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21 hours ago, QSD said:

Wish I have lots of space so I can do gorgeous gifs like above.

 

It must be frustrating. Especially since you're good at it: you catch well the details and pick the right emotions.:)

 

21 hours ago, QSD said:

I love this scene and its soundtrack, so beautiful.  YJ purposely to have their new IDs as a married couple coz she has no family left for leaving her home.  WB is surprised that she grabbing his arm when she needs support from him.

 

He seemed ready to go for this new life without any hesitation. She seemed a little bit anxious thought she couldn't really go back, so she took his arm to get some support. 

Which makes sense: he was alone for so long, since he left his parents, so he wanted to settle, even in the middle of chaos. 

While she  was forced to fly away. She still left behind her maid, her coworkers, etc...

 

One thing that bothered me though is that she took a japanese woman identity. I got that she needed to hide but would have prefered if she pretended to be chinese instead. It felt like she didn't want to assume the desire to cut completely ties with her past. As if she was still in the middle of both identities, hesitating. 

 

11 hours ago, QSD said:

WB will have hard time this coming week.

 

Me too! :tears:

He cares about all his team but Nam Ok has a special place: he's basically his guardian angel. If anything happens to him, he will go mad. 

But all those teasing about who he's going to die first and follow the other in paradise was meant to catch up on them at one point.

I know that it would be hard for me to let go of him because he was here from the start: the 1st scene actually.

 

Their last happy time!:tears:

 

 

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I dont remember seeing those pics before: last episode for those characters?:tears:

 

 

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The pics are new, which coming this week.

 

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@QSD Thank you for the confirmation.

 

I don't know what to make of the fact that there will be  only one  episode left after this week. :tears:

Maybe MBC should have aired everything on one go. Maybe it's better to have more time to cope with our feelings. To delay the conclusion will make things more easy on us. 

I just know that i never have been so anxious since i thought KWB was going to die...

Whatever happens, please writer keep safe our lovely otp! :heart:

 

 

    

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I watched live because i was too anxious but i was very wrong: it wrecked me completely. 

It was SO bleak, SO bleak, and desperate that i really don't know how i'm going to watch it again with subs.:tears:

 

It was blood bath on a scale even higher that i thought it was going to be.:tears:

 

KWB is literally destroyed. :heartbreak:

The last minutes of ep 19  reached for him an intensity in violence from which he can not go back. I mean he always has been a violent man but what he did was on Matsura's level of hate. It felt more horrible than the violent attack against the japanese general in his car after Esther's death  when he shoot him in the legs to stop him from running  and provoked the explosion of the car. His rage was this time so personal: YJT nailed the madness in his desire of revenge.     

 

Ep 19 was all about his friendship with Nam Ok. A lot of flashbacks showed how they met and how they become friends until the end of their relationship.   

It wasn't only  the most important relationship in KWB's life, It was part of his identity.

When he lost it, it felt like something collapsed in him. 

Everything about this episode was frustrating  but the end of their relationship was the worst because of the distance between them.  

 

Nam Ok was the true hero of the double episode and in a certain way of the drama too, on the same scale as KWB. I don't see how the PD can top his scenes in the police station and in the church. His wrath and the devastation he caused were on another level. 

 

Young jin was on KWB's side, supportive and protective  but couldn't really do anything for him. The anger and the pain were too intense. They both were forced to rely on Fukuda who had a change of her heart, too quickly introduced for my taste, after getting a letter form Hiroshi.

Obviously Hiroshi confirmed that he wasn't responsible of his father's death and asked him to stay in touch with Young Jin. Miki helped him to reach her.

KWB hated clearly receiving his help but couldn't have done few things without him and owes him a lot.

Fukuda is still fond of Young Jin: he can not help but smiles at her when she (rarely given the circumstances) smiles at him. He's just happy to be around her and to help her without asking anything in return.

 

Putting the trailer for the last episode under spoilers tags because it contains MAJOR spoilers.

I think it's safe to say that it won't be a happy ending.

 

Spoiler

 

 

A magor big up to the cast for being adorable and trying to cheer us! :heart:

 

 

 

     

  

 

         

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EDIT:  The part 10 of the  OST has been already posted few times and wasn't for this week so i removed it.

Instead i'm adding this article from The Korea Times that shows how the drama and reality collides.

Interesting debate which put the place of KWB in the history of the country and the controversy in making a drama about him more clear. 

I'm not an historian but after the drama showed him as a real hero of independence, i'm all for him to get this final recognition.

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The Korea Times

July. 8. 2019

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Late General Kim Won-bong (1898-1958). Korea Times file

By Jung Da-min

The Ministry of National Defense said Monday it was reviewing a request from its research arm to include details of Kim Won-bong's fight for Korea's independence in the historical records of the Korean military on its official website.

Kim was the leader of a secret society fighting for independence. He and his associates became undercover operatives for the Korean provisional government in China from the late 1930s to early 1940s. But Kim later went to North Korea, where he earned commendations from Pyongyang for his efforts in the Korean War.

"The ministry understands there is a need to record the late Kim Won-bong's activities if they turn out to be based on historical facts," ministry spokeswoman Choi Hyun-soo told reporters in a briefing at the ministry's headquarters in Yongsan-gu, Seoul. 

A request was made last year by the Institute for Military History for the current history on the ministry website to be revised to include some facts about Kim's activities including his creation of the anti-Japanese Korean Volunteer Corps in 1938 in Wuhan, China. Kim was later appointed deputy commander of the Korean Liberation Army in 1942 and served until 1945. 

Currently, the ministry's records only state certain facts such as those on the late independence activist Ahn Jung-geun and his assassination of then-Japanese Resident-General Hirobumi Ito in 1909, or the foundation of the provisional government in 1919, in the history before the 1945 liberation of Korea from colonial rule.

The historical assessment on Kim, however, remains controversial as he became a North Korean military commander in 1948 and fought against South Korea during the 1950-53 Korean War. He was said to have helped strengthen Kim Il-sung's regime in North Korea before being purged in 1958.

Controversy surrounding Kim has recently resurfaced following President Moon Jae-in's June 6 Memorial Day speech at Seoul National Cemetery, where he gave credit to him for his activities. 

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President Moon Jae-in gives a speech at a ceremony marking the 64th Memorial Day (June 6) at the National Cemetery in Seoul, last Thursday. Yonhap


"In the last five years before Japan's surrender in 1945, the Korean Provisional Government achieved the coalition of the left and right in Chongqing, China and established the Korean Liberation Army. …The Korean Liberation Army had finally mustered strength for the independence movement, after incorporating the Korean Youth Battlefield Mission Corps, the anarchist forces and the Korean Volunteer Corps led by Yaksan (Kim's pen name) Kim Won-bong into it," Moon said last Thursday during his Memorial Day address. 

Conservative lawmakers have slammed Moon.

Meanwhile, a poll by Realmeter conducted on 501 adults last Friday showed that 42.6 percent supported the recognition of Kim for his contribution to the anti-Japanese movement, while 39.9 percent opposed it citing Kim's contribution to the then-North Korean government. 

The support was down 7.3 percentage points from another poll two months earlier, while the disapproval rate was up 7.3 percentage points at that time.

The latest poll has a plus or minus 4.4 percentage points of margin of error with a 95 percent of confidence level. 

   

  

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I like the scene when Hiroshi met YJ, he planned everything to kill YJ, but at the end he couldn’t do it. He really love YJ and felt devastated about it. The actor portrayed it marvelously. :bawling:

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I just started again with episode 8, so | can watch at least one episode every day till the end next week .

This drama is not fit for patiently waiting a week to watch one by one.

 

I am from Amsterdam: I wish our streetcars would show up as frequently as they do on this location !

They come every second :)

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22 hours ago, titania1000 said:

EDIT:  The part 10 of the  OST has been already posted few times and wasn't for this week so i removed it.

Instead i'm adding this article from The Korea Times that shows how the drama and reality collides.

Interesting debate which put the place of KWB in the history of the country and the controversy in making a drama about him more clear. 

I'm not an historian but after the drama showed him as a real hero of independence, i'm all for him to get this final recognition.

   

  

There has been a lot of comments on naver since the drama aired, criticising mbc for screening such a drama and showing KWB as a hero whom they view as responsible for the korean war after independence, and a contributor to North Korea. Guess KWB is indeed a controversial figure in Korea. I'm not familiar with Korean history, so I can't comment much about that. 

 

Historically, based on wikipedia's entry, KWB did not set foot in Korea. He is mainly active in China, and is a man behind the veil, and do not personally execute the plan. He was married to an independent activist in 1931, but his wife passed on towards the end of the 2nd world war.

 

I thought that Yimong's time period would stretched till the end of WW2, but looks like they are going to end before the start of it.

 

Spoiler

Kim Nam Ok's final moment is based on the real event that happened in the 1920s. Kim Sang Ok bombed the Jongno Police Station, and eventually took his own life.

http://koreajoongangdaily.joins.com/news/article/article.aspx?aid=2891980

 

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Thanks for updating.  I have been busy.

 

Looks like it's gonna break more hearts in the finale.next week.  As much as I have predicted YJ"s tragic ending from the beginning, still it's melancholic seeing how it unfolding.

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51 minutes ago, QSD said:

Thanks for updating.  I have been busy.

 

Looks like it's gonna break more hearts in the finale.next week.  As much as I have predicted YJ"s tragic ending from the beginning, still it's melancholic seeing how it unfolding.

 

 

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Looking at the picture I saw during the filming, I don't think she will end tragically.  Looking at how the scriptwriter has the habit of killing the male lead, KWB will probably end tragically even though he survived historically. I don't think anyone else will be injured because looking at the last filming group picture, the only 2 persons with wet outfit are LYJ and KWB. Guess this is the problem with releasing too many filming pictures to the public for pre-produced drama :) I thought they should at least kill off Matsura. What's the point of the story having all the independent activist dead and the other side all up and running healthily.

 

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Looking at the picture I saw during the filming, I don't think she will end tragically.  Looking at how the scriptwriter has the habit of killing the male lead, KWB will probably end tragically even though he survived historically. I don't think anyone else will be injured because looking at the last filming group picture, the only 2 persons with wet outfit are LYJ and KWB. Guess this is the problem with releasing too many filming pictures to the public for pre-produced drama :) I thought they should at least kill off Matsura. What's the point of the story having all the independent activist dead and the other side all up and running healthily.

 

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I also don’t think Matsuura should survive in the end, most likely they would kill him off.  At least it is what I expect to see YJ doing something about him.

 

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On 7/7/2019 at 6:08 PM, 12blbl said:

I like the scene when Hiroshi met YJ, he planned everything to kill YJ, but at the end he couldn’t do it. He really love YJ and felt devastated about it. The actor portrayed it marvelously. :bawling:

 

That was indeed such a good scene despite its sadness.

I loved every bit of nuance and ambivalence in the acting and writing. Both actors made it superb.

It was the best part of Young Jin's arc. While fighting on KWB's side, she seemed more and more empowered and confident that she was doing the right thing until she faced the contradictions and consequences of her actions. It didn't shake her convictions but it forced her to admit that she was more involved with her enemy that she wanted to believe.    

 

On 7/7/2019 at 8:38 PM, hank marvin said:

I just started again with episode 8, so | can watch at least one episode every day till the end next week .

This drama is not fit for patiently waiting a week to watch one by one.

 

I am from Amsterdam: I wish our streetcars would show up as frequently as they do on this location !

They come every second :)

 

You're so lucky! 

I wish i could watched it again! At least the happy parts because there were a lot of them.

I think the streets scenes were not real: not sure but it seems to me studio scenes.       

 

17 hours ago, blu76off said:

There has been a lot of comments on naver since the drama aired, criticising mbc for screening such a drama and showing KWB as a hero whom they view as responsible for the korean war after independence, and a contributor to North Korea. Guess KWB is indeed a controversial figure in Korea. I'm not familiar with Korean history, so I can't comment much about that. 

 

Historically, based on wikipedia's entry, KWB did not set foot in Korea. He is mainly active in China, and is a man behind the veil, and do not personally execute the plan. He was married to an independent activist in 1931, but his wife passed on towards the end of the 2nd world war.

 

I thought that Yimong's time period would stretched till the end of WW2, but looks like they are going to end before the start of it.

 

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Kim Nam Ok's final moment is based on the real event that happened in the 1920s. Kim Sang Ok bombed the Jongno Police Station, and eventually took his own life.

http://koreajoongangdaily.joins.com/news/article/article.aspx?aid=2891980

 

 

The controversy probably explained the ratings: i've been following the numbers but never posted them because they were dropping each week which was depressing. 

I'll definitely do some research: read some books after the drama ends to get a clearest picture of the period, the man and his story. 

I've been completely drawn to KWB because i come from a country who suffered long colonialism and fought a very violent independence war to be freed. All the families that i know have a story to tell about this war and mine is concerned too. 

We had different groups with different strategies like in SK but the most  organized rebel group who lead mostly the resistance and won the war was on the same violent line as The Heroic Corps. The Soviet Union was also a great support of our cause  though the country didn't end up communist after the war but we stayed close of socialist values.   

It was a blood bath too in the end. A lot of civilians lost their lives. 

To this day, it's still a difficult issue to talk about: our present relationship with the ex colonizer is very complicated.

So i totally get why it's so problematic to raise the question of KWB's place while the relationship with NK is still a work in progress.  

 

I maybe wrong for taking sides but i really think what we saw of his commitment through the drama makes KWB a true hero who deserves to be treated as one.             

 

14 hours ago, QSD said:

Thanks for updating.  I have been busy.

 

Looks like it's gonna break more hearts in the finale.next week.  As much as I have predicted YJ"s tragic ending from the beginning, still it's melancholic seeing how it unfolding.

 

Good to see you back!

Matsuura is a goner for sure: I hope KWB will kill him a horrible way. 

Miki is a question mark based on how sudden the attack on the club appears to be: she knows it's happening but does she have time to hide and escape?

I don't know for Fukuda: i need to rewatch the last eps with subs to make my mind about what to think of him...   

 

13 hours ago, blu76off said:

 

 

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Looking at the picture I saw during the filming, I don't think she will end tragically.  Looking at how the scriptwriter has the habit of killing the male lead, KWB will probably end tragically even though he survived historically. I don't think anyone else will be injured because looking at the last filming group picture, the only 2 persons with wet outfit are LYJ and KWB. Guess this is the problem with releasing too many filming pictures to the public for pre-produced drama :) I thought they should at least kill off Matsura. What's the point of the story having all the independent activist dead and the other side all up and running healthily.

 

 

LYW and YJT during the press conf hinted that his fate might be changed but if their story ends on their death then it's like all would have been for nothing and i can't accept it despite the trailer. 

I want them to fly away to Manchuria and live in rural setting with the rest of Yoo Tae Joon's people, training new fighters until independence comes.

All the secondary and supporting cast has been decimated: i think it's enough.    

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Glad they're still good friends.  I think whether it's YJ's relationship with her father or someone else, or WB's connection with Nam Ok/group, it’s the focal point in DD.

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