Popular Post melleri Posted February 1, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted February 1, 2016 Here are some kisses for everyone Spoiler I want more... 31 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soujie Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 Been silently reading all your analyses again and everything's really interesting, especially on how the production team had laid out easter eggs throughout the entire drama. Great job, all! By the way, since you guys have been discussing the T.C = Tom Cruise = C.T = Choi Taek theory, there's something I'd like to ask. Tom Cruise was famous before heavily because of Top Gun, correct? And if I remember accurately, while the Ssangmun-dong gang were hanging out in Taek's room together, Deoksun did mention that she hasn't watched that movie yet (including Sunwoo and Taek, excluding Junghwan and Dongryong) hence suggesting they watch it all together so it's quite shady on how T.C would be Tom Cruise? Correct me with this but heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeh im getting giddy again even when Taek's the end game already, what is wrong with me?! 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pixiemoondust Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 Hyeri on her first kiss scene (part 1) "It was the first kiss scene ever for both of us. Seeing how composed Oppa was, I was just too shy. I had gotten so close with Bo Gum Oppa so I was even more of an embarrassing mess," Hye Ri said, laughing out loud. Translation // Kiss 24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shyyraa Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 Hey guys. Do you know that each character in R88 have their own wiki page with their details? Just gonna share with you Taek's and Deoksun's. Its fully in korean though. But still nice to look at. Lol https://namu.wiki/w/최택 (Deoksun being listed as his wife here. Hahaha) https://namu.wiki/w/성덕선 (and ofcourse Taek is listed as her husband here. Lol) 20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PiggyKid Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 @pixiemoondust no matter how many time i watched that scene, his eyes always make my breath stuck in my throat 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post pixiemoondust Posted February 1, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted February 1, 2016 Hyeri on her first kiss scene (part 2) "When we incidentally filmed it just right, I came to understand that 'Ahh, actors think about these things when they're filmed'. It wasn't any different than other acting [we've done]. When I tried thinking about how I should do things during filming and whether I would be trembling like a teen, it felt like we acted it out just like that. Bo Gum Oppa took the lead with me a lot," she explained. Translation // Kiss 25 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mangachickava Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 I think for the pager, people should rewatch the restaurant scene with TK and DS. DS needs to go to washroom, TK glances at her, DR tells her to go. She does. Then we see TK had been observing her enough to know to follow her. Then he arrives to tell her he had to go for a "smoke" to not hurt her pride. Same thing with concert. He observes her outfit, has met the boyfriend before ( like how he met the flasher), DR tells her to go. TK follows soon after, Then he arrives, he just places his jacket and doesn't hurt DS pride by going along with her lie. 22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rynn_peace Posted February 1, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted February 1, 2016 As request from @mangachickava here is the translation of DeokSun's diary cr: Reply 1988 DC Gallery 1988.09.21 I hope I grow into a cool woman in this society. It will be good if I have a lot of courage, cool headed, and calmness. (True?) love too. 1988.09.22 Who am I? Do I want to be a sky? The light crushes the darkness and brightens everything. The light even brightens the darkness. The darkness covers the light and makes everything become dark. It’s ridiculous act and impossible to get rid the light with light. The light breaks the darkness and only the darkness that can break the light. 1988.09.23 Today I have a bad mood. It becomes a day when I hate myself. Why can’t I endure just a little bit longer? I’m still feeling regret. While I’m resolving this day I should know the way to be patient and endure the pain. Why when I’m aware of my pain, I can’t feel other people’s pain. I think seriously that I have to become a person who persevere and endure even if the untoward events start to happen. 1988.09.24 The time when everything covered with black clothes. There are a lot of lonely times. My heart that lean toward you seems can’t rest. It's said that it’s expression of love. So, today I gathered up my courage and gave you a chocolate. 1988.12.08 I ate pizza at Taek’s room. We talked about the first snowfall. Seon Woo said he likes someone but can’t confess to her. So I said to him to confess when the first snow come. I’m really trembling. It seems finally the moment of confession will come soon. I’m in agony if I have to ask Seon Woo and make confession. I can’t sleep well. Seon Woo too feels the same with me, doesn’t he. 1988.12.09 First snow came. The worst day in my life. They said if we confess on the day when the first snow come the chance of success is 90%. For my confession to Seon Woo, I wrote the postcard to “Starry Night”. How long I wait for this day. In the end, all my love flew away one by one like first snow in the sky. Did Seon Woo really know my heart? No. Erase it. It’s maybe a lingering feeling... (It’s not seen ㅜㅜ) My confession is 10%’s failure… (It’s not spring ㅠㅠ) Where is the person who loves me? Will that person like that exist? Tonight is lonely winter night. 1988.12.11 Christmas is drawing near. I make a plan to go to McDonald Apgujeong with ManOk and JoHyeon. We don’t have boyfriend so we’ll hang out just the three of us. Other people will go with their couple right? But we have to play happily and not to be discouraged. When will I have a boyfriend? 30 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pixiemoondust Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 @PiggyKid Beautifully executed kiss I agree ♥ They both worked hard to give us audiences butterflies in our stomach 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AuroraSky Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 2 hours ago, rynn_peace said: 1988.12.09 First snow came. The worst day in my life. They said if we confess on the day when the first snow come the chance of success is 90%. For my confession to Seon Woo, I wrote the postcard to “Starry Night”. How long I wait for this day. In the end, all my love flew away one by one like first snow in the sky. Did Seon Woo really know my heart? No. Erase it. It’s maybe a lingering feeling... (It’s not seen ㅜㅜ) My confession is 10%’s failure… (It’s not spring ㅠㅠ) Where is the person who loves me? Will that person like that exist? Tonight is lonely winter night. Thanks for these. I think the date for this entry is actually 12/7/1988. Also, below is what I've been able to decipher that wasn't' included in the above. I think it's hilarious - check out her math, LOL. _________________________ December 7, 1988. First snow has fallen. The worst day of my life. They say if you confess on the first snow day, the chances of success are 90%. I've waited for this day so long, even sending a postcard to Starry Night [radio program] in order to confess to Sun Woo But alas, my first love has fluttered away like the first snowflakes in the sky Does Sun Woo even know of my true feelings for him? No, no. That is just lingering attachment [on my part]. The confession that I believed had 90 90 = 170 no, no 180% chances of succeeding [it becomes blurry here, but something about "instead has turned out to fit into the 10% failure rate"]. Is there no one out there who loves me? Is there even somebody like that out there? Tonight is another lonely night. _________________________ What is lost in the context of the translation here is how literary and poetic Duk Seon's diary entries are. The language is simple but very flowery and evocative, almost like a haiku poem. This says a lot about our little Duk Seon who appears kind of goofy and clumsy but is a poet at heart. 19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rynn_peace Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 5 minutes ago, fangurling123 said: Thanks, for these. I think the date for this entry is actually 12/7/1988. Also, below is what I've been able to decipher that wasn't' included in the above. I think it's hilarious - check out her math, LOL. _________________________ December 7, 1988. First snow has fallen. The worst day of my life. They say if you confess on the first snow day, the chances of success are 90%. I've waited for this day so long, even sending a postcard to Starry Night [radio program] in order to confess to Sun Woo But alas, my first love has fluttered away like the first snowflakes in the sky Does Sun Woo even know of my true feelings for him? No, no. That is just lingering attachment [on my part]. The confession that I thought had 90 90 = 170 no, no 180% chances of succeeding [it becomes blurry here, but something about "instead has turned out to fit into the 10% failure rate"]. Is there no one out there who loves me? Is there even somebody like that out there? Tonight is another lonely night. _________________________ What is lost in the context of the translation here is how literary and poetic Duk Seon's diary entries are. The language is simple but very flowery and evocative, almost like a haiku poem. This says a lot about our little Duk Seon who appears kind of goofy and clumsy but is a poet at heart. Thanks for correction!! I never thought DeokSun can write something poetic like that before. And her diary shows a bit of her personality. And I wonder why she talked about light and darkness on September 22nd 1988. Is there anything happened that day? 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 13infamyss Posted February 1, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted February 1, 2016 5 hours ago, melissala said: I want more... Let's spoil ourselves today, shall we? WARNING HEAVY IMAGES. Everyone, please be careful of your browser. Open one spoiler tag at a time. The YinYang Kiss. I seriously jawdropped when I first saw this. No doubt, the best KDrama Kiss scene I have seen. (I honestly forgot all those kiss scenes that TVN gave me a few dramas ago ) The cinematography was just beautiful. Every time I watch this scene, I am reminded that they were best friends who one day saw each other as "man and woman". That was the only thing missing in their relationship, and they had finally acted on it Spoiler Yeah?! Spoiler I honestly loved how he just went in for the kiss. It reminded me of that scene when he just went for that big hug when she didn't give him one! Spoiler Master Choi's such an expert. Spoiler Moaaaar. Spoiler Yep. Yep. Yep. Spoiler Sigh. No words. Spoiler I just loved this part when they paused for a sec, stared at each other, and shared a small smile. Taek barely cracked a smile. You can definitely see where Taek's eyes had been on that entire moment. She's sooooo loved. Like, I can't~~ Spoiler Okaaaay moarrrrr. Spoiler Yep. Nope. They can't get enough of each other. Anyone else gets distracted by Master Choi's hand when he reaches for her neck? Everytime? Spoiler BE STILL, MY HEART. ETA: AUUUGH. I was soo immersed in posting those gifs that I forgot to add this: Spoiler SunTaek doing another interview (press conference this time)! LOLOLOL. The description on the picture: "Yeobo, nice to see you~^^" 33 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsabelinaD Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 Omo @13infamyss You rock!!!! Kanshamida!!! A gift for you.... (look at her arm) ♥♥ cto 22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phuong Tam Nguyen Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 @moonkeeper OMG Moon thanks so much for bringing this up The title of Ep 17 : The Irony of Life - Part 2 What are those boxes? Our genius @moonkeeper had a wild guess: "I think they are match boxes..." and Moon you are CORRECT!!! http://alice0816.tistory.com/m/post/entry/추억의소품-아리랑-성냥 http://blog.daum.net/_blog/BlogTypeView.do?blogid=0NuBr&articleno=24&categoryId=7®dt=20090408143105 These are match boxes in the old times MORE!!! Spoiler Cre: http://gimoa.kr/front/php/product.php?product_no=18960&main_cate_no=321&display_group=1 BUT THAT'S NOT THE END OF THE STORY. The name of these match box is "아리랑 쓰리랑 아리아", which is "ARIRANG SEUNGRIRANG ARIA" When I first saw the word "Arirang", I thought of this okay? HAHAHA. My uncle has it and on every Chinese New Year, it will be on full use =)) Spoiler ARIRANG KARAOKE SYSTEM hahaha Cre: owners Jokes aside, Arirang is a traditional Korean folk song. "ARIRANG SEUNGRIRANG ARIA" is in the lyric of the song. --- From Wiki: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arirang "The heroine of the story from which the Arirang Song originated was a fair maid of Miryang. In fact, she was a modest woman killed by an unrequited lover. But as time went on, the tragic story changed to that of an unrequited lady-love who complained of her unfeeling lover. The tune is sweet and appealing. The story is recounted in "Miss Arirang" in Folk Tales of Old Korea (Korean Cultural Series, Vol. VI)." ---> So the irony here points to DS and her love for TK. DS thought it was a one-sided love and hid her feelings for 6 years, that's part 2 of the irony. In ep 16, we saw part 1 of the irony which pointed to TK and his hidden love for DS. --- From https://kuiwon.wordpress.com/2015/05/24/what-does-arirang-mean-the-theories-on-the-etymology-of-arirang/ 3. 我離娘(아리랑) or 我離郞(아리랑) – A-ri-rang (“I Part from My Dear”) "This theory proposes that the song dates to 19th century Chosun during the reign of Regent Heungseon (興宣大院君, 흥선대원군, 1829-1898, r. 1863-1873). The Regent is widely remembered as a tyrant who increased burdens on peasants by imposing compulsory labor, forcing families to leave their villages and live apart from one another. As these peasants parted from their families and villages, they expressed their angst in song, crying “A-ri-rang” a phrase coined from Classical Chinese (漢文, 한문). Here, “a” (我, 아) means “I”, “ri” (離, 리) means “to part from”, and “rang” (娘 or 郞, 랑) means either “dear wife” or “dear husband.” Together, Arirang would mean “I part from my dear wife” or “I part from my dear husband.” (Surprisingly, even though this would make “Arirang” a Sino-Korean word, it is the theory most favored among North Korean historians.)" --- ---> True enough, ep 17 was full of break-ups and partings. MO broke up with JB, BR broke up with SW, DS and TK hid their feelings towards each other. The irony was that THEY WISHED TO PART FROM THEIR LOVES (*white lies detected*) , of course painfully. Below are the song and the lyric translation Spoiler Miryang Arirang From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arirang Look on me! Look on me! Look on me! In midwinter, when you see a flower, please think of me! Ari-arirang! Ssuri-Ssurirang! Arariga nanne! <--- on the match boxes O'er Arirang Pass I long to cross today. Moonkyung weak Bird has too many curves Winding up, winding down, in tears I go. Carry me, carry me, carry me and go! When flowers bloom in Hanyang, carry me and go. Say "Hi" to Binggeure!!! The song is from the beginning to 3:50 mark Bonus: Actually this song has a political context. http://seoulbeats.com/2013/09/arirang-korean-nationalism/ "Yet even during this occupation period, “Arirang” was far more than simply an expression of Korean National identity. The song actually became a major pop music hit among audiences in mainland Japan during 1931, eight years before the onset of World War II. To the Japanese, “Arirang” both a statement of pan-East Asian identity and a reminder of a more simplistic past. During this time period, many Japanese associated Korean culture with a sense of melancholy or despondency, thus it was not difficult for them to connect “Arirang” with a sense of sadness and nostalgia for simpler times. Though the reasons for this cultural appropriation are highly complex, it is partially due to an appreciation for a musical aesthetic that transcends cultural boundaries. A similar trend can be seen today in North Korea with their choice to use Arirang as the name for the new smartphone. Evidently, “Arirang” is considered symbolic of Korean identity and is therefore a powerful symbol in both North and South Korea, despite the political tensions between those two countries." 21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rembrandtz_5e20 Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 PBG's schedule (according to TK thread in Baidu): 2 Feb Return to Korea 3 Feb Film CF 4 Feb Media interviews!!!! 5 Feb Music Bank MC 21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melleri Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 Oh awesome. I can't wait for interviews. Everyone else has talked pretty much except for him. I'm so interested in what he has to say. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sara2908 Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 the star always show up last. hoping for tons of videos and new pics 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 13infamyss Posted February 2, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted February 2, 2016 I`m gonna mention this now in case I forget to comment on it by the time we get to rewatch Ep 19. Not sure if anyone shared this thought yet, anyways, I always laugh when ever I watch this scene, to the point that I have overlooked once again a very thoughtful gesture here by Taek! This couple right here has never really changed over time. Duk Seon lies and Taek lets her get away with it everytime. Everytime. He knew he was right, but he didn't fight over that fact with Duk Seon. He made a fool of himself in front of the interviewer by taking his answer back and instantly agreed with her that their first kiss did happen in 1994. It was as if it was natural thing for him now to do that - that Duk Seon is always right and he always gets the facts wrong It's sooooo adorable that they have carried this habit till today. Somethings have never changed. ^I can actually picture Young Taek having this "I'm in trouble again" look on his face When you first watch this, you'd think: Uh-oh he's in trouble. How could he mess up the year of their first kiss?! (I thought it was because he didn't know all this time) But little did we know, Taek was actually right, and that he just let her get away with it again! 32 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pixiemoondust Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 Here's the latest I got from twitter from our quartet filming YOF: : 17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kepogee Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 12 hours ago, __jesse said: Re: The Chocolate Theory – Part 2 (Click here for part 1) So when BR threw a fit and made DS run all the way back from school to return the jacket, what it really meant was: DS, you better return SW to BR. Also, DS was coloring a heart with a long pencil lead, when we hear BR’s voice and the pencil lead broke. This storytelling technique is known as non-simultaneous sound, where diegetic sound comes earlier or later than the images it accompanies. We heard BR’s voice first before we saw her face. This technique was applied here to help us draw a connection between these two scenes. DS: Shush. My first love depends on this. BR: I’m going to a club trip today. (DS’ pencil lead breaks) DS’ coloring conquest was interrupted by BR’s voice. This foreshadowed DS’ first love being ruined by BR. The pencil lead broke; her first love was doomed to fail. Thanks for this @__jesse you made a very good argument about this! But I was just wondering why would DS give SW chocolate twice? One in ep2 and the other one in ep4 where she left it in the studyroom. 8 hours ago, rynn_peace said: 1988.12.08 I ate pizza at Taek’s room. We talked about the first snowfall. Seon Woo said he likes someone but can’t confess to her. So I said to him to confess when the first snow come. I’m really trembling. It seems finally the moment of confession will come soon. I’m in agony if I have to ask Seon Woo and make confession. I can’t sleep well. Seon Woo too feels the same with me, doesn’t he. 7 hours ago, fangurling123 said: What is lost in the context of the translation here is how literary and poetic Duk Seon's diary entries are. The language is simple but very flowery and evocative, almost like a haiku poem. This says a lot about our little Duk Seon who appears kind of goofy and clumsy but is a poet at heart. Thanks for the translation @rynn_peace @fangurling123 @fangurling123 since I know youre really versed with korean, i was just wondering if the translation of taek's convo with Sunwoo is correct. In ep14, when taek and sunwoo were about to sleep, SW asked him why he likes DS and he said "... When she smiles, I feel like i could die" Was there lost in translation or that was correct? 1 hour ago, rembrandtz_5e20 said: PBG's schedule (according to TK thread in Baidu): 2 Feb Return to Korea 3 Feb Film CF 4 Feb Media interviews!!!! 5 Feb Music Bank MC Thanks for the update! I wonder what CF he will film~ 41 minutes ago, 13infamyss said: I`m gonna mention this now in case I forget to comment on it by the time we get to Ep 19 rewatch. Not sure if anyone shared this thought yet, anyways, I always laugh when ever I watch this scene, to the point that I have overlooked once again a very thoughtful gesture here by Taek! ^I can actually picture Young Taek having this "I'm in trouble again" look on his face When you first watch this, you'd think: Uh-oh he's in trouble. How could he mess up the year of their first kiss?! (I thought it was because he didn't know all this time) But little did we know, Taek was actually right, and that he just let her get away with it again! CRYINGGG BEAUTIFUL OTP IS BEATIFUL. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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