Shiori Me Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 A key of memory for Gwangjong. The importance of history maybe also a key to the happy ending? My thoughts revolve in every direction. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeunXK Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 Spoiler c as labeled 20 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shinaabby Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 9 minutes ago, Shiori Me said: Red Riding Hood was the story that Hae Soo Gwangjong has told. That could be a key. 1 minute ago, Shiori Me said: A key of memory for Gwangjong. The importance of history maybe also a key to the happy ending? My thoughts revolve in every direction. Hmm.. I dont quite understand what you mean. can you explain further??? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shiori Me Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 Read the story of Red Riding Hood. And then put this story on this story. It is also sufficient to read the contents of Red Riding Hood. This is the story I have connected with Hae Soo and Wang So. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Immortal_Angel Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 1 hour ago, violet90 said: in BBJX from 10 to 5 when RX miscarriage and shorten to 8 month when she leaves 4th because she just give up with her life... so my take is Soo don't even survive the 1 year with Jung... Ah true and also maybe when shes dying she regret not saying I love you to WS. (I'm pretty sure up to now she never told him that right? Or maybe she did and I missed it cause so far I know she just said to him do you still love me, etc but she never once said it to him right? Man HS is gonna die regretting alot of things 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shiori Me Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 At the moment, I'm doing thought games 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
may6 Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 17 minutes ago, bluesunny3 said: So I've just been sucked into the Scarlet Heart Ryeo world from all the ads I've seen on Facebook! I pride myself on my self control but what should have been 1 hour of my life turned into 8!...then the next day, I missed my classes to completely catch up! Seriously, what is wrong with me?!!?! Is this normal?! anyway, I see lots of hate on Hae Soo and I just want to know why?!?! Maybe it's because I've watched 17 episodes in 2 days..granted she's not the smartest person to be sent back....but a lot of what wang so did to her in the beginning (the scene where he tells the assassin to kill her, the multiple times he choked her, when she made the choice to enter the palace so no one would be killed and Prince So was like "whatever...she made her choice...bye," after the birthday scene when he tells her he hates the way she looks at him, when Prince So stayed mad at her for looking at him without his mask on but forgave everyone else).....when he was still mad at her and ignoring her during the time of the rain ceremony scene and she still helped him cover his scar!!!!!......all those scenes are still fresh in my mind. I can totally see why she took a long time to fall for prince so...the fact the he treated her so cruelly and she was still kind to him... willing to help him was probably what made him fall in love with her in the first place...Maybe we, as the audience can see his feelings and intentions, but she couldn't (too busy trying to survive in Goryeo?). In her eyes, he went from disliking her to all but claiming her his in span of a day!..(plus wook is mad handsome and he was super nice to her...at first anyway:(......She wasn't going to just fall into So's arms.... I love Prince So....MY GOD, I love that man.....but did everyone just forget how he treated her in the beginning? He MORE than made up for it in the middle but it's so devastating to see him treating her coldly again in the next episode:( This is my take on their interactions...I honestly do think that it was love at first sight for him ,but since he was regarded as the lone wolf , a terrible guy capable of so much violence.. and to top it off his low self esteem and poor social skills...he just choose to ignore it ...how could HS ...a pretty upper high class lady of the nobility will ever came to consider him far more love him...he just choose to ignore his initial attraction for preservation...he wouldn't be able to recover if we were to be rejected by a woman like his mother rejected him... he knew he was not worthy by the social standing and demands of that particular era...he wasn't even consider a prince or an eligible bachelor...so for WS it was better to keep away and not fuel the fondness...the only time that i though he was acting cruel to her was when he told the monk to get rid of her ...but to his credit ..if you look at LJK expression on that particular scene you can see he is concern ...i read that scene as him surprise by her unexpected appearance ...he took a risk...perhaps trusting that the monk was not going to truly hurt her for if he were, he would have done something by now and the monk took too long ...and he WS wanted to have a witness for interrogation...the matter of whether he was able to stay in Songak or return to shinju as a hostage depended on it..he was desperate...and she ruin the momentum of him getting that ...i don't what version you watch but when Soo bit the monk and he was going to be head her, So became more proactive ...he was going to help her but WW was faster and ended up killing the monk....the other actions are defense mechanisms...when he was forceful with her face ...he was mad ...not particularly getleman like behavior ...but he thought he had lost his chance of ever staying in the capital...i don't see that as a cruel act...just something that spur in the moment and to intimidate her into telling her all she knew...Ws is not very patient when he is desperate... the don't look at my face ...don't show up in front of me...ect..are all i don't like your pity ...and because i might like you in a romantic sense ... that hurts me even more....because that makes me know that i'm unworthy to love you ...i can't love you because of this scar...ect..and he choose to ignore her marriage at first because deep down he knew there was nothing he could do to persuade his father not to marry Soo ...and also because like i said it was easier to ignore his feelings when he thought all hope to woo her was lost to begin with...so i don't think he was particularly cruel with her ,which is why she always came back to him...looked actively for him...a argued with him , and talked back to him without feeling threatened...oh sorry my grammar is probably bad ,but i just wanted to share that... 19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
violet90 Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 i think the preview is misleading us.... 1. the scene where WW kneeling is obviously before So know that WW have an 'affair' with Soo and its So way to get revenge cause making him look bad in Soo eyes... 2. Soo will collapse again knowing that So even go as far as doing that to get to WW (this one is really So fault he should make a list who's bad and evil in palace and give that to Soo) 3. WW will know about Soo want to go out from palace and do his last promise that he did to get her out from palace before.. and when he confess you can see his face is pale and beat up.. i think he goes to prison.. 4. WW will confess that in order to get Soo out cause this one will make So goes crazy not because of their love affair but WW got something that So cherish the most first.. 5. Soo will granted permission to leave the palace and she will slowly dying in Jung home.. what amazing is its just the same with BBJX.. WW will go to prison just like 8th on the name of treason.. Soo will go out from palace with Jung , BA probably going out too as he want to be free after WH death... and KG with the snake on palace.. NOT EVEN 1 PERSON HAVE A HAPPY ENDING!!! WHERE THE HELL IS HEALING PART????? 22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceda209 Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 You guys are so brave. I haven’t found the courage to watch. I’m terrified. I napped 3 times after I got home from work to avoid watching episode 17, but then that didn’t keep me from reading all the spoilers here. My husband who is also obsessed (to the point of no return) didn’t bother to wake me up so we can watch it together. He’s scared too LOL! We are both so emotionally invested in MLSHR & nervous about how things will unfold. It’s the second kdrama we watched from episode 1 up until now. The last one was Chuno. Usually we would start, then he either drops the drama half way or I do. And, surprisingly, we’ve had several discussions about MLSHR & actually agreed on almost all things. The last kdrama we tried watching together (Doctor’s Crush), we got into a heated debate & he ended up dropping the drama LOL! Though I haven't watch the last 2 episodes, my take on So being upset is maybe he's doing it for Soo. After finding out that Soo & Wook even agreed to get married, he thinks Soo will be happier with Wook. I'm trying to think positive here. 22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jadecoral Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 59 minutes ago, sosooyah19 said: but i mean not to wook at least.. but i guess in the preview she admitted that she was indeed accepted wook back then,,,, *sigh* my weak heart cant take it anymore, esp when WS said not to see her anymore... after all this time? WS seriously? its in the past? 0_0 I hear you...it's in the past!! My advice to Wang So: 21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabi Bros Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 If Wohee is killed for being a traitor, we will loose Baek Ah in the process. His soul will die with WoHee and the relationship with Wang So will be destroyed. Praying for the best. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
violet90 Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 5 minutes ago, Immortal_Angel said: Ah true and also maybe when shes dying she regret not saying I love you to WS. (I'm pretty sure up to now she never told him that right? Or maybe she did and I missed it cause so far I know she just said to him do you still love me, etc but she never once said it to him right? Man HS is gonna die regretting alot of things i don't think so... when Soo leaves palace she leave EVERYTHING except the memory of them being happy together... the only regret that she will have is not seeing 4th before she dying... the one with so many regret will be So.. everything he do later on will be on his ego and blindly jealousy.. it will lead to their separation and Soo death too.. 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shiori Me Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 I can not stand the idea that Yeon Hwa escaped unpunished. 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post yuhotarubi Posted October 25, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted October 25, 2016 Sigh, I still can't bring myself to watch ep 18, but I will say this HS and WS really need to break up now, I love them together so much, I love their story and their romance and how they developed but. Right now ? Everything seems to be going downhill and into the valley of misery. HS is just way too idealistic and romantic that she can't even comprehend the reason CR was executed for, she's always so harsh on WS cause she wants him to be the good king with nothing bad on his record and completely different from the one she read about, she loves him and she doesn't want to feel disappointed about him in any way possible, I'd say she wants to leave cause she doesn't want the day when she might hate him to come. WS on the other hand is becoming way too obsessive about her, he doesn't want her to think about anyone other than him, he doesn't want her to care about anyone other than him, he wants her to understand him no matter what, to side with him no matter what, his forced marriage with YH made this even worse by taking away his hopes of a happy life with HS since he's becoming less and less tolerant towards others, he's under soo much pressure and doesn't know how to release it. This is just one big unhealthy relationship for both of them, they were million times better before WS became king, but oh well history needs to happen. But I'm gonna say it again, if the writer's gonna make WS mad at HS and break up with her because of her past relationship with WW or if he sleeps with YH just to hurt HS, then this is not WS anymore to me but just a new character altogether and I'm certainly not willing to give him any excuse for this. This drama better have an ending that makes me want to watch it again, cause I hate regretting all my hours spent watching and thinking about this show. 27 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Novijka1 Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 54 minutes ago, syeramy said: It is 3.00 a.m now in my country. I couldn't sleep even though I keep on yawning and yawning. I wanted to watch yesterday episode, so I checking on the raw. I don't understand a word but my heart suddenly feeling so pain. After all, the trusted wall being build up, just a stone hit it, the wall collapse on the ground. It shattered all over the ground that makes it hard to build again. Everything has to start from scratch. I believe the throne is haunted and cursed. Everyone who sits (except Taejo) become coward, paranoid and ruthless. Hae soo. People blame her insane reasoning that doesn't make sense. They started to question her action. Her trust. Her heart. I trust Hae soo until one point I realise how real this drama is. It has consumed me and literally makes me dump my real life and went back to Goryeo every single time I watched it. She got heart problem, she couldn't take any more impact. Only she knows how it feels. I just hope she leaves the palace and dies peacefully. She needs it. Her 21st-century life tortured her and her Goryeo life makes her even suffer. I want to trust her. Wang so. The seat surely haunted. People tried to get to you and use you. You have to be strong. Don't dwell on such emotions. You already wore out. You want to live peace and quiet life but end up put on the scary and ruthless mask to protect your loved one. They know your weaknesses and you let them use it against you. Being ruthless does not mean you strong. I wanted to trust you PD-nim but you keep ignoring me, my wish. You said the journey will be sad, but the ending will be happy. I want to track back the statement soooo bad, but I couldn't find it. www.dramalove.tv subtitles 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soereey Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 1 hour ago, sweetpealover said: I bet the Dead Bird has something to do with Yeon Hwa turning on her Brother. And soon Wook will turn on her to save his own life. But the Truth comes out sooner or later, let it be sooner for our star-crossed Lovers. Also, I wonder what HaeSoo was planning on doing with all those copies of the poem? first thing popped up in my mind when i saw the stack of poems in soo's box was that she's going to use them as wallpapers in her new room @ jung's residence. it is almost sunrise & i just finished backreading. my head is spinning but my mind is still racing... i need my paracetamol now. 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy78 Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 i feel so very sad...at least she was honest...told him she liked somebody...Wj will be back with a document from the former king ...Hs will leave the palace...i only hope WS will realise the truth about that snake and her evil stupid brother...what they did to HS 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonlover399993 Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 1 hour ago, briseis said: Moon Lovers: Scarlet Heart Ryeo Episode 19 Preview “From now on, I do not wish to ever see you again.” Everything is going to hell, to all 18 levels of it to be precise, including 18 episodes of Wang So’s character development, or at least it seems so from the preview for episode 19. The fact that WS would actually abandon Soo because he learns that she was “engaged” to Wook is just PLAIN BAD WRITING and it’s only ruining his character as such choice on his part makes no narrative sense whatsoever. 10 FREAKING years ago Soo had confessed to him that she loved someone else, he hadn’t minded then, 6 years ago he didn’t mind when she told him it wasn’t Jung, FOR 10 FREAKING YEARS HE HAVEN’T GIVEN A DAMN, SO WHY THE 18 HELLS SHOULD HE START NOW?! I think I will simply selectively forget that something like this will ever happpen. The second thing is that HS’s whole past relationship with Wook is so ineffective as something that would inspire in So mad jealousy because it was so impotent and platonic from the very beginning. On the other hand, RX’s relationship with the 8th Prince in the novel/cdrama was a torrid affair and their trysts were much more physical and chemistry-charged than her encounters with the 4th Prince (they even made-out on a dirty ground!).And there is HS WHO NEVER EVEN KISSED WOOK! SO’S BEEN HER FIRST KISS, HER FIRST LOVER, HER FIRST EVERYTHING. Plus in all those 18 episodes, HE HAS NEVER EVER BEEN JEALOUS BEFORE! The writer has changed the story so much, but most of all she has CHANGED THE CHARACTERS WHO ARE DIAMETRICAL OPPOSITES TO THE ONES IN THE NOVEL, PARTICULARLY SO. Now it appears, that she will be transplating Yinzhen’s brain into So’s head in the last 2 episodes and that simply IS NOT RIGHT, HE DESERVES BETTER. Now, WHERE IS MY MISCARRIAGE PLOT?! This show made me into such a masochist THAT I SIMPLY NEED THAT MISCARRIAGE PLOT! By the way if So sleeps with YH before HS’S death, IN THAT MOMENT THIS DRAMA WILL BE OFFICIALLY OVER FOR ME! Because this would be another thing that would go against 18 episodes of character development, and So would never do that. Come one, show, Queen Daemok didn’t get pregnant until 955, there is still enough time for So to die way before THAT! But perhaps, this is another one in the series of misleading previews and this all is just a huge misunderstanding (please, drama gods!). This made me laugh when I read it! HAHA I'm sorry but this is so true. I learned new things about myself after watching this drama near its end 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 40somethingahjumma Posted October 25, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted October 25, 2016 Man, So looks absolutely evil in that preview... Muhahaha... I love it! It isn't as if Uk didn't have it coming. Well, I did say last night that if people push So too much, he will push back and much, much harder. He's a fighter through and through. LJG has always looked like an anime character to me but that King eyeliner takes it up a notch or two. The previews are so superbly done, I have to say. The episode hasn't been shown and people are already up in arms over the next episode. LOL. Honestly, this show really does such a good job getting a rise out of people, you'd almost think the writer was an evil genius. Week after week I wake up to so much outpouring of anger and grief. It's just amazing how much people are attached to this show and yet divides people along such clear lines. When you think about it, it's quite an achievement. 39 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larinalove Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 I honestly, truly, sincerely hope to God they won't make WS sleep with YH just because he finds out about WW and HS and for whatever reason he feels betrayed. I actually haven't even thought about it until I've read some of your comments here, it's not the typical k-drama approach and they didn't even make HS kiss WW so I am still hoping they won't be as cruel as that. If it happens, to me that would tarnish and butcher their love so much that I would not look at it the same way ever again. I don't think they're that brave or daring, they would have had to think about the fans reaction but it's still a possibility, one that I hope terribly it won't happen because I will be DONE with everything that WS was, is and will be because even historically they didn't have children for years, yes, I know the consummation might happen unrelated to the pregnancy that will happen later but still, just thinking it as a possibility makes me angry. 19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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