[Mainland Chinese Drama 2017] Princess Agents 特工皇妃楚乔传

[cenching]

1 minute ago, tsubamee said:

 

One kiss scene in the book between YX and CQ got quite hot and heavy. Made my old skin blushing red 

 In the book they do love each other, YX was XE's first love so.......... 

[turtle0217]

1 hour ago, visiopeia said:

 

YWH killed by YX or CQ i don't mind.. as long as he is dead horrible is satisfy to me 

 

I hope he dies horribly and I don't care who kills him. YWH just die already.

 

Thank you @frostflower14 for sharing the new OST.

 

[Melda Hung]

36 minutes ago, maixa02 said:

This changes everything if this is what will happen in the drama. Idk, but if we go by that then Yan Xun is blameless (slightly?). The siblings went to Yan Bei knowing that they are hated there. It's not like Yan Xun ordered their demise right? He cannot control his subordinates' every action right? He even ordered them to specifically send them home safely. Yes, we all knew that the siblings were not safe with those soldiers but it's not like there are any Chang'an soldiers to escort them safely. But then Chu Qiao were able to escort them so that would be an option. If anything, blame the soldiers who did that to Chun Er.

Fellow watchers, I am back! I just woke up. 

Apparently based on Wikipedia, someone who looks like Chu Qiao killed Luo He. And from what I've gathered, Luo He should come from Liang. I think that's when Chu Qiao will lead the Wei army and we get that hugging scene during the battle where YWY was masked? (I'm soooo looking forward for that!!!!!!!!)

wow if she is from Liang then she must be enemy with princess Liang coz the guy with fan ever fight with her ... so curious ... thnks for the info ... yeah YWY will keep rescue her ... he is really the kindness warrior n guardian angel we love so much yay waiting for the scene 

[tsubamee]

11 hours ago, maixa02 said:

 

And I am so freaking mad how they used rape as a device plot to change Chun'er. WHY DOES IT HAVE TO BE THAT??? I was screaming internally and wanted to torture those who did that to her. Yes. Including Yan Xun if it will be proven that he ordered it. If he can't respect a woman, neither will he respect CQ and any other women he's allied with. 

I haven't read the entire book, but in the book Chun'er was gang raped. Not sure when or if it was the main reason why she turned  vengeful 

[40somethingahjumma]

I am sitting here reeling from tonight's preview of CE and YS's scenes... two young people who sometimes annoyed and irritated me with their naivete but of all the people in that royal court, they were at the end of the day, the least blameworthy. When I think of how CE was ready to rush out there to help YX at great risk to her own safety when she was barely held back only because her mother beat the maid to death... I can't believe she deserved any of this. 

I imagine that YX wants to send a message to the Big Man in the palace... I get that. He no longer has to pretend, unfettered he embarks on his warpath killing anyone who stands in his way. We can blame paranoid emperor in part for all this death and destruction and perhaps all the people who aided and abetted him as well. Sure for what happened to the Marquis and most of his family, that's definitely on him. But for what YX becomes during and after the coup, I think that's largely on YX.  He's no longer a prisoner under house arrest at His Majesty's pleasure so how he uses his newfound freedom... the buck stops with him.

So what about CQ... is she going to spend the rest of her life cleaning up after YX, picking up the pieces after the demolition? Is this what she really signed up for? To be the prince's clean up crew? Like the conscientious mother who's embarrassed and guilty that her child is leaving a mess everywhere he goes. He's out of control but she can't stop him. All she can do is get her out dustpan and her mop hastily to minimize the damage. Perhaps YWY's words will ring in her ears..."You will regret it." Because if she continues with YX on his present trajectory then she, by association, is as culpable through assent.  

I went out and watched the new Spider-man film today. There were definite parallels with CQ.

Spoiler

Both protagonists well-intentioned, both endowed with some ability, feel like they need to "help" but end up making things worse in some way, even while putting others in jeopardy.

The show is very hard on CQ. Obviously she has much to learn. Before she can become a great general, it seems that she must first gain wisdom and learn a few home truths.

[fluffychim1013]

Hey @mundane9, @lindasxx, @monchoo and anyone else who has read the novel,

Judging from your responses in the thread, it seems like you guys have read the novel (hopefully I'm not completely off, haha), so I wanted to get your opinion on how the drama is going.  What do you like/dislike about the drama adaptation? I've read most of the novel (skipped some parts about the Huai Song princess) and I wish the drama had stuck to the darker Yuwen Yue like the novel. What I liked about his character is that his love for Chu Qiao made him a better person and you see his gradual transformation in the novel. In the drama version, he's too good, which makes the character boring. How about you guys?

[maixa02]

11 hours ago, jolin_chan said:

@maixa02 YX did tell on ep 44 that he already investigated thoroughly of the massacre 3 years ago and he knew that YWY did protect him, and he also didn't deny when YWY said that he never once do an act that was betraying his brother (YX), so YX should know that YWY can be trusted, but he still want to took this revenge plan.

And I must add, I don't blame YX at first though, but after what happen to CE and YS? Nope. He HAS already become the very person that he want to take revenge upon. While the Mad King still living breathing safe and sound on his palace, his kids, his innocent kids, have to took all the blame for what happen. And watching the BTS vid that @pawla posted, I think the drama didn't air all Li Jin sentences into the drama? CE there said that she is willing to let YX go, eventhough is the place that is so far away that she can't even see him again. How come YX can still making that order to someone who said something like that to you?

In my defense, I was referring to what happened in the NOVEL. I REPEAT. IN THE NOVEL. I am not heartless. I was referring to an alternate story where Yan Xun didn't order the rape.

[cenching]

@40somethingahjumma, The traitor from YanBei described YX perfectly, there is no god that returns from hell only devil.

[Bambiina]

I am getting tired of CQ constantly being rude to YWY ... and I read in some bloq - It's likely PA will end at the ice lake scene (YWY died) ...

I don't want to waste my time watching something 'In complete' with sequel rumored and nothing confirmed ... and even if there's sequel most probably with different cast? .... (I knew this were discussed before, I brought up because of it seem the rumored ice lake scene - might be true) ... 

if it is true - I think my soul will be hanging somewhere .... 

Anyway - I am waiting the day - CQ would treat YWY like human being ... I wonder we would ever see it?

 

 

Edited July 12, 2017 by Bambiina
Delete irrelevant issue ..

[maixa02]

22 minutes ago, fluffychim1013 said:

Hey @mundane9, @lindasxx, @monchoo and anyone else who has read the novel,

Judging from your responses in the thread, it seems like you guys have read the novel (hopefully I'm not completely off, haha), so I wanted to get your opinion on how the drama is going.  What do you like/dislike about the drama adaptation? I've read most of the novel (skipped some parts about the Huai Song princess) and I wish the drama had stuck to the darker Yuwen Yue like the novel. What I liked about his character is that his love for Chu Qiao made him a better person and you see his gradual transformation in the novel. In the drama version, he's too good, which makes the character boring. How about you guys?

True. True. They made him likeable and the only one blameless in all of this mess.

3 minutes ago, Bambiina said:

I am getting tired of CQ constantly being rude to YWY ... and I read in some bloq - It's likely PA will end at the ice lake scene (YWY died) ...

I don't want to waste my time watching something 'In complete' with sequel rumored and nothing confirmed ... and even if there's sequel most probably with different cast? .... (I knew this were discussed before, I brought up because of it seem the rumored ice lake scene - might be true) ... 

if it is true - I think my soul will be hanging somewhere .... 

and also - I am amazed that 'outhere' the support for YX isssss massive and YWY was criticized a lot , It's like whatever he did was 'not good enough' ... 

Anyway - I am waiting the day - CQ would treat YWY like human being ... I wonder we would ever see it?

 

 

I don't see anyone criticizing YWY? Most of them are criticizing CQ. 

[cenching]

2 minutes ago, maixa02 said:

True. True. They made him likeable and the only one blameless in all of this mess.

I don't see anyone criticizing YWY? Most of them are criticizing CQ. 

 

The drama god made him pure perfect white flawless. We can say nothing bad about him....even YX admitted that YWY didn't do anything wrong to him.....

Too good too be true, that's why we like him 

[maixa02]

49 minutes ago, tsubamee said:

I haven't read the entire book, but in the book Chun'er was gang raped. Not sure when or if it was the main reason why she turned  vengeful 

Yeah. And I am speaking about the drama and novel writers. I am pretty sure that caused Chun'er to be vengeful because I will be too if that happened to me. To think that it was caused by someone I sincerely loved. 

4 minutes ago, cenching said:

 

The drama god made him pure perfect white flawless. We can say nothing bad about him....even YX admitted that YWY didn't do anything wrong to him.....

Too good too be true, that's why we like him 

How I wish they actually made him darker in the drama. That way, every action by YX and CQ will make perfect sense and logical.

[maixa02]

Chu Qiao, o, Chu Qiao. Will you be the one to clean Yan Xun's mess? 

[heoesdanish90]

1 hour ago, maixa02 said:

This changes everything if this is what will happen in the drama. Idk, but if we go by that then Yan Xun is blameless (slightly?). The siblings went to Yan Bei knowing that they are 

Apparently based on Wikipedia, someone who looks like Chu Qiao killed Luo He. And from what I've gathered, Luo He should come from Liang. I think that's when Chu Qiao will lead the Wei army and we get that hugging scene during the battle where YWY was masked? (I'm soooo looking forward for that!!!!!!!!)

Now it makes sense prince Xioa Ce told CQ that she was pretty like women of Liang. Mybe that a hint of her origin.

[Bambiina]

3 minutes ago, maixa02 said:

True. True. They made him likeable and the only one blameless in all of this mess.

I don't see anyone criticizing YWY? Most of them are criticizing CQ. 

 

Not here .. some blog if you want the link I shall pm you ..  (already pmed)

[maixa02]

5 minutes ago, Bambiina said:

 

Not here .. some blog if you want the link I shall pm you .. 

Lol. What the? If anyone who's actually blameless in this, that would be Yuwen Yue. The Yuwen Yue.

It's okay. You don't have to pm me. I pretty much know the gist of it.

[cenching]

40 minutes ago, maixa02 said:

Chu Qiao, o, Chu Qiao. Will you be the one to clean Yan Xun's mess? 

 

She will be The Head of YX's Cleaning Crews until the day YWY died in that icy lake. She realized that she indeed raises and nurtures a wolf and she is ashamed of that hence the cleanup.

Every YanBei's people will know how dark is YX but XE will find excuses. HeXiao(?) and XiuLi(?) Soldiers knew that but they won't tell her.

[maixa02]

1 minute ago, cenching said:

 

She will be The Head of YX's Cleaning Crews until the day YWY died in that icy lake. She realized that she indeed raises and nurtures a wolf and she is ashamed of that hence the cleanup.

Every YanBei's people will know how dark is YX but XE will find excuses. HeXiao(?) and XiuLi(?) Soldiers knew that but the won't tell her.

Please don't jinx it! I was hoping that that scene where YWY hugged CQ during the battle was when he made it alive from the Icy Lake (that's why he was masked).

[turtle0217]

1 minute ago, maixa02 said:

Please don't jinx it! I was hoping that that scene where YWY hugged CQ during the battle was when he made it alive from the Icy Lake (that's why he was masked).

 

I was thinking the same thing, too. That he was alive and he made it back and covering the truth that he's actually alive. I am watching everyday to see all those scenes. 

[Bambiina]

Just now, maixa02 said:

Lol. What the? If anyone who's actually blameless in this, that would be Yuwen Yue. The Yuwen Yue.

 

That the reason - I was amazed at the way human brain works .. hehehhe..  (Anyway I may exaggerate - the word 'massive' ... I should rephrase and put it as 'majority' comment in that blog) .. I am amazed because some people look at things differently .. and I always think that YWY has been doing everything he can to help them ... 

May be I read wrongly - may be I am overly sensitive ....   I think I shall amend my earlier post ...