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1 minute ago, bubblechoco said:
Will Sec Jang tells Jinhyuk about their Cuba trip so that he could come?
That’s a great idea! She should pass her ticket to him.
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Sigh... can there be a ray of light to this long tunnel of darkness...
SH run away with JH to Cuba NOT Sec Jang! Leave this insane place where everyone seems to have an idea what happiness for both of you should be without consulting you.
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Seeing both SH and JH so sad makes me so upset with JH’s Mum’s meddling... I hope she quickly redeem herself. How can 2 considerate and loving persons be in so much pain... everyone who knows them can see their sadness... JH’s mum... please stop this pain...
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2 minutes ago, ahdrianaa said:
He tells her to stop saying such things, they have many more memories to make. She tells him that she has given it a lot of thought.
He apologizes to her that he is not in a position to help her but he wants to stand by her and protect her. She tells him that like how she is precious to him, he is also precious to her.
he breaks down and asks her how she could throw him away. She tells him she could never throw him away, it’s her letting him go.
She says she is going to get up and leave. He grabs her hand,she slowly pulls her hand away.
This is beyond sadness... her breaking up words contained so much pain.... poor SH... poor JH.
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I am not a fan of JH’s mum actions. And yes, I love @bebebisous33 analogy of the preserved tangerines as a symbol of devastating love of JH’s mum. Too sweet for one’s welfare.
I believe parents should not rush in to “save” their children from pain. Of course, I’m not talking about life threatening types. Pain (when not life threatening) has its purpose in life. As a parent, when we rush in to “save” our child, we deprive them of a chance to learn and grow from the process of handling pain. We also inadvertently made our child less tolerant of pain. So even if JH’s mum’s “rescuing” JH from pain by asking SH to break up is from a place of good intention, it is a no no for me. That’s why in my earlier post I said her behaviour was impulsive.
I do see hope for her though. She had shown that she was conflicted. She was drinking on her own. In the preview, she mentioned she will sow what she reap. She was crying when she said that. Perhaps she knew what she had done was wrong and the negative effects her actions carried. That’s good. To me, that meant that she wasn’t ok with what she did. She felt guilty. Compare this with WS’s mum and SH’s mum. They never express guilt or pain for their behaviour.
Hopefully, JH’s mum will right what had done.
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I can’t help but rewatch Park Bo Gum’s crying scene and Song Hye Kyo’s seated by the bed crying scene... My poor babies...
Who can remain immune to that outpouring of sadness...
Those 2 can really act. I’m so impressed. The emotions are raw and painful. I will brave through the pain because these 2 put in so much effort to convey their emotions. Standing ovation for 2 wonderful actors.
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For SH’s mum, I suspect it all started with greed for power. That’s why she pushed her Husband into politics. But somewhere, after taking money from Taegyeong group, she knew she had lost control. That’s why she could sell her daughter to Taegyeong group, she had to kneel before WS’s Mother. WS’s mum can destroy them, using the threat of them receiving money...
But now, with SH’s Father coming out to confess, the family can finally be freed from Taegyeong group’s clutches.
I think SH’s Father will sacrifice himself, take the blame for the whole thing. Mum will not be implicated. Perhaps, then she will learn to love...
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22 minutes ago, stardustvoid said:
You know what’s really eating me up? Like I know in my heart this will be a happy ending.
I’m just dreading that this happy ending of ours will only be shown in the last minutes of episode 16. I know I sound like a broken record but that’s what scares me the most
So please, drama gods, make all the angst go away before episode 15 ends!
I believe they will give us a good ending with ample fan service. After all that crying, there needs to be some serious make out sessions with inseparable passionate kisses to soothe away the pain.
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Park Bo Gum crying is so difficult to watch... I was crying with him... This man can really act.
Dear chingus... it is very clear to me that both of them will get back together. Watching Song Hye Gyo cry last week and Park Bo Gum’s inconsolable breakdown now... no sane person will accept these scenes without the salve of a good ending. We will get it cos both writernim and PDnim know that there will be violence, serious violence if they don’t give it to us.
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7 minutes ago, NongpeeP said:
I noticed something similar to your comment, CSH's father did not visit his late friend who is Director PR's older brother for a big while. CSH's father also mentioned that he felt guilty to his friend for being someone his friend might not be okay.
I noticed that too. I think a few episodes ago (someone has already mentioned here), SH’s parents were arguing and father mentioned something about mum taking money for their home down payment or something and father thought it was a loan from the bank. It was actually money from Taegyeong group. I think along the way, father had to deviate somewhat from his political ideologies for Taegyeong’s purposes. Perhaps, he felt too guilty to visit his friend’s niche because of that.
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Just now, avondale16 said:
I like all the questions, hypothesis and theories.
Will someone go to prison for the punishment of taking the bribes?
I am thinking SH’s father will definitely suffer some serious consequences. He had already taken steps to prepare for that. He had asked the other politician to take care of his political party. As for SH’s MIL, I am not sure how she will worm her way out but her business will definitely suffer the bad reputation.
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I am not convinced our OTP will part ways for good. But I am curious what SH has in mind when she was thinking of parting ways with JH.
Knowing JH, he will not accept her excuses. She will not be able to convince him that she has a change of mind and she no longer loves him. Moreover, SH will not want to hurt JH like how she was hurt when WS divorced her (she hated being gossiped and ridiculed because of WS’s “affair”). I am really curious what she had in mind to part ways with JH in a way that will not tarnish his reputation.
Will she “disappear” from his sight? Go into hiding? Will she declare publicly that JH is too good for her? Not sure how she is going to do that though. Perhaps, she knew about her parents’ misgiving (taking bribes from Taegyeong group) and will use that as a reason (after her parents confess publicly) to part ways with JH?
Like how some of you have mentioned here that she had gone all out (in ep 14) to make it known publicly that she was very much in love with JH. I suspect she is going to part ways with him such that the public will continue to believe that she is in love with him and problem does not lie with him but her.
Anyways, I have faith in JH’s abilities to love her and help her find her way back to him. To me, he is that stable, dependable and mature.
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I am not sure whether I am hallucinating but do any of you remember seeing Park Bo Gum cry in one of the Encounter teasers? I remember seeing a scene where Bo gum, seated in a car, was crying... I remember saying to myself “wow, that was some intense acting.” I have been searching for it but couldn’t find that scene. I really hope it was just a terrible nightmare I had due to Song Hye Gyo’s and Park Bo Gum’s immersive and superb acting.
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Watching ep 13 & 14 gave me some insights:
- Courage and Weakness are 2 sides of a coin.
To start a relationship requires courage. When JH saw SH being publicly ridiculed at the workplace, took a courageous step forward to ask her out for ramyeon. When JH was described as a stalker in a press conference, SH declared that JH and her are in a pre- relationship stage.
As relationship grows, the heart cares more, fears gnaw away courage and weakness begins
JH, after being confronted by WS, was fearful that his love for SH might be a burden to her. To protect her, he lied that dinner at his family’s was postponed so that she could attend ex Father in law’s death anniversary. Similarly, SH was tormented when she saw JH and family suffered for being thrown into limelight. She toyed with the idea of breaking up with him.
- Tears can be testament of growth
When the heart is opened to love, feelings can overwhelm indifference.
Being in a relationship with JH, experiencing how precious she was to JH, SH was no longer indifferent. She expressed her feelings. She cried when JH mum asked her to break up with JH. The ice princess is now a warm hearted human being.
So much to learn from this show.
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41 minutes ago, bebebisous33 said:
Since JH is seen on the other side of the lake, this means that CSH is first on her own but JH still remains by her side, as he keeps following her but in the other world. This could mean that JH and CSH have to deal with this issue on their own. JH needs to deal with his own mother, I hope, she gets aware of the consequence of her intervention.
Adding to bebebisous33’s comments:
I think the pool/lake reflecting JH instead of JH walking next to SH implies SH and JH now share the same stance. Much like how a mirror reflects an image. It seems like SH is reflected as JH in the lake and vice versa.
I read that to mean that SH and JH are now reflections of each other. Perhaps this means that SH is as determined and brave (like JH) to protect the relationship in the face of opposition. They are now really in unison.
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20 minutes ago, yonaomi123 said:
I think when she said all that about how women should live quietly with their husbands and children, in the early episodes, JinHyuk's mother really meant what she said. I had thought at the time that maybe she was making a subtle dig at her husband and feeling a little sad about lost opportunities for herself. But apparently not! (which is fine, for her, because that's her choice)
But to ignore her son's decision to not live with a woman who has those same beliefs isn't right. He's an adult and he deserves the opportunity to make up his own mind.
URGH!! This writer. They're really hitting us over the head with all of the societal issues.
I see it differently....
If she really meant it, she should practice what she believed. By talking to SH behind JH’s back, she was meddling. No matter how she feels about their relationship, she should not ask SH to end it. This is no different than when SH’s mum went to JH to ask him to stay away from SH. JH’s mum had been portrayed as a gentle, simple, family-loving, the last few episodes... but this episode, she showed her insecurities and impulsivity. When JH father knew about their relationship, he spoke to JH. He withheld his judgement and carefully spoke to SH to have a sense of her and her feelings. JH mum spoke to no one, not even her son but made up her mind that SH was not a suitable partner for JH and sought to separate them.
I am hoping this is just a knee-jerk reaction from mum and that JH dad and JH will be able to show her a different perspective.
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What is JH’s mum thinking? Is she uncomfortable now that her family is thrust into the limelight? Is that her way of protecting her family? Is she jealous of SH and secretly hope for JH never to find true love?
The fact that she refused to talk to her son about SH spoke volumes. She probably knew how JH felt towards SH. She knew it would be a lost cause to try to convince JH to leave SH. Perhaps she is fearful of knowing how much JH loves SH.
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7 hours ago, bebebisous33 said:
@ahdrianaa Well, my problem with CSH's mother is that she is not admitting any wrongdoing, while the father has...
I totally agree with you on SH’s mum. For me, the most annoying character in this series is SH’s mum.
She is a very immature, whiny, vain, spoilt brat of a woman. She whined, threw temper tantrums when things didn’t go her way. When nobody gave in to her wants, she issued threats and threw insults. SH and her dad should be given a Nobel peace award for enduring her antics for so many years.
It was so painful to watch that scene when SH’s mum scolded SH for being selfish and told her off for destroying her dad’s political career. What a laughable attempt to cover up her covetous need for fame and power. As if she truly cared for her husband’s career or well being. She was clearly livid that SH was in her way of getting fame and power.
Her punishment came when WS’s mum humiliated and insulted her when she kneeled down before her.
She will definitely throw a fit and break down when her husband announce in public his refusal to run for office.
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I have loved PBG for a long time. He stole my heart when he appeared with Seo In Guk in Hello Monster. Those eyes... He could really transformed into any character. In Reply 1988, he lived and breathed Taek. He stirred up my maternal instinct and I wanted to take care of him.
In this show, I was so taken by his acting here with SHG. He transformed into a younger man who is very stable and mature in his actions and thoughts. I wanted to date him. I am really impressed. PBG can have sizzling chemistry with anyone he is partnered with. I suspect even with a plant...
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I agree that having a controlling parent is not an excuse for WS’ behaviour. Many persons with similar environment do not behave the same. But I do feel sorry because in that environment, it takes more effort and strength to lead a different life.
SH has a mother who is a terrible role model but she doesn’t behave like her. SH is also blessed with a driver who helped her to have a different experience. Linked her up with friends her mother disapproved. Threw slumber party for her when mother was away. SH’s father seemed more grounded too. She definitely is closer to her father.
WS, on the other hand, does not seem to have a more positive role model in his life (at least not shown in the show). I do see a lot of similarities in his behaviour comparing it to his mother’s. They can be smiling at the person but behind the smiles, there are no friendly thoughts or actions. Both have high handed way of handling situations without considering other’s needs or preferences. I wonder whether to WS, growing up with a mother like his, he might have thought that environment, that kind of behaviour is normal.
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I can’t help but compare the 2 very different ways of expressing love; WS’s expression of love and JH’s.
Perhaps due to personality or the way they were brought up.
JH is very considerate and not seeking his own gain. He chose his actions and words carefully, taking into consideration how he can place SH’s needs before his own. Knowing that she grew up in an environment where she had no voice, could not choose and therefore no sense of security, he made every effort to support, help and protect SH. SH, in response, became more expressive and courageous in loving.
WS pales in comparison. He had no idea what SH needs. He did not protect SH from his mother’s controlling and malicious behaviour during their marriage. Even after their divorce, he did nothing to stop his mother from controlling SH. Perhaps, he was fearful of his mother’s wrath, but I argue that when JH came face to face with her malice, he wasn’t cowering with fear for himself but filled with sadness at how SH had been suffering. JH became more determined to protect her.
When WS found out about SH’s and JH’s relationship, instead of asking SH whether she is happy with JH and blessing them, he chose to tell SH he wanted her back. Again, her needs and wants are not important to him. He went as far as to intimidate JH. When WS found out about his mother’s ploy to bring SH down from being CEO of the hotel, he chose to become a co-CEO of hotel to protect her. Is that what she wants? Clearly not.
I do feel sorry for WS because I can’t imagine living with a mother so controlling and malicious. He is clearly unhappy and quite damaged. I do want him to find his own happiness so hopefully, writer will write him a growth spurt so that he can have a real relationship with someone else.
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I’m really happy Song Hye Kyo chose this project after her high profile wedding with Song Joong Ki. Most married A list actresses stopped taking on mainstream romantic roles after getting married. I wonder why? The last high profile romantic drama series with a married woman actress was “My love from the star”. It was a great job done by all parties.
I love it that the drama is getting all these comments and discussions about the leads’ chemistry together. Sometimes, we forget that these people are professional Actors and Actresses and judged them based on their private lives. Hye Kyo being married shouldn’t cause us to discount her acting skills. She can still deliver intense acttraction if the script calls for it. Bo Gum being Joong Ki’s good friend shouldn’t affect his ability to act too. I really appreciated Bo Gum’s and Hye Kyo’s acting. I could feel their intentional awkwardness during the first episode and how they could portray their relationship growing naturally.
May this project done by two very talented actor and actress helped to pave the way for more openness in married actresses taking on romantic roles.
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Thank you for posting beautiful pics of the fan-sign event and the wrap up party. The collective eye candies was a balm to my being. Great that this group can act too. So looking forward to their future projects.
I have been watching PBG since he acted as a psychopath in Seo In Guk's "I remember you". He freaked me out and stirred up my maternal instinct with that portrayal. That made me sit up and pay attention to him. His portrayal of CP was so good. I felt he made some of the more mature and experienced actors appeared lack luster. I may be the minority here but Premier Kim's acting was a wee bit too rigid and bland stacked together with PBG's portrayal of CP. Or maybe because, I hated his character with a vengeance...
Anyways, thank you so much, Moonlighters for chatting about this beautiful show. I have enjoyed the Show so much more because of all of you.
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42 minutes ago, MinLyn said:
He walks into YS' room and as he sits down, he recalls what has happened in the past as YS and LY have exchanged their head-gears with each other when they were young so when the face-reader says that the CP will only be able to live a short life, he is actually referring to YS then since YS has LY's headgear on. And the face reader has mentioned that LY has the face of a future King-to-be so that is the truth and the Premier knew this all long. So most probably he wants to change YS' fate by resorting to doing all that he has done to save his grandson's life so that he will be able to live a longer life. Like he wants LY to switch places with his grandson, YS.
Losing his grandson has been a deep pain to him so the Premier then takes out a pistol from the drawer and ends up pulling the trigger and killing himself.
WHAaatttt?!!! I'm supposed to accept that Premier Kim did all the evil deeds NOT because he was power hungry but because he wanted to fight YS's fate and prevent the foretelling of his death to come true?
Omo... How to make sense of this.... I'm having difficulty here. I have been seeing him as the epitome of power hunger, it is difficult to make the switch now...
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