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  1. 2 hours ago, holyfea said:

     

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    Now i'm thinking about 3 "entire family" victims in ep 1.. If the victims are step dad, Jaemin and sister. So where was eomma at that time?

     

     

    The death of the "entire family" is very murky.  Mr. Kim calls Jae Hoon's mom after the school bunny incident and he says to her on the phone  "Your son"  so it appears Jae Hoon was not his bio child and he didin't think of him like that. Also, are we sure Mr Kim is married to Jae Hoon's mom or is she house keeping? Not likely since she is still running her florist shop. So she probably is married to Mr. Kim, but are the little boy and little girl her children too? Or did she marry a widower? Maybe she met him through the church? We do see her in the kitchen doing the dishs (or it appears to be hear from the back.)  And, we see her start strangling Jae Hoon when he tried to bury his kid brother alive.   But the detective says the "entire family" were killed  and we see the picture three shrouded bodies.   But we also know Jae Hoon's mother survives, we know she is the florist  becasue she keeps flashing back to the scene where she strangles him.  But we don't see her at the police station during the interrogation, and Jae Hoon seems to be on his own. Which is also strange if she is alive but  It could be she had a psychological breakdown at the time and gave Jae Hoon up for adoption to a church family.   But at what point did she start to raise YH? That is not info that is given to us. 

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  2. 9 hours ago, Jolie TAN said:

    If be is to frame yh, how did br know yh has cologne? Yh doesn't seem to have cologne in hospital

     

     

    He said he smelled the mint after he fought with YH after granny was killed. Then when BR is at the church scene watching with the crowd and YH in his black hat is behind him, BR also says he smells mint.

     

    8 hours ago, nrllee said:

     

    Same with Grandma’s death.  The timeline for BR doesn’t fit.  And when we hear the killer recite in the beginning of Ep4, he says, “sometimes I go on random hunting trips...”. There was nothing random about killing her if it was YH killing her for taking the photo?  That would’ve been a necessity?  Not random?  So the killer was already there doing something in that deserted housing estate.  Grandma saw him on a random hunting trip?  He said, “this old lady saw something she shouldn’t have.  And ended up as an unexpected target.”  What was he doing there?  Killing cats?  And that’s why she died?  Not because of the photo.  DK was at the scene.  He seems to have some macabre fascination for serial killings.  He’s planning on becoming the next Alfred Hitchcock.  Is he collecting footage for his project?  Is he the killer’s apprentice of sorts?  

     

     

    Really good points.  It is possible BR really spoke to granny on cell when she called him because YH was chasing. We just did not hear or see that part.  So "she saw something etc" could relate to that to conversation. But you are correct the way the psycho voice speaks it sounds more random than that.. he was just out stalking and happened upon her and she saw him... but maybe BR is a schizo personality and it was just the schhizo who is speaking but motivated by BR's "normal" persona information.

     

     

    16 hours ago, nona88 said:

     

     

    It the hospital , and she was injured  in her neck did YH did that in that night  ? Or ????? 

    Ah really I really dont want them to go with YH death and they transform some organs  from him to BR or that  he really damage BR emotional  control  in the head with that hammer 

     

    ( okay  the new damage  Is less  stupid  then the organ  transformer since it more close to what can happen in medical  term)

    But both choicing between bad choices

     

    But if they going on the road that it cause the injury, he had emotional disability now( no awake  the gene stupid plot please,  just new  medical conditions) if they go that road at least do that right,  show us the really fight between  good past natural  and new fight between  uncontrollably new personality cause the injury ) 

    I agree both are bad choices, but they do show the two them, side by side, being wheeled into the operating room. And, one has to wonder are they going down the organ transfer path? or brain damage path? Or as we saw BR lying injured staring over to the unconscious YH, .. wondering if they made some kind of psychic linkage?  (actually I don't like that plot either).

     

     

    I mention now that in the character descriptions on the Mouse wikipedia page, the description for granny says 

    "Bong-yi’s grandmother always urges Bong-yi to marry Ba-reum, whom she considered a good bachelor in the neighborhood because she thinks it would be safe for her granddaughter to marry a police officer"
     
    Wondering if this is the irony, that granny thinks BR will keep BY safe.
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  3. On 3/20/2021 at 12:44 AM, OMORI said:

    Long time lurker but I had to get out of lurking to discuss this because there's 1209383 theories in my head LOL sorry in advance for the long post!

     

    Right now, I'm definitely leaning towards Ba Reum being the killer and Yo Han stalking his every move. The drama is pushing very hard for us to think that Yo Han is the killer and while there's some parts that I'm unsure of, I just feel like I can't trust Ba Reum's POV for his interactions with the supposed killer. Firstly, I think it's very strange that Yo Han worded his phrase as "Your son is a killer" to his mother, with the implication that he's not referring to himself? If he was indeed talking about himself wouldn't he just simply say "I'm the killer" or somewhere along the lines, he worded that in a strange way. Plus, we see Yo Han's mother at the hospital visiting him, noticing Yo Han staring at one of the hospital rooms and upon peeking in, she sees Ba Reum with Bong Yi. She had such a visceral reaction upon seeing them that she flees from the hospital and throws up outside. She then has a flashback of her strangling her supposed son saying that she should've killed him... This points to me that Ba Reum might actually be her biological son for her to react this badly. 

     

    Next, Ba Reum's recount of the events that took place when he was chasing the killer that killed Grandma. I can't fully trust his version of events, for all we know he could've easily just killed Grandma. He also said that the during the tussle he had with the killer, the killer was left handed, but Bong Yi's encounter with the killer in the church, she said that the killer was right handed? Grandma called Ba Reum after cleaning Yo Han's house and stumbling on his extremely suspicious looking basement, but keep in mind there's actually nothing in the basement that points to him doing anything related to being the killer, just his close studying of the killer's recent victims and how it connects to one another; it's just meticulous research. We also know that in a secret room in the basement, Yo Han has been keeping strict tabs on Ba Reum - he probably came to the conclusion that Ba Reum is the killer, and that he's also his mother's biological son. We also see that he has the psychopath gene test results although we don't know the inner contents yet, so the results could possibly confirm his suspicions about Ba Reum too. When Yo Han realised Grandma had been inside the basement and took a photo from there, he most likely chased after her because if she presented the photo to anyone else as an evidence she would end up being the killer's future victim due to her meddling - unfortunate that Ba Reum got to Grandma first. Again, I cannot trust Ba Reum's recount of events. One thing I also find interesting is how the killer supposedly takes a "trophy" from the victim? The killer took the brooch from Grandma, her prized possession. Why would the killer know that brooch is so special to the Grandma though? Only Ba Reum knows the backstory of the brooch and its meaning to Grandma, because she's the one who told him. 

     

    In a conversation with his mother, Yo Han told her that he doesn't want to have a family or any children and the idea of it disgusts him. If he was the psychopath here, procreating would be an interest to him. He's also shown to have feelings of fear, like when he hugged Hong Ju and told her he's scared - he's probably feeling terrified because the odds are against him, the current serial killings going on and him being branded as HH's son is not a good look for him at all. He's probably aware that Ba Reum is seemingly pushing the narrative for him being suspicious (Ba Reum's recount of the killer being left-handed, having a heavy mint scent, basically describing Yo Han) and potentially pinning him as the killer. Between a doe-eyed, kind-hearted policeman that everyone loves and trusts VS the son of HH... Yo Han doesn't have a fighting chance, nobody's going to believe he's innocent or hear his side of the story. This also explains why Yo Han has been doing his own research on Ba Reum and looking for the ample opportunity to strike and get rid of him. If Yo Han is stalking Ba Reum, that would explain why there's a bug device in his trashcan. In regards to Daniel Lee's death... If Ba Reum is trying to pin Yo Han as the killer because he's the alleged son of HH, Daniel Lee would ruin this plan since he's the one with the psychopath gene DNA test results, so he had to get rid of him. As for why Yo Han had bloody evidence linking to Daniel Lee's death, it's possible that if he was stalking Ba Reum and watching his moves closely, he collected the discarded evidence to investigate or possibly provide future proof. Not too sure on that regard, though.

     

    Lastly, I'd like to go back to the start of Mouse where we see the young boy feeding the mouse to the snake, you'd expect a weak, clueless mouse to be the victim of this situation when faced against a strong and big snake, but the mouse jumped and bit the snake's neck. I think this is a good comparison of the situation between Ba Reum (mouse) and Yo Han (snake). Ba Reum has a weak, innocent outlook and Yo Han looks cold and calculated... everyone expects the snake to be the killer, when in reality the true killer of the fight is the mouse who bit the snake's neck. The drama is really pushing Yo Han to be the killer but I think he's the true victim of this situation if Ba Reum is the true killer...

     

    After suffering from severe head damage with the fight with Yo Han, Ba Reum wakes up with a dead look in his eyes and having no qualms about snapping the bird's neck and throwing it out of the window like a piece of trash, a sharp contrast to his kind, empathetic behavior. I'm wondering if Ba Reum has a split personality that he's not aware of; one that's kind and the other being a more dormant psychopath personality before the head injury? After the injury, it could possibly have triggered the gene in his brain and the psychopath personality became the dominant personality, explaining why Ba Reum acted a whole 180 from his normal self. It's kind of messed up if Ba Reum truly had a split personality and recreated the whole version of events in his head when recounting the encounters with the killer. But I guess we'll have to see in future episodes... I do think Shin Sang is really suspicious though. There could be a mole within the police department tipping the killer off, but who knows? I think I just have trust issues from innocent looking guys after theorizing that Ba Reum is the killer.  :sad1:

     

     

    Hi, I've quoted @OMORI because some of these observations also came into my mind. But OMORI makes so many outstanding points that I think it is worthwhile to read through all of it. 

     

    There is a lot of intentional misdirections going on regarding Jae Hoon's family life and the family being killed. We are told his "entire family' were killed, but we know that the mom is alive. But was she really married to Mr. Kim?  That relationship is never fleshed out.  Also when Jae Hoon walks out of the interview he says god failed him and then we hear the psycho over voice say "My first kill..." that first kill is the boxer, and so if he actually killed his family that didn't make sense to me but perhaps it will as we find out more and more about what went on in the past.

     

    The above quote about YH"s mom saying "Your son is a killer"  also stood out in my mind. And, it brought back that moment when Mr. Kim called Jae Hoon's mom (after JH slit the bunny's stomach open) and he said "Your son"  And then in the hospital scene where the mom sees BR at the bedside, and she goes running out and vomits.  So,  was there a BR- YH- switch and when did the switch happen?   When we see Jae Hoon walk out of the police station, the mom is not with him.  Could she at this point have had a nervous breakdown and put into a sanitarium, and Jae Hoon was put him up for adoption or fostered out, to a church family? Then when did mom start to raise YH?  We know BR bought his current residence with his parents' insurance money.  (OR could she have had fraternal twins? Unlikely since that would have been mentioned early on. more likely YH is the son of one of the other mothers who were pregnant with a baby with the psycho gene).

     

    And of course BR would know everything that was going on with the fake video.

     

    BR was also close to Na Chi-Kook and could pull off the magic trick in the prison.

     

    OMORi also points out that the YH chased grandma was actually to save her..because he knows BR will find out and kill (which is very possibly what he did).  Also YH, tells BY in the hospital it was lucky she was temporarily blinded because if she saw the killer he would have killed her.

     

    We still do not know how BR could have pulled stuff off while his leg was injured.  Also BY says she thought she slashed the killer's arm.  Perhaps more info on that will turn up soon.

     

    In general 5&6 were quite brutal to watch. I hate child kidnappings and sufferings so it was something i had a difficult time paying attention to, I just wanted it to be over. I  could have lived well without all the other graphic sadistic details of the priest's death and watching the unspeakable pain that his brother went through. 

     

      The seven deadly sins is also famously used in the horror movie, starring Brad Pitt  "Seven".  

     

    I am wondering if BR knows HH is his bio father... if he in fact actually is. ..   

     

    I dont have any ideas at this point about  Dr Daniel Lee's murder.. the why and the who did it.  Except that after reviewing the Kim family death file with a detective, as Dr Lee walks out of the police station he conjures up in his mind the image of Jae Hoon and the cross on the horizon.  He has apparently connected the religious obsession with Jae Hoon.  Maybe he knows the real Jae Hoon is BR so he had to be silenced.. sort of a very weak theory.

     

    Does BR have a split personality? That is very possible and seems likely.  Less likely, but possible,  YH and BR are wheeled into the hospital together, and there could have been a psychic tranference?

     

     

     

     

     

     

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  4. On 3/16/2021 at 11:24 AM, holyfea said:

    Imho.. in the beginning of ep 2 and 3, there was picture of 3 victims.. I think IF JH really kills the 'entire family' maybe only consist of JH's step father and his step siblings (lil boy and girl). But mom is alive, that's why young MC came to JH mother the shop and asking for money to his brother's (pastor) surgery.

     

    But.. what if.. what if the mom who actually kills the man? OMG...

     

    What is actually HER SIN she was talking about...?

    to give a birth for HH's son or kill someone to protect her son?

     

    Dizzy :lol:

     

    Possible. There is something we are not seeing.  

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  5. 24 minutes ago, nrllee said:

    Okay I slowed the footage to take a look at JH’s mom when she tried to strangle him.  I think she’s YH’s mom.


     

     

    She was there trying to stop the step dad from beating him after the dog incident.

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    She was also in the kitchen when JH came home and lured his brother to see the dog’s grave.
     

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    And I agree with @maddymappo about why the step dad called the mom and called him “her son” which implied the child wasn’t his.   She owned a shop that she was running.  HH said JiEun his wife was a florist and he built her a studio in their home so she could do her flower arranging there.  So JH=YH=HH’s son
     

     

    @nrlleeThere is something else that bothers me. .. murkiness about her relationship with the Kim family.  Was she married to Mr. Kim? We see her in the ktichen but was she his wife? Because if the "entire family" was killed, what happened to her? Wasn't she part of the family, the mother? Why wasn't she with Jae Hoon at the police station. Curious. 

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  6. 1 hour ago, 1ouise said:

     

    I'm still sticking with this logic. 

    It has now been confirmed that Yo-han = HH's son = Jae-hoon.

    And he has told us that he is a killer.  (Is that not his voice?)

     

    It looks like he is not the only killer.  There is (was :o) another:

     

    The clothes show that a third person is part of that chase.

     

    i now think Jae Hoon is hh's son - because it seems more and more clear to me that the mother in the scene is HH's wife. But it is still veiled because there is no mention of her surviving the killing of the "entire family"  or perhaps the relationship between her and the father is not clearly husband and wife? when Mr Kim calls Jae Hoon;s mom after he cut open the bunny, Mr. Kim says on the phone "Your son" he doesn't say "Jae Hoon'

     

    14 hours ago, holyfea said:

     

    It clearly mentioned when JH tried to bury that lil dongsaeng, Mom came to save him and shouted "i should never give a birth to you, you are a monster!"

    If JH would be BR then why YH mom get a flashback of that scene?

     

    It would be the case if YH is not her real son, she got flashback after hear the radio about serial killer because she thought it did by her real son, BR..  whoaaaaaaaa 

     

    Dizzy dizzy.. :astonished:I

    1 hour ago, 1ouise said:

    'm still sticking with this logic. 

    It has now been confirmed that Yo-han = HH's son = Jae-hoon.

    And he has told us that he is a killer.  (Is that not his voice?)

     

    It looks like he is not the only killer.  There is (was :o) another:

     

    @holyfea  Thank you for clarifying this. I was confused. It does appear that Jae Hoon's mom is YH's mom from everything you say.  The story telling is murky about this though.  After Mr. Kim went to the school because Jae Hoon slit open the bunny's belly, he called her up at the "the shop"  and he says to her "your son did ...."  not Jae Hoon did that. So he is showing in a way that Jae Hoon may not be related to him. But was he calling his wife? We see her in the kitchen at one point but not really interacting with the family and then the detective says that the 'entire family' was killed. So was there a mother?  How could YH's mom be alive if the entire family was killed?  I  found this a little confusing.  

     

    @1ouise  The voice is interesting. When Jae Hoon walks out of the police department after the lie detector test we hear his voice say god failed him. We think he killed his family. Then in the next moment we hear the thick disguised voice saying his first killing was thrilling, and shows us the murdered boxer. So it appears that is not the voice  of Jae Hoon anymore, anddd because that would not be his first killing... and the voice changed. 

     

     

     

     

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  7. 2 hours ago, carolinedl said:

    That's really interesting and could be linked to one of my theories above, that they are both killers. JH killed his family and would be BR - he left the police station and went to the Church. Perhaps then he was taken care of by a priest and that is where he met the other guys, became involved in the Curch and community, etc. BR mentioned that he bougth his place after the death of his parents (that would be mother and step-dad) and the way he said it, it made me think they died together. Then YH would have started killing only recently... he might have started hurting animals (as we see with the falily dog) and much later humans.

     

    Argghhh... We need new episodes now in order to know more!...

     

    @carolinedl  Yes I am thinking along these lines too. The question is who was Jae Hoon's mom. We only see a glimpse of her when he is burying his brother and she starts to strangle him and says she should not have given birth to him.   Most of the time the face is fogged, but for a moment she does look more like YH"s mother... but i also thought it would be unlikely that she could remarry with the child of a psychopath, who would marry her? But the other lady who had the nice husband who died, could more easily find another mate who would adopt the baby. Still it is not clear at all.  

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  8. The change in voice of the psycho.

    At the beginning of episode 3 when Jae Hoon leaves the police station after the lie detector test,  we hear him say about himself  God failed him. 

     

    Then in the same scene,  the voice changes to that heavy deep disguised telephone voice- that voice says "my first killing was exhilerating" and it shows the boxer's death.  But if Jae Hoon killed his family, his first killing  would not be the boxer's death it would be him murdering his family. 

     

    The detective also tells Dr. Daniel Lee that the entire family was killed (in the beginning of that episode) but they show three shrouded bodies in the picture.  No mention of the mother and we never see the mother die, but how would Jae Hoon be alone in the police department? How would he walk out of the police department alone? He was only 11 years old.  Why not mention of the mother?

     

    We see Jae Hoon walking out of the police dept alone, in what appears to be a flashback to when he took the lie dectector test and  then we also see Dr. Daniel Lee watching Jae Hoon walk away and the cross appears. Was that imagined by him? or also part of the flash back?  I found that confusing.  Does anyone have ideas?

     

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  9. 18 minutes ago, nona88 said:

    Yeh I think that possibly can happen  since we really didn't see everything  but you know what more weird was the jae hoon step sister  not just cause she tell on him( that can be innocent  from little  girl )

    But cause when the step dad was hitting  the jae  hoon and the mother who trying to stop him  the step sister  was drawing with happy face and smile  while the step brother  was next to her hearing everything  too and scared and covering  his ears to not hear the scream 

     

     

    As more little  girl she should be more scared then the older one , and not smiling  while that happened  

    But she was just smiling  and drawing  like she enjoy what happen  ( yeh I have a lot of children  around me in my family  that not normal  reaction  no matter how young she is, the younger more sensitive  to any fight or scream or fear ) she creep me , the little  girl creep me 

     

    @nona88  That's a great point. The little girl was creepy. Also, the way she mechanically repeated what their conversation was between Jae Hoon and his brother when Jae Hoon poured the amonia in the fish tank. She sounded like a recording machine.   Very creepy indeed, but as far as we know she died too and only Jae Hoon survived.

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  10. Hello eveyone, I just finished watching the first 4 episodes. I am enjoying reading your comments and learning a lot. I had a lot of question and also did not pick up on many of the details. 

     

    I found the beginning hard to follow because of the time jumps, from 10 yrs ago to the present to 5 years later etc. it took me time to figure out what was the past and what was the present. 

     

    It was very sad that Grandma died, I was hoping that would not happen.  

     

     

    Questions

    Do you think that YH will track down the employment agency where grandma got his address? He doesn't know that she did this on her own. He must think the agency knows that they sent her to his house.  No follow up on that yet.

     

    Do you think Go Mu Won will be the treasure that the psycho will kill to hurt Mu Chi?

     

    Does anyone think that BaReum's mother is the one who remarried into the Kim famiily and that BaReum is actually Jae Hoon?   They keep the mother's face fogged up. But it makes sense since she was a widow who had no taint on her reputation. YH is the child of a serial killer. It would have been more difficult for his mother to remarry.  We do not see the mother's body but later on we hear that Jae Hoon murdered the whole family. BaReum is living in a big place. He says he paid for it with his parent's insurance money.  Also BaReum is a church goer, he was being mentored by Mu Won...and the psycho has an obsession with the cross.

     

     

     

     

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  11. 1 hour ago, andy78 said:

    so sad his tribe was masacrate...those who survived had to hide ...no wonder he did not recognized her...he did not want this girl he likes so much to be the king's daughter...

     I agree. That is a reason I found his willingness to risk the lives of the villagers by hiding Princess P there improbable.

     

    On Dal told the Ghost Village leader he would take responsibility for Princess P.. He played handy man house fixer upper  with her  He lied and covered up her confession that she is a Princess by saying she was just an assassin (as if that isn't bad enough), w/o adding that she was the assassin being hunted for trying to kill the King.   

     

    All in all, I thought to myself how do you take responsibility if the villagers are slaughtered? What does "take responsibility" mean.  

     

    I thought that it was very sweet and kind hearted of the villagers and the little girl chiming in that it was okay to keep her in the village. But how will that work for them in the real world?  They hardly know her at all, it's not as if she was living among them for months.  Any headman of a village who really was responsible for the lives of everyone, would give her a basket of food and some money and send her on her way.  So that part of episode 4 I found annoying. 

     

    Question: I don't understand the herbal shop lady.  She is kind of a sadist, but she allowed Princess P and OD to leave.  What is her plan?  How does she fit in? Does she love GG? 

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  12. First impression after watching 2 episodes. 

    My thought is that On Dal is supposed to live like a "fool". That was his fathers wish. Although we know On Dal is destined to be a General.   Pyeonggang's first wish as a princess is to be king, and then after losing her memory in her new life she wishes not to be an assassin (good thinking) and live a quiet life.  Although at this point she doesn't remember her mother and doesn't know that her mother was betrayed it is her destiny to find out and want revenge. But let us remember General On Hyeop's advice to On Dal... there is no such thing as  revenge. In several dramas I have seen, the parent gives the advice that revenge doesn't pay but the child just ignores it. Likely in this drama they will discover that revenge is not what they thought it would be, and will lead to more bitterness and suffering.   

     

    Ultimatley, my wish is that the two somehow survive and disappear into the world of common people to raise a family and live happily ever after.

     

     

    Thank you @nrlleefor your insight into this mystery.

    On 2/18/2021 at 4:43 PM, nrllee said:

    The reason why I think it was the tribal chief in white is that he seems to be the only one in that Tribal Council who seemed disturbed that the assassination attempt was going to take place.  Actually they planned it without his consent, it’s in the conversation they had when they were talking together.  They didn’t include him in the planning stages because they knew he was against the insurrection.  But he needed to stay incognito to stay on side with the other tribal chiefs.  He needed someone else to stop the process.  Hence the planted note.  The monk (suspected Queen’s lover) seemed to have renounced all his “worldly ways” and walked away from politics and everything Palace related?  He was not dissimilar to OnDal’s dad in that sense.  Bar the fact that he had the added complication of being in love with the Queen.  The 2FL?  Has she appeared yet? 

     

     

     

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  13. Hello Mr Queen thread. I have been watching the series but not following on Soompi. I had to chime in though on this "Did they or didn't they" .    .. 

     

    My two conflicting feelings is" this is a show that younger kids are watching so they will not do sex."

    My conflict is:  " The real Queen So Yong has take over conciousness a couple of times.  So it is possible"  that if the Yin Queen has  taken over then to sleep romatically with the Yang King is okay.

     

    I tend to think because South Korea television is very modest, that no sex happened. 

     

    Just my 2 cents. :heythere:

     

  14. I like the romantic damsel in distress rescue scenes and music.  Why did they smear rouge straight across Li Quin's face?  :blush:  even on the emoji it's just on the cheek bones. 

    I liked the opening, wolf boy scenes, with the animals and forest. I liked the shadow puppets.  Kind of went downhill for me after that. I think Li Quin seems too mature for the role, or maybe it is the voice of the dubber that is stiff, I heard her real voice is very beautiful.

    Darren Wang is my favorite in this. I actually do "feel his pain".   Zhan is very handsome, but seems to much younger than Li Qin. 

    The plot for me is not too interesting, and too many tease scenes, so I started skipping ahead a lot, and doesn't seem like I miss much. 

  15. Who is the voice - the narrator, when Luna visits the yo yo boy? Does anyone have any ideas. Thought it was JTE, could it be Luna? could it be yoyo boy?

     

    Also -  could Luna have stolen the ID? She could have entered the palace undetected because she looks like Jte? She is known as a thief. 

     

    Luna is also going to be used by LR to find Jte, although not sure why he would need her. After all he has the ID at this point, he so he knows her identity.  This is confusing to me.  

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  16. On 5/11/2020 at 5:53 PM, mrsj3n said:

     

    @maddymappo LG had explained to JTE before that he had went in and out of the in between before hence he was able to gauge the time.

    May I ask what blemishes are you referring to?

    I don't recall LR's minions  say they will now live forever.

    So far, it seems LR is the only one not aging.

    @mrsj3n    I rewatched the 8 episodes again. In episode 8 I noticed that  after leaving flowers for Ji-hun, while Ji-hun's mother is in the car watching Shin Jae she says something about "they will keep me alive' - or something like that, and she studies her wrist, there seems to be blemish.  And, I also noticed that Luna's wrist seems to be blemished too, she also studies her wrist. Perhaps this is my imagination.

     

     

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  17. 1 hour ago, vangsweetie637 said:

    Hi chingu! We meet in this thread too :D Very interesting thought. My only question will be why is Luna interested in being a savior? By savior, did you mean the one who saved LG as a boy? Because the savior didn’t have Luna’s demeanor. And if you mean savior as in the end of all this, given that Luna stated she has nothing to lose, then her being a savior would have to become more than what we have been shown so far about her. I also think Luna is not entirely an evil person (seeing how she didn’t want the kid to see her kill the guy at the ice cream place) but her circumstances surely molded her into such a scary person. 

    I must give this a lotmore thought.  I just got hung up on the rabbit running, LG chasing and leads him to the rabbit hole so to speak. And then remembered the Alice story about the rabbit saying '"i'm late I'm late for a very important date!" and the date was Alice's trial and execution. Not sure about anything yet though. 

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  18. 32 minutes ago, ms_inquiry said:

    Also about the shooter:

     

    Right now I'm guessing that it is SJ but it could very well be LG. The drama has however hinted that JTE is a pretty great shooter as well, at the shooting range and by getting the Tiger for LG. The shooter in ep 1 aims his gun at LR for a second and seems to consider killing him outright. Perhaps it is SJ since he could be a little tempted to kill LR right then and there so that the time line plays out differently - so that LG and JTE never meet (since he's in love with JTE). However he seems to be a better person than that, it could just be a moment of weakness since the shooter does make sure that young LG gets the ID badge. 

    Do you think it could be Luna?  Luna is the rabbit.. the rabbit in the Alice in Wonderland story is rushing not to miss an appointment - perhaps it is the execution that she is running not to miss. 

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  19. Hello everyone I am new here,

    I just binged 8 episodes. I was sure i was not going to like this series but I am completely hooked. I think writer-nim has written a very complicated and interesting story blending many themes, science and fantasy, children's stories and really somehow makes it work. I also like the actors and i like the characters too.  My favorite character now is SJ, I feel his hurt and sorrow, and I am so sorry he loves JTE but she is not destined for him. 

     

    I have been following the plot but must admit i get confused and reading along here, I get many explanations to my questions and also insights.  I have to re-watch from the beginning again before the new episodes. 

     

    My questions

    I was wondering about the eternal life theme. Have you been discussing this?  I am afraid that LG and JTE are going to end up in different time zones and will not be able to live together in the end. LG says something about time is paced differently in both worlds but I am not sure how he knows that.

     I am wondering about the blemish on the wrists - when the the LR people say they will now live forever?   

     

    And I am wondering about that strange beach where the balloon never shrinks and falls.. what does that place mean? Also does everyone in LG's kingdom know about that place? Do other people go there?  Is that the place where the mini army we see vowing fealty to LR as their king were in that scene a while back?

     

    Well if anyone has any thoughts about this i would really appreciate it.

     

     

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  20. 1 hour ago, AC95 said:

     

    Edit: @keyta posted the source article earlier (see pg 2)

    What's On Netflix indicates yes:

    https://www.whats-on-netflix.com/news/k-dramas-coming-to-netflix-in-2020/

    Though I think the date of July has been superseded. 

     

    Generally prospects are great because of the strategic deal Netflix inked with CJ E&M and its subsidiary Studio Dragon. Studio Dragon is the planner for SF2 and Ace Factory the production house. 

     

    I invite knowledgeable veterans on the board to add on/correct the info... 

    Thanks @keyta and @AC95  - Something to look forward to and on Netlfix makes it easy for me. 

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