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@Berou Heyy:) So sorry for such a late reply, i was under the impression that I'd get an email notification like earlier but didn't so thought that noone replied. Anyways,yes if he is taking time then there must be a reason for sure. Whether he is taking a well deserved break after such a long period of filming or he is just being cautious about his choice, its all cool. Afterall we don't want another I am not a Robot type of experience. I don't blame yoopies too because to be honest people are more interested in the feels and intensity rather than extensive discussions over kissing or farting jokes. Such things only act as audience repellent. So yeah I'd agree to INAR being subpar with his previous shows.

I also became his fan after watching I Miss You. Gosh it was so emotional, I wish they hadn't shown him to be a murderer just to make way for the lead pair to be together. He totally stole the show in that one and also in Warrior baek Dong Soo ( that show was another one hell of a heartbreaking emotional wreck with an unfair ending. Totally used his character to move the story forward only to be used as a sacrificial scrapegoat in the end. I ended up with months of stupor of grief ). Anyways, lets see what happens. I'd love to see him in such a deep intense character again but with a happy ending. May the odds be in his favour. Fingers Crossed. 

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2 hours ago, woonisha said:

@Berou Heyy:) So sorry for such a late reply, i was under the impression that I'd get an email notification like earlier but didn't so thought that noone replied. Anyways,yes if he is taking time then there must be a reason for sure. Whether he is taking a well deserved break after such a long period of filming or he is just being cautious about his choice, its all cool. Afterall we don't want another I am not a Robot type of experience. I don't blame yoopies too because to be honest people are more interested in the feels and intensity rather than extensive discussions over kissing or farting jokes. Such things only act as audience repellent. So yeah I'd agree to INAR being subpar with his previous shows.

I also became his fan after watching I Miss You. Gosh it was so emotional, I wish they hadn't shown him to be a murderer just to make way for the lead pair to be together. He totally stole the show in that one and also in Warrior baek Dong Soo ( that show was another one hell of a heartbreaking emotional wreck with an unfair ending. Totally used his character to move the story forward only to be used as a sacrificial scrapegoat in the end. I ended up with months of stupor of grief ). Anyways, lets see what happens. I'd love to see him in such a deep intense character again but with a happy ending. May the odds be in his favour. Fingers Crossed. 

 Yeah Soompi notifications system can be a bit wonky.  The last time he took such a long break was in 2016 after having filmed 2 movies and 2 dramas. We got his ruler casting news after a 6 months break. He seems to me to an actor who works hard, really hard when he is active (i.e multiplying projects) and once he takes time off, he extends his break time.  This time he must not make a bad choice. He has already used his one year window. Only one year is left before all the hallyu stars in the army come back. If I were him, I would used this once-a-lifetime opportunity and make profit of their absence. 

 

I have nothing against rom coms although they are not my favourite genre but I am not robot writing was lacking. I really felt it was written not by a very talented writer. It was too draggy, that's the only thing I deplore. I take it as an experimental project for him, he chose it because he wanted to do something different than what he is used to. He probably got attracted by the robot theme that wasn't experienced in korean dramas and moreover he already knew the director since they worked together on Arang and the Magistrate. These must be the reasons why he chose it. 

 

Oh I finally met someone who became his fan after IMY !! :).  I got amazed by the intensity of his acting , he completely nailed that role. The writer was just lacking creativity and couldn't come up with a better plot, she/ he needed to make him a killer so that she can pair the female lead with the male lead. I'm still denying the unfair ending of WBDS, I still haven't understood why the writer chose to kill his character. In my alternative ending, both leads made up and became besties :lol:. I have the same wish, I hope to see his intense acting that we have seen in IMY in near future, maybe an anti-hero role as a male lead who is bad but becomes good and redeems himself ? 

 

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23 hours ago, Berou said:

 Yeah Soompi notifications system can be a bit wonky.  The last time he took such a long break was in 2016 after having filmed 2 movies and 2 dramas. We got his ruler casting news after a 6 months break. He seems to me to an actor who works hard, really hard when he is active (i.e multiplying projects) and once he takes time off, he extends his break time.  This time he must not make a bad choice. He has already used his one year window. Only one year is left before all the hallyu stars in the army come back. If I were him, I would used this once-a-lifetime opportunity and make profit of their absence. 

 

I have nothing against rom coms although they are not my favourite genre but I am not robot writing was lacking. I really felt it was written not by a very talented writer. It was too draggy, that's the only thing I deplore. I take it as an experimental project for him, he chose it because he wanted to do something different than what he is used to. He probably got attracted by the robot theme that wasn't experienced in korean dramas and moreover he already knew the director since they worked together on Arang and the Magistrate. These must be the reasons why he chose it. 

 

Oh I finally met someone who became his fan after IMY !! :).  I got amazed by the intensity of his acting , he completely nailed that role. The writer was just lacking creativity and couldn't come up with a better plot, she/ he needed to make him a killer so that she can pair the female lead with the male lead. I'm still denying the unfair ending of WBDS, I still haven't understood why the writer chose to kill his character. In my alternative ending, both leads made up and became besties :lol:. I have the same wish, I hope to see his intense acting that we have seen in IMY in near future, maybe an anti-hero role as a male lead who is bad but becomes good and redeems himself ? 

 

 

Well you said it all. He should indeed take advantage of the absence of hallyu stars.  Even I don't have anything against rom coms but INAR lacked alot when it came to writing and moreover the robot theme and improper handling of intense situations kind of spoiled it. In my case I saw him in INAR a long time  after I Miss You and WBDS so it was hell of a shocker for me to find out that  it was actually Yoo Seung Ho in the drama. Apart from his smile he looked barely recognizable and ultimately I couldn't connect with his new look ( because I was too used to the old one). Truth be said his old look/ makeover in I Miss You and WBDS was simply divine.

Coming to the story of IMY even I would not deny that it was his intensity of acting/ intense character which got me hooked. The way Harry ruined his own life for his love was amazing, impressive and tragic as well. I mean who even does that these days? that too for 14 years?! Just like you already mentioned the writer went short of ideas and made him a killer ( Not that I bought the writer's desperate failed attempt to paint him as a villain. I didn't buy it for one second nor I had any issues with it. He was failed by the law and justice system and except the death of Detective Kim over a misunderstanding, all of the others were much worse monsters and had it coming, especially the rapist). As a woman I feel ashamed of the female lead rejecting Harry for a guy who left her at the mercy of those monsters.

And as far as WBDS is concerned I never moved on from it nor I think I ever would. Lucky for you to think of an alternate ending but for me the death of his character was too tragic heartbreaking, unforgivable outrageous and totally uncalled for!!! They could have simply faked his death and shown him alive somewhere far away from Joseon but no. Just when we finally thought that everything is going to be fine, he can finally breathe freely and be with his friends again, they had to show his own childhood friend thirsty for his blood. Man I have even lost count of the number of times I have expressed my anger and pain over the unjust, unfair death of Yeo Woon on other social media platforms. Its just beyond me that what got into the writer to kill him off like that. Nobody even cared about the best swordsman title or the girl. All we wanted was for Yeo Woon to live and finally be happy.They merely had to show the real truth prevailing ( about him NOT being a murderer after all)  and  brotherhood coming out strong. I would never ever forgive the WBDS writer for heartlessly killing him off like that. Nope. Never.

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23 hours ago, woonisha said:

 

Well you said it all. He should indeed take advantage of the absence of hallyu stars.  Even I don't have anything against rom coms but INAR lacked alot when it came to writing and moreover the robot theme and improper handling of intense situations kind of spoiled it. In my case I saw him in INAR a long time  after I Miss You and WBDS so it was hell of a shocker for me to find out that  it was actually Yoo Seung Ho in the drama. Apart from his smile he looked barely recognizable and ultimately I couldn't connect with his new look ( because I was too used to the old one). Truth be said his old look/ makeover in I Miss You and WBDS was simply divine.

Coming to the story of IMY even I would not deny that it was his intensity of acting/ intense character which got me hooked. The way Harry ruined his own life for his love was amazing, impressive and tragic as well. I mean who even does that these days? that too for 14 years?! Just like you already mentioned the writer went short of ideas and made him a killer ( Not that I bought the writer's desperate failed attempt to paint him as a villain. I didn't buy it for one second nor I had any issues with it. He was failed by the law and justice system and except the death of Detective Kim over a misunderstanding, all of the others were much worse monsters and had it coming, especially the rapist). As a woman I feel ashamed of the female lead rejecting Harry for a guy who left her at the mercy of those monsters.

And as far as WBDS is concerned I never moved on from it nor I think I ever would. Lucky for you to think of an alternate ending but for me the death of his character was too tragic heartbreaking, unforgivable outrageous and totally uncalled for!!! They could have simply faked his death and shown him alive somewhere far away from Joseon but no. Just when we finally thought that everything is going to be fine, he can finally breathe freely and be with his friends again, they had to show his own childhood friend thirsty for his blood. Man I have even lost count of the number of times I have expressed my anger and pain over the unjust, unfair death of Yeo Woon on other social media platforms. Its just beyond me that what got into the writer to kill him off like that. Nobody even cared about the best swordsman title or the girl. All we wanted was for Yeo Woon to live and finally be happy.They merely had to show the real truth prevailing ( about him NOT being a murderer after all)  and  brotherhood coming out strong. I would never ever forgive the WBDS writer for heartlessly killing him off like that. Nope. Never.

 

There are many rom coms that are well-done and became classic dramas :  My love from the stars, full house, sungkyunkwan scandal, protect the boss, just to name a few.  I enjoyed watching all those dramas mentioned because of the creativity  of the writer. I knew right away the only issue would be the writing if the drama would have flaws, the cast was great and the director was highly talented but they paired the drama with an unknown writer who didn't have much experience in writing dramas. Unfortunately 12 episodes out of 16 were about the robot issue and the deception. That was the only plot of the drama. The side plot was the company politics that got quickly brushed after episode 12. Like you said, the writer failed in handling intense situations and especially the suspense... in the end the villains turned out to not be villains. They were no villains !

 

Reading your shocker reminds of me :lol:. I first got drawn to him in I Miss You ( I watched it while it was being aired). Then I got curious about him and googled him, I got a shock because I had watched him in another drama, Operation proposal, before IMY. I didn't recognize him :lol:, it was like two completely different persons were in operation proposal and IMY. but isn't it a compliment and a proof of his skills ?  He is like a cameleon, transforming himself every time he plays another character in a new dramas. His hairstyle and his fashion are extensions of his acting, making him look unrecognizable. In every of his drama, he sports a new look and plays a different character. You don't see the actor  Yoo Seung Ho but the character he plays. 

 

I also never understood why the female lead in IMY went back to her first love that she barely knew when she got kidnapped . Her very first love abandoned her and let her be raped. We are not the only ones complaining about the plot, dramabeans stopped recapping it after episodes 4. Back then koala's playground was doing recaps too and after 12/13 episodes, Ms koala stopped too (  hers  was due to a lack of time). But if you look at the comments in Koala's playground site, everyone was rooting for Harry and was amazed by YSH's acting.  Even in netizenbuzz. Everyone was saying it was YSH's breakthrough drama and how he stole the spotlight from the male lead.  There was even a rift in the korean fandom between YSH's fans and PYC's fans at that time, PYC's were mad that most viewers were praising YSH, so they puposely manipulated the comments so that PYC's name will appear upper with the comments with most likes. 

 

Concerning WBDS, it seems like not only YSH's fans are angered and resent the writer. Last year, a beanie ( and a soompier), cherkell wrote a plea at dramabeans  for an alternate ending

 

http://www.dramabeans.com/2017/12/alternate-endings-a-plaintive-plea-for-a-do-over-of-warrior-baek-dong-soo/

 

[Alternate Endings] A plaintive plea for a do-over of Warrior Baek Dong-soo]

 

 

By @cherkell

It has been exactly 6 years, 6 weeks, and 4 days since the finale of Warrior Baek Dong-soo… and I am STILL PISSED OFF over it! My precious Ji Chang-wook deserved a better ending for his first starring role in a sageuk. By the time the last episodes aired, the show was starting to suffer from the terminal condition known as writerus extendaritis, after announcing the extension (from 24 to 29 episodes) in early September 2011. The writer definitely ran out of steam around Episode 26 and barely kept the plot together with thin string in order to make it to Episode 29.

I would have been one happy fangirl if the show had officially ended on Episode 28 after the coup attempt and resulting epic sword battle on the palace grounds. As dictated by the Book of Sageuk, the good guys won and the bad guys didn’t. But the best part was that the bromance between the two boys was BACK! *swoons*

But nooooooo. We viewers had to be subjected to Yet. One. More. Warning: spoilers ahead.

 

To recap for those who have not witnessed the horror that was Warrior Baek Dong-soo’s finale, it went down like this:

After some unnecessary flashback padding, Yeo Woon knows he is dead meat walking after disbanding the assassin colony Heuksa Chorong, and decides to commit suicide by Dong-soo. Finding a nice open field with enough room for a proper pas de deux, Dong-soo tries to talk Woon out of his death wish. Woon gets tired of Dong-soo’s blabbering and impales himself on Dong-soo’s sword, giving himself the opportunity for one last soliloquy about all the wrongs his death will finally correct. Dong-soo goes mental while screaming for Woon to LIVE, DAMMIT LIVE!!

Even though Woon does not survive, I would have been perfectly happy for the show to end right there.

 

But then there’s a time jump. Dong-soo is at his local watering hole, majorly drowning his sorrows. But then Woon sits down and joins Dong-soo for a drink as they reminisce about their younger days. Dong-soo eventually shakes off his dream and sees The Log Ji-sun sitting next to him instead of Woon. (That alone would make me drink myself into a coma for sure.)

All plots that transpired over the past 28 episodes are tied up neatly, while the characters happily pair off: Dong-soo/The Log; Jin-ju/Painter Guy; Cho-rip/Mi-soo; Sa-mo/Jang-mi. Sadly though, Woon’s still dead. SOBS. Dong-soo ends up being appointed the palace guard’s chief instructor, there’s some nonsense thrown in about kids in a field trying to learn swordplay, and then Dong-soo and Ji-sun mount their horses and ride off into the sunset. The end.

WHAT IN THE FREAKIN’ HELL WAS THAT?!?

 

In my alternate ending, any remaining boring palace machinations cease to be known. After the king’s passing and the crown prince’s ascension to the throne, there would be no need for more political stuff and it would have mercifully faded into the background.

Dong-soo ends up wandering around aimlessly for a few years, but still continues to hone his martial arts skills while keeping his mane of glory flowing and his chocolate abs incredibly toned. He also returns to being the goofy Dong-soo first shown in Episodes 5-10, and meets up with Woon quite often. The bromance must go on!

 

Having fully recovered from Dong-soo’s stabbing, Woon remodels the Heuksa Chorong honeycomb hideout into a cozy bed-and-breakfast to house the increasing number of tourists passing through Joseon after hearing word that Proprietor Woon was the only person to ever survive a Dong-soo attack (therefore becoming sort of a local legend around those parts). The gisaeng Gu-hyang opens a side business inside the B&B selling potions and telling fortunes.

Elder swordsmen Gwang-taek and Chun decide that a fight to the death would be counterproductive to living long enough to spoil their grandchildren, so they lay down their blades and open a small tavern where they could make money hand over fist just keeping Dong-soo and Woon happy with booze and snacks. Ji would not have been killed back in Episode 19, but instead presides as the mistress of their tavern, happily mediating the squabbles that Gwang-taek and Chun would inevitably get into over the smallest things.

 

Ji-sun should have officially died—not when Dong-soo accidentally stabbed her in Episode 13, but after ingesting a poisoned batch of that damned red ginseng that she risked life and limb for. Live by the root; die by the root. GOOD RIDDANCE. All the other characters basically stay alive, because history. (Except for that jerkwad Cho-rip, who should have died when Woon stabbed him the first time. WTF, Cho-rip?)

Jin-ju decides that Painter Guy is way too boring since all he does is stay home and paint, paint, paint… and kicks his lazy richard simmons to the curb in order to join forces with her first love Dong-soo. Dong-soo unsuccessfully tries to fend off the advances of fellow warrior Jin-ju, but eventually gives in. Thereafter, they become the first husband and wife Joseon palace guard training team. On their days off, Dong-soo and Jin-ju venture out into the countryside with their three gorgeous children, giving master classes to the neighborhood kids in the ways of the sword, Dong-soo style.

Warrior Baek Dong-soo had SO much potential that truly delivered in its first two-thirds, but the extension worked against the plot and the show eventually sputtered to a lame finish. What could have been… *sigh*

 

 

 

 

 

Ok I better stop writing... my post is already long enough. When it comes to YSH, I can blabber endlessly.  Btw, yesterday a korean fan posted a pic of YSH doing volunteer work in a camp for children with a diabetes. So, when he is on break either he does his hobbies or doing volunteer work

 

 

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@Berou Yes that is true, there are so many well executed rom coms out there, Strong Woman Do Bong Soon, Weight Lifting Fairy Kim Bok Joo, My Love From Another Star, Pinocchio are just to name a few from the long list. INAR like you mentioned was neither well written nor well executed and wasted so many episodes just like that. And as for YSH's looks I'd agree, he is like a chameleon and really gets into the skin of every character he plays. I on the other hand recognized him in all his shows except Ruler and INAR (those two were the most shocking ones lol).

Coming to IMY yes I am aware of PYC fans' conspiracy and deliberately targeting YSH on social media trying to malign his image. They probably resorted to such tactics to make their favorite shine (in reel and real)   but much to their dismay I am sure they failed at that and Yoo Seung Ho stole the show not only as a strong character but also as an amazing actor.

As for  WBDS,  yes I have seen that article.before and agree with it. Everyone wants a redo of WBDS  with an alternate ending. Even now, almost 7 years after the show has handed, people still remember it and feel badly pissed off at its ending. It was Yeo Woon's show. Period. The so called villains shined in it totally, acting and character wise both otherwise frankly speaking except Woon and Chun's character everything was terribly  half baked including the bromance and Baek Dong Soo as a lead character. He did pull tall claims about love and destiny not being real but at the end of the day he was unable to save his best friend. He was just carrying his brains in his knees as usual and failed to see past poor Woonie's lies who had already had enough. The whole fight with the swords was unnecessary and had he really been his best friend in every sense of the word, there was no way he could have missed that suicidal look in his eyes and his deliberate provocations to kill him.He'd have died himself instead of living off happily ever after with the girl Woonie loved and the sick friend who instigated his death in the first place,:angry:

P.S  Good to see him getting involved in such activities. Lets see when we get the news about his new show :)

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On 7/29/2018 at 7:45 PM, woonisha said:

@Berou Yes that is true, there are so many well executed rom coms out there, Strong Woman Do Bong Soon, Weight Lifting Fairy Kim Bok Joo, My Love From Another Star, Pinocchio are just to name a few from the long list. INAR like you mentioned was neither well written nor well executed and wasted so many episodes just like that. And as for YSH's looks I'd agree, he is like a chameleon and really gets into the skin of every character he plays. I on the other hand recognized him in all his shows except Ruler and INAR (those two were the most shocking ones lol).

Coming to IMY yes I am aware of PYC fans' conspiracy and deliberately targeting YSH on social media trying to malign his image. They probably resorted to such tactics to make their favorite shine (in reel and real)   but much to their dismay I am sure they failed at that and Yoo Seung Ho stole the show not only as a strong character but also as an amazing actor.

As for  WBDS,  yes I have seen that article.before and agree with it. Everyone wants a redo of WBDS  with an alternate ending. Even now, almost 7 years after the show has handed, people still remember it and feel badly pissed off at its ending. It was Yeo Woon's show. Period. The so called villains shined in it totally, acting and character wise both otherwise frankly speaking except Woon and Chun's character everything was terribly  half baked including the bromance and Baek Dong Soo as a lead character. He did pull tall claims about love and destiny not being real but at the end of the day he was unable to save his best friend. He was just carrying his brains in his knees as usual and failed to see past poor Woonie's lies who had already had enough. The whole fight with the swords was unnecessary and had he really been his best friend in every sense of the word, there was no way he could have missed that suicidal look in his eyes and his deliberate provocations to kill him.He'd have died himself instead of living off happily ever after with the girl Woonie loved and the sick friend who instigated his death in the first place,:angry:

P.S  Good to see him getting involved in such activities. Lets see when we get the news about his new show :)

 It is quite interesting that you say you didn't recognize him in his last two dramas. It makes me recall what he said in his last year nylon interview, he expressed his worries as an actor and how he has accumulated throughout years " bad acting" and how his acting has YSH's feels and is stereotyped.  Your shockers probably go beyond characters and looks. Every actor has a certain acting style, perhaps you didn't find YSH's trademark acting in his last two dramas and YSH is trying to change his acting style. I'm not an expert in acting but I understand your shocker more when it comes to I am not a robot. It took me some time to adjust myself to his character and the YSH I saw on my screen. Besides,  in his last two dramas his potential was wasted due to the combination of bad directing and bad writing. Ruler could have been one hell of a drama if only MBC didn't botch it by entrusting it to rookies. 

 

You are quite well-informed and knowledgeable. I don't think many fans know about this conspiracy. Thankfully I got to know of it really really late, so I didn't witness it. Do you know how YSH's fans reacted to it ? YSH also experienced the same fate as PYC in remember when the writer shifted the focus on the villain and made the villain the show of the drama. As far as I know, YSH fans didn't create conspiracy or malign NGM ( the actor and character), send hateful messages to SBS or to NGM. 

 

My take on  Yeo Woon is that he was like a sacrificial sheep to writers. He was used as a plot device to forward the plot and once he wasn't useful, he got written off. Besides he did too many bad things and killed too many people as an assassin, such a character in most of cases face death. Perhaps the writer couldn't find a logical explanation to his death ( you know bad writing and not enough of talent ;)), hence we got this illogical, unfair, jarring, frustating and unbelievable ending. 

 

Yes it's good to see him enjoying his life and doing what he likes. I read on some fans posts, he is actually a regular of that camp and has worked with the staff in 2014 too. The camp is called the blue life camp

 

 

 

Someone filmed him participating in a drifting competition and he placed 4th !! :D

 

 

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7 hours ago, Berou said:

 It is quite interesting that you say you didn't recognize him in his last two dramas. It makes me recall what he said in his last year nylon interview, he expressed his worries as an actor and how he has accumulated throughout years " bad acting" and how his acting has YSH's feels and is stereotyped.  Your shockers probably go beyond characters and looks. Every actor has a certain acting style, perhaps you didn't find YSH's trademark acting in his last two dramas and YSH is trying to change his acting style. I'm not an expert in acting but I understand your shocker more when it comes to I am not a robot. It took me some time to adjust myself to his character and the YSH I saw on my screen. Besides,  in his last two dramas his potential was wasted due to the combination of bad directing and bad writing. Ruler could have been one hell of a drama if only MBC didn't botch it by entrusting it to rookies. 

 

You are quite well-informed and knowledgeable. I don't think many fans know about this conspiracy. Thankfully I got to know of it really really late, so I didn't witness it. Do you know how YSH's fans reacted to it ? YSH also experienced the same fate as PYC in remember when the writer shifted the focus on the villain and made the villain the show of the drama. As far as I know, YSH fans didn't create conspiracy or malign NGM ( the actor and character), send hateful messages to SBS or to NGM. 

 

My take on  Yeo Woon is that he was like a sacrificial sheep to writers. He was used as a plot device to forward the plot and once he wasn't useful, he got written off. Besides he did too many bad things and killed too many people as an assassin, such a character in most of cases face death. Perhaps the writer couldn't find a logical explanation to his death ( you know bad writing and not enough of talent ;)), hence we got this illogical, unfair, jarring, frustating and unbelievable ending. 

 

Yes it's good to see him enjoying his life and doing what he likes. I read on some fans posts, he is actually a regular of that camp and has worked with the staff in 2014 too. The camp is called the blue life camp

 

 

 

Someone filmed him participating in a drifting competition and he won the 4th place !! :D

 

 

 

My shockers go beyond looks and characters? I didn't quite get you there.  My shocker was due to the change of his facial features        ( probably because there was a significant gap of years when i watched him in ruler and INAR after MY and WBDS.) ,not his acting. I never found his acting faulty, stereotyped or bad in any of his dramas His acting is flawless but yeah I won't deny that it took me some time as well  to adjust to his character in INAR ..As for the fans' conspiracy, I have never seen any of YSH fan sinking to PYC fan level yet. Don't know much about Remember's fan wars because I watched the drama long after it was aired.

As far as Yeo Woon  is concerned, he was indecisive and highly conflicted yes, but he was definitely not a killer or a bad person at all. Last time I checked he spent most of his time saving people instead of killing them.  He didn't kill anyone. He had his heart in the right place and was the purest of them all.

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@woonisha I was looking too much into and thinking perhaps there were other reasons. It is understandable, indeed there was a change of facial feature between before the army and after the army.  After I miss you I followed him and got to know of his updates regularly, so I didn't get the same shock ^_^.  I also never found his acting faulty, he is amazingly and incredibly talented for his age and I REALLY hope he realizes this. He is a bit too critical and  blames himself when efforts don't meet results. That's why in that interview he said he is worried about his acting and thinks it is stereotyped.  When one of his projects becomes a flop, he takes the blame on himself and his acting. 

 

Yeah I didn't see  one yoopie complaining or posting bad comments about  remember's case. There were no fanwars. I was active on soompi during that time and posted in remember thread. This is why I love and really like how nice Yoopies are, which sadly not the case for every fans' actors/ actresses.  I have witnessed those fanwars concerning other actresses/ actors. 

 

 I agree. Yeo Woon was not a bad person, he was conditioned by his father that told him everytime about his destiny to be an assassin. He was really torn between his " destiny" and his friends with whom he grew up. He had a strong instinct to protect them  It's just he was convinced that the assassin path was his destiny and when he desired to escape from that path ( i.e to spend his days with friends)  and to exterminate the Heuksa Chorong, he chose suicide . It's been a while I've watched the drama to be honest, I watched it  when I was slowly getting  interested in YSH. And I remember at that time I encountered many difficulties to finish it, I even took a break from it ( because I felt the plot was too slow and action scenes weren't my thing back then). So I only have this memory. But since my taste in dramas has changed drastically, I should re-watch it with new eyes and savor  it with my eyes. 

 

Btw he has posted an update today

 

 

 

 

This update was a promise he made to his fans at his last FM in Seoul :) , he promised he would film inside the car to show us  how he is doing drifts. 

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On 7/30/2018 at 10:37 PM, Berou said:

@woonisha I was looking too much into and thinking perhaps there were other reasons. It is understandable, indeed there was a change of facial feature between before the army and after the army.  After I miss you I followed him and got to know of his updates regularly, so I didn't get the same shock ^_^.  I also never found his acting faulty, he is amazingly and incredibly talented for his age and I REALLY hope he realizes this. He is a bit too critical and  blames himself when efforts don't meet results. That's why in that interview he said he is worried about his acting and thinks it is stereotyped.  When one of his projects becomes a flop, he takes the blame on himself and his acting. 

 

Yeah I didn't see  one yoopie complaining or posting bad comments about  remember's case. There were no fanwars. I was active on soompi during that time and posted in remember thread. This is why I love and really like how nice Yoopies are, which sadly not the case for every fans' actors/ actresses.  I have witnessed those fanwars concerning other actresses/ actors. 

 

 I agree. Yeo Woon was not a bad person, he was conditioned by his father that told him everytime about his destiny to be an assassin. He was really torn between his " destiny" and his friends with whom he grew up. He had a strong instinct to protect them  It's just he was convinced that the assassin path was his destiny and when he desired to escape from that path ( i.e to spend his days with friends)  and to exterminate the Heuksa Chorong, he chose suicide . It's been a while I've watched the drama to be honest, I watched it  when I was slowly getting  interested in YSH. And I remember at that time I encountered many difficulties to finish it, I even took a break from it ( because I felt the plot was too slow and action scenes weren't my thing back then). So I only have this memory. But since my taste in dramas has changed drastically, I should re-watch it with new eyes and savor  it with my eyes. 

 

Btw he has posted an update today

 

 

This update was a promise he made to his fans at his last FM in Seoul :) , he promised he would film inside the car to show us  how he is doing drifts. 

 

Yes exactly, my shocker was merely limited to the drastic change in his pre and post army look only. He is indeed incredibly talented for his age and  a natural when it comes to acting. It was saddening to see his interview where he blamed himself for INAR's low ratings because it wasn't his fault at all. I wish somebody bucked him up by telling him the truth that he really can't do anything about bad writing, screenplay or poor execution of a story. As for yoopies, yes they are cool. Even during Missing You's conspiracy i never saw any yoopie showing any sort of  indecency or crossing a line. Mostly everyone I have met is awesome.

Coming to Yeo Woon, he is a highly misunderstood character by some.  Yes he was torn between his destiny and his innate desire to protect his loved ones but he was never a real  assassin/ killer in true sense of the word. He even stabbed Yang Cho Rip as a diversion only, not with an intention to kill him ( even when he was on the orders to do so the first time but he still didn't and cured him the first chance he got). Moreover he didn't choose suicide when he finally had the chance to escape his fate and dissolve Heuksa Chorong. He did went to the King and got pardoned too. He did try to save his own life and the state from the coup until Yang Cho Rip messed things up and opened his sorry to say filthy mouth to guilt trip him again into the very pain and darkness he tried to escape all his life. For me that was an instigation of suicide/ murder attempt. The most frustrating part of the show was that Yeo Woon died while taking the blame for the murders/ crimes he didn't even do!! His good deeds never came out in the open and to add to the nuisance he wasn't even properly mourned by anyone. Personally I'd never even have looked at the face of the friend who instigated the murder of another friend of mine  let alone be normal and happy with that friend + wooden chopstick my best friend loved.

As for your frustrations over the slow plot, I completely understand where you are coming from. Even I won't deny that I had the same problem but since I watched online so I fast forwarded through almost all of the non Yoo Seung Ho parts ( because to be very honest his character was the only one which managed to gain my attention a and win my heart ).

Oh and I saw this video of him. He is so awesome. It was good to see him laughing and smiling like that, not ashamed to say my heart stopped lol. He is simply adorable.

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@woonisha When you said look I thought you meant his character's fashion style and hairstyle ^_^. I didn't thought about his facial features.Yeo Woon is a complex character and we can spend days analyzing him. This is why he is misunderstood by many. What I meant by suicide is that in the end he preferred to provoke his friend and be killed by him. He had that suicidal look in his eyes when he urged him to fight with him. When I watched the scene I had it seen coming but Baek Dong Soo was too stupid for not noticing it and felt into his trap. But yes it was an instigation of murder attempt.  That's the most frustating part, he died while being misunderstood and his good deeds never were uncovered like you said.  The last scene of Baek Dong Soo being all happy and spending his time with his lover was quite jarring. Just a 2 minutes earlier we were shown the saddest scene and the death of YW. No mourning or whatsoever like you said. 

 

 I got very frustrated while watching it. I dropped it but then I went back watching. I really don't like fast-forwarding dramas, either I watch them without fast-fowarding or I don't watch at all. But I had to do it if I wanted to watch YSH . 

 

A smart fan compiled the videos of him drifting into one frame : 

 

Spoiler

 

 

 

He is so adorable gosh.. he screamed repeatedly I messed up :lol:, then he said it is embarassing when he glanced at the camera. 

 

Updates : 

 

 

His sign, lucky fans got a sign from him. 

 

 

He did an interview for a japanese magazine, marisol,  in which he said he hasn't chosen his next project yet. I will try to translate it later. 

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@Berou Yes you are right. He was a very complex character with multiple layers (thats why maybe he was a difficult character to understand for some) but thats what made him much more interesting than rest of the bland lot.  As for his preference of suicide well I'd say that in the end  (unlike throughout the series) he was forced to do it, like I said instigation, it wasn't his first choice/ priority. For once he did had hope and tried to live for a change but unfortunately got manipulated once again ( and yes Dong Soo was one hell of an idiot for not realizing that suicidal look in his eyes and his provocations:sweatingbullets: sigh). In my case I can easily skip through the parts/characters I dont like or find boring because honestly I watch shows for the characters I like and their stories, not the drama or the story as a whole. 

The fan was clever lol. Its cool. i just wish he comes back soon with a good project. It has already been quite long. All these updates are good and its always nice to hear about him but seeing him in a drama regularly is something else. Hope a good project comes his way soon:)

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11 minutes ago, woonisha said:

@Berou   really appreciate your effort :)Thanks for the update Keep up the good work :)

 Thank you :D . It took me 2 hours to translate . I usually like to translate his interviews but I am reluctant to do it because many times I've been a victim of some people who copy my post without giving any credits to me. It is kind of frustating :angry:

 

I will reply to your previous post later ~

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On 8/4/2018 at 4:16 PM, woonisha said:

@Berou  My pleasure and no worries take your time. I completely understand.Translations are no joke, it takes much time effort and hardwork. Copying stuff without giving the due credit isnt ethical at all in my opinion.

 Yes translating is very time-consuming.  Regardless of being unethical or not, it is very disrespectful to lie and not admit it when being confronted. Every time  I asked them to stop doing It, they plainly denied it right away.  I was forced to come up with proofs then. They copied from my opinions/observations  to informations posted here. 

On 8/2/2018 at 5:14 PM, woonisha said:

@Berou.  As for his preference of suicide well I'd say that in the end  (unlike throughout the series) he was forced to do it, like I said instigation, it wasn't his first choice/ priority. For once he did had hope and tried to live for a change but unfortunately got manipulated once again ( and yes Dong Soo was one hell of an idiot for not realizing that suicidal look in his eyes and his provocations:sweatingbullets: sigh). 

All his  ChoRip 's fault (why Cho Rip ? *cries).  He got his beautiful redemption arc and prevented the coup againt royalty, then ChoRip asked to kill him to the king. When YW heared that, all his wishes to go back to his friends went away.  He felt their distrust and perhaps understood they will never be friends like they used to. YW tried until his death to fight against his destiny, to escape the assassin path, to undo his wrongdoings. before his death Cho Rip's words to him resonated within him and influenced him to die. The writer's message  was no matter what he cant escape his destiny and he will be forever misunderstood. Until he is alive, his minions will kill and he is going to get misunderstood  because of them. The writer didn't want him to have a happy end even though he redeemed himself .  The manipulation and the disobedience of his underlings  precipitated his death. 

 

Btw which dramas of him have you liked besides IMY and WBDS?  You stated you dont like I am not a robot, how about Remember and Ruler? 

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On 8/5/2018 at 7:38 PM, Berou said:

 Yes translating is very time-consuming.  Regardless of being unethical or not, it is very disrespectful to lie and not admit it when being confronted. Every time  I asked them to stop doing It, they plainly denied it right away.  I was forced to come up with proofs then. They copied from my opinions/observations  to informations posted here. 

All his  ChoRip 's fault (why Cho Rip ? *cries).  He got his beautiful redemption arc and prevented the coup againt royalty, then ChoRip asked to kill him to the king. When YW heared that, all his wishes to go back to his friends went away.  He felt their distrust and perhaps understood they will never be friends like they used to. YW tried until his death to fight against his destiny, to escape the assassin path, to undo his wrongdoings. before his death Cho Rip's words to him resonated within him and influenced him to die. The writer's message  was no matter what he cant escape his destiny and he will be forever misunderstood. Until he is alive, his minions will kill and he is going to get misunderstood  because of them. The writer didn't want him to have a happy end even though he redeemed himself .  The manipulation and the disobedience of his underlings  precipitated his death. 

 

Btw which dramas of him have you liked besides IMY and WBDS?  You stated you dont like I am not a robot, how about Remember and Ruler? 

 

Of course, coming up with proofs is the only option one is left with after such things.

Well  Cho Rip made it pretty clear that things could never be the same. Like you said his words made him realize that no matter what he does the world would not accept him ( not that he wanted to return to them, he had already decided to exile himself somewhere far away)...As for his minions, they did not attacked Cho Rip of their own accord. They attacked because Cho Rip asked for Woon's blood. Salute to their loyalty for trying to protect their master even after he had dissolved the gang and set them all free. They wouldn't have continued killing if YW wasn't endangered in future also. Therefore, I only blame Cho Rip and Woon's father for his suicide. Tbvh I really don't care what the writer wanted. He should have at least bothered to think about  what YW fans wanted :(  I only care about what I wanted to see as an ending for my fav. I can't curse and hate the writer enough for such an unfair ending. At the end of the day he left most of the YW fandom feeling shocked miserable outraged and badly cheated.

As for his other shows yes INAR was sub par.  Ruler was ok but Remember was good. I really liked his High schooler look. He looked soooo cute lol. I also liked Operation Proposal and Imaginary Cat. The way he looked at that Cat..I wanted to push that cat away and sit in its place lol :D Although they sidelined his character ( because well it was 2nd lead afterall) in Queen Seondeok, his role as Kim ChunChu was quite meaty and impressive one as well. I wish it was Kim Chun Chu's show, they could have done so much more with his character. Other than that I also liked him as Min Jae in Flames of Desire, he was very young back then but still managed to pull off such a gloomy,subdued, complex and a bit rebellious character flawlessly.  Regardless of some issues I had with his character in Master of Study, he was quite good there as well. His role ( though a supporting one only) of Jade Emperor in Arang and the Magistrate was especially a treat to the eyes after Yeo Woon's death ( sigh :( ) In the movie Seondal, the Man who sells River, his role wasn't intense but yeah it was quite refreshing and enjoyable one. He was absolutely adorable in movies Hearty Paws,and City of Fathers. Blind ( though  didn't exactly focus on his character much ) had an interesting character of him as well. It pretty much showed how teenagers typically behave these days lol. 4th Period Mystery and Joseon Magician were okayish. My favourite MVs / songs of him are T ARA- Lies, Ground with So Ji Sub and Park Shin Hye, Believe in Love with IU and Sullae with Rothy.  So all in all, with the exception of a couple of his projects I pretty much like anything and everything that has Yoo Seung Ho in it.

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On 8/7/2018 at 6:48 PM, woonisha said:

 

Of course, coming up with proofs is the only option one is left with after such things.

Well  Cho Rip made it pretty clear that things could never be the same. Like you said his words made him realize that no matter what he does the world would not accept him ( not that he wanted to return to them, he had already decided to exile himself somewhere far away)...As for his minions, they did not attacked Cho Rip of their own accord. They attacked because Cho Rip asked for Woon's blood. Salute to their loyalty for trying to protect their master even after he had dissolved the gang and set them all free. They wouldn't have continued killing if YW wasn't endangered in future also. Therefore, I only blame Cho Rip and Woon's father for his suicide. Tbvh I really don't care what the writer wanted. He should have at least bothered to think about  what YW fans wanted :(  I only care about what I wanted to see as an ending for my fav. I can't curse and hate the writer enough for such an unfair ending. At the end of the day he left most of the YW fandom feeling shocked miserable outraged and badly cheated.

Yes but it is his minions' will to protect their master that precipitated his death and worsened the situation. His friends misunderstood and thought they were acting per YW's orders.  YW didn't want to clear things and let them misunderstood him. He willingly took all the blame. YW could have punished his minions when they attempted to poison his friend. But he didn't do it. When he dissolved the gang he was clear and told them to stop carrying swords, and  they should leave the swords behind. They didn't listen to him and planned to kill his friend Cho Rip to protect him. To me, this is a clear act of disobedience  even though the reason is justified. 

 

On 8/7/2018 at 6:48 PM, woonisha said:

 

As for his other shows yes INAR was sub par.  Ruler was ok but Remember was good. I really liked his High schooler look. He looked soooo cute lol. I also liked Operation Proposal and Imaginary Cat. The way he looked at that Cat..I wanted to push that cat away and sit in its place lol :D Although they sidelined his character ( because well it was 2nd lead afterall) in Queen Seondeok, his role as Kim ChunChu was quite meaty and impressive one as well. I wish it was Kim Chun Chu's show, they could have done so much more with his character. Other than that I also liked him as Min Jae in Flames of Desire, he was very young back then but still managed to pull off such a gloomy,subdued, complex and a bit rebellious character flawlessly.  Regardless of some issues I had with his character in Master of Study, he was quite good there as well. His role ( though a supporting one only) of Jade Emperor in Arang and the Magistrate was especially a treat to the eyes after Yeo Woon's death ( sigh :( ) In the movie Seondal, the Man who sells River, his role wasn't intense but yeah it was quite refreshing and enjoyable one. He was absolutely adorable in movies Hearty Paws,and City of Fathers. Blind ( though  didn't exactly focus on his character much ) had an interesting character of him as well. It pretty much showed how teenagers typically behave these days lol. 4th Period Mystery and Joseon Magician were okayish. My favourite MVs / songs of him are T ARA- Lies, Ground with So Ji Sub and Park Shin Hye, Believe in Love with IU and Sullae with Rothy.  So all in all, with the exception of a couple of his projects I pretty much like anything and everything that has Yoo Seung Ho in it.

 

Unfortunately I didn't like his two last dramas, Ruler is as bad as I am not a robot IMO. Besides I haven't finished watching Ruler, I still have the final episode left. Remember was fantastic :D. It is his best post-army project in fact !. Paradoxically Remember made him lose self-confidence and go through a slump. Hence his disappeareance for a few months after the drama.  I also liked Imaginary cat and operation proposal ( I heared YSH hated OP ? ). I haven't watched Queen Seondeok though, it is the only drama left of him that I haven't watched ( it has 60+ episodes :unsure:). I don't mind long dramas but I am curious if YSH has a big role or not. I even wasted 50 hours on his weekend makjang chaebol drama, Flames of Desire. That drama was a headache with all the crazy chaebol antics that the writer pulled in :o.  Master of study is one of his best dramas ! He was amazing acting as a rebellious teen. As for his movies, my favourite ones are hearty paws, blind and the way home. I agree with you about 4 period mystery and Joseon magician for being OK.  My favourite Mvs of him are I don't love you by Urban Zakapa, Believe in love with IU, you from the same time by Naul.  YSH has good taste, I also like pretty much everything that has him in it. However I prefer more his earlier projects when he was still a child actor and a teen than the recent ones.  I hope next time he will have luck and meet a good writer and a good director. His long absence from the drama scene is starting to weight heavily. I wonder when he will come back ? Please YSH, come back with a project. It's been already 7 months.....

 

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16 hours ago, Berou said:

Yes but it is his minions' will to protect their master that precipitated his death and worsened the situation >>>> This I agree,Though they weren't wrong in their place but they shouldn't have taken matters into their own hands

His friends misunderstood and thought they were acting per YW's orders. >>>>  Why? clearly  because they didn't loved and trusted him enough.They don't deserve to be called his friends because love or friendship, nothing exists without trust. Even the likes of assassins knew YW would rather die than harm/ raise his sword against his friends ( the precise reason which made them attack his friends in the first place) something which the people who claimed to be his friends, who technically grew up with him failed to understand in all these years.

 YW didn't want to clear things and let them misunderstood him. He willingly took all the blame.>>>>>  Cho Rip's words made him  willingly take all the blames and give up on everything. A dying/ suicidal person really doesn't care about what he is being blamed with. He just wants the agony to end.

YW could have punished his minions when they attempted to poison his friend. But he didn't do it. >>>>>> Punish them for what?For trying to save his life from the friends who wanted to kill him? He wasn't pleased with the poisoning attempt at all and rushed to save Cho Rip the moment he found out he was in danger ( despite knowing Cho Rip wanted him dead ).

 When he dissolved the gang he was clear and told them to stop carrying swords, and  they should leave the swords behind. They didn't listen to him and planned to kill his friend Cho Rip to protect him. To me, this is a clear act of disobedience  even though the reason is justified. 

Technically after the dissolution of the gang they were free to do whatever they wanted even if that meant continuing to be what they were. His orders didn't mean much to them after the gang's official end and YW's resignation from being their leader. For me it was more of an act of loyalty than an act of disobedience. It was their choice to do whatever they wanted with their lives and even after YW's death they'd have continued being assassins, there was no stopping it. As for their planning to kill Cho Rip, its unfortunate that they were unsuccessful. I wanted to see Yang Cho Rip die a  1000 times more worse and painful death than YW's death because of  what he did to him. Served him right,

 

 

Unfortunately I didn't like his two last dramas, Ruler is as bad as I am not a robot IMO.

Bingo!! Same here. Though acting wise Ruler might have been difficult for him to act out but overall the drama could have been so much better. I'd have preferred if his character ended up with Hwa Gun. The moment she died that was it for me.

Besides I haven't finished watching Ruler, I still have the final episode left. Remember was fantastic :D. It is his best post-army project in fact !. Yep fully agree with this.:)

Paradoxically Remember made him lose self-confidence and go through a slump. Sigh.True, I also feel the same.

Hence his disappeareance for a few months after the drama.  I also liked Imaginary cat and operation proposal ( I heared YSH hated OP Yeah I also heard it and also read in an Interview that he didn't like melos. He said that melos are embarassing ). I haven't watched Queen Seondeok though, it is the only drama left of him that I haven't watched ( it has 60+ episodes :unsure:). I don't mind long dramas but I am curious if YSH has a big role or not. Well since he was a supporting character there so naturally more than 75-80% of the screen space went to the Queen and politics. His role though strong and a good one wasn't utilized to its fullest potential in all the glorification of the Queen and her fight against villains.

I even wasted 50 hours on his weekend makjang chaebol drama, Flames of Desire. That drama was a headache with all the crazy chaebol antics that the writer pulled in :o. That's where the fast forwarding buttons act as life savers lol. Even I got annoyed with an overdose of politics ( I found his stepmom's role interesting though )  but since I mainly stuck to his parts so it was kind of bearable.

 Master of study is one of his best dramas ! He was amazing acting as a rebellious teen. Yeah he totally was! But I wanted him to end up with Hyun Jung instead of Pulip. I was so glad that no one ended up with each other in the end lol. 

 As for his movies, my favourite ones are hearty paws, blind and the way home. I agree with you about 4 period mystery and Joseon magician for being OK.  My favourite Mvs of him are I don't love you by Urban Zakapa, Believe in love with IU, you from the same time by Naul.  YSH has good taste, I also like pretty much everything that has him in it. However I prefer more his earlier projects when he was still a child actor and a teen than the recent ones. Same pinch.I have a taste for intense, strong, engaging, deep/ tragic characters. Somehow his recent projects weren't that intense and engaging. All of his old projects are precious and amazing though.

I hope next time he will have luck and meet a good writer and a good director. Yeah hope so..

His long absence from the drama scene is starting to weight heavily. True that!  I wonder when he will come back ? Please YSH, come back with a project. It's been already 7 months.....

Yes YSH Oppa are you listening? Please come back soooon. We miss you a lot!

 

 

 

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