[Drama 2016] Moon Lovers ❤ Scarlet Heart Ryeo, 달의 연인-보보경심 려 \^0^/ Soompi Kdrama 2016 Winner

[valsava]

On 9/22/2016 at 4:01 AM, bebebisous33 said:

Striking is that Hae Soo has not changed. I know, some people said that she had changed and were disappointed. Yet, I don't think, there is some inconstency here. Hae Soo is acting like before. She keeps seeing things beyond the appearances everytime. While people attach too much importance to the exterior, especially in Wang So's case, she sees the personality. In my opinion, she sees the real him now,

@bebebisous33  Hi, I'm agreeing with you that she's not afraid of him I think she knows because of what people say's about him he has used that as a shiled to cover himself so that no one sees the real him.. your right about she saw that in the very first episode as she was mesmarized by those eyes those eys look right in to his very soul.. I think she will confuse herself because of her premonition and from what she remeber from history will not add up to the person she's in contact with..   

[iridescentmoth]

Another thing to consider when examining the forced kiss is that men of that era were...well much more domineering than their 21st century counterparts, regardless of the complexities of Wang So's character. Our perceptions of consent are much more dubious in the Goryeo setting, it's not really applicable or justifiable to malign the writer when they are in fact contextually correct. 

Historically dramas require the suspension of modern views on integrity and principles, it's a much more immersive experience if you do. I don't watch pride and prejudice expecting Elizabeth to declare she's an independent woman who doesn't require Darcy's money because I know the social restrictions she was encumbered by. 

[gifanchy]

27 minutes ago, luci13 said:

The room isnt ordinary one. I wonder if it's a room used after her escape from the poison incident? Or maybe later when things got complicated and she's got promoted into higher position? 

Maybe So let her stay in his place?  

[taehumama]

14 minutes ago, iridescentmoth said:

Another thing to consider when examining the forced kiss is that men of that era were...well much more domineering than their 21st century counterparts, regardless of the complexities of Wang So's character. Our perceptions of consent are much more dubious in the Goryeo setting, it's not really applicable or justifiable to malign the writer when they are in fact contextually correct. 

Historically dramas require the suspension of modern views on integrity and principles, it's a much more immersive experience if you do. I don't watch pride and prejudice expecting Elizabeth to declare she's an independent woman who doesn't require Darcy's money because I know the social restrictions she was encumbered by. 

 

 

Totally agree with you

[KdramaAddict]

Finally here is my very first MV of any Kdrama Couple (I have made many for my indian show couples) but no couple ever before made me this much crazy to use my creative cap up...its very brief with  no transition or effects but just scenes...

Hope you enjoy and your inputs are welcome..

@junee22@kriswu@MadraRua@solelylurking@dhia205

 

[violet90]

if my guess is right the blood letter that she got is from chaeryung and she already with WS when he became a king if its follow the novel..

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in BBJX i think chaeryung will be Yu Tan.. she someone that close to Ruoxi also she is a spy for 9th prince....she being punish by 4th using a steam (well he is cruel but what he did is to warn other to not betray him)... Ruoxi hate 4th with her heart when he did this.. i mean he can just killed her but using a steam just make thing worse... also if what i think its right by now ( if the writer want to make this drama more melo and miserable) at this time HS should be pregnant and her relationship with WS is worse.. the only person that she can talk with is BaekAh...

 

remembering how miserable both Ruoxi and 4th at that point is just.............

[skxz]

WANDERING THOUGHTS

So there has been a lot of talk about whether this drama is doing well based on many factors (such as views, ratings, international attention, cast, storyline etc.). I absolutely agree that everyone is entitled to their thoughts and opinions but there are just a few things I feel the need to get this off my chest.

To me this drama is amazing for many reasons, that is why I am so active on this forum and continuously trying to find out more about the drama. Sometimes what I don’t understand especially on the internet, is why people seem to love defaming and hating on something. Why do people like stirring and creating such negative energy? Is it really necessary? If I don’t like something I stop watching, looking, reading it and move on. Isn’t that the most logical thing to do?

I was really saddened in the beginning where there was all this talk that the drama was going to flop because of IU’s acting and how it was KHN and LJK that was carrying this drama. Yes KHN and LJK are amazing actors there is no doubt about that but the rest of the cast puts in their own colour and skills just as equally. Sure some actors are better than others I mean there are designers, musicians, directors etc that are better than other designers, musicians, directors etc. and there’s nothing wrong with that. That just shows there’s room for improvement which is what individuals strive to achieve.

From the get go I thought the acting was fairly good. I do admit in the beginning it was slightly shaky but everything was smooth sailing from Ep 3 onwards. People who say IU can’t act I’m unsure of what their definition of acting is? I mean negative reviews are most certainly welcome and that’s how directors themselves improve but straight up hate because it’s not your cup of tea is just, I can’t fathom why people love to do that. And the funniest thing when I thought about this was MLSHR got so much hate after the first 2 episodes were released. Like seriously? You didn’t even give it a chance how do you know it’s bad? I don’t understand.

I feel like one of the reasons people are trying so hard to say how bad the drama is is because of how good-looking the whole cast is. On top of that the cinematography, costumes, and plot overall (to me) are amazing. I mean people hate it when things are perfect and they can’t help nitpick at the smallest and most irrelevant things. 

Which brings me to the next thing I wish to address, ratings. I am glad the ratings for this drama are increasing but I don’t feel like it something we need to refer to constantly as it does not give an accurate representation of anything. Firstly the ratings are only in South Korea which means it does not encompass the views accumulated by the rest of the globe. Sure ratings show the popularity of a show but if it doesn’t take into consideration the views from everywhere then isn’t it a little inaccurate. I’m not saying this to defend the ratings of MLSHR I’m saying this because it makes sense. This is like saying okay we are going to do a federal election but we are only going to let people from one town vote. Not sure how that’s an accurate representation of what everyone wants if it’s only the results of a small group of individuals. Secondly we Eclipses know how well this show is doing both domestically and internationally. But of course it has just exploded beyond South Korea. There are positive comments that I have seen translated from Korean websites which is also amazing.

I don’t tend to speak up about these things because it’s the internet and I mean sitting behind a screen you can say anything you want without facing and consequences. Since everyone is entitled to their own opinions people will always have opposing views and varying expectations on different things and that is absolutely fine. Constructive criticism is always welcome but snide and rude comments to drag something down and make it feel like crap I don’t believe in nor do I approve. It may make us angry but in the end we are just wasting our energy on something that is basically irrelevant to us. I mean if haters take their time to watch the drama and hate on it they’re wasting their time too right?

But I really felt the need to say this to my fellow Eclipses so you guys don’t get worked up by negative comments. I know what it's like when you love something so much and people just come and shoot you down. It's not a pleasant feeling but we learn to ignore and move on. We should all just enjoy this drama because we love it and it matters to us. We don’t need to defend that it’s good to people that what to talk badly about it because we know in our hearts it’s the best thing that’s ever happened to us. 

I hope Eclipses can continue to spread happiness, love and excitement and not get brought down by all the negative things said. I hope I haven’t offended anyone because that wasn’t my intention. I just want everyone to be in a good mood and enjoy this drama (while it lasts). Man that’s so sad to say but it’s so true. We don’t have time for the negativity. I hope everyone is having a wonderful week and are anticipating Monday because I sure am! 3 DAYS TO GO! I AM SO EXCITED!!!! Thanks for reading as always! This one is quite long (like everything I ever post hahahaha). I really appreciate it and it makes me just want to write more and share more with you guys LOTS OF LOVE xoxo 

 

~SKXZ~

[ChewyChocolate]

In response to Nicole's post about HS in the room , she's waiting for him to remove his makeup before joining her. It's hard when a guy has more makeup than you.

[Adnana]

7 minutes ago, KdramaSwimmer said:

Finally here is my very first MV of any Kdrama Couple (I have made many for my indian show couples) but no couple ever before made me this much crazy to use my creative cap up...its very brief with  no transition or effects but just scenes...

Hope you enjoy and your inputs are welcome..

@KdramaSwimmer I really like your FMV. The scene selection is very nice, and the music fits well. Just one suggestion: consider muting the sound in the scene cuts, so that it (i.e. the various OSTs, words and sounds made by the actors in the scenes) won't interfere with the Ellie Goulding audio track.

 

10 minutes ago, violet90 said:

if my guess its right the blood letter that she got is from chaeryung and she already with WS when he became a king if its follow the novel..

 

@violet90 But wasn't it said in a previous episode that Chaeryung can't read/write?

But good catch about HS holding a blood letter. I don't know how I could have missed that, with how many times I watched the long trailer.

[violet90]

@Adnana

she maybe learn to write to 9th prince cause they seem to have something going on... even in her description saying she like 9th prince so my guess she more than just HS maid.. i guess we will see when WS became a king... 

[KdramaAddict]

2 minutes ago, Adnana said:

I really like your FMV. The scene selection is very nice, and the music fits well. Just one suggestion: consider muting the sound in the scene cuts, so that it (i.e. the various OSTs, words and sounds made by the actors in the scenes) won't interfere with the Ellie Goulding audio track.

Thanks frnd..for liking it.

i dint mute the video cause someone suggested this way it wont be included for song infringement... so not sure will it work or not still used the advice.

[meahri_1]

@zi4r I thoroughly enjoyed your post, chingu. Please unlurk more often and share. I LOVE everything about this drama and have wanted to bring up all the topics that you mentioned, but have not had the time. I have always believed that many of the things that have bothered many of us on the thread -- everything you touched on, save the editing and OST choices -- are the very things that make this drama very special. Without these, it would be very boring indeed. On a positive note, I think some of the reactions from our chingu, regarding the character flaws or scenes that we've discussed, do come from them investing in and feeling so much for our primary characters. It's always a good thing when a drama can inspire so much emotion in its viewing audience...just so long as it continues to retain their interest and they continue to watch till the end. 

Based on what we've seen so far, I think the cast and the production team should be very proud of what they've accomplished and put together. I hope all their hard work will be acknowledged and rewarded, because they truly deserve it. In fact, I'm hoping to see Joongi nominated for best actor. I've loved many of his prior roles, but I haven't seen him shine as much as he does in the role of Wangso. 

EDIT:

Chingu, MORE GOOD NEWS!!  One of our members here, @sukbin mentioned MLSHR being #1 in Malaysia as well as Singapore. It's being shared now in Twitter.

Here's the article: http://www.hellokpop.com/news/one-scarlet-heart-malaysia-singapore/

 

[Akiddo]

4 hours ago, Nicole Hilario said:

Saw this in the trailer. What do u guys think? 

Yorobun...you really want to know? Not a pretty picture. 

Spoiler

From what i can see, Soo is holding a letter written in blood from Chae Ryung. This is her confession letter to Soo on her relationship with 9th Prince and the betrayal that caused a rift between So and Soo. So punished Chae Ryung by death - not sure if it would be as gruesome as BBJX as Yu Tan was steamed to death. I almost vomited when i watched that episode. 9th Prince might have taught Chae Ryung how to read and write. If you watched that episode when Soo asked Chae Ryung to read - Chae Ryung had a split second to think before replying that she couldn't read. 

The issue was made worse when Ruoxi found out she was pregnant (after she fainted from witnessing Yu Tan's death). It was downhill from there and I cried bucket loads. 

Soo is in this room because So wants to see her whenever possible. This is one of the King's chambers. Rouxi in BBJX was never given a title because once given - he would have to flip the wooden cards every evening among all his concubines. He just wanted to keep her close by at all times. Every enunch, servant knew that Ruoxi was extremely special to the Emperor and treated her very carefully. 

I hope I am wrong. 

[dhia205]

@junee22 

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boleh... mau bagian atas apa bawah?? Lol

 

@Mona Ys get in line please, older first 

@KdramaSwimmer he need a real one in order to exceled it... hope Youtube work, i'm waiting for your Fmv

 

 

[KdramaAddict]

2 minutes ago, dhia205 said:

 

 

@KdramaSwimmer he need a real one in order to exceled it... hope Youtube work, i'm waiting for your Fmv

 

 

already done..posted above and tagged you too

[junee22]

Okay..before I forgot and before the thread jumps to 650..I want to say something..

@KdramaSwimmer Omooooo...I just couldn't stop grinning..literally..from ear to ear..when I saw this..sadly only for 1 minute..hope you could made it again when there are more eps to come..my opinion..LOVE IT..just love it..thank you dear..(I was like haaahhh... )

[ruzikie]

@KdramaSwimmer Gosh Wang So under the sun was very good and ellie goulding, shall i scream and say thanks for you ? SUGOIIIIIIII WANJEON SUGOIIII. すごいですね〜

[TheRoadNotTaken]

the 2nd vid was funny lol Lee Joon Gi "Yaaa! Who was that? Who aimed for my head *while threatening with a tree leaf*" lol 

 

 

[gifanchy]

38 minutes ago, KdramaSwimmer said:

Finally here is my very first MV of any Kdrama Couple (I have made many for my indian show couples) but no couple ever before made me this much crazy to use my creative cap up...its very brief with  no transition or effects but just scenes...

Hope you enjoy and your inputs are welcome..

@junee22@kriswu@MadraRua@solelylurking@dhia205

 

Even with no transitions/effects, I LOVE IT <333

My heart stopped at the chorus  The scenes you picked were perfect!

[valsava]

22 minutes ago, skxz said:

To me this drama is amazing for many reasons, that is why I am so active on this forum and continuously trying to find out more about the drama. Sometimes what I don’t understand especially on the internet, is why people seem to love defaming and hating on something. Why do people like stirring and creating such negative energy? Is it really necessary? If I don’t like something I stop watching, looking, reading it and move on. Isn’t that the most logical thing to do?

@skxz Hi, I enjoyed reading your thoughts in regards to this drama.. I feel you on that but I like it when all the negative talk about this drama goes on for I find it funny those that speaks negative of it has to be watching in order to speak on it.. So I have a saying that I been using since I was a teenage girl talk about me all you want is when you quit talking about me is when I should worry.. So be it good are bad it's all good..