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@Mercipourleslivres Yes. Me too. What a way to describe his mum. A black hole that breaks down and consumes anything that comes near it and make it its own. No matter how you try to fill up the black hole, it will never be filled. And No matter what you say, the black hole will not respond. I can feel his hopelessness and helplessness towards his mum.
It is really creepy that she doesn’t acknowledge that it was what she wants but gives lame excuses such as uncle suggested it, or XCZ wants it etc... No wonder XCZ, with less patience, calls her out and points out the obvious. And that smile she has on is the worst... So not congruent. You can feel the unspoken wrath and malice she feels but she is smiling calmly... eeewwww
it was really quite funny reading how some Chinese netizens (male) complained about having difficulties falling asleep after seeing her character on tv.
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@rocky689 I doubt XCZ and ZQ will end up as a couple. My sense is that she treats ZQ as a big brother she never has. LX looked miserable when he was with his mum and she probably felt with her too since she had never seen him happy until he was with JJ. She probably felt LX took care of her because he had no choice. With ZQ, perhaps, she felt he cared and saved her from the drunkard even though they were not related.
If Writers make the 2 of them a couple... I am going to have words with them. This is too forced.
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LX’s mum planned to move to China even when she was in Singapore. When confronted by LX, she denied it. She did not take into consideration XCZ’s well being. How can she not prepare XCZ for this? Expecting XCZ to leave her friends and her country suddenly? And XCZ has not even completed her studies? She acted on her whims. She is really selfish, and in denial.
Ling Ba pointed out how mentally stressed LX has been. Told her he is on medication. Even told her JJ has helped LX and he seemed better because of her. And LX really loves JJ. Advised her to learn to like JJ. Yet, she chooses to hurt JJ. She has pushed LX to the edge when he saw JJ crying.
Although it is good for LX to make it clear to his mum how much JJ means to him, I fear for his mental health... drama gods pls do not draw this out too long. I prefer to see more happy moments between LX, JJ, ZQ, TC, MY and even the 2 dads since drama is ending soon.
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MY’s confrontation with mum is quite painful to watch. Her mum really believed she had done her best for her child. She believed her way is the best way. She could not see things from MY’s point of view. MY wanted to experience life, be allowed to make mistakes etc. I can’t believe her mum would even entertained the thought that TC is the cause of MY’s “change in behaviour”. Took MY all her strength to confront her mum.
I am reminded to take into consideration other person’s point of view and try to understand differences. If I can’t agree, I can at least respect the differences.
Looks like LX’s dad is stepping up in Episode 40! Drama gods heard our cries.
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I am thinking how Little Orange feels about moving back to China? Little Orange may not want to move back to China since she grew up in Singapore. The mother is not making sound decision...
Oh dear... I just saw a clip of the latest episode... Little Orange wanted to go back to Singapore... mum ignored her wishes...
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@funnypeopleswim I agree LX is the mature one, evident in the points u made. He was always (as JJ puts it) cleaning up after ZQ’s and JJ’s mess.
I think the Writers created both ZQ and LX as very realistic characters with serious flaws due to trauma they faced as well as their personalities. ZQ believed he was given up because he was a liability. He worked hard to make himself useful. LX believed he was given up because he was guilty of killing his sister. I think he didn’t believe he deserved to be loved and that he deserves punishment until Li Ba and JJ came into his life. During the period when mum met with the accident, his uncle criticised him for not shedding tears, made reference to sister’s death and insisted that he had to take care of his mum. It didn’t help that his mother was too weak to face her mistake and blamed it on LX. It didn’t help that she was so depressed in Singapore that she sought multiple times to end her life not being able to care how her behaviour is hurting her children. LX probably viewed it as his due punishment. And he deserved the hell hole he was living in Singapore. He needs to know the sister’s death was an accident which he could not have done much. He tried to get help but they were locked in. He had done what he could as a young child. His mother on the other hand need to come to terms that in this accident she has a responsibility to play and get therapy. I think she couldn’t face the responsibility thus she shifted the blame on LX. Perhaps with that acceptance, she will free herself from the guilt and start seeing why she chose to locked the children at home (maybe for safety reasons?), or that it was really an accident with serious consequences to pay. And that is life.
I find it horrible that after many years, her not facing up is going to continue to haunt people around her. LX, little orange, JJ etc. She is blinded to how people r reacting towards her behaviour. That calm exterior covers up a seriously ill person. She would say things that meant to hurt with a smile. That is not ok. She is angry but covers up with a smiling exterior. Eg. She referenced JJ causing harm to little orange (the incident that was an accident due to little orange being careless when they were younger), after meeting JJ at LX’s apartment. Her speech to Li Ba and Ling Ba at LX’s birthday dinner with a calming smile but meant to cause hurt... That is mental illness to me.
I really think that if she continues, and LX doesn’t gain insight that he is not at fault for sister’s death... LX will get a mental breakdown.
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@Dundee I hoped not. But according to the previews, based on what they r wearing, it is the same day LX told JJ that his mum and little orange not going back to Singapore and r looking at apartments near their place. Also, the same day LX kissed JJ in front of his mum and little orange.
@cheekychipmunk_stv I don’t think the hospital scene is the one when mum had the accident. I don’t recall LX smiling at her in the hospital. There’s also a scene where they showed LX holding the mum’s hand in the hospital... is it a reconciliation of sorts?
@luluponyazn Yes. It was like a joke. The actress who acted as LX’s mum asked why she didn’t get food and the backstage crew replied because her character is too hateful.
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@rainbowbrite Thank you so much for the info. I think that’s the book too. I remembered the boy tucked in a corner with books much like LX. Makes me want to read the book. I wonder how the book ended.
Btw, I love Jimmy Liao’s art. The colours r beautiful and I have 2 books in my collection.
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@cheekychipmunk_stv My question is why is Little Orange staying overnight at JJ’s place?
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@turtlegirl I think the book is one of Jimmy Liao’s (a famed Taiwanese artist) creation. It looked like his artwork. But not sure which book though...
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@Mercipourleslivres I reactivated my account just to air my thoughts about this show too.
Anyway, I hope the mum lying in hospital bed scene is in the context that she is receiving help in the mental hospital voluntarily. That will be most ideal.
Apparently, LX’s mum is such a hated character that in one of the clips from the production team showed that the crew refused to feed the actress proper meals and passed her uncooked instant noodles.The following discussion contains spoilers.
SpoilerI was so heart broken to see LX looking so insecure when JJ looked surprised at his sudden proposal. He had to cover up and say not now but after he had earned enough to buy her an apartment... And the scene where he kissed her in front of his mum, he had tears in his eyes when she ran off...
Not sure how to interpret his actions for these 2 scenes. Perhaps with context, it will not look so bad. As of now, I felt, LX gave the impression that he is acting out of desperation in the 2 scenes. He is reaching out to her to be saved from his mum’s clutches... JJ’s reactions made him feel insecure... I don’t like this. He needs to resolve this feeling like he owes his mum a debt that cannot be paid.
Another scene also showed LX’s younger sister appearing in ZQ’s cafe again... Netizens were livid with anger because they r worried that the 2 will become a couple...
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11 minutes ago, phuong1317 said:
I was prepared for a blowout because I thought it was ending tomorrow but it seems like it got extended from 40 to 46 episodes ending Sunday the 6th I really need to stop watching seeing LX mom is pissing me off way too much he really needs to stand up for himself if not he’s only going to drag JJ into the hellhole of his mom since she wants to stay in China and is even looking for a house near him
You r kidding... No wonder, today’s episodes were so unsatisfactory. Looking at tomorrow’s 2 episodes, LX looks on the verge of a nervous breakdown... it is really scary to live with a manipulative person who holds one ransom... LX, it is not your fault your sister died. That woman who left you and held you ransom in Singapore, is the person who is at fault. You r not responsible for the crazy person. You r free to love and be loved.
I’m really worried that LX, with his insecurities, is thinking that JJ wants to leave him... in addition, with his mum’s manipulative demands, he may have a mental breakdown...
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@ElleSor My heart breaks for LX too. I doubt the mother will leave on her own accord. Hopefully, LX realises the sister’s death isn’t his fault and he owes his mum nothing and breaks away from her. She is selfish, highly insecure and manipulative. Like a leech sucking the victim dry if allowed.
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@cheekychipmunk_stv I totally agree. Like what JJ’s dad said, the adults r not brave enough to acknowledge their mistakes. LX’s dad definitely need to step up and apologise for not standing up for his son. And for once, tell the ex-wife she is not well and need help. I remembered one of the early episodes, the dad held on to LX who wanted to escape the scene where LX’s mum was shouting and screaming at the dad. I was thinking he should have protected LX then and let him leave the scene rather than holding onto him. Albeit, LX’s mother was quite scary when she was going crazy. It was so traumatising to have a young child witnessed his mother going crazy.
kudos to the actress who acted as LX’s mum... she really scares me...
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Poor LX. In another new clip on the unaired episodes, it showed LX’s mum cutting up photos of LX, JJ and ZQ when they were teenagers. She is really mentally unsound.... LX told his dad he has stopped having nightmares of his dead sister and asked his dad whether that means his dead sister has forgiven him and he has paid off whatever he owed his mum...
LX took care of his mum in Singapore and endured his mum’s mood swings because he felt he needed to pay for his “crime” of “killing” his sister...
LX’s mum should take a good look at herself in the mirror. She being the adult who locked two young kids at home without supervision has to bear the responsibility of guilt in this accident and not LX. What made her guilt trip LX using this accident to tie him to her side. She really is a failure as a mother and a horrible person.
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The way LX’s mum expresses her “love” for LX is to declare ownership. Since coming back to China, she went around making sure people knew LX is her son (as if he is an object to be owned). Eg. Going to his workplace, giving gifts, thanking his colleagues for taking care of him, letting JJ’s dad know she is the mother and he is not related to him, paying the cake ZQ baked for LX’s birthday as if ZQ has no right to give LX a gift for his birthday. The way she loves is so tiring. As if LX cannot have any other relationship. No wonder he has recurring nightmares of her.
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What I love about Encounter...
To me this drama tries to show forth various expressions of love.
I am particularly inspired by JH’s expressions of love for his friends, family, enemies and especially for SH. Watching how JH expresses his love for people around him, I am reminded of this quote from apostle Paul to the Corinthians.
“Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.”
We saw how JH treated his mum, so gentle and kind. When mum confessed her actions to him, he was gentle to help her see that he was certained she loves him and she did it because she had no idea how much he loves SH. He was careful to help her see that SH understood mum’s behaviour too. He was not angry and kept no records of her wrongdoing. I cried at that scene. Putting myself in mum’s shoes, it would have been so touching to be handled in this manner by someone whom I had hurt.
I am especially touched by how JH trusts, hopes and perseveres in the face of SH’s uncertainties and fears. At first, he considered to break off with her because he thought his love for her had trapped her in feeling guilty for causing hurt to people around her. After remembering his promises to her and seeing how she was happy with him, he chose to trust, to hope and to persevere.
To some, JH maybe too idealistic but I liked how SH put it across to her Mother who was saying hurtful things to SH after her Father was taken away by the investigators. SH’s mum was hurting and she said many things that hurt SH. She wanted to make SH feel guilty by telling her her Father confessed because of he wanted her to be freed from Taegyeong group. She told SH she was regretting confessing to the investigators and told SH not to feel grateful towards her. She told SH she was hard hearted person and would survive this ordeal so SH didn’t need to be kind to her. SH responded by telling her mum that both of them should try to encourage each other in times of hurt. Mum replied with pragmatic “how will that help?” SH did not give up but told mum that’s how some lived and even if it was uncomfortable and even if it didn’t work, they should practice encouraging each other.
Perhaps that’s what being idealistic is all about, to convince the realist or pragmatic side of us to just believe, just trust and just hope even when it is difficult. Perhaps practice will make permanent the ideals.
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3 hours ago, ihyw said:
Sorry for cutting your post. Would never have thought of that parallel: JH like WS not protecting SH from his mother. Yikes, that's really horrible. I hope JH would have protected SH if he knew his mother had contacted her. I don't think he would have stood by like WS watching the degradation and just giving her an expensive consolation gift afterwards. But JH not directly confronting his mother at breakfast, his acting as though nothing had happened, was really weird though. You are right. How could he not say anything when his mother hurt SH like that.
My take on JH's character is that he is a sensible man who measures his words and actions carefully. He puts a lot of thoughts and consideration into his words and actions. He doesn't return evil with evil out of anger. He doesn't hurt or tries to be rude even when he disagrees with a person's actions.
When he was confronted by SH's mum, WS's mum and recently WS, he was not rude and did not react impulsively. He did not let SH know about these meetings as he knew she would feel guilty and worry incessantly.
In the recent meeting with WS, when WS mentioned that SH was his woman whom he fell in love with at first sight. JH with very measured words told WS that SH was a woman that people fall in love with (almost telling WS that he could understand that WS was still in love with SH) and corrected WS to say that addressing SH as his woman was a one-sided action and he would ignore it. And when WS continued to intimidate JH by putting him down as a young ordinary man and JH should seek out another partner more suitable for him. JH responded to say that there's not right or wrong in love and love just happens. He would use his ways to take care of SH.
Again, when WS met JH in the hotel after he became co-CEO, WS told JH when JH commented that WS's actions were hurting SH whom WS expressed to love. WS replied JH that he joining the hotel as a co-CEO was acting out of desperation to protect what he loved (SH) and challenged JH to see whether his bravery would prevail or his desperation. JH responded saying that he was not privy to WS' past or his experiences, thus it was not his place to judge but deliberately hurting someone was not ok for him.
For me, JH spoke his mind with firmness and gentleness without the intent to shame or hurrt WS even when WS was anything but kind. He gave the impression that he was not trying to judge WS' actions but only to reflect to him how he was hurting SH.
Even how he spoke to HI when she went direct to SH about JH being sent to Sokcho. Although he disagreed with HI for going direct to SH, JH responded with kindness.
I don't get a sense that JH is someone who will suffer in silence or he is a pushover. He seemed to operate based on his own principles or moral compass. He not confronting his mother directly for telling SH to break up with him behind his back was not because he couldn't care for SH's feelings. He ran towards her and hugged her and asked her why she didn't tell him. Comforting her for the hurt his mother had inflicted on her was the first thing he thought to do. He wanted to talk to her about it. He did not react like WS who bought SH expensive material things after his mother hurt SH which made her feel like he was buying her over.
Moreover, I feel JH was thinking carefully how to relate to his mother's concerns. If he were to show his hurt and pain, it might further confirm for JH's mother that SH was such a terrible partner and her father's scandal was affecting JH. He had to swallow all the pain and put up a brave front for his mum so that she would not think worse of SH and her family. He knew he couldn't change his mum's way of thinking overnight thus he needed more time and careful planning to win this war.
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26 minutes ago, stardustvoid said:
@bubblechoco Ask and ye shall receive
Anyway, I know we are all happy that JH is gonna fight for his love for SH but, correct me if I'm wrong because I'm basing this off the recaps tonight, what can he do exactly to change her mind? I'm not mad at her character, I'm just confused as hell. She ended things with him, she even took off her ring, then somehow the writer wants us to believe that she'll have a complete turnaround in the last 60 minutes of the show? I just cannot comprehend this, I'm sorry. Someone enlighten me? I promised to stay away for the night but this just keeps nagging at me
And what can SH do on her part to save the relationship? Because from what I've gathered, she was already ready to carry on with her life? I'm so confused.
ETA: @dianss23 I think it would be best to put that under the spoiler tag?
My sense is that SH is still very much in love with JH. Her taking off her ring etc just show to us she lacks the confidence that they being together will bring him happiness. Possibly, she fears that they will have to part eventually when her very public life becomes too unbearable for JH or his family so might as well end it earlier.
Thus, if JH refuses to leave even when she pushes him away, she will cave in and come back to him.
In the earlier episode, she attempted to leave JH after she read about him receiving bad press from media because of her. He refused the break up but gave her space instead. SH went to look for JH once she realised she missed him and needed him in her life.
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14 minutes ago, vvpal said:
I don't like it either, but he filmed in Cuba, so I had to fit him into the picture. I'll trade 15 minutes of kissing for 3 minutes on El Malecon beach and 3 more minutes on the balcony/room at Hotel Havana.
Wow... u got my imagination running on full gear...
Let’s be greedy and go big. I propose 3 mins kissing at El Malecon beach, 3 mins kissing at the balcony and 9 mins kissing (and more) in the room.
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Just now, vvpal said:
I totally agree the cafe will play a part. And if I may add:
SH goes to Cuba as planned, determined to break up with JH. JH goes to Cuba in pursuit, determined to change her mind. Ex-husband goes to Cuba with expectations that he can now win SH because she has broken up with JH.
Final scene, SH and JH back on El Malecon beach, watching the sunset, kissed (3 minutes on our screen).
I like your rendition but I’ll take away ex-Husband part so that we can extend kiss scene at El Malecon beach from 3 minutes to 15 mins.
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SH has gone through so much pain emotionally. Crazy in laws who were not only controlling but abusive emotionally. Crazy parent who sacrificed her daughter to satisfy her greed for power. Gossip hungry media who feed on her every move. It is no wonder she lacks the confidence to bring happiness to JH. She needs a determined JH who will not give up easily and have enough courage and forgiveness for both of them to stay and not leave no matter what.
You go JH!
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Please don’t frighten me... nobody is going to disappear right? SH is not going to disappear in Cuba and JH is not too right?
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Just now, ahdrianaa said:
Wow, this mom is a special case. She is ready to ignore JH suffering in front of her eyes.
I got my wish! SH and her mom are working through issues, SH reminds mom of her past. SH says she used to admire her mom, that she was just as cool as her father. Her mom was a news anchor for the morning news, SH tells her that she used to watch every day. SH tells her that she remembers going to galleries with her mom in the past, her love for paintings comes from her mom. She wants her mom to start life again by managing a gallery.
Mom asks her why she is being so kind to her, SH says because we are mother and daughter.
SH Leaves, mom cries because she remembers
the time when SH has said the same thing in the past and how cruel the mom had been to SH.
That’s beautiful! SH has made peace with her mum. There’s hope in this relationship.
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[Mainland Chinese Drama 2020] Go Ahead 以家人之名
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@Mercipourleslivres Human relationships r complicated and nobody is perfect. The show definitely gave us a glimpse of what reality is like. Many of us can identify with different aspects of the show. Even JJ’s dad confessed that him not asking more was because he wanted to believe good reports so that he didn’t need to deal with the bad ones. He felt incompetent to do so.
I love the show for giving hope amidst darkness. Even if LX felt powerless against his mum’s behaviour, nothing he did can change her, at least he is loved by JJ, ZQ, his dad and JJ’s dad. They seemed to be his protective factors. That allowed him to endure the difficulties in Singapore. He quietly plodded on until he saw a sliver of light and his mum decided to start physiotherapy. I love how Ling Ba did not criticise the ex wife in front of LX. He even tried to reframe her moving to China to be a positive thing. She is now moving back home where more people can play a part to take care of her and lighten LX’s load. I like it that JJ, ZQ or JJ’s dad did not openly criticise LX’s mum to LX too. That respectful act allowed LX the space and time to deal with his mum his way.