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2 minutes ago, perfectsmilebias said:

It means he isn't justified for physically assaulting her. He has no moral superiority to be giving out punishments. He has no justifiable reasons, he physically assaulted his wife because he wanted to hurt her. He wasn't doing to for a higher purpose, he was angry and wanted to physically abuse his wife.

OK. If someone tries to kill your child, you need to be morally superior to slap or give out punishment. She trying to kill his child is not justifiable reason for him to want to hurt her. I wonder what higher purpose would be for physically abusing your wife than she trying to kill your child.

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Wow,  that was a long back reading I had...  Hahaha 

Thanks chingus for all the recaps,  gifs, videos and screen shots. 

So YJ really got slapped because of Anna. And I've read somewhere that YJ is really in love to JH???  aish... 

I like @YourHighness.  theory on how JH will overcome his PTDS.... but I don't think he can or  will kill YJ. There friendship is somehow deep level. 

Can't wait for the sub with the scene when they were drinking.. that must be a funny one.  

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2 minutes ago, notohaterfans said:

Wow,  that was a long back reading I had...  Hahaha 

Thanks chingus for all the recaps,  gifs, videos and screen shots. 

So YJ really got slapped because of Anna. And I've read somewhere that YJ is really in love to JH???  aish... 

I like @YourHighness.  theory on how JH will overcome his PTDS.... but I don't think he can or  will kill YJ. There friendship is somehow deep level. 

Can't wait for the sub with the scene when they were drinking.. that must be a funny one.  

It's possible..maybe he won't but the fact that he will be willing to for Anna will be a blow to YJ and maybe that will be the final straw for her.

Also, I don't think the friendship between YJ and JH is deep..they understand each other but at least from JH's side, there's no affection. It takes more than just understanding to make a friendship deep.

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Did you notice the expression on JH face when AN reprimanded him on why he hurt his body when it is MINE!  That look of revelation that someone really care and love him despite everything that is going on.  And the rooftop scene was so tender and refreshing that both are healing and comforting each other, understanding and So I thought it is okay not to have kiss to spoil this emotionally charged scene.  Ahhhh @Bambiina I was still thinking of penguins with face masks when I watched the drunk bodyguards at the safe house. *bromance in today episode*

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24 minutes ago, nona88 said:

 

i think he meant to say to ANNA that YJ will not go and personally kill ANNA mother she just send someone if she did ( she never get blood in her hands it term for people who use other to do their dirty work for them )

JH know YJ so much and more then ANNA she can kill and she maybe killed ANNA mother but she didnt do that in her hands she just send people to do that for her 

@alleram95 thanks for the translate dear it really helping :heart:

 

hmmm that could be the case...

I am still wondering if YJ is the cause of the mother's death. SIGH.

How many eps left btw?

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15 minutes ago, liltash85 said:

From the preview its so obvious YJ make up the faint scene. She side eye JH before bring herself down. She wants to get his attention i supposed. damn you crazy woman.

 

bwahahhaa.. agreed with you.. she is slightly really crazy woman I've ever seen in k-drama land.. somehow we saw her pity but then BOOOOMMM.. she makes us hate her more..  iisshhh.. I really hate the plot that she want to separated my OTP..

I hate her the most then :angry:

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4 minutes ago, YourHighness . said:

OK. If someone tries to kill your child, you need to be morally superior to slap or give out punishment. She trying to kill his child is not justifiable reason for him to want to hurt her. I wonder what higher purpose would be for physically abusing your wife than she trying to kill your child.

 

I agree. and its just one slap so i think it is not really physical abuse. SJ did not kicked her, beat her or punch her continuously. And he has a valid reason. She is trying to kill his daughter. If he is putting a blind eye towards YJ act, he is such a despicable father. he is coward enough as a man for not letting the world know about his daughter and if he just let those things past, YJ will feel she can do anything to harm Anna. 

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Anna: ‘Are you sleeping?’

K2: ‘Not yet’

Anna: ‘Where are you?’

K2: ‘On the roof’

Anna: Whoa

K2: Ta-da

Anna: Did you clean it all by yourself?

K2: No, I asked maid ahjumma to clean it since you often to go here

Anna: Whoa

K2: Do you like it?

Anna: I like it very much. It’s very nice. Whoa…

K2: Hey, what are you doing now?

Anna: Take it off

K2: In here? Suddenly? Hey, what’s wrong with you?

Anna: Take it off

K2: Hey, you can’t!

Anna: Why? Come on, take it off

K2: I’m not ready yet ( :lol::lol: )

 

Anna: Ouch.. It must be hurt

K2: No, it’s alright. It just a scratch

Anna: Unbelievable. How can it only a scratch?

K2: Ugh, Anna…

Anna: You must go to the hospital tomorrow

K2: Ugh, okay okay. I’ll go to the clinic tomorrow

Anna: You are mine now. Do you think it’s okay to let it be/ to not get it treated?!

K2: Okay. I’ll go

Anna: Wait for a moment. It’s finished

K2: Really? Thanks, it’s not hurting at all

 

 

Anna: The night air is getting colder

K2: Yeah, but are you okay? Wait here

K2: Ough it’s cold. Ough it’s warm. It’s really warm. Eii I’m kidding

Anna: It’s cold

K2: How is it? It’s warm, right?

Anna: You know… Is there only one blanket?

K2: Nope (means there are lots of blanket available)

Anna: So why are you doing this? (sticking up closely to her)

K2: Huh? Well…

K2: Anna

Anna: Hm?

K2: Later.. Do you want to live together in Spain later? Why? Do you hate it?

Anna: That place.. it used to be a place that I want to escape from so much. But, we also met for the first time there. Let’s do it. I think I’ll be okay if I go there with you

Anna: When I think about it… I know nothing about you. What were you doing in Spain?

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8 minutes ago, YourHighness . said:

It's possible..maybe he won't but the fact that he will be willing to for Anna will be a blow to YJ and maybe that will be the final straw for her.

Also, I don't think the friendship between YJ and JH is deep..they understand each other but at least from JH's side, there's no affection. It takes more than just understanding to make a friendship deep.

You got the description of JH and YJ friendship better...  I agree..  JH is not the type to show affection to others... That's why he is a jerk to most of them and cringe when Seo hugged him lols. Anna is the only exemption. 

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16 minutes ago, YourHighness . said:

OK. If someone tries to kill your child, you need to be morally superior to slap or give out punishment. She trying to kill his child is not justifiable reason for him to want to hurt her. I wonder what higher purpose would be for physically abusing your wife than she trying to kill your child.

 

yupp 100% true.. even an animal can kill its mate cus want to kill its child.. its the nature instinct being a life.. 

cus we are not animal, its just an instinct to get angry, right? 

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1 hour ago, nona88 said:

 dont ever let me start this talk , seeing her like a teenager putting make up and smiling at her self in the mirror and try to look young and pretty then going out looking for JH like her he her lover was creepy , more creepy that she really looked at him like she looking at cheating boyfriends when he was smiling to ANNA , really !!!  i cant believe my self getting so angry at that even when i write here so many time about her view of love as owning someone and as controlling him , i even make post about her going to trying to have him so many times - i was ready , i though i was ready but seeing that scene still make me feel so creepy - that the kind of love she know , she dont show it and she want other to get that and gave  her love , but she doing with JH the same she did with SJ , if i cant have your love i will let you lose the person you love,i am going to let you left with nothing and just has to stay with me :rage:

@noona88  I told you this women is sick with jealousy, She thinks because she seen him first that he belongs to her never mind that she's a married women.. She has never question Jh values if he would be with a married women because he saw her husband cheating on her.. But just as I said Yj don't know of Jh and Annas encounter in Spain and once she finds out that Anna saw him first before she did is really going to explode that bomb because it's going to be history repeating it's self Anna mother having a thing with SjS because she was there first she would feel she always comes in second to the mother and daughter duo.. So no matter what in order to make herself feel good because she can't have JH and certainly wouldn't to see or know of them being together is kill them both and disperse each one of they ashy separately just the thought of them being close in a grave together would kill her and make her feel she lost again..

I can't really comment on how creepy the scene is of her putting on make up to go see JH but I can imagine, I haven't yet seen todays episode.. But I know it's like she going to see her lover that she's having a fling with..  This sista is so twisted she needs to spend serveral hours a day on a couch to separate her daddy and men issue stop relating those issues to others life of how she is to view people.. 

1 hour ago, perfectsmilebias said:

lol Jeha didn't even bleed that much? What was all the angst during last episode's ending? This writer has a problem with consistent tone.

And y'all thought this was going to be a serious episode... hehehe 

Also, to those celebrating SJ physically assaulting his wife, please, I beg of you, don't. A lot of you are saying she deserved it, and it just feels like your condoning physical abuse.

And the fact he told her to meet him in the house, just so he could slap her. Reading that made my heart sink. He pre-planned his physical assault. And people here still celebrated him???

If Anna slapped YooJin, then it would be different. Physical assault is still wrong, but Anna would be justified.

But SJ IS NOT justified. He has benefited greatly from YJ's violence and ruthlessness. He actively uses her to get people who could harm him politically killed.

And for those that say he did it for his daughter, he is still not justified. He's like saying "YooJin go kill that old couple, go kill that banner hanger, go kill my mistress who might leak something about me... WHAT!? you tried to kill Anna, how dare you! I'm going to hurt you now!" It is the pinnacle of HYPOCRISY!!!

Also, I have read some commentary here talking about how YooJin isn't a "normal" woman when she reacts to abandonment and abuse. But you guys surly know that all woman don't react the same to stressful circumstances like abandonment, betrayal, and abuse. There isn't a "normal" way to react to those things, ALL women arw different.

For example, some expect women to always cry and express their hurt obviously and emotionally. But some women, when hurt, will hide their emotions and gravitate towards anger. That doesn't make that woman any less "normal" nor does that make her "heartless". All people, including women, react to, experience, and live through pain in different ways. That diversity is what makes us humans and not programmed robots.

@perfectsmilebias  I have to agree with you here even though some women can push a man to that limit but I don't agree with him hitting her granted she is YJ but no man should hit a woman even if he can't outwit her.. Especially when he knows she's capable of killing his daughter and has allowed his daughter to be used as a pawn in there twisted marriage..  Yj is certainly a women scorned and do have issues of resentment, abandonment, anger, betrayal and she don't know how to deal with it and not confident in herself enough to seek help.. Because of whom she is and fear of being the hot topic of seeking professional help isn't helping her get over these issues so the next thing for her to do is react in these ways such as killing manipulation bribing blackmailing and this is just a few to release some of these issues but it's not a sure cure for her but it's like a tempoary quick fixes to all her many problems..

1 hour ago, YourHighness . said:

Also by killing Anna, she not only punishes SJ but also JH for the betrayal YJ feels he did by falling for her stepdaughter.

@YourHighness .  Sorry to cut your post.. Yj has to kill Anna just as I said she feels she lost to the mother and daughter combo and they are the cause of the men betrayal to her.. This is indeed the other sickness in her.. I keep on thinking would she kill SjS when he can no longer be president and she'll no longer be first lady.. What happens after that just what will she do afterwards because her pleasures are no longer her desires they have been fulfilled..I keep thinking on this.. Will she kill anyone one who wants to take over that position.. YJ is the type she hates being a loser and can't tolerate losers they and that don't fit in her vocabulary.. Is that company is her long term goal.. Just what is her ending to satisfy the need in her..

1 hour ago, perfectsmilebias said:

I could be dead wrong, but I don't think YooJin's plan has anything to do with Anna. When she was looking at Jeha from the car, all her focus was on Jeha. The camera angle was shot so that we didn't see Anna's face, in essence she was faceless. At that moment Anna could have been anyone to YooJin, it didn't seem like she noticed her or the rest of the bodyguards at all, they didn't register in her mind. He entire focus was on Jeha, on his happiness. She seemed sad that she wasn't a part of his happiness. 


Remember, she gets all dressed up and goes to where Jeha is right after her husband physically assaults her. She probably didn't know what she wanted when she did it, emotional comfort, happiness, sexual gratification... YooJin probably didn't know, she did that in direct reaction to her physical assault. 


She probably felt dirty or weak, and she wanted strength, something to hold onto when her life seems to be falling apart.


But then she sees Jeha in his own world of happiness, a world she knows she can't be a part of. That is why I read her expression more as sadness and embarrassment rather than jealousy.

Now I didn't take this in consideration and you make a valid point on how you read this scene.. Yj do see Jh as her emotional support and comfort to her because he has showed this side of him to her when he escorted her out that rainig building after rescuing her from her bullies.. But I do think the plan has to do with getting Anna away from him because she wants that security back when she feels backup against the wall..

             

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17 minutes ago, liltash85 said:

 

I agree. and its just one slap so i think it is not really physical abuse. SJ did not kicked her, beat her or punch her continuously. And he has a valid reason. She is trying to kill his daughter. If he is putting a blind eye towards YJ act, he is such a despicable father. he is coward enough as a man for not letting the world know about his daughter and if he just let those things past, YJ will feel she can do anything to harm Anna. 

Exactly. What kind of father would let someone go for trying to murder your child? Even a bad one would hit out and here the show has already showed us that Sj does care for Anna even if he's a terrible father. Honestly I am surprised anyone would have a problem with him slapping YJ when she well deserves it. She tried to kill his DAUGHTER. If someone even dares to kill or try to kill my family member, I would kill them. If not kill then definitely something more than just a slap. It wouldn't matter if I am morally lower or higher than that person.

14 minutes ago, notohaterfans said:

You got the description of JH and YJ friendship better...  I agree..  JH is not the type to show affection to others... That's why he is a jerk to most of them and cringe when Seo hugged him lols. Anna is the only exemption. 

 

LOL and he kinda of likes Seo and likes/is neutral about the other guys. But with YJ, I am pretty sure he dislikes(maybe hates) her especially after he saw how she constantly tries to harm Anna, physically and mentally. Just because he understands her, it does not mean he likes YJ.

 

9 minutes ago, eva23 said:

 

yupp 100% true.. even an animal can kill its mate cus want to kill its child.. its the nature instinct being a life.. 

cus we are not animal, its just an instinct to get angry, right? 


Exactly! Just because SJ is a terrible father, it doesnot mean he cannot slap the person who tried to kill his child. How can anyone expect that from a parent?!

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14 minutes ago, valsava said:

 

@YourHighness .  Sorry to cut your post.. Yj has to kill Anna just as I said she feels she lost to the mother and daughter combo and they are the cause of the men betrayal to her.. This is indeed the other sickness in her.. I keep on thinking would she kill SjS when he can no longer be president and she'll no longer be first lady.. What happens after that just what will she do afterwards because her pleasures are no longer her desires they have been fulfilled..I keep thinking on this.. Will she kill anyone one who wants to take over that position.. YJ is the type she hates being a loser and can't tolerate losers they and that don't fit in her vocabulary.. Is that company is her long term goal.. Just what is her ending to satisfy the need in her..

 

             

 

That's alright :) and you are right. Anna is a symbol of failure to her. First for her husband and now for JH. So it's but obvious that she will feel justified in killing and removing her from the equation to feel like she won.

I wonder though, is SJ really that important to her? Can a woman not run for presidency in SK? Can't she just kill him and run for presidency herself by claiming to want to carry on his legacy?

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okay the text preview of ep 12 is out - sorry i couldn't post it i have problem of copying any things from the k2 official site but i will post the link for it

okay know from what i understand so far this the preview saying :

  • YJ has new plan to take care and destroy PARK by using the cloud nine to uncover more secret and dirty past of PARK ( that mean for me maybe using JH and his death lover on that ) 
  • ANNA get to know more about her mother death and trying to make everyone know that her mother unfair die
  • ANNA getting so much care and support from people and start to make public interesting in her and her mother story 
  • i think she finally going to report to police about her mother and YJ part of that ( okay i didnt understand that part so well )
  • another part i didnt get so well i think about using ANNA as weapon against YJ ( i think it talking about the uncle )

 

 

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27 minutes ago, nona88 said:

the new OST  i like it already from the scene when ANNA hug JH when he tell her about his past 

 

 

I like this OST so much!  I waited for him all day not in vain.

Thanks to all recapers and screencaper. And big thanks @jeonghyang for gif.

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Hey guys!!!! I just found a fanmade video of our lovely "blanket couple" on Youtube! Check it out: 

 

It was so cute and amazing! The editor is really skilled, so hopefully she will make us more videos! Yes, please hahaha.

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waaa, im kinda laaate! i was planning on watching it live but there's something i need to take care of :cold_sweat: haven't seen this episode yet but the preview, thanks to all the live recappers, the screen cappers, all the gifs, translations, etc for today, tho i might not be able to watch episode 11-12 until Tuesday *sigh* 

2 hours ago, valsava said:

Ok about Yj plan not working for serveral different reasons but I think she could also have Anna to hide from Jh by telling her if she wants him to live she better not let JH find her maybe she will give Anna a ultimatum choose between Jh and her father but one thing for sure she will try and make it seems as if Jh abandon Anna..

I could here her you killed your mom your dad and Jh both abandon you I told you you can't trust men.. This YJ is a piece of work she got to use Jh to appeal and manipulate to Annas weakness..

 

my thought exactly!!! now AN is CYJ's powerful sword to destroy both men JSJ and JH, clearly CYJ has a plan for JH, i'm.not sure if she has a plan for JSJ too?

Oh wait, there's still a so-called uncle CSW, wonder what is he up to. will he going to save AN and help her to revenge? or he's going to use AN for his' sake? 

because the cuddling-on-the-roof scene itself is more romantic than a kiss, i'm not really disappointed in the absence of a kiss tonight. but really, this show has to be prolonged 2-4 episode more, ughhh there are so many things that haven't been revealed yet, unless if they are planning for an open ending? *nooo*

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I just watched it raw so ...Devils advocate is back... since I am more or less the only person on YJ team...let me translate her scenes

YJ and Kim secretary

Don't touch JH! If you touch/hurt him I just maid kill you first.

Madam, all the things KJH can do - I can do them to.

In that case,  you can understand to... the things you want to do for me...I want to do them for - that child (JH)... so don't make me kill you. Do not do the work that JH "can do", you should do the work - YOU are good at.

 

For me this was in referral to her "off with their had" personality. She was madams killing machine for years, so madam would not get blood on her hands, the thing she did not want her madam to do, to never get this "dirty" - she did them all...and what Madam is now saying is: just like you want to protect me, I want to protect that child (JH) Just like you want me to be happy, I want that child to be happy...

 

 

SJ and YJ

...Do not touch Anna; if anything happens to Anna, our contract is over. If I cannot become president you are NOTHING!

...all right...I understand... I will leave Anna alone ...so this means... you do not like to be the president after all? Ha?

...you really become childish...was that meant to be a threat now?

...if we are talking about "making a deal"...even if not JB there are couple other places to... I would not have to worry all the time just to ...survive ...by myself..

... ha ha... don't make me laugh...you could never do something like that... you  yourself know that your greed would never let you settle for something like that

...is that so? That could be true...in that case...should I change sides? ...this time should I make a deal with ...Park assembly?... just like my contract with you? In the end there is no difference... between you, him and me...we are all the same kind of people... if I tell him I will give him your head and make him the president in exchange for JB group...would Park reject my offer?

... You think I am kidding? Have you forgotten who I am? You really did forget!

You to...are nothing without me by your side... so do not fa** with me... Anna still didnt die a miserable death... for now ...if you do not want  to continue this...tell me ...any time...

...what is this? This I-was-wronged face you are making? The person that was hurt - was it not me? The person that used me from the start for his petty political greed was you... even do I never received any love from you I stayed by you for so long...

...should I make embarrassing confession? You did make my heart flutter... even until just recently...you know that to... why?  You used it from time to time... to use me better. But what should we do now? Now I no longer have any feelings for you left...  Here...want to take a shot? You are good at it... because you are player after all...ha  ha hha hha... yes... I admit... you were handsome, warm, smart  and comforting...I believed that to... but that was not it... you were even then - just as dirty and disgusting as you are today

...that's why I could have killed you back then when you betrayed me so dirty, for using my jealousy...

... You are doing so well now, if you no longer need Song dong daughter... I will return you ...back...

Ps

My Korean is limited at best but this is not medical or law drama so...I felt like giving my two cents bc I doubt anyone will bother with YJ lines any time soon, so... :phew:

 

 

 

 

 

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