so obviously he is on on board, too. Only General Park is left. He reminds So of what his late father once said: A king is one who is willing to sacrifice anything and everything for the nation and the royal family. So replies that he remembers what his father said.

General Park grins coldly and wonders out loud who So will sacrifice for his quest for the throne? So’s jaw tightens as he is aware of who exactly General Park is referring to. General Park muses he wants to see who So sacrifices first before he makes his decision on whether to support him. His support is important as he controls most of the royal army.

Cut to Soo who is at the fave hangout of she and So. She runs eagerly to So when he arrives but steps back warily when she sees the jaded coldness in his eyes. Soo quickly says that she understands how difficult the decision was for him to kill Eun.

 

But So ignores her sympathy and asks her why she didn’t tell him Eun was hiding in Damiwon. He figures she didn’t trust him and was worried So would kill Eun upon capture. Soo admits she was worried about that and at the same time, she didn’t want to hurt So’s feelings. That’s why she decided to write the letter in the end, but it turned out that her action only caused both of them more hurt. But she earnestly swears she did trust him even though it took her awhile. She also realised she loved him in the process.

Her fervent explanation doesn’t sway So and he refutes that he has changed. When he looks at her, he is reminded of the times when she didn’t trust him, and suspects that she would think he caused Eun’s death and how So killed him. To save her, he became the king’s dog but yet his heart didn’t change then. But now his heart has changed. So coolly suggest they break off.

He walks away and Soo cries out that she knows he is lying. He levels her with another fierce stare and reminds her that they don’t lie to each other, and stalks off. So numbly returns to the observatory tower and collapses against the rail as tears overcome him. He barely can draw a breath. Lee Jun Ki….daebak.

 

 

Yo rewards So richly for killing Eun while So lifelessly pledges his allegiance. General Park spits on So later, remarking that So has gained all the rewards by killing his daughter and son-in-law. Wook silently walks away from So. So just continues his march forward stonily.

Jung seeks Yo out and informs him that he won’t be returning to the palace for a long while. Yo agrees it is a good idea but reminds him out of consideration for their mom, Jung shouldn’t join the frontline troops. Jung refuses, saying he wants to test how many lives he has. Plus, he has to make up for Yo’s sins as much as he can. Jung holds out the arrows that had struck Eun and leaves them on the floor before walking out of the throne room. Yo stares at the arrows and starts to hallucinate Eun’s voice begging him to let he and Seon Deok go.

Baek Ah delivers bad news to Soo: Soo has left for Seo Kyung and won’t be back for a long time. She rushes to their favourite meeting place but he isn’t there. Time trickles by and we time jump to two years ahead. Chae Ryung rushes to find Soo to tell her someone important, someone who has been away for two years, is waiting for her.

Thinking it is So, Soo returns to Damiwon giddily but is disappointed to see Jung instead. He is now a general of the highest order and well, now sports messier hair and darker sideburns. HA. I’m amused at how they tried to age Ji Soo. Soo makes him tea and he remarks that he rushed back just to drink this. And he stopped by Eun’s grave on the way back. Sweet boy.

Jung wonders why she isn’t married since she can leave the palace if she is. Soo just smiles and says she’ll still have to serve someone even if she leaves the palace. All she wants to do is grow old and travel to faraway places in her later years. She has been saving money for that and boasts that she has amassed quite a fortune so far.
Jung also meets Baek Ah and Woo Hee, who is now the sang-gung of the gyobang. Jung isn’t pleased to see her, muttering that everything of Woo Hee is suspicious, including her shady past. When Jung leaves, Baek Ah asks where So is. Soo is stunned to hear that So has returned too and Baek Ah sheepishly admits he thought So had already visited Soo.

Yo is busy chanting away in his throne room, obviously mentally unsound. His mom comes to visit him and insists that he installs Jung richard simmons the crown prince. Yo wonders whether his mom treats him as son or a pig – someone she uses to ensure she has a hold on the throne. He lashes out and ask whether Jung is after the throne, she stares at him, askance. At this moment, So’s arrival is announced and he walks in. Yo blurts out that he should just make So the heir to his throne since they are blood brothers anyway and his mom calls him crazy before flouncing out in a huff. Yo snorts at says So sure has many uses. So ignores the insult as he watches Yo chant away.

So arrives at the throne room with tea and is disconcerted to see So already there, joined by Wook and Jung. Yo complains that a certain construction is taking up too many lives and grabs Soo’s wrist in anger. So drops to his knees and claims it is his fault. Back at her quarters, Soo practises writing the peom So had written for her previously.

So heads to THAT garden and of course, bumps into Soo. Won and Yo sees them from the pavilion and Won comments that So hasn’t gotten over Soo yet. Soo approaches So and he orders her not to – it is better they act as if they don’t know each other. Yo takes aim at Soo with his bow and arrow and So spots him just as he lets the arrow fly.
The arrow skims So’s arm as he jumps to cover Soo. Soo realises belatedly that So has just saved her from getting wounded. When she reaches out to touch him in worry, he shrugs her off, aware that Yo and Won are on their way.

Won comments the two still look friendly while So says he took the arrow since it wouldn’t be seemly for the king to be caught killing a palace lady. Yo just laughs it off, saying it was his mistake. So says it’s only a flesh wound but Soo has a good look at it and knows it is a lot worse than that. Won follows the king and So warns Won to be careful. So leaves Soo after his brothers leave.

Soo is back at her quarters, examining the arrow. She calls for Woo Hee and asks whether she can contact Baek Ah. When Woo Hee says she can, Soo asks her to pass a message to him: she wants to see So. Woo Hee reminds her it is dangerous to do so but Soo isn’t deterred.

Jung is in audience with the king, who acknowledges that his youngest brother has contributed to the stability and safety of the nation. He asks what Jung wants as a reward – he’ll grant him anything except the throne. Jung states there is something he wants very badly.

Cut to Jung charging into Damiwon, wanting to see Soo and insisting he has something very important to tell her. Chae Ryung lies that Soo is sick and when Jung thinks it is all the more reason to see her, the maid rattles off if Jung catches whatever ailment Soo has, the whole army might be affected, too. Jung is pacified by the explanation and reminds Chae Ryung that she must tell Soo that he wants to see her.

Soo is off to find So, who is outside the palace. Baek Ah has made sure everyone has been dismissed before Soo’s arrival. She arrives to find him feverish and delirious, with his wound infected. She treats his wound and So snaps out of his delirium enough to see Soo looking after him. He rests more peacefully after.

He wakes up sometime later to find Soo asleep near him. He reaches out to stroke her cheek when she wakes up. He asks her curtly why she is with him and she says she had something to ask him and enlisted Baek Ah’s help. So tells her to ask her question and leave.

Soo says So hasn’t forgotten her, has he? When he said he didn’t love her, he was lying, wasn’t he? So just reiterates that she has to return to the palace and Soo bursts out that she risked her life to sneak out of the palace just to ask him this question. There wasn’t a day in the last two years that she didn’t miss him and she keeps hoping they could go back to the where they were. So she is asking him again and this time, he shouldn’t lie. Does he still love her like last time?

 

 

So succumbs and kisses her deeply. She kisses him back. She tears, he wipes it off gently. He envelopes her in a tender hug and she hugs him back tightly. And well, the candle flickers off and yup, they sleep together. I wished they had made it a little more obvious ala Kim Tae Hee and Yoo Ah In in Jung Ok Jung? It was such an abrupt transition from the passionate kissing and sweet hugging, to Soo sleeping like the dead next to So. Wished they had shown them cuddling at least. Though I admit Lee Jun Ki was killer tender in this scene, which I’m sure caused many females to swoon. The last time I saw the candle flickering off to represent a bed scene taking place was some Chinese drama eons ago. Hahaha. I don’t think I’ve seen this “tactic” used in a current sageuk drama before.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

They are kinda cute though that they actually play shadow puppets after that and feed each other. They gaze at stars outside, all lovey dovey… until Ji Mong turns up. Ha. So quickly puts Soo’s hand away and stands up.

 

Ji Mong informs them that Yo’s condition is worsening… and surprisingly, So doesn’t gloat. Rather, he says that though Yo acts as if he doesn’t give a damn outwardly, inside he has been affected by his involvement in the deaths of Moo and Eun. Ji Mong concurs. And he adds that the time is now. So looks conflicted, and even a little sad.
Later, Soo asks So whether he wants the throne. He replies without doubt that he wants it. She sighs that the throne was the reason why he left her? So answers candidly that the king would use her to control him, and will use him as a reason to pick on her.

And if Soo asks him to give up? So smiles and says he will convince her until she agrees to go along with him. Those words… when he said he didn’t have to be king and would be happy as long they were together…he isn’t going to say them now.

So says they promised not to lie to each other. He wants to stop all the needless bloodshed and while he was away, he realised one thing – once the person-in-charge changes, the world can change. He wants to put an end to all this evil – that’s why he must sit on the throne.

Lee Jun Ki. Again perfect. The wealth and depth of emotions he exhibited in this episode probably adds up to more than what all the princes and IU have tried to display in all 16 episodes so far. His eyes are just…. No words can describe my awe and swoon.

Anyway, I love how So is written, able to understand all his brothers despite the fronts they put up. I was touched by his observation of Yo and he willing to cut him some slack. I love how he didn’t gloat over Yo’s illness and how you can tell that the throne to him is really his last resort to end all this pain, evil and devastation.

He is the only prince who sincerely cares for his brothers to the point he would really rather not hurt or harm any of them. It’s ironical since he was the one who was sent away but then again, his lack of love and lack of interaction with them made him appreciate their presence more. When he couldn’t turn down Eun’s plea….my heart broke.

Oh, Jung. I can see why you are the best person for Soo even though she doesn’t love you. He would be the one who will be able to love her unconditionally without causing her heartache. She may not find love with him…but she would find peace and stability, unlike the other two princes she has loved and lost.

Anyway, Jung’s request to Yo as a reward is most probably Soo’s hand in marriage. That was what happened in the Chinese version. 14th Prince had a decree from the late emperor for the marriage between he and Ruo Xi but he kept it a secret when he found out that she was in love with 4th Prince. But he wielded it later in order for 4th Prince – who had then become the empreror – to release Ruo Xi from the palace.

I honestly find all these time jumps utterly useless since it doesn’t help to substantiate the plot much. I find Soo marginally palatable and well, when she railed that she risked her life to visit So outside the palace….I wanted to say… just how many times has So risked his life for her? I’m pretty disappointed with the way Soo is written: mostly weak, indecisive and her “future-ness” totally eroded. Her love for So feels flimsy and childish but I guess I mostly just ignore it since So’s love for her is so understated yet so deep that it overwhelms me as a viewer.

I don’t mind IU but I’m wondering whether a more experienced, slightly older actress should have been cast because Lee Jun Ki is acting circles, triangles, squares, pentagons around her. Someone like Han Hye Jin would have been awesome since she was all sorts of awesome as Soseono in Jumong. She may be a little old for Soo but she is around the same age as Lee Jun Ki and would have matched him perfectly in screen presence and acting chops, and lend weight and meat to the character. Plus she does strong-willed roles so well.

My fave scene was definitely the one when So had to kill Eun because he couldn’t bear to refuse Eun’s last wish. It was so devastating and Lee Jun Ki was sublime in this scene, his pain, rage and horror playing across his features, his eyes and every gesture.

The good part? The reunion of Soo and So because Lee Jun Ki was seriously to-die-for in the scene. The close-ups of him were great and lent an intimacy to the whole exchange. Actually, he is to-die-for in every darned scene.

 

Oo.... I love those eyes, but who doesn't?

Edited October 18, 2016 by LyraYoo
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[chi13lou]

1 minute ago, lupita311 said:

No, it wasn't out of frustration, I know how it feels to be obsessed with a drama, just that I saw someone asking about it and I thought of making a mental note of the number on the page and went too far to remember what page it was or the name of the people who asked about it. So I posted a general one... Too sleepy right now, but still at work and doing soompi while stuff gets finished so my eyes are crossed and my mind doesn't want to remember anything anymore... Thanks for the support...

I know it can't be helped that some are just excited to share their thoughts and feelings. I haven't watched ep 16 because I choose to wait, although I feel that I have already seen much of it.LOL

Thanks for the hard work!

[liongurl]

32 minutes ago, ruizaio said:

 

I have been avoiding most online communities to avoid spoilers. Antis are thrilled because the competiton's rating soared high. People are posting spoilers everywhere.

 

Kdramas being cancelled because of sports games is common enough. We understand that. What we're mad about is that even though SBS was clear about wanting to cancel Monday's airing because they want the competition to end for a chance of higher rating next week, they waited until the last minute before confirming the cancellation. That apparently seems to have allowed for miscommunication with the folks at Youku, and the leak happened. Angry Korean fans have been calling SBS to voice their complaints, but the response they get is "we'll let the production company know of your concerns." For SBS, it doesn't seem to be a big deal as they'll probably get higher ratings for the last 4 episodes (or so they think). It's the international partners who seem to be affected the most. I was appalled to see all those comments on DramaFever with links to subbed leaked ep 16 on other sites, encouraging paid viewers to go there instead.

So, in a nutshell, Korean fans are Somewhat OK with the cancellation itself (there's nothing much we can do about that), as it is common and they understand that SBS hoped for better rating. We are mad about the late announcement of the cancellation that gave fans a false hope and created this mess with the leak. Last week, they did it and the ratings plummetted as many people thought it was canceled, and they don't seem to have learned from it as they did it again this week.

 

It's definitely to SBS' advantage to delay the airing of the show since they might have a stab at higher ratings but obviously the overseas simulcast partners wouldn't be happy with delays. I wonder if the lack of an official postponement notice for SHR could be because SBS has to avoid breaching their agreements with the simulcast partners. My guess is that SBS has to show that they've attempted to honor the original airing dates/times as far as possible.

It's still really poor planning by them though :X. They should have anticipated ahead of time that airing baseball games live would delay their shows by week(s) and cause issues with the simulcast.

[Silvermaine]

 

Death: The Development of their Love... And Demise

I think I have an abusive relationship with this drama. It constantly gives me heart attacks, anxiety, and longing. I can't get enough of it! The withdrawal symptoms are already there and it hasn't even ended yet. I'm scared.

I'd like to share my thoughts on the development of the SoSoo couple. All of us were, of course, ecstatic on the 14th episode when Hae Soo finally made the first move. Everybody was gushing when they were acting like a real couple, lover's quarrel and all. The boat date is the stuff of dreams! But as I was watching that episode, I couldn't help but feel that it was actually melancholic. I'm certain it wasn't just me. It was very sweet and full of love, but at the same time it was sad. Maybe it was because of Soo's change of demeanor, maybe it was because of So's undying devotion to the people he loves. We all have different reasons, and mine was... It just felt like their love wasn't built on solid rock, yet.

Now comes episode 16, and boy, THAT was an epic-sode. I felt like I was slapped with all kinds of emotions. I didn't know what to feel at the beginning and at the end of this episode. The only thing that was constant within my stormy feelings was that I cried, a lot. It's not like the painfully sad and overflowing tears that I'm sure we shed for Myung-Hee and Court Lady Oh. Death is always a gloomy affair anyway. The tears that came out of my eyes had a certain pang, a longing pain, a heavy heart that I carried even now when I'm in the office. 

Spoiler

 

It’s a harsh reality for them, but Eun and Soon-deok’s death developed their love. Now, I cannot question Hae Soo anymore if she really does love Wang So, or was he just some rebound? Her love for him goes deep, deeper than any personal relationship that she’s had in Goryeo. It cemented both of their feelings, but in a different light, I might say. The married couple’s tragic death made Soo realize how much he loves So, and So realized how much he loves Soo to the point that it could break him. And it did. It is sad, really, to build up passion and adoration in exchange for lives.

However, as much as their love is intense, it also isn’t unconditional. The deaths could potentially be their demise, or maybe it already is? The two of them have not wavered, for sure. But one cannot really entirely control their environment or the laws of nature. Eun and Soon-deok’s death is also So’s development into the man who would lead Goryeo into an era of stability. He now knows, there are greater things at stake.

 

Edited October 18, 2016 by Silvermaine

[Evangeline Yang]

I realized KBS also has a game going on but they air moonlight drawn by cloud as per usual but for this case of SBS, they never. Is really like they sell the drama, earn the money and give up on the whole thing...

[Para12012]

Spoiler

Wouldn’t it be funny if Wang So end up steaming CR in a pot like 4^th did to Yutan? It was one of the most disturbing scenes in Bu Bu Jing Xin. I can totally see him punishing her severely after finding out that she was involved in Wang Moo’s death. And I also believe that she will cause more harm in the episodes to come. Might I also mention that Rouxi hated 4^th for this.

[qwenli]

55 minutes ago, jetsu said:

Why is everyone so angry here ... I'm kind of scared reading comments. 

Well SBS cancelled last night's episode but people still managed to watched the leak one ... why are ppl still mad.  If SBS aired last night's ep late, the rating most likely be affected especially the other moon drama is showing it's 2nd last ep. SBS decision is bad but kind of good. Ive accepted the fact and moved on .... and looking forward to ep 16 live tonight.  

Just my pov, so don't take it on me. Cheers.

@jetsu just to let u know i am not taking on u yeah.

What I want to say is that sbs has no respect for viewers watching this drama, granted it has the lowest ratings among all 3 free to air, but its still a respectable 7-8% and if u multiply it by the korean population, its a good 3 over million people

U cant just ask people to sit around and wait and see if the drama runs or not . No doubt there will be folks who watch both baseball and drama but i think for a large majority its either or programmes. The two groups just dont overlap much. 

@Evangeline Yang

I realise sbs perhaps didnt make as much money or even earn very little becos i notice in the ending trailers 4 production/investors companies (universal, yg and two more) were credited, not sbs, so the rights to youku n other overseas platforms goes to the investors not sbs.

Bottomline is, the baseball game probably brings them more advert revenue than the drama.

[luvkstyle]

19 hours ago, bebebisous33 said:

I believe, due to his injury, he can't use his right arm.

Was this an injury sustained during the filming of Moonlovers?  I didn't know about it.  What did he do?

I was sooo disappointed to come home from work today and find that Ep 16 didn't show last night.  Disappointing but it will give me a chance to catch up a bit on all your inspiring comments I'll skip the baseball postings though haha.  I do like anticipation 

[Gabi Bros]

About the ratings…be prepared for a big hit. I recommend not to search for it. Episode 16 doesn't deserve a lower rating (is a good episode) but if that happens can't be helped because is leaked and the anticipation of many probably is killed. Spoilers are everywhere. Many korean fans are mad at SBS lack of professionalism so I won't be surprised if they punish the channel. That said...Let's enjoy episode 16 SBS version and gather all here as always as if it is the first time watching it.  

[Silvermaine]

On 10/16/2016 at 1:56 AM, violet90 said:

 

i think the writer still going to let WW will be the one who destroy the bracelets.. in BBJX its 8th way of saying that its over between them and RX already choose 4th at that time.. but the twist here is 14th will be the one who send the bracelet to 8th from RX..

so i don't know whether the bracelet already being returned or not but WW still have hopes for Soo so maybe that's why he still holding on but the moment So became a king it will be clear who Soo choose cause she will stay with So...

the ironic symbol for breaking the bracelet is when WW finally realize that Soo choose So over him... that's the final goodbye for both of them.. as for now Soo already move on but not WW...

 

I'd just like to bring this up. Like an oracle lol