[Drama 2024] The Two Sisters - 피도 눈물도 없이 - Mon to Fri 19:50 KST

[marrez1]

So because HJ didn't  kill JC, she is now a saintess?  With all the harm she do to HW and others people, HJ deserves to rotten in hell. I want FL to be a bad guy and start a perfect revenge against HJ.

At the ending the two sisters will die lol

[LeftCoastOppa]

32 minutes ago, maribella said:

HW has decided HJ is her enemy.
 

If it’s not JC’s death then it’s the lift accident, if not the lift, it’s the deliberate car crash … HJ has done many things to peg herself as HW’s enemy, bent on destroying her family and killing her unborn child. So the truth that JC died because he tried to kill her would not make any change to her treatment of HJ as her enemy. That is the whole picture. 

 

So Hye Won has decided Hye Ji is her enemy, and no longer her sister ... thats fine.

 

I merely pointed out that if she is going to condemn Hye Ji, do it for any/all the things she actually orchestrated not something Hye Won knows Ji Chang is responsible for.

 

 

32 minutes ago, maribella said:

The Chairman blames HJ for JC’s death, I doubt if it would matter to him that she was defending herself. She had made a fool of him. JC’s death is another item in his list, right or wrong.

 

Never said anything about the Chairman, but I don't doubt he wants to kill Hye Ji especially because he said it in todays episode. That said, him trying to rationalize her murder because of JC's death doesn't make it right.

 

 

16 minutes ago, marrez1 said:

So because HJ didn't  kill JC, she is now a saintess? 

 

I don't believe anyone ever said that

[maribella]

37 minutes ago, LeftCoastOppa said:

merely pointed out that if she is going to condemn Hye Ji, do it for any/all the things she actually orchestrated not something Hye Won knows Ji Chang is responsible for.

This is kdrama which depends on the writer and rating. So anything goes, but if the writer decides to follow HW’s character, then would she forget everything else if she knew that JC’s death was due to his failed attempt to kill HJ? I don’t think she would let it slide. She would see HJ jailed, pay for her crimes, and then accept her as her sister. 
But I am ready for anything. I had watched “Tale of two sisters”.  The baddie sister  was a criminal, but she was almost canonised at the end. It can happen here.

 

37 minutes ago, LeftCoastOppa said:

That said, him trying to rationalize her murder because of JC's death doesn't make it right.

Murder is never right but he sounds more like avenging himself, for being made into a fool.

[Lmangla]

1 hour ago, LeftCoastOppa said:

Hye Won knows JC tried to kill Hye Ji. Thats part of the reason she agreed to be a party to the cover up of his death as a suicide. She didn't want her son to know his father had tried to kill someone. 

..... and this shows how Hye Won is a hypocrite and her relentless obsession over art MIL's death was not a fight about justice like she claimed... who knows why she was obsessed... 

 

10 hours ago, LeftCoastOppa said:

Woah, apparently Hye-Ji actress - Ha Yeon Joo - was actually injured in one of the scenes where she was hit in the head

 

 

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so strange that the station is being tight lipped. something certainly went down! 

 

[LeftCoastOppa]

25 minutes ago, maribella said:

So anything goes, but if the writer decides to follow HW’s character, then would she forget everything else if she knew that JC’s death was due to his failed attempt to kill HJ?

 

Who is asking Hye Won to forget anything?

 

A-G-A-I-N  rail away at Hye Ji for the host of deceitful antics she's been apart of, disown her as a sister, find the recording and get her convicted and sent to prison.  However trying to go after Hye Ji for Ji Changs murder? Sorry, she knows its not true.

 

Maybe she keeps bringing it up because she's actually mad at herself for being a willing part of a cover-up ...

 

 

 

18 minutes ago, Lmangla said:

so strange that the station is being tight lipped. something certainly went down! 

 

Grandma & JC hit her with objects ... Grandma & JC characters are now dead ...

 

[liyahsbutterfly]

5 hours ago, Lmangla said:

her relentless obsession over art MIL's death was not a fight about justice like she claimed... who knows why she was obsessed... 

 

If it wasn't about justice, then what was it about?

[nohamahamoud2002]

 

The usual time fly, and different hair style lols

[Lmangla]

1 hour ago, liyahsbutterfly said:

 

If it wasn't about justice, then what was it about?

My guess is that she was hurt and full of rage over art MIL's death -- perhaps it was driven by grief though the drama didn't do a good job on selling me that these two women had such a deep relationship.

I think a person truly driven by justice are far more dogmatic because they apply the need for justice in all situations and not when it is convenient for them.

If she really believed in justice, then she would expose Ji Chang's crime but she hasn't. When others asked her to hold off because it would harm YJ and those who worked in the company, she acted like a self-righteous person. When her father asked her to let it go, she couldn't understand him but now she is hiding Ji Chang's action. So I don't buy her justice drive. Hye Won is just selfish -- everything is about her emotions and her needs. 

 

[liyahsbutterfly]

2 minutes ago, Lmangla said:

Hye Won is just selfish -- everything is about her emotions and her needs. 

 

I agree that Hye-Won is selfish. And she also does what benefits her best. Like I said, she's vindictive and aware of it. Which is why she's gonna go dark soon (or eventually, at least I think so.) Hye-Ji was horrible, but now she's being cruel towards her. Ji-Chang's death wasn't her fault. She knows it, yet she's obsessed with revenge. The writers aren't trying to convince us that she's good.

[Lmangla]

8 minutes ago, liyahsbutterfly said:

 

I agree that Hye-Won is selfish. And she also does what benefits her best. Like I said, she's vindictive and aware of it. Which is why she's gonna go dark soon (or eventually, at least I think so.) Hye-Ji was horrible, but now she's being cruel towards her. Ji-Chang's death wasn't her fault. She knows it, yet she's obsessed with revenge. The writers aren't trying to convince us that she's good.

I just wish they didn't make it like Hye Won was so brave for pursuing the art MIL's death when really it was just grief and rage. I didn't find her particularly brave -- more foolish and not thinking things through.

That said, with the change in writer, I think the drama has done away with the pretense that she is good and now, showing her more as a regular flawed human. 

[liyahsbutterfly]

33 minutes ago, Lmangla said:

That said, with the change in writer, I think the drama has done away with the pretense that she is good and now, showing her more as a regular flawed human. 

 

I'm glad the new writer's doing that. She seems to be morally grey now.

 

Spoiler

Cha Ji-Eun hit Ji-Chang with her car and killed him!

 

[maribella]

12 hours ago, LeftCoastOppa said:

However trying to go after Hye Ji for Ji Changs murder? Sorry, she knows its not true.

At present, what HW knows is that Ji Chang is dead when he met her sister who was bent on breaking up her family and killing her baby plus a host of other diabolical deeds. It would be natural to jump to that conclusion, even if it’s wrong. I might have missed it but she has not said anything that hints  or implies that HJ is innocent and she is just being vicious to blame HJ. Not a scene. So she’s going against HJ for the belief that HJ killed JC. Unlike us viewers, the writer is keeping her ignorant, perhaps until a grand revelation.

 

6 hours ago, Lmangla said:

6 hours ago, liyahsbutterfly said:

 

I agree that Hye-Won is selfish. And she also does what benefits her best. Like I said, she's vindictive and aware of it. Which is why she's gonna go dark soon (or eventually, at least I think so.) Hye-Ji was horrible, but now she's being cruel towards her. Ji-Chang's death wasn't her fault. She knows it, yet she's obsessed with revenge. The writers aren't trying to convince us that she's good.

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I just wish they didn't make it like Hye Won was so brave for pursuing the art MIL's death when really it was just grief and rage.

I didn’t get the impression that she was rational and cool about clearing MIL’s name and getting her justice. It was hinged on her attachment to MIL as the mother-she-never-had. The MIL was more mother-child with JC and her relationship with her DIL was great, but still with reservations. However,  It was heckava better  than 99% of other MIL-DIL relationships. Her feelings for MIL seemed stronger from her side which explained to me why the previous writer put her on an avenging path. The new writer has changed it to JC’s death. HW hasn’t changed much, just her hairstyle and coats with football player pads in the last episode. 
 

I don’t think anyone could avoid running into someone who falls in front of the car. He would have died from the fall if not instantly, even with the miracle IV.

 

 
 

 

[backstreetboysfan]

Here is the ratings for Episode 53! .

 

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2024-04-04

53

7.6 (3rd)

6.6 (3rd)

 

[LeftCoastOppa]

1 hour ago, maribella said:

At present, what HW knows is that Ji Chang is dead when he met her sister who was bent on breaking up her family and killing her baby plus a host of other diabolical deeds. It would be natural to jump to that conclusion, even if it’s wrong. I might have missed it but she has not said anything that hints  or implies that HJ is innocent and she is just being vicious to blame HJ. Not a scene. So she’s going against HJ for the belief that HJ killed JC. Unlike us viewers, the writer is keeping her ignorant, perhaps until a grand revelation.

 

( insert long exasperated sigh here )

 

In a word - wrong

 

Hye Won was the first to suspect JC had tried to kill Hye Ji in a conversation with Goofy ML after the autopsy report came out.  Following that, in Hye Ji's hospital room, she confirmed that she knew Chairman Romeo had lured Hye Ji to the resort to hand her over to Ji Chang, and that he died trying to kill Hye Ji.

 

Even in todays episode, she said again that Hye Ji was lured into a trap.

 

Yes, Hye Won knows Hye Ji pushed JC out the window, she also knows it was self defense. 

 

 

 

 

 

[maribella]

46 minutes ago, LeftCoastOppa said:

he died trying to kill Hye Ji.

 

Even in todays episode, she said again that Hye Ji was lured into a trap.

 

Yes, Hye Won knows Hye Ji pushed JC out the window, she also knows it was self defense. 

 

I did say I might have missed it. My FFW finger’s fault. 
How could HW guess that JC tried to kill her? She could have tried to kill him. We know he did but HW was guessing the correct scenario? 

 

51 minutes ago, LeftCoastOppa said:

Yes, Hye Won knows Hye Ji pushed JC out the window, she also knows it was self defense. 

How did she find out it was self defence? Just curious now because it makes HW a super sleuth. 

 

 

Only two people knew JC tried to kill her, JC & HJ.  Even the caller to the escort guy wasn’t in the room where they fought.

[liyahsbutterfly]

7 minutes ago, maribella said:

How did she find out it was self defence? Just curious now because it makes HW a super sleuth. 

 

Both YC and HW found out somehow. The writer never fully specified this part. 

[LeftCoastOppa]

57 minutes ago, maribella said:

I did say I might have missed it. My FFW finger’s fault. 
How could HW guess that JC tried to kill her? She could have tried to kill him. We know he did but HW was guessing the correct scenario? 

 

58 minutes ago, maribella said:

How did she find out it was self defence? Just curious now because it makes HW a super sleuth. 

 

 

49 minutes ago, liyahsbutterfly said:

Both YC and HW found out somehow. The writer never fully specified this part. 

 

Exactly - in the episode with JC's autopsy, Hye Won suggests JC may have been trying to kill Hye Ji. Then in the very next episode when Chairman Romeo tries to smother Hye Ji with a pillow, he and Hye Won argue, and Hye Won reveals she knows Chairman Romeo lured Hye Ji to the resort to give her to Ji Chang, and that he died as a result. Further, she states that she knows it was Grandmas black ops that are responsible for the truck that hit Hye Ji, which the Chairman doesn't deny.

 

Hye Ji was led into a trap. Since Hye Won knows and states as much with certainty, she also knows its clearly self defense that led to Ji Changs death.  Exactly how she knows the writers have yet to explain.

 

 

[maribella]

3 hours ago, LeftCoastOppa said:

she also knows its clearly self defense that led to Ji Changs death. 

I watched the part when Chairman Yoon sneaked into the hospital to kill HJ and there was some tussle between them. She said that HJ was lured there but I did not catch her saying that JC was killed by HJ to defend herself. Ok will watch again. 

[LeftCoastOppa]

23 minutes ago, maribella said:

I watched the part when Chairman Yoon sneaked into the hospital to kill HJ and there was some tussle between them. She said that HJ was lured there but I did not catch her saying that JC was killed by HJ to defend herself. Ok will watch again. 

 

Hye Won clearly acknowledges Hye Ji was lured there by Chairman Romeo for Ji Chang.  Hye Won also thinks Hye Ji killed Ji Chang while he was trying to kill her, and states so in the scene you said you watched

 

She said her self JC died trying to kill HJ, how is it anything but self defense?

 

 

[maribella]

55 minutes ago, LeftCoastOppa said:

 

Hye Won clearly acknowledges Hye Ji was lured there by Chairman Romeo for Ji Chang.  Hye Won also thinks Hye Ji killed Ji Chang while he was trying to kill her, and states so in the scene you said you watched

 

She said her self JC died trying to kill HJ, how is it anything but self defense?

 

 

I will watched again. Unless she says explicitly that JC was killed while attempting murder, she does not know what happened. Viewers watched him do it.