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[elisluvgeunscouple]

13 minutes ago, TeBe said:

I am not expert in History. Specially not the Korean one  but what I read about the 4TH king of Goreyo doesn't seem to be all bad. He was brutal while dealing with his enemies. However he did well as a king, of course it is my personal opinion. He reduced the power of nobles and gave more right to the common people. He established a system that was not based on belonging to a powerful clan , but those who showed more skills got the right to have high ranks. Of course the nobles after losing influence and power, they weren't all obedient and still and began to plot against Gwangjoo . That led him to eradicate all of his opponents. Including one of his brothers and his nephew. 

so if I lived in Goryeo I would have been a faithful fan of the 4th king 

Hae Soo-ya I hope you recall your History classes more clearly .. You are getting the poor all confused, devastated by losing you (his one and only person) and you are misjudging him for some things , he  never did. 

You are right, he wasnt that bad, he was cruel becoz he had killed all of his brothers. He ws cruel to his politic enemies. He was one of the best Georyo Kings, based on what I read.

[qwenli]

4 minutes ago, lovedrama11 said:

And am I imagining things or is HS checking out WS s lips in the almost kiss scene hehe 

Yes I kept thinking why was that makeup scene so hawt. Is it Lok acting, his chemistry with IU? Or the director's power? I guess maybe all of the above  but the lips thing is definitely the directors idea. Naught ! Haha

[junee22]

First of all..HAPPY 500 PAGES!!!! second..thanx to all who did the recaps and screenshots..I didn't watch the ep yet..but I have a little bit opinions here..

First..about HSs vision..maybe it's only her prejudice towards WS..because she already heard about WS ruthless behaviour and brutality. Remember when she hinted on Wook first?someone mentioned..why is she suspicious of Wook while the brutal one is So? And remember,she's just an ordinary girl whose history knowledge is only average..so she never convinced of who will be Gwangjong. But then again,when she saw WS at the rain ritual,she began to suspicious towards WS,and remembering all the rumors about WS that she heard before. And............she remembers that 4th king of Goryeo Gwangjong IS the 4th prince named WANG SO. I guess that's explained why she had those vision.

When HS scared to WS..I don't think she scared of him like in literally...maybe she afraid of what he would do to get to the throne,afraid that her friends and their brotherhood would torn apart. I couldn't explain it well..maybe @bebebisous33 and @briseis could explain in better words

oh..and even though I didn't watch this ep yet..for me this episode was jjang!!!

[ruzikie]

3 minutes ago, qwenli said:

Yes I kept thinking why was that makeup scene so hawt. Is it Lok acting, his chemistry with IU? Or the director's power? I guess maybe all of the above  but the lips thing is definitely the directors idea. Naught ! Haha

 She just checked his lips just in case some random gisaeng already ate those precious lips before she does

 

[luci13]

18 minutes ago, akinahana89 said:

 

 

Awww, I'm touched that I was being missed, @luci13! lol.

Work has been kicking my butt for the past week. I didn't have time to catch up on the thread and every time I had a moment, thirty more pages would appear. I'm still over 100 pages behind in catching up... I didn't even get to fully watch ep 7 with subs yet either! Huhuhu. T_T Much less work on my overdue reviews...

Anyone want to give me a quick update? What was the ep 7 part 2 special on Wednesday? How was the episode today? What's going on?! I saw some AWESOME still cuts of our So2 and I'm so eager to catch up. If only work could give me a break! (I also saw the re-aired episode 7 got a better rating! ^^)

Hahahaha I'm quite a good observer thus I know almost all people here and also know who seems to be missing out from the discussion XD 

Anyway, Episode 7 part 2 is mostly a recap from episode 1-7 as well as some history background since they might have targeted k-viewers who were on their Chuseok holiday last weekend.

As in tonight's episode, as you could see from the screencaps, we've got new look from So thanks to the 'concealer' Soo put on his face. and the the-almost-kiss proximity between our OTP. what else? Oh! Rain was finally pouring down from sky and Soo's suddenly got a vision that he's Gwangjong. hah! and the most anticipated one is the preview: the KISS! 

 

 

 

[hallyus]

4 minutes ago, ruzikie said:

@hallyus thanks for the screen caps. it's obvious that Hae Soo will change for sure and it will make Wang So confused because he's happy to see the rain comes after the rain ritual and he finally know Hae Soo is his strength and his light but those light will be suppressed and it starts from blue to red.

@ruzikie you're welcome! yeah the rain ritual is the turning point of So's feeling for sure, but not sure with Soo tho. I remember I read it here that the existence of Haesoo in Goryeo should be to soften So's sharp edge. I think Jimong knows, that it is her fate to be around So. There should be something to balance So, thus making Jimong to support Haesoo to be with So (in the preview I think I heard Jimong persuaded Soo about something she should do because she already helped So before).

[TeBe]

1 minute ago, elisluvgeunscouple said:

You are right, he wasnt that bad, he was cruel becoz he had killed all of his brothers. He ws cruel to the one that he thought will make georyo lose its glory. He was the best Georyo King ever , based on what I read.

Did he really kill ALL of his brothers? I can't find this information on the internet ...

[Ainee Etp]

30 minutes ago, elisluvgeunscouple said:

Gwangjong cruel face n eyes

 

 

This is the robe that Joong Kook (RM) wore? "I say Junki, you say awesome!"

Edited September 19, 2016 by LyraYoo
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[0ly40]

OST part 6:

 

[ChewyChocolate]

She checked his lips in the makeup session, found them too dry, added some lip balm and it worked, and his lips turned soft and nice. If she hadn't added lip balm, he would have cracked lips, dry and sore, and that kiss next episode would never ever happen. See, she started it all...

[lovedrama11]

I know this love story will not end well but I really really want a happy ending "sob""

[feignedreality]

I'm hoping someone subs the SBS version because I don't want to miss the scene after HS finished WS's make up and he turns all smexy proclaiming that HS is his & all that. Sucks that I get all excited watching via live streaming then I wake up and the DF version has a cut or worse, none of my favorite scenes. 

...And I just want to take a moment to acknowledge his royal hotness that is Lee Joon-gi. I swear, I swoon each time the camera pans to him then  goes in for a close up shot. 

[elisluvgeunscouple]

13 minutes ago, TeBe said:

Did he really kill ALL of his brothers? I can't find this information on the internet ...

The only I know is after the death of Taejo, the siblings were divided into group n have their own conspiracy to get the throne. And he killed his political enemies even they were called him brother...

[Gabi Bros]

1 minute ago, feignedreality said:

I'm hoping someone subs the SBS version because I don't want to miss the scene after HS finished WS's make up and he turns all smexy proclaiming that HS is his & all that. Sucks that I get all excited watching via live streaming then I wake up and the DF version has a cut or worse, none of my favorite scenes. 

I will sent you a link via private message where you can see the SBS version.  For the ones interested, send me a private message. 

[TeBe]

6 minutes ago, Ainee Etp said:

 

This is the robe that Joong Kook (RM) wore? "I say Junki, you say awesome!"

Make some noise 

[Diana Blanche]

IU and LJG...can they be more gorgeous? Tomorrow I have to keep next to my heart pills.

[Amanda Soo]

I screamed so many times during the make-up scene OMG. 

HaeSoo is going to tread carefully around 4th prince now but I'm sure there will be a turning point where she sees and feels his love for her - probably going to be a big event where he sacrifices himself/suffers along with her willingly. 

It's beautiful to see him finally acknowledging his love for her, and bravely proclaiming it to her. 

Now I can't wait to see him get all jealous and huffy ^.^

[elisluvgeunscouple]

13 minutes ago, TeBe said:

Make some noise 

Really? I didnt notice it lol,

I mean this one? 

JUn Ki said "that was mine" lol

[Dr_Fangirl]

3 minutes ago, Diana Blanche said:

IU and LJG...can they be more gorgeous? Tomorrow I have to keep next to my heart pills.

 

 lucky you

i don't even have a heart

his royal highness stole it and refused to give it back.

[brielover]

I touched on this in another forum but thought I would share here as well. 

The premise is that Hae Soo is not just some girl from thd 21st century randomly chosen to go back in time, but that she is a reincarnation of the founding of Korea itself - whoever she chooses to give her heart to will become the king that guarantees the success of the new nation of Goryeo. 

This theory stems from her names - Go Ha Jin and Hae Su- and from her association with water. 

Korea's foundation myth is built on the founding of Goguryeo, the kingdom preceding Goryeo. (Korea takes its name from Goryeo which in turn took its name from Goguryeo). 

There are two versions, but basically the river god's daughter, Yuhwa, is found in or by the water by Hae Mo Su, she marries him and gives birth to Jumong who founds the kingdom of Goguryeo. Another version has her marrying but leaving him before granting her heart to another and then giving birth to Jumong. In effect, whoever she chooses to love becomes the father of the nation. 

I wouldn't have paid much attention to this myth except for a few things. One is that Hae Su is associated with water like the river king's daughter. She falls into water, appears almost miraculously in the Goryeo baths, which as we saw is right on the river/hot springs, has visions in water, is first seen by all the princes (all potential heirs to the throne) in the water, and even Wang So must see her in a later scene - as if the first water appearance had left him out so she has to go re-do it - emerging from the water of the baths and she later splashes Wang So with water - like a baptism - while watering plants. Consequential scenes from previews - the rain, possible break up with Wook, the boat with So - also stay in tune with this water symbolism. I think we're supposed to draw a connection between Hae Su and the river god's daughter Yuhwa. Whoever she chooses will become the leader of the nation. This is perhaps also highlighted by the princes falling in love with her - she represents the lifeblood - water - of the land. 

This is emphasized by her name. The original royal family of Gogureo were the Haes, stemming as said from Hae Mo Su and Yuhwa. Twice we are told that Hae Su belongs to the Hae Ha Jin clan. So she's a Hae, and her modern time name is Ha Jin.  But she's Go Ha Jin not Hae Ha Jin in modern times, so there's a glitch there, until a little research reveals that many of the royal Hae family took the royal name  Go. So when we're told by Hae Su's relatives that the clan name is Hae Ha Jin, it's actually the same name as Go Ha Jin, her name in the future. 

I like all these associations because it layers the story with myth, legend and a history that both precedes and post-dates Goryeo, tying in the Goryeo events with ancient Goguryeo and present day Korea. The throughline is our main character, Hae Su/Go Ha Jin. Her first incarnation was likely as the river god's daughter, Yuhwa, or a daughter of Hae Mo Su and Yuhwa, who reincarnates as Hae Su and eventually Go Ha Jin, a cosmetologist from the 21st century. Her purpose is to choose the best founder for the fledgeling nation. All subliminal, of course, but it's giving the story a texture I hadn't thought about previously, as well as a context for the otherwise somewhat awkward bath scene in the first episode. She's meant to be found in the water a la the river god's daughter by possible contenders to the throne - the scriptwriter took that and gave us the semi-erotic bath scene. I appreciate that scene so much more now!

Edit to add: Since I posted, I have watched episode 8 with subs.  I found it interesting that Su has two romantic encounters with each of her potentials.  The first is with Wook in a cave with a "covered well".  Thinking about the placement of water, this water is still, protected, controlled, covered up underground. This is quite possibly a metaphor for the life Wook offers Su, a metaphor reinforced by his scar-covering bracelet.  Compare this to her encounter with So in the boat.  While the water would normally be free-flowing, it is a little muddy, becalming the ship where these two accidentally lie together, equals.  All that water needs, however, is a little rain to float the boat.  And we get rain at the end of the episode - so this particular So-Su "ship" seems ready to sail.  I noticed too that Su says in this episode that what she wants most is not to be controlled.  So of the two, protection or freedom, I think her choice is clear even if she is only just beginning to realize it this episode.

Bluemoony added that since we know Mu and Yo will be short-lived kings before So, it doesn't seem coincidental in light of the river-daughter imagery that she throws water on Mu and spills tea on Yo aside from "watering" So in the garden.  She doesn't spill anything on any of the other princes.