[Drama 2016] Moon Lovers ❤ Scarlet Heart Ryeo, 달의 연인-보보경심 려 \^0^/ Soompi Kdrama 2016 Winner

[soph_t]

1 minute ago, violet90 said:

 

in Cvers RX understand why 4th need to punish Yu Tan but she cannot accept the punishment... 4th steam her and let all the maid see this as a warning to not betray him.. in this version i don't see WS that cruel so i doubt CR will receive the same punishment but she will die... 

its not about blaming WS but HS will sloly give up on her life (same thing with RX) because too many people that she care died in front of her.. the burden seeing all this will eat her alive and the last string will be IF she miscarriage... than she will be done with herself , WS and palace...

Ohh, thank you so much for explaining this, I completely had a different perspective. It make's so much more sense now. The girl being steamed, god, what a traumatic thing to witness, and having people you care about dying one by one, I am not surprised Ruoxi gave up on life.  
Thank god WS is not so ruthless, I hope, I'm praying that HS keeps strong  she's got a hell of a lot to get through... 

[AyaA]

did anyone mentioned it?

before the kiss scene, WS asked HS, is the one she loved is Jung?

So he hasn't realized it yet that WW is HS's former lover.

Oh crapppo.. this will lead to a bigger problem

[bliss1004]

 

Spoiler

Last one.... the clear version for kiss scene you can watch the raw..hahaha..i'm so lazy to upload the video

 

 

 

[sriskaddict]

btw how many episodes did i watch today!!!! everything went too fast!!!

[Rose3]

Thank you everyone for the live recaps! Eclipses are really jjang like the drama itself! @meahri_1 Lol! Your live broadcasting commentaries of the baseball game is epic and intense as the drama! How cray are we over the drama?  The stars are aligned and cosmology has approved of this drama.

This drama is really crazy. I think in this episode many things are going on, so will be the coming future episodes. Based on the live recaps, in one episode you can feel happy (when Wang So and Hae Soo kiss and their lovey-dovey scenes), then you find yourself feeling anxious - anticipating what will happen next. At other scenes, you will be angry at those evil characters. If I were Wang So, I would have choose to take over the throne and get rid off these evil and power-craze people around me.  I can't even stand them.  The only sane people there are Wang So, Hae Soo, Eun, SD, the General, Baek Ah, maybe Woo Hee (i think Baek Ah change her), maybe Jimong. Those nice to Hae Soo like Lady Myung Hee, Lady Oh has already died and more good people will die (Eun and his wife). Thus, I know Wang So will go for the throne only because Hae Soo is in danger and also he can't stand this bull****.  And at another moment you will be emotional - death, where lovers are separated or experience bad circumstances, like Eun and SD in the next episode when they starting to love each other. This drama is one hell of a rollercoaster ride. 

As this screen cap in the trailer has said that this is "the place where one dies when trusting others and live of doubting those close to you" (I have posted in my previous post). 

Spoiler

 

How scary life was back then where killing is norm (life is dependent on sword) and power-craze are at the forefront of one's desires. Chaeryung turn her back on Hae Soo, something must happen between her and Wang Won (the purple prince). I saw the screen caps and I must say the actor who played the role of Crown Prince acted very well as well as a supporting cast.  I reserve my review of the episode once the subs are out. And I will response/quote to some of you as I seen many fantastic comments, thoughts and insights. I will back read pages as things are getting interesting thus more great thoughts come out. And I hope I can respond to all.  Eclipses and Scarlet Heart:Ryeo jjang!   

P.S. I still hold on to my belief and initial thoughts that this drama might be the best Kdrama 2016 for me as of now. Despite many critics, I still think we should reserve our concluding thoughts once the drama ends so that we can make more fairer conclusion because you can't predict how the episode will unveil for this type of drama. In the words of Lee Joon Gi, Saeguk drama expands and stimulate your imaginations. You can't predict how it goes because we were not from that era and that many things can happen or unfold depending on how the scriptwriter and PD wants it to be. Lee Joon Gi chooses the drama despite objections from his K-fans is because he is sold on the script, he said he had to do it, he even the one who go talk to the PD for the role. (He even politely and humbly write a message to them on Hajunse board explaining why he choose it). So the script and story must be good and it is living to that as witness from the popularity and craze of this drama just evident in this forum. <3 

Lol I tend to write long post. Haha! I am used to writing essays at university and I don't like to held back my thoughts, I will forget them. Haha, *bows head*, mian hae! 

[sunshinefate]

4 minutes ago, junejungki said:

I know already the story and journey will be sad but why poor heart cannot take it??

I already have a plan that I will watch the last 3 episodes altogether because my heart also can't take it. Our OTP is just so pitiful. They just want to be happy with each other peacefully. Who does fate seem too cruel to them

[itzibitzispider]

Sooooooooo tierd ... and it's barely 5pm ... my kids bring me tea and try to tend to me ...

on the nice side:
I could see 780% of the episode and specially that KISS 

[millie10468]

So is Soo going to be Yo's hostage for his entire 4 years of reign? Man, I hope not. Can't So break her out and the two of them live on the run for the next 4 years or so or until So has to come oust Yo from the throne?

Also, I'm now trying to figure out how the marriage to Yeonhwa will work out. Wook is now proving his loyalty to Yo so I'm guessing the time is coming for Yeonhwa to become the collateral damage and be sacrificed to Yo. She's not about to stand for that so will she go make a deal with So? The only reason So will even entertain that thought of being king is probably because Soo's Yo's hostage.

But it should be clear to all now that So and Soo are together, right? Wook and Yeonhwa should know by now since it was pretty clear that Soo's the only reason So didn't attack Yo.

I still don't think So finding out that Soo loved Wook once will cause a misunderstanding that breaks them up. Even now when he's trying to find out if it was Jung, he doesn't appear to have any intention to hunt down that person and kill them. Maybe Wook does something extra despicable in the future that has So seething to kill him, and then it comes out that Soo loved Wook and that's what makes him so mad? But even then, I don't see why he would take out his anger at Wook on Soo when he loves her so much. I don't know, maybe that part of C-BBJX wasn't adapted. I sure do hope so.

[MoOnLoVeRz]

 

[may6]

53 minutes ago, Ainee Etp said:

Why do they see 10th prince as a threat?

HS hiding them in Damiwon but was discovered by YH. YH go telling and WY sent WS to kill them. WS now has to choose between everyone's life and HS'life. He chose HS's.

I hope there is a plan behind  all this...10 and his wife should pretend to be dead or make it seems like it ....disappear from the scene and be happy elsewhere...i don't know how the general would support wang so if his daughter was to be killed by him personally...i hope he doesn't kill them unless is to finish their agonizing pain...i cannot root for a hero that does bad things for selfish reasons...that is why ww lost his grace...he was never deserving ... i know that keeping  HS alive is everything and the foremost thing to him...but  it is nonetheless a personal matter ....in the scope of things moral code and conduct...she wouldn't be happy with him knowing he killed innocent  people ....because there is a difference between 10 and yo...yo needed to be kept under control out of his bad intentions...not killed but it was an unintended  ,accidental act...and even then So felt so guilty...10 dead will hunt him in a whole different level....my guess is that ww is actually the dead  given instigator... 10 getting hit by 2 arrows on the back on HS vision, might be an indicator that  ww is the perpetrator,or so i hope ... so all moral liability   and responsibility  goes to him...i'm not trying to install a moral  code of conduct ,much less something that can be applicable in those times, is just that the idea of a hero, is someone whom is brave,loyal and has sense of right and wrong...even when he faces unfortunate events,if he sticks to his suffering and to his duty, he will come out victorious...and be rewarded as the hero,a good person , a good leader...in this case the seat to be king...i know this idea is far fetch  since there are a lot of psychological  factors that define human nature and decision making but it is an  archetypical characterization and something that we have come to value as a society...if So kills 10 and his wife for Hs life, he will be doing the same thing ww did when he abandon her for his lust for power and his family...good proper conduct is not easy to follow...we have this nature that is guided by our desires and our need to preserve life...but what is a life that has no basis or no solid foundations...for me its a meaningless life ...doing the right thing was never easy but nonetheless we do it ,not  because we are going to get something out of it ,or its going to make us happy ...we do it because we are capable of reason, and reason tells us that is the right thing to do...to think of life preciously and to treat orders how we want to be treated ...have good intentions and follow them. Korean society ,as i have observed, is a very strict nation when it comes to following social norms and expectations of moral conduct...so my guess is that they cannot root for a murderous ws no matter how good or how understandable his reasons are(keeping HS alive) so my hope is that they will have ww do all the evil planning and carrying all the evil deeds...of course we can counter attack  this argument but ultimately, it will be the  korean society...the public whom will dictate how   ws gets to be judge as a member  of  the society of his time ...not on a personal level...something that WS has  in abundance, it is precisely that..character ...and  the frame of a hero in the making...he does not need HS to teach him...I believe  that it is already integrated in his persona, how one should act or not...so he will personally know and judge himself on his doings... if he is doing the right or the wrong thing...I do not want the show to give him a weird 180 personality change,that often happens...but if they do..it will be hurting the flow of events and the trajectory thus far...you do not have the hero behave in a certain way for about 13 episodes ,so that later you can  have him change and be a total estranger  in the remaining episodes...not cool director ...if you go that way..Now, i know So is bound to change when the big  secret gets out...that HS was in love with WW...but that is not a model of conduct that we can see as far fetch since SO is such a lonely person and he gets easily jealous ...that is a whole other topic i will discuss later..if time and chores will allow it...i need to prioritize...then again doing the right thing is never an easy task...drama what have you done to me...bye everyone have a great day...wherever you might be...

[deabakdrama]

50 minutes ago, bebebisous33 said:

Wang So had to chose: either accept Wang Yo as the new king or have Hae Soo arrested for poisoning the king!! Wang Yo knows how to play people with their weaknesses... And it was CR's doing!! CR knew about the poisoning hence she went hiding. She really betrayed HAe Soo's trust. That's why Wang Mu died by drowning. The drug or poison affected him!

That's could be the reason why WS killed Wong Won after he has been throned. CR would reveal everything to WS and HS that she did what has been instructed her. 

[riuenu]

Thanks @MadraRua for the @ mention....just reach home and finally can spazz with you all!! I literally scream outside when I saw the kiss from the live update @AuroraRain provided in twitter! Thanks!! How to sleep tonight...hahahahhhahaha

Anyway, here to share some video of this sweet sweet episode!! 

All credit to @cuteLJG 

Failed to steal kiss x 2

Our long waited kiss, from Soo to So and from So to Soo

 

 And the rest here!

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[clarissasan]

10 minutes ago, AyaA said:

did anyone mentioned it?

before the kiss scene, WS asked HS, is the one she loved is Jung?

So he hasn't realized it yet that WW is HS's former lover.

Oh crapppo.. this will lead to a bigger problem

ahhh i noticed that too! 

I think that become one of possible reason for their separation later :''''''(( 

[magdale]

I'm pretty sure that CR was working with the 9th prince since before she started to work with HS, remember how they looked at each other when she was beaten by YH. Many of us thought that they would have a romantic relationship but I think there is something more.
The visions of Hae Soo will come true but not in the way she thought. I hope that if WS has to kill Eun, he will do for mercy and not because Yo is threatening him to kill HS.

Many a sad and difficult situations are coming, but finally HS accepted WS, she kissed him first and then he kissed her back. Oh my God! the moment was so beautiful 

[riuenu]

And here come my favourite OST :

Album cover in HD

[달의 연인 - 보보경심 려 OST Part 12] 악동뮤지션 (AKMU) - Be With You

 

[lilac_alex]

From memory both versions had the same scenes but EXTREMELY different sequencing! My brain is all jumbled because of the sequence and overall flow.  SBS version was more geared to start with Haesoo and Wangso scenes.

Nonetheless, the episode was eventful.  We had the following:

1) King Mo's madness.

2) Prince Wook - the current king's right hand/ adviser. Today he not so subtlety suggested to king to make him the next heir. uhmmm ok

3) Today was Soo's birthday.  Wang So couldn't decide what to give her as nothing was probably worthy in his eyes.  He ended up empty handed.  He decides to howl like a wolf to bring Hae Soo out her room and go star glazing and maybe try some slick moves.  Unlike tonight's baseball he was striked out at only at two swings.

4) Chaerong was being naughty.  It appears that she is not loyal to our hear Soo but to the sneaky 9th prince. tsktsk

5) Wang Yo is definitely alive and sporting a beard.

6) 13th Prince reunion with his sword dancing GG

7) 14th Prince falling deeply more for Haesoo. He is so moved by Soo's decision to hide him in exchange of lying to So and threatening to stab herself with one of those hairpins.

8) Wook siding with Yo.  Mom and sister are shocked and disagrees with his decision.

9) King Mo's death.  Soo being blamed by Yo and 9th prince for putting mercury in bath water.  

10) Wang So is definitely married to the princess.  However the deal is that she is to be sent to a temple.  As she is still young and cannot bear children she is considered as So's concubine. Haesoo discovers this piece of news from our newly married 10th prince.  She is of course sad and disappointed.  This matter is brought up when So drags Soo out in the open to talk about her hiding 14th prince.  She brings up the marriage equating it to So aiming for the King's seat (next heir).  However So explains that he did everything he could think of to avoid the marriage but it was the only way to save the princess from being sent to Khitan and also protect the King.  Soo wishes he had clarified earlier.  They made up and agrees not to lie to each other anymore.  

11) And finally we saw our HaeSo couple finally come together with a mutual understanding that they want to keep kissing each other without permission slips. Oh yeah! So said I Love You and So said don't ever forget that. 

[junejungki]

8 minutes ago, sunshinefate said:

I already have a plan that I will watch the last 3 episodes altogether because my heart also can't take it. Our OTP is just so pitiful. They just want to be happy with each other peacefully. Who does fate seem too cruel to them

haish!!!  I plan to do that too but I dont know if I can resist the temptation next week. Dilemma dilemma.

[lgjfanforever]

Hi guys.  I've been a lurker here for some time. Now I decided to make an account already and join in the fun!  It's also my first time here in soompi.

I am absolutely in love with this drama!!! specially LJG.     This episode is what drove me to finally comment in the forums. 

 Although the most awaited epic kiss happened I can't help but think it was kinda rushed. I would've enjoyed it a litlle bit more if WY didn't appear that fast. It would've been nice to just have ONE EPISODE OF PURE FLUFF AND soSoo ROMANCE. But HS and WS just can't catch a break. What will happen to them now?  I really hope CY and 9th prince will be executed. 

I hope WY's reign will last for only one episode. Because I can't wait when WS will get the throne and make HS his wife and have babies. That will be the best payback from all the BS our couple has gone through. 

 

 

 

 

[sunshinefate]

1 minute ago, may6 said:

I hope there is a plan behind  all this...10 and his wife should pretend to be dead or make it seems like it ....disappear from the scene and be happy elsewhere...i don't know how the general would support wang so if his daughter was to be killed by him personally...i hope he doesn't kill them unless is to finish their agonizing pain...i cannot root for a hero that does bad things for selfish reasons...that is why ww lost his grace...he was never deserving ... i know that keeping  HS alive is everything and the foremost thing to him...but  it is nonetheless a personal matter ....in the scope of things moral code and conduct...she wouldn't be happy with him knowing he killed innocent  people ....because there is a difference between 10 and yo...yo needed to be kept under control out of his bad intentions...not killed but it was an unintended  ,accidental act...and even then So felt so guilty...10 dead will hunt him in a whole different level....my guess is that ww is actually the dead  given instigator... 10 getting hit by 2 arrows on the back on HS vision, might be an indicator that  ww is the perpetrator,or so i hope ... so all moral liability   and responsibility  goes to him...i'm not trying to install a moral  code of conduct ,much less something that can be applicable in those times, is just that the idea of a hero, is someone whom is brave,loyal and has sense of right and wrong...even when he faces unfortunate events,if he sticks to his suffering and to his duty, he will come out victorious...and be rewarded as the hero,a good person , a good leader...in this case the seat to be king...i know this idea is far fetch  since there are a lot of psychological  factors that define human nature and decision making but it is an  archetypical characterization and something that we have come to value as a society...if So kills 10 and his wife for Hs life, he will be doing the same thing ww did when he abandon her for his lust for power and his family...good proper conduct is not easy to follow...we have this nature that is guided by our desires and our need to preserve life...but what is a life that has no basis or no solid foundations...for me its a meaningless life ...doing the right thing was never easy but nonetheless we do it ,not  because we are going to get something out of it ,or its going to make us happy ...we do it because we are capable of reason, and reason tells us that is the right thing to do...to think of life preciously and to treat orders how we want to be treated ...have good intentions and follow them. Korean society ,as i have observed, is a very strict nation when it comes to following social norms and expectations of moral conduct...so my guess is that they cannot root for a murderous ws no matter how good or how understandable his reasons are(keeping HS alive) so my hope is that they will have ww do all the evil planning and carrying all the evil deeds...of course we can center act this argument but korean society ,the public will guide how ws gets to be judge as a member  the society of his time ...not on a personal level...something that WS has  in abundance, it is precisely that..character ...and  the frame of a hero in the making...he does not need HS to teach him...I believe  that it is already integrated in his persona, how one should act or not...so he will personally know and judge himself on his doings... if he is doing the right or the wrong thing...I do not want to show to change to give him a weird 180 personality change,that often happens...but if they do..it will be hurting the flow of events and the trajectory thus far...you do not have the hero behave in a certain way for about 13 episodes ,so that later have him change and be a total estranger  in the remaining episodes...not cool director ...if you go that way..Now, i know So is bound to change when the big  secret gets out...that HS was in love with WW...but that is not a model of conduct that we can see as far fetch since SO is such a lonely person and he gets easily jealous ...that is a whole other topic i will discuss later..if time and chores will allow it...i need to prioritize...then again doing the right thing is never an easy task...drama what have you done to me...bye everyone have a great day...wherever you might be...

It's just about time when so finds out about hae soo and wook's past story. It's a really time bomb for them. I'm afraid So's anger and disappointment will lead to his ruthlessness because he feels lonely. I hope the writer will not go that path. At least, make them not misunderstand each other until they die. It will just be too tragic.

[valsava]

24 minutes ago, dears said:

 

 

Wang Gyu (10th prince grand father) is a powerful figure who support Wang Moo. Yo wants to eliminate 10th prince and his wife so Wang Gyu could not put his grandson on the throne and they (Wang Yo, 9th prince, Wang Wook) ordered Wang So to do the dirty job. Hence the crazy laugh of Wang So because he could not do anything but to obey because they had Hae Soo as a hostage. Now all the visions make sense. But Hae Soo's visions are mixed in order. That's why Hae Soo thought that Wang So will be a king first then had many people killed, while it was the other way around, many people died first, until Wang So grab the throne.

@dears  Ok thats what happened do HS understands noiw why he had to kill them in order to save her, Why do I think this will come out to be a big misunderstanding and she won't realizes the truth of the matter so get rid of the 10th was also doing a big favor for WW I hope WY backstabs him in the end.

27 minutes ago, violet90 said:

okay.... before we go to the sweet part.........

this is bad!! really bad..... WY know HS is WS weakness that's why he using HS to get to WS... even if WS ran away with HS or stay with HS in palace HS still going to be charge with poisoning the King.. maybe you don't get it but its mean every time WY need to use WS or making sure he do not revolt WY will use HS charge and her punishment will be death... scary as its seem WS put HS above everyone even above himself so he will do anything to save HS even its mean to serve WY.. 

about Eun.... if WS the one who killed Eun i think for ended his suffer it will change WS.. this one will make him ruthless... to protect the woman that he love and BA he will realize the only place safe is the throne.. 

gosh WY line.... a wolf only stay loyal to his one true mate.............................................. powerful line that the writer put to describe WS feeling to HS...

@violet90  I knew some how she would become his achilles heel everybody is goimg to use her WW told WY to use her to get So to do all the dirty work even removing his obstecles, This is so sad all he would do to keep her alive this is to much, So I'm thinking in the end HS health will worsen and she will be giving the same stuff as the CP.King and dies in the end because I can't see her leaving him after all he done to keep her alive and next to him..

31 minutes ago, angelangie said:

35 minutes ago, valsava said:

Well raw should be out off to watch please I'm begging please spare me a 30 page read within the hour

 

hahaha plus or minus i guess  

I decided to wait for the subs