Speech Level Singing

[Guest Crispy]

Not to offend anyone here, but

I don't really put too much credit in SLS.

It claims to increase your range, which it does... as do many other methodologies of vocal training.

It's mainly because of the warm-ups and exercises that it contains. Several of these warm-ups are shared amongst other methods, too.

The main tenet of SLS (besides "relaxation") is to sing like you speak.

I don't really agree with this because there are definitely times that you want your vocals to be more emotive and versatile.

Brian McKnight is a famous example of a singer who left the SLS approach because it didn't let him sing the way he wanted to.

In many ways, it's very restricting and limiting.

I'm not saying that SLS is all bad or anything, but that you shouldn't blindly put faith in it to solve all your troubles.

If you're struggling with range, it'd be smart to take note of the exercises, but maybe not the philosophy.

(I used to have a measly 2 octave range, but hit 4 octave last week -- 3 in chest/mixed, the rest in head/falsetto)

Just a warning, is all. ^^

[Guest J0N]

alrighty so anybody know how to use this?

what's your schedule like?

For example: one CD per month practicing 4 times a week and about 30 mins per day?

that's basically what I'm trying to do, but it's hard to practice all the time, so I'm trying to constantly follow the schedule.

I need somebody to practice with to help me and keep me motivated :]

sup kevin,

They suggested that you stay on a CD until you feel comfortable moving on, but if there is a exercise that you can't get through then just skip it and come back to it later. Most of the exercises on the first couple CD is basics and pretty straight forward.

[Guest MistahKK]

Not to offend anyone here, but

I don't really put too much credit in SLS.

It claims to increase your range, which it does... as do many other methodologies of vocal training.

It's mainly because of the warm-ups and exercises that it contains. Several of these warm-ups are shared amongst other methods, too.

The main tenet of SLS (besides "relaxation") is to sing like you speak.

I don't really agree with this because there are definitely times that you want your vocals to be more emotive and versatile.

Brian McKnight is a famous example of a singer who left the SLS approach because it didn't let him sing the way he wanted to.

In many ways, it's very restricting and limiting.

I'm not saying that SLS is all bad or anything, but that you shouldn't blindly put faith in it to solve all your troubles.

If you're struggling with range, it'd be smart to take note of the exercises, but maybe not the philosophy.

(I used to have a measly 2 octave range, but hit 4 octave last week -- 3 in chest/mixed, the rest in head/falsetto)

Just a warning, is all. ^^

I totally agree with you, but hey, I need to start somewhere, right?

sup kevin,

They suggested that you stay on a CD until you feel comfortable moving on, but if there is a exercise that you can't get through then just skip it and come back to it later. Most of the exercises on the first couple CD is basics and pretty straight forward.

hey jon!

haha yeah I know but I'm on CD 3 which starts the exercises.. so 1 CD a month is alright for now, until it gets harder?

hahaha, I didn't look at your name first, so I was like... he knows my name what the heck?!

[Guest noobsinger]

i have been practicing SS CD 6 for more than half a year.. but still cannot see improvement i wonder why...

oh ya, i practice 1 to 2 times daily..

[Guest Fuma]

^^^ Maybe u dont see results because you're standard of acceptable singing has improved and so maybe ur being too hard on yourself, this often happens when i play badminton because i improve anything from before and even while i play seems to be un acceptable to me. Hmm trying singing a song and compare to a song you sang a while ago. (Then you may see iimprovements.)

i downloaded it yesterday, i work on it for two days and move to the next cd, im on cd2 right now xD , i would suggest not moving onto another cd until u can completely dominate the one before, but im starting to see just a little result now so seems like its useful.

[Guest nazjoong]

I totally agree with you, but hey, I need to start somewhere, right?

hey jon!

haha yeah I know but I'm on CD 3 which starts the exercises.. so 1 CD a month is alright for now, until it gets harder?

hahaha, I didn't look at your name first, so I was like... he knows my name what the heck?!

i took days to finish reading this thread, I agree with you, I'm also would like to try this SLS . Hopefully it can increase my range, and help me to better control my vocal and piching...

i have been practicing SS CD 6 for more than half a year.. but still cannot see improvement i wonder why...

oh ya, i practice 1 to 2 times daily..

more than half year?

They always insist to try to practise within our vocal range, say if we have only 2 ocatves and not trying to go 1 note higher ( since it beyond our comfortable range), how does it help?

[Guest noobsinger]

i took days to finish reading this thread, I agree with you, I'm also would like to try this SLS . Hopefully it can increase my range, and help me to better control my vocal and piching...

more than half year?

They always insist to try to practise within our vocal range, say if we have only 2 ocatves and not trying to go 1 note higher ( since it beyond our comfortable range), how does it help?

well, i have 3 octave now thx to SS, i can sing up to E above female high C. but then there's no point to be able to sing so high when i cant even sing well. the ultimate goal of SLS and SS is to develop a "MIX" voice. and after training so hard, well , i think i have a mix..but then the mix is not as heavy as expected... and now im stuck..

[Guest nazjoong]

well, i have 3 octave now thx to SS, i can sing up to E above female high C. but then there's no point to be able to sing so high when i cant even sing well. the ultimate goal of SLS and SS is to develop a "MIX" voice. and after training so hard, well , i think i have a mix..but then the mix is not as heavy as expected... and now im stuck..

am only 1 and half octave , *sob* *sob*. hope I can add 1 octave more. E above female high C is very high dood. so jealous with you. Actually I'm confuse, does MIX voice same with Belting voice ?

And where in the CD for us to learn pitching technique?

I'm also confuse with Falsetto vs Headtone.

In SLS, they keep insist that Falsetto and head voice is different, but I heard, those in Europe Falsetto and HEadtone is similar... hurmmmmm

[Guest J0N]

I think what would help you guys is to read the singingsucess forum. They're other students in there that have similar problems, but keep in mind that the people that are giving advice are also people who are using the SLS program and not some professionals.

I've been using it on and off ever since I don't know when of last year. But comparing to the first time I started wanting to sing, I have to say that I've improved. LOL!! Even though its not much, but an improvement is an improvement. It helped me learn about my own voice. Some of the stuff about singing for me was really what I have to find out for my self by just experimenting.

I think they advise you to finish the program first before you try to sing. Something about needing to build the foundation for singing. What I recommend is to find a vocal teacher if you could.

Oh yeah, and I still can't sing.

[Guest noobsinger]

am only 1 and half octave , *sob* *sob*. hope I can add 1 octave more. E above female high C is very high dood. so jealous with you. Actually I'm confuse, does MIX voice same with Belting voice ?

And where in the CD for us to learn pitching technique?

I'm also confuse with Falsetto vs Headtone.

In SLS, they keep insist that Falsetto and head voice is different, but I heard, those in Europe Falsetto and HEadtone is similar... hurmmmmm

i believe that all the liproll scales are good for pitching. jst my 2cents btw, the pitch that u mean is pitch accuracy or the pitching level? to be frankly, SS is quite effective, my friends said that my singing had improved alot..but that is not what i want..

falsetto is actually quite similiar with headtone, some professional call headvoice as reinforced falsetto. in SS, falsetto is much more airy and it is not connected with your chest voice. headvoice on the other hand is connected and the voice is richer than falsetto.

[Guest nazjoong]

i believe that all the liproll scales are good for pitching. jst my 2cents btw, the pitch that u mean is pitch accuracy or the pitching level? to be frankly, SS is quite effective, my friends said that my singing had improved alot..but that is not what i want..

falsetto is actually quite similiar with headtone, some professional call headvoice as reinforced falsetto. in SS, falsetto is much more airy and it is not connected with your chest voice. headvoice on the other hand is connected and the voice is richer than falsetto.

i refer to pitching accuracy..... which exercise will help me for this ya

[Guest noobsinger]

i refer to pitching accuracy..... which exercise will help me for this ya

i dont think SS CD is teaching much on that, brett manning has a product solely for pitching if im not mistaken.. perfect pitch or something

[Guest Fuma]

how fast should your voice get tired ?? is it possible to go through a whole cd without damaging your voice?

[Guest noobsinger]

how fast should your voice get tired ?? is it possible to go through a whole cd without damaging your voice?

The SS exercise is meant to minimize the damage of practicing. Unlike some methods may required u to bring up chest voice or some may even require u to shout..

[Guest M&M's]

hey jon!

haha yeah I know but I'm on CD 3 which starts the exercises.. so 1 CD a month is alright for now, until it gets harder?

hahaha, I didn't look at your name first, so I was like... he knows my name what the heck?!

How long should be spent on a cd?

[chuuleee]

Can anyone PM all of them to me if you have them, because

all of the other ones expired, and I really want to see if it will help me.

Thanks!

[Guest sevigne.]

i really want to try this; anyone care to share w/ me ^^;;

pretty please?

[Guest Natural87]

just want to comment...(not necessarily answering the question)

Having great range is one thing, but its really about the tone and the presentation of the voice.

With that said, sing songs that suit your voice.

[Guest StargazerBlue]

For all you people out there trying to scab a free download, take into consideration the time that these people have spent into making this. I know we all have excuses:

"My parents won't let me"

"It's too expensive."

"I don't have a credit card"

"I don't have paypal"

If you really want to improve your singing, you'd be willing to go to the means to get this CD. Honestly, $200 is NOT MUCH. if you want to improve then you can just practise everyday while knowing some of the basics. Go to a voice teacher. Even a few lessons from them will cost more than this CD set, and I guarantee that you will learn SOMETHING NEW from the teacher if they teach SLS/SS.

And to the people above who are looking for a quick fix: THIS IS NOT IT. IT REQUIRES THE SAME AMOUNT OF PRACTISE AS LEARNING FROM OTHER METHODS DOES. Sometimes this will mean years. For others, it may mean only a few months. IT IS DEPENDANT ON THE INDIVIDUAL. Practising for only 30 minutes for 4 times a week and rushing through the CDs in a week/month is not the way to go. STICK WITH ONE CD UNTIL YOU FEEL YOU HAVE MASTERED IT. Sometimes you may feel that it's too easy, but often there is something that you are doing wrong. I've been on CD 5 for around 3 months now, just trying to tap into my heavy mix. I still can't do it, but the next CD moves on too far so I'm sticking with CD 5 until I can before I move on. SLS/SS is not a fast way, nor is it an easy way. It requires the same dedication and practise. It's simply a safer method of utilising your voice. Generally all good singers out there with good range are using a form of mix voice. Mix voice is not limited to SLS, just remembe that. You can learn singing correctly without doing SLS and still be singing properly, with range, emotion, tone etc.

Speaking of which, those things come with time. You can't expect an octave increase in a week. That's absurd - you have to work slowly until you get it.

And lastly, it's about experimentation. Some of the exercises don't work for everyone. It's about modifying the exercises and finding new areas in your voice, and trying to tap into them. I remember I found my mix by making cat sounds. Yes, cat sounds. If you find MUM very effective, then use that more. Make it heavier, lighter, lower larynx, squeaky, and you never know maybe it will be a breakthrough.

I just hope you're not all looking for a quick fix so you can make it into SM or JYP or the like. Music shouldn't be so commercialised. I know that most people want to improve singing because they want to make it into some entertainment company but honestly, once you get into it and once you get good at it you'll appreciate music much more and use it as a form of relaxation/enjoyment. Many people who do make it into entertainment centres have the happiness they feel while associating with music dragged away, and it becomes a CHORE.

...wow, why am I ranting? I'm so weird XD. Anyway, if anyone wants to share SLS/SS experiences with me or ask questions PM me

[Guest lovenara]

i think i bump this topic up:)