[Chinese Webseries 2016] Heroin Web Series 上癮网络剧

[jlt4ever]

15 hours ago, fuyuko said:

 

First thank you very much for your translations and all others in this forum who have translated.

I don't think anyone has translated this 30 min Femina Interview yet. I've seen the 4-5 minute version subbed. If you have time can you help translate this? Many thanks

Sure, I would love to translate this  As before, I will type out the dialogues and post on this thread.

[jaenzhou2u]

Standing ovation...to @ariodante ... yes all our lose chances to be with that person.... mayb that is why we have this obsession to made it happy ending... hence our delulu abt zz n jy..... its like we writing pur story again thru theirs...

[jlt4ever]

15 hours ago, gayyoxx said:

Thank you for your information. I already read some but the rumour about Hunan was reported by competitors on HC and RFT is new. If the rumour has any grain of truth, then as I have thought, the mess is the result of govt's vague policy and business competition among big actors, with JY and ZZ as the collateral damage, or in more sinister way, sacrificial lambs.

However, I am still wondering about the quoted part. Some people do have opinion like you, @jlt4ever, that JY's management team proposed the separation first (maybe because the Thai's MC statement and the fact that JY is the one who was absent from interviews in Thailand). Yet, JY does not have management team, right? He is his own boss, unlike ZZ who is signed under CJD's company. If JY  really decided on the separation, why did he look so forlorn during the Thai FM and become so happy when ZZ stood beside him? These do not match, imho. Maybe you have any opinion on this? 

I think the fact that JY is not signed to any companies does not mean that he can do anything he wants. There can always be strings attached to any work offer he receives. As he is nothing but a new actor in the industry (and his show just got banned), I don't think he has that many choices as we imagine... 

Also, even if this is really JY's final decision, agreeing to this arrangement does not mean that he is the least satisfied with this decision.

Obviously JY and ZZ were deeply touched by Thai fans' l support at the meeting (the video, the banners and everything). Deep inside they must feel highly disappointed that they cannot pay back the fans' love by even showing up together on the stage. I think the forlorn look was just a truthful reflection of how JY felt on the stage - missing the good time when he used to have great fun with ZZ, FS and CW (like the Shanghai FM) and also feeling regretful that he is not able to do anything to change this.

14 hours ago, charlie10 said:

@jlt4ever - thanks for some interesting insight! If you're right about the separation being foremost a business decision on both parts, then I feel there's hope that there might come a time, not too far from now, when the issue of the two in the same room, isn't such a big deal. If the HC and RFT2 debacles were just cases of being scared of something that might happen and not an actual ban, then maybe future work might be together, if Addicted isn't as big a part of the equation. 

Still, we can't forget that also The  Amazing Race was cancelled and again, I can't see why that would have happened unless people were scared of either employing JY on his own, or because he was going to partner up with ZZ. Otherwise I just can't see how TAR fits in with the rest of this theory. Also, ZZ used to talk about a high school film he was going to film next, right? What happened to that one? Must have been cancelled too? Those two projects being cancelled as well does favour the idea that something more than just tv exectuives being scared of putting JY & ZZ together, I feel. 

However JY is doing great at the moment, I saw he said in one interview today that he has several projects which he can't alk about yet. Right? I hope he'll do more acting. I have a feeling both JY & ZZ wants to do more acting, but for the moment, they've not been able to.

 

As a fan, I would certainly want to see them in public again! But as I mentioned before, I am already convinced that JY and ZZ are already a real couple. And they cannot really hide their love for each other in the public. If you also agree with this, perhaps them not showing together is also the best way to protect their love.

Re TAR, I agree with you that the partner was meant to be ZZ in the first place and it got cancelled after what happened to Hunan TV. (Here comes my delulu) Just imagine how Yu and Zhou would have acted in that show! They are two 20-something guys who are madly in love. I mean of course we CPFs will be thrilled to death. But! The other audience will also see what we see and they will discover that YuZhou is in a relationship! Can't be good for them if that happens...

Re ZZ's movie, there may be some change of plan - shooting delayed or sth. Not quite sure yet.

I recall JY once said in an interview with Mina magazine that actors with no background can be easily suppressed in this business (I think the interview was in early March IIRC). So when they lose some opportunities, it may just be competition in this business (although some may be unfair). But I think people in this business can all easily tell YuZhou's potentials. That's why ZZ's company soon got him the Asia concert tours and JY got the new projects as you mentioned.

[bearology]

Zz today. Looks like he manage to gain some weights 

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This one he still looks like BLY 

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https://instagram.com/p/BFi7cqBPopY/

The necklace 

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[diephailam]

18 hours ago, jlt4ever said:

Hi @xix19xix There have been quite some discussions among C-fans on this but opinions are still divided as to what has actually caused this unfortunate result.

I'm not quite familiar with how SARFT usually plays its role in regulating the industry. But it's just hard to imagine that a national government body like SARFT would impose such a specific ban on two newbie actors for showing up together in the public. To me the whole thing feels more like a consensual business decision from YuZhou's management teams, rather than them following a real ban from SARFT.

Rumor has it that Hunan TV cannot broadcast Happy Camp and Run For Time because its competitors reported the shows to SARFT and made it feel that Hunan TV is using the fame of Addicted Web Series to promote its shows. Hunan TV did not want risk irritating SARFT and therefore had to make a hard decision abandoning YuZhou.

As the ban on the Addicted Web Series is still new, no one really knows how seriously SARFT would take this. I think at the time of HC recording many TV stations were still waiting to see how SARFT would react. So after knowing what happened to Hunan TV, they were immediately discouraged from inviting Yu & Zhou to record programs together.

In the meantime, Yu&Zhou's management teams must also have realized that YZ continuing to show up together may cost them more good opportunities. Based on what happened, I think JY's team proposed the separation first and the proposal was soon accepted by ZZ's team.

The above is all my personal understanding. I will surely let you know there is more official news on this in the future.

It's really nice to get in touch with so many international YuZhou fans on this forum. For those who do not speak Chinese, if you have anything you want me to translate, please send me a message, and I will try to translate it when there is time  

u're so nice, thk u very much :))

[charlie10]

I think the topic of Johnny's free spirit very interesting. We don't know him, so it's difficult to know how much of it is an image he likes to project or how much it's a personality trait which he'll stick to no matter what. Maybe a combination of both? But I do think that he's in the entertainment industry because he wants to make a living out of it, so I do imagine he is ambitious. And I can't imagine that he'd let go a chance to make it big. He's gotten a bit of a taste of the big leagues now, and I find it hard to believe he'd let that go, just because he's free spirited. If that means he's signed with an agency, I don't know. I suppose it depends on the demands they have - maybe they've only give him opportunities if he's prepared to sign up for whatever. 

If we believe JY is in a relationship with ZZ, this must be a predicament. If JY is a free spirited guy who wants to be true to himself, I imagine having a secret relationship is something he greatly opposes. There's a vast difference between being private about a relationship and being secret, after all (although, us fans could easily erase that difference with all the 'investigations'). When we look at all the BTS-videos and all the other times that we've seen JY look at ZZ with such googly-eyed wonder, I see someone who doesn't care to hide how he feels. I think that's probably what he means with 'be true to yourself' - he doesn't want to live a life in the shadows. But if they are in some kind of relationship, he's not the only one he has to consider. And JY knows that it's impossible to be open about this, right now. I can't help but wonder how that affects JY, though, that conflict. How much is he prepared to compromise, in order to protect his and ZZ's careers. It'll be interesting to see, in the future, how JY will act, if he keep being a little rebellious and how much he'll adjust.

I think ZZ is ambitious too and of course a relationship with a guy isn't exactly the best strategy at this point, no matter how he might feel (maybe this is part of the stress he seems to be feeling right now?). They are both young, their futures laid out before them, with the possibility of having a successful career. But maybe they're both learning how to 'play the game', so they can have both a good relationship AND a career. (From that perspective, I almost wish they're NOT in a relationship - yet - because it just means so much trouble for them.) It's just a pity that they can't officially support each other, boost the others career - even if it's just a good buddies (but I suppose it'll take a long time before people see them together and only see two good friends. That cat is out of the bag, it's hard to get it back in). 

Imagine JY coming on stage in Beijing on June 5 to sing his duet with ZZ, for example? It would be beautiful and perfect. And no one else should sing that part. Here I want JY's free spirit to win - to just say damn it all and do that. No more, no less, just finish the show with the duet. And we could all die happily.

I love your story @Ariodante - the magic powers of Addicted, it never ceases to amaze.  

 

[bearology]

JY will be returning to BJ tomorrow! Geez, is it weird that im so excited about JY will reunite with his wifey tomorrow? 

@kmmyzz: no worries, thanks for letting me know. I must have missed it while scrolling down through all these long posts using my phone 

More ZZ today. Cr on pic

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[izziehudson]

2 hours ago, Ariodante said:

However, it still touched us deeply in many profound ways: perhaps it acted as a mirror to our past actions, missed opportunities, relationships gained, lost, or never attempted (the worst!); perhaps it awoke a ray of hope for love, that we may find a GH or BLY in the future, or perhaps we just realise a GH or BLY is close by and we need to make a move. Or something much more…

 

Thank you for sharing the story with us! It's amazing how this show has touched people in many different ways. I've read so many different stories from fans about why they felt so connected to the story in one way or another... I'm a sucker for everything cute and romantic  

Anyway this video of ZZ, has it been posted? He looks so darn cute!

Yue Sai X Xu Wei Zhou - 520 Surprise

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edit : okay nvm just saw the GIFs posted! sorry I was overexcited, he looks so much like a cat ^.^ 

have a lovely day / evening!

[Lucy Vaganova]

53 minutes ago, charlie10 said:

 

Imagine JY coming on stage in Beijing on June 5 to sing his duet with ZZ, for example? It would be beautiful and perfect. And no one else should sing that part. Here I want JY's free spirit to win - to just say damn it all and do that. No more, no less, just finish the show with the duet. And we could all die happily.

 

 

You seemed to read my mind! 

[André Sá]

12 hours ago, xix19xix said:

 

There are a few things that would make it difficult.

Firstly, both of them are already stars in their own right. They do not need to make another season. I mean ZZ has a sold out concert, JY has been getting a lot of offers too. LFS has already started acting in a new show. CW has a new show already.

If they wanna make the second season with Netflix, they must be prepared to be banned in China for a long long time. They would be giving up opportunities in the mainland which is their home country. In the Western world where Asian characters are routinely whitewashed, I see few opportunities for them thereafter.

Also, Netflix would not want incur the wrath of the China government at a time when they would love to make inroads into the China market. After all, boy love is still a niche market. I have to say that Addicted series has broader appeal than most BL shows but then the Chinese market is far bigger. If I were Netflix, I won't risk it.

Unless they are paid extremely well, I can't see it happening...

Sorry, maybe it is because I have come to accept that it has ended. Just as ZZ said, it is a new beginning. All I  hope is that they are doing well and that both of them are safe and happy. The Delulu dream is that they will eventually be able to appear together publicly. And the ultimate Delulu fantasy is that they will get married in the future.

 

Thanks for the reply. I'm a new fan and it's been hard to let it go, since I finished the series yesterday, discovered it was cancelled due to the censor and yesterday was the international day against homofobia. I was literally feeling the consequences of other countries homophobia (I'm from Brazil).

 

That make me question a lot of things and memories, and the series has really affected me for the very first time (I guess it would be those kinds of love you develop torward a series/ fictional character everybody experiences as a teenage, but for me it was the first time and I'm alread 25!). The possibility to see myself represented in a webseries is now new to me, I don't have to conform with heterossexual romance anymore. I just wished they could end the series properly to have a sense of closure I guess... But I know it's a bit selfish to think like that, since it may impact their careers...

 

Is there a way to show our discontent publicaly? I mean, ok not to do a petition for Netflix to produce the series, but we could do a petition against the ban of all the LGBT content in china. I know it may end in nothing, but we can try to show how people in all world are united against this kind of institutional homophobia in china and heat the discussion... It's a long way to go, but I'm so frustrated I'm feeling I should do something.

 

[aeislaeigh]

YuZhou manip

Source:  watermark

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Timmy fan art

Source:   沫色惜年

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Johnny fan art

Source:   jjseason

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Source:   小鲸鱼plus

 

 

[ayasdai]

Whoever is drawing these amazing fanarts and then makes a gif from it I am willing to pay her/him to animate S2. 

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[charlie10]

Seems Johnny spent some time while waiting to fly back home to delete even more posts from his weibo... He's down to 39 now.

Good news! ZZ is still there. 

It's like a game - what will remain the longest. It's very intriguing. So this preciousness is still there. It means something, at least. It means something to him. 

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Also, I see there's news that JY will star in a show, something about lipsynching?

[aeislaeigh]

Lovely Timmy

Source:   海报网微信推送

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[aeislaeigh]

Johnny at Frankfurt Airport

Source:   鲸鱼呼呼zZ

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[xix19xix]

@Ariodante, @André Sá,

Wow... Really deep and powerful sharing! I am amazed how this series is able to touch and continue to touch so many people from so many different background. Maybe the love that we dream of, had and lost, and the regrets and hope we have about love are indeed the reasons why we are so hooked. It is our common language! That could explain why its appeal is beyond traditional BL.

I said before and I will say again. China lost an opportunity in extending its soft power by banning Addicted. They had not realised how many people love the show and would have had a favourable image of China. This is yet another PR blunder they committed. It just reinforces their image as secretive, unpredictable and controlling.

Andre Sa, I don't think the Chinese likes it when one takes the hard approach. Protest and petition will only make them more resolute. They will not engage like how they were during the Umbrella movement in Hong Kong. If only someone powerful would privately get the top government officials see things in a different light. This is a different kind of delusion.

So I personally feel the best way forward is to let more people know about the show, and support the boys - such as buying ZZ music, watching JY new shows. This is what most Chinese fans are doing. We can join in too  Let those in SAFRT know that they can ban but they cannot stop people from loving the show and the boys! 

[kmmyzz]

Finally finished translating and subbing ZZ's interview with Billboard China.

All thanks to Deokhu Island on youtube who let me to use her Korean sub to English.

Note: There might be slight off translations as this was translated from CH to KR to ENG.

Enjoy! Also, this video is only for 360p as there's no actual video.

(oml can't believe I did this for 4 hours..... ;-;)

@Scandani @poetato @gayyoxx @charlie10 @ximichem 

[bearology]

1 hour ago, charlie10 said:

Seems Johnny spent some time while waiting to fly back home to delete even more posts from his weibo... He's down to 39 now.

Good news! ZZ is still there. 

It's like a game - what will remain the longest. It's very intriguing. So this preciousness is still there. It means something, at least. It means something to him.

JY and his deleting game  I call upon the Powers of the Universe I call upon the Spirit of the Universe, please don't do this to us JY. Im going to re-post these photos here I'm just preparing for the worst but I believe in you JY . 

Cr JY's weibo

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I know this is from ZZ's weibo but a heart couldn't be completed without the other half right? 

Well at least for now ZZ is the only one who has selfies with JY on his weibo 

 

[Oline Oline]

Couple suit 

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But i never seen zhou with this suit.

It must be an event?

 

[kmmyzz]

@Oline Oline yes, it's a recent event, happening now

Also, couple bag, perhaps?