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47 minutes ago, corey said:

LoL, you described exactly the reason why I am often bored and frustrated with K-Dramas. Starts nicely and about ep 8 to 9 becomes stale and boring and often the reason is because the couple who are seemingly in love behave as if they are below the age of consent and afraid to get caught. And they are in their 30 of course. That is why I was so very shocked by this drama I'll to to you when the weather is nice because it is destroying one of the K-Drama tropes, namely that women (and the majority of men) in K-Drama land have no sex drive.

 

I am also in a desperate search for an uplifting and positive drama to watch - someone suggested here (again, please forgive me ca't remember who it was) Miss Korea, but I found it rather weird and could not get through the first ep.

Out of desperation I re-watched 1% of something and I think I will re-watch Beautiful Mind

 

Edit: @azureblue7, he looks so handsome clean shaven in this clip. And very sexy in a beret and army fatigues!

That's also why after FTLY , I don't really go for rom com anymore.. unless by Hyuk of course. I'd rather watch suspense, horror or other genre..

 

And yes, all the close ups of him in real man..wow..you can see his natural good looks..his complexion is great for his age and his eyes are really gentle looking and beautiful.

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37 minutes ago, corey said:

LoL, you described exactly the reason why I am often bored and frustrated with K-Dramas. Starts nicely and about ep 8 to 9 becomes stale and boring and often the reason is because the couple who are seemingly in love behave as if they are below the age of consent and afraid to get caught. And they are in their 30 of course. That is why I was so very shocked by this drama I'll to to you when the weather is nice because it is destroying one of the K-Drama tropes, namely that women (and the majority of men) in K-Drama land have no sex drive.

OK, I'll try it- the name of the show is "when the weather is nice"?

 

37 minutes ago, corey said:

I am also in a desperate search for an uplifting and positive drama to watch - someone suggested here (again, please forgive me ca't remember who it was) Miss Korea, but I found it rather weird and could not get through the first ep.

Out of desperation I re-watched 1% of something and I think I will re-watch Beautiful Mind

 

If you are looking for something uplifting then for sure watch "Misaeng". I just rewatched it and enjoyed it so much! No romance, but it's not that kind of show. It's more about people. So good! "Miss Korea" was actually recommended to me cause it has the same actor that played in Misaeng. I also started watching Miss Korea and found it a bit odd... I will try and make it past the first episode :)

Also I will recommend " MS. TEMPER & NAM JUNG GI", though I will say you will have to brace for how annoyingly weak the main male character is in the beginning. Don't worry- he gets better :)

 

I can now update, I tried watching episode 11 of Mr. Sunshine and fell asleep, so I'm done... 

 

So bored!!

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27 minutes ago, Biology Lesson said:

OK, I'll try it- the name of the show is "when the weather is nice"?

 

The show name is "I'll go to you wnen the weather is nice" But wait, I did not say I recommended it, Lol :D. It is sooooooo slow paced, quaint and peaceful it may put you to sleep within 10 minutes!!! Not sure it fits your current bored state of mind.

If you want thrills, I recommend "The world of the married" or "The life of married couple" (translation varies) . It is by the same PD as "Money Flower" and I am watching ep. 6 which aired last night. An adult drama. I recommend watching the first 10 minutes, and then you will know what it is all about and if you like it or not.

 

27 minutes ago, Biology Lesson said:

If you are looking for something uplifting then for sure watch "Misaeng". [...]

Also I will recommend " MS. TEMPER & NAM JUNG GI", though I will say you will have to brace for how annoyingly weak the main male character is in the beginning. Don't worry- he gets better :)

Oh no, not Misaeng. I watched the first 6 or so episodes becuase it was recomended as very good, and I like Im Si Wan (he looks so painfully young there!) But I just could not. The office politics reminded me so much of my old job that I was simply unable to watch it - it brought me nightmares and I am not exaggerating. It may be uplifting later on, but what I watched was horribly depressing for me.

I will try the other show you mentioned, though.

 

 

 

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27 minutes ago, corey said:

If you want thrills, I recommend "The world of the married" or "The life of married couple" (translation varies) . It is by the same PD as "Money Flower" and I am watching ep. 6 which aired last night. An adult drama. I recommend watching the first 10 minutes, and then you will know what it is all about and if you like it or not.

I think it’s by the PD of Beautiful Mind, not MF :) I think I’ll check it out soon but at the moment not really feeling like watching a show that’s gonna make one’s blood boil!

 

If anyone is interested in a mystery, quirky and thrilling drama, check out 365: Repeat the year. It’s a remake from a Japanese show and I’ve been enjoying it so far :) much more than TMWYS oops! Sorry Hyukie :( his acting was the only thing that made me stay with the drama but the storyline of this show is superior compared to TMWYS. 

 

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7 minutes ago, The Reel Life said:

I think it’s by the PD of Beautiful Mind, not MF :) I think I’ll check it out soon but at the moment not really feeling like watching a show that’s gonna make one’s blood boil!

 

Really? BM not MF? Sorry, this is me being lazy and not checking properly. But the blood definitely boils during this show!

 

7 minutes ago, The Reel Life said:

If anyone is interested in a mystery, quirky and thrilling drama, check out 365: Repeat the year. It’s a remake from a Japanese show and I’ve been enjoying it so far :) much more than TMWYS oops! Sorry Hyukie :( his acting was the only thing that made me stay with the drama but the storyline of this show is superior compared to TMWYS.

I have watched the first four episodes. The only thing I did not like was the actress playing FL - I really hated her in the Suspicious Partner, because her character was soooooo annoying and she was similarly annoying in 365. I m planning on continuing watching at some unspecified future.

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7 minutes ago, corey said:

I have watched the first four episodes. The only thing I did not like was the actress playing FL - I really hated her in the Suspicious Partner, because her character was soooooo annoying and she was similarly annoying in 365. I m planning on continuing watching at some unspecified future.

Haha I understand. Her character is not very likeable at all.  But I do enjoy watching Lee Joon Hyuk, the male lead. Not as charismatic an actor but solid, gentle, pleasing to the eyes and he has a very earnest quality to him which I like. 

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25 minutes ago, The Reel Life said:

If anyone is interested in a mystery, quirky and thrilling drama, check out 365: Repeat the year. It’s a remake from a Japanese show and I’ve been enjoying it so far :) much more than TMWYS oops! Sorry Hyukie :( his acting was the only thing that made me stay with the drama but the storyline of this show is superior compared to TMWYS. 

 

I don't think you need to apologize about TMWYS. The more I think about that show, the more I realize that it has two things going for it - JH (obviously) and twists! That entire show was based on essentially making the audience expect one thing, and then springing a twist on them! That's it! And if I think even more about it, the show makes absolutely no sense :) Again, it was much better than Voice, but still not a good show. It's a fun, one watch show, that is not very intelligent. That's it. OHJ was fantastic, but he needs much better script writers...

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@Biology Lesson Speaking about sex scenes and tension and/or the lack of it in k-drama, I just remembered that, among all the things people criticized about Lee Da Hae’s character in Chuno, was how she showed some cleavage in the drama. Of course this was 10 years ago and audiences may have opened their minds a little bit since then but, maybe this is an indication that the korean audience is too conservative and it is them that prompt all this censorship? Just a thought 

 

P.S Miss Korea does start slow and weird, sorry, I’m not sure I warned about that. I ended up really liking the couples in it but I’m not sure I can say it was perfect

 

And sorry that Mr Sunshine didn’t work out for you. To be fair, I didn’t watch it with undivided attention, I was distracted at times (my mom was definitely more into it) but I did finish it and liked the characters, overall and also the cinematography, music, etc. I guess the historical aspect was another point of interest for me, it made me curious about that period of time. Byun Yo Han’s character (Misaeng actor) was among my favorites and his ending was the most shocking to me. Kind of haunting. He was such a beautiful character. 

 

I hear that “Secret love affair” is sexy, but I don’t feel the inclination to watch it. I’m not in the mood to watch dramas “about” relationships, I’m more into dramas about other themes that happen to focus or at least build relationships 

 

I’m currently watching “Chicago Typewriter” because it has been very praised and I thought it would focus in that period of time during the Japanese colonization but to my disappointment, those are only short flashbacks. I can’t give an assessment of the entire drama since I’ve only watched the first 6 eps, but I can already tell, its slow paced. The drama has an interesting premise, great atmosphere, OST etc but I think the majority here would find the female lead irritating haha! I’ll definitely continue watching because I want to know what the whole mystery is all about but, Its a weird one. I’ll let you know how I feel in the end. 

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36 minutes ago, dramafan33 said:

I’m currently watching “Chicago Typewriter” [...] The drama has an interesting premise, great atmosphere, OST etc but I think the majority here would find the female lead irritating haha!

ROTFL, how did you know?As usual, I also heard that this is a great show, started watching and could not get past the first episode. The annoying dirty-poor clinging female ! (I was just after watching Boys over Flowers, heaven help me)

 

57 minutes ago, Biology Lesson said:

 That's it. OHJ was fantastic, but he needs much better script writers...

I second that wholeheartedly

1 hour ago, The Reel Life said:

Haha I understand. Her character is not very likeable at all.  But I do enjoy watching Lee Joon Hyuk, the male lead. Not as charismatic an actor but solid, gentle, pleasing to the eyes and he has a very earnest quality to him which I like. 

Yes, Lee Joon Hyuk is really enjoyable, I've seen him as the second lead in Are you Human too. And I like the actress who plays the scientist (Lee Shin?), she was the queen in my favourite Hwarang.

 

@dramafan33, I do not think the complaint was about lack of sex scenes per se. It was about K-Drama not doing "sexy". Or not utilizing "sexy" properly by showing emotions between people. We were discussing the sex scene in Iris 2 recently. Was this scene sexy? It was cringe inducing to me, not sexy, and yet it was quite explicit that the couple had sex (even in the shortened version). As I mentioned before (to the point of being boring here), the sexy scene for me was the scene between So So and Gaebong in SOGC when Gaeobong was tying the white tiger headband. The touch between the couple was minimal, it was eyes only  - and yet this scene exuded more sexuality than most kisses in K-Drama.

 

I want sexy as in that photograph of JH in a white unbuttoned shirt lying on a sofa.

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@corey Yes, but a conservative (TV) audience will limit the amount of sexiness portrayed or allowed in the TV shows (maybe)  and also “what” is considered sexy. I mean there has to be a reason why these characters act so “stiff”. Maybe its a cultural thing. Of course we may not like it but maybe koreans ARE different and to them, opening your eyes widely while kissing is supposed to be normal? I suppose that they do find that overly “cute” or “innocent” behaviour “endearing” in general otherwise why do they keep doing it. I mean look at kpop boy and girl groups. The men are “flower boys” and the women act like little girls with mini skirts acting “innocent sexy” (disturbing to a certain degree) 

 

I’m actually genuinely curious to find out how much this is representative of actual korean culture and how much its simply creators laziness, lack of effort, inability to adapt to new audiences, where does the censorship come from and why etc

 

Unrelated but I think JH was super cute in this movie. The movie itself wasn’t good though

 

 

 

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@dramafan33, I was about to say something that you just wrote, that you may well be right that this is a cultural thing. I also wish I knew how much of what is usually shown in K-Dramas is real. Example- the whole marriage thing. In the opening sequence of WoL the annoying FL and JH are at the hairdresser - she is preparing for her marriage ceremony. And she says something that really confused me, namely that they - she and her partner - registered their marriage one month ago. So the registering seemed to be different thatn the actual ceremony! I did a quick wikipedia query and here is what is says

"South Korea also recognizes what it calls "De Facto Marriages" equivalent to "Common Law Marriages"of couples who have not legally registered their marriage but who have either 1. made it publicly known that their relationship is akin to a marriage, 2. had a public wedding ceremony, or 3. have been cohabiting as though they are married."

It made sense to me considering what was said in some other dramas too ("Because it is my first life", "Rooftop prince"). I asked this question here in the forum and one user who is S Korean said there is no such thing as COmmmon Law Marriage in South Korea!

So are the dramas making things up?

The same with contract marriages- is this a real thing? There are many more examples of behaviours which are quite shocking to me and I want to believe these are K-Drama writers' fantasies rather than reflection of the actual state of S Korean society.

 

@Biology Lesson, ha ha, the ML in "Ms Temper" is indeed annoying in the first episode, but I will keep watching :D. This "annoying" I can relate to, being a quite timid person myself....

 

@dramafan33 - the clip that you posted, LoL.  The dance choreography reminded me of the incredible flop that was "Dirty Dancing 2". Diego Luna was kind of cute in that film, too. 

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@corey Diego Luna, so cute but he had a hard time dancing with his two left feet (if I recall correctly) At least JHs character wasn’t supposed to be a great dancer, just someone who was passionate about it :P JH sold that passion and innocence quite well. 

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4 hours ago, dramafan33 said:

@Biology Lesson Speaking about sex scenes and tension and/or the lack of it in k-drama, I just remembered that, among all the things people criticized about Lee Da Hae’s character in Chuno, was how she showed some cleavage in the drama. Of course this was 10 years ago and audiences may have opened their minds a little bit since then but, maybe this is an indication that the korean audience is too conservative and it is them that prompt all this censorship? Just a thought 

 

As @corey said, I'm not talking about nudity, I'm talking about intensity of feelings, of intent. For instance, in Mr. Sunshine the scene I found to be very sexually charged was the scene in which the Japanese-Korean guy touched the hem of the girl's dress after her maid knocked things over at the store. No skin was showing there, it was all about the intensity of his feelings and how charged the situation was. Or in Robbers, one of the most sexually suggestive moments in the show was how Oh-joon was rubbing  Dal-rae hand in the cinema :) again no nudity, just intentions...

When I think about it, I think that the sexiest KRomCom that I've seen (and, again, I haven't seen that many:rolleyes:) was FTLY. I mean they actually commented on LG's manhood, he had to take cold showers, he was clearly (and crazily :) ) lusting after MY, and what's even better, was that she actually wanted him, but she was shy about it, which created tension... In the KRomComs that I've seen, if the woman wants the guy, like in Oh my Venus or Secretary Kim, she behaves like a little girl wanting candy, not like a grown woman. So, no tension. And the guy usually behaves like she is crazy or a pervert... So funny... <_< Also, SOGC was very sexy, as @corey mentioned, with Wang So lusting after Gaebong like that, even though he thought she was a man. I thought the scene in the whorehouse in which Wang so was tying the laces of Gaebong's coat and almost kissing her to be also very sexy or when he was later imagining her and softly touching her chin. Again it wasn't about the almost kiss, it was about the feeling and yearning. That is what makes "sexy", to me at least.

And you know what? It doesn't have to so charged. It can be as sweet as Lee Young trying to grab hold of the girl's hand, while she was teasing him about it. If only Mr. Sunshine had something like, I would have bought the love story...

Is it a coincidence that all my good examples  involve JH? I actually don't think so. It's possible that this is part of the reason why I am a fan of his. His ability to inject realistic emotions and intensity into his characters...  I think you just mentioned that the long longing stares Dae gill was giving LDH's character was JH's idea and not the director's... I can't imagine Chuno without those stares...

I mean look at how he looks in this scene... All of us have been imagining this is a different context... How can we not!? :D

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As to people criticizing LDH for the partial nudity she showed, I think that was idiotic, though I will admit that was a bit jarring to me too. I think the problem was that whatever she wearing was pulled so low. If she just pulled it up a bit, I don't think there would have been a problem...Still, it was idiotic, as I have seen women wear more revealing bathing suits in Kdramas... My complaint with her was her horribly boring acting, but that's a different issue :)

 

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P.S Miss Korea does start slow and weird, sorry, I’m not sure I warned about that. I ended up really liking the couples in it but I’m not sure I can say it was perfect

I just started watching the show and I was kinda distracted too. I will try and watch the show for real and then report back.^_^

 

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And sorry that Mr Sunshine didn’t work out for you. To be fair, I didn’t watch it with undivided attention, I was distracted at times (my mom was definitely more into it) but I did finish it and liked the characters, overall and also the cinematography, music, etc. I guess the historical aspect was another point of interest for me, it made me curious about that period of time. Byun Yo Han’s character (Misaeng actor) was among my favorites and his ending was the most shocking to me. Kind of haunting. He was such a beautiful character. 

the things you mentioned were what impressed me too about the show initially and why I stuck with it until episode 11. It's only in the last few episodes that I noticed I was bored... and Byun Yo Han- I'm really impressed with this guy. I noticed he was also in Six Flying Dragons? That might convince me to watch that show...

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@Biology Lesson I wonder if you’ll stick with 6FD  cause it’s so long! Shall we make a bet? :P(come on bear with me, Im bored) I managed to finish it myself but it didn’t capture my heart. BYH was Lee Bang Ji (Who will later become Ddolbock’s master in TWDR, lol I mean, talk about aging terribly :lol:) and yeah he was good in that too, except LBJ is a sad and broody character so to me it didn’t allow BYH to show all his charms like he did in Misaeng and Mr Sunshine. 
 

Ugh! I miss Jang Hyuk SO MUCH 

 

Btw I reconnected with two old friends via Zoom the other day. One of them introduced me to kdrama way back when Netflix was only a DVD renting service lol and the other one got into kdramas only last year. So we ended up talking about kdramas the whole time and it was strange but I kinda felt like I didn’t want to recommend JH dramas to them. One of them knows him already but she never fell under his spell so (lost cause?) and the other one started googling him but she is now at a “I only want to watch happy fluff” phase so Im like I don’t think she’ll appreciate him lol. At some point I blurted out something like “No dear, you won’t like him, he is short”. It almost felt like I didn’t want to share him lol! But honestly its more like, I’ll be pissed if they don’t appreciate him enough :lol: I’m more hard core over protective fan than I sometimes want to admit

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3 minutes ago, dramafan33 said:

@Biology Lesson I wonder if you’ll stick with 6FD  cause it’s so long! Shall we make a bet? :P(come on bear with me, Im bored) I managed to finish it myself but it didn’t capture my heart. BYH was Lee Bang Ji (Who will later become Ddolbock’s master in TWDR, lol I mean, talk about aging terribly :lol:) and yeah he was good in that too, except LBJ is a sad and broody character so to me it didn’t allow BYH to show all his charms like he did in Misaeng and Mr Sunshine. 
 

Ugh! I miss Jang Hyuk SO MUCH 

:) no need for a bet. In that case- I won't be watching that show! 

 

Lets bet on something else, I'm also bored...

And miss JH. So much that I'm actually going over the "Just...JangHyuk" blog, and it's torturous as it's in Japanese and it's difficult to navigate, but I'm persevering... :D

At any rate, it made me go over the OJH Soompi thread, at the time of Chuno, which made me ran across this translated interview with LDH. It amused me cause OJH's fans were shipping LDH with OJH so hard, that this interview annoyed them... These guys were seriously shipping them, I wonder how they felt when he got married :)

So this is the translation they posted. She obviously really likes and respects JH, and I actually agree with what she said about the plot:

 

 

Q: You were very open/familiar with OJH during filming and that gave rise to some misunderstanding (about your relationship).

A: Ji-Ho oppa wears his heart on his sleeve and his style of treating people in an honest way can be misunderstood, but I’m actually closer to Hyeok oppa. (laughs) I was really close with Ji-Ho oppa during filming, but we haven’t been in touch since filming ended. Even during filming, we only spoke on the phone five times. Hyeok oppa and I call each other by honorific titles, but he really looks after me. Even now, whenever the going gets tough, the first person I would look for is Hyeok oppa. Of course during filming I was so glad to have received an excessive amount of love from Ji-Ho oppa and all the staff. 

 

In the same interview, LDH also said (in gist):

 

• The pebble that Dae-Gil gave Eon-Nyeon (also known as “Choco” on the Chuno thread) was actually “completely cold”. During filming LDH had to rub the pebble and act like it was warm. In a later scene, when little Kim Jin-U (who plays the royal grandson) was sitting on her lap, LDH ad-libbed a bit and asked the child to “try touching the pebble". The toddler responded by stroking the pebble and saying “it’s warm”. LDH laughed and remarked about how she thought they’ve totally messed up a little boy.

 

• She would’ve picked Dae-Gil over Tae-Ha.

LDH wished that there were more developments between Eon-Nyeon and Dae-Gil. Chuno was very popular so the series probably ended with room for a ‘Season 2’ to be made. Many people had hoped that Eon-Nyeon and Dae-Gil would get married. LDH felt that, while the two may not become husband and wife, in the event that Chuno Season 2 comes to fruition it would have been better if some room had been left for Eon-Nyeon and Dae-Gil to get things off their chest.

 

• She has been asked by the director if she would star in Chuno Season 2. Right now she is still sitting on the fence about this.

 

• To appease viewers’ anger and to create more impact, she would have preferred for Eon-Nyeon to die.

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@Biology Lesson Wow! Very interesting and I agree with her too! I still feel so frustrated that Daegil and Unnyun never quite TALKED after finding each other. And I love that LDH was closer to JH :P (sorry OJH fans but come on, there was no chemistry between him and LDH, at all!) Unnyun’s death would’ve been a good ending. And how dare they even dreamed of a Chuno S2 without Daegil? ^_^

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8 hours ago, dramafan33 said:

@Biology Lesson Wow! Very interesting and I agree with her too! I still feel so frustrated that Daegil and Unnyun never quite TALKED after finding each other. And I love that LDH was closer to JH :P (sorry OJH fans but come on, there was no chemistry between him and LDH, at all!) Unnyun’s death would’ve been a good ending. And how dare they even dreamed of a Chuno S2 without Daegil? ^_^

You already know what I think about Chuno- I think it's a highly flawed show. Just as I thought about TMWYS- problematic plot filled with holes, kept afloat by an incredible JH performance. And the lack of real closure between Daegil and Unnyun was one of those holes. And yes, the relationship between Tae Ha and Unnyun was one of the reasons I was fast forwarding the show. It wasn't that I was rooting for Unnyun to get back with Daegil. I thought she was completely incompatible with him at this point of his life. No, It was that I though Tae Ha and Unnyun were that boring together! :). And reading the thread, OJH fans were so salty about this LDH interview and about the support DG got. They were trying to find ways to explain why LDH was saying those things and not announcing her relationship with OJH, which I find so disrespectful! Shipping real actors to me is very disrespectful!

It's also funny to me that they were happy for Tae Ha being alive and getting the girl at the end. What they didn't realize is that whoever dies at the end- owns the show! That character becomes iconic, and everyone else- will be relegated to the background. That's how it goes. This is why I think LDH wanted her character to die at the end. I think she understood this. The funnier thing was that OJH's fans very clearly wanted to resent JH but they couldn't because he was so nice and supportive of their guy. So they end up resenting JH's fans... :) 

 

Oh, and as to the Chuno 2, what the production said was that they were thinking about a prequel centering on DG and TH's stories. No way would they have done Chuno 2 without JH :) . The even more interesting thing is that I'm seeing comments from the PD about Chuno 2, from LDH and OJH, all saying they want to do it. The only person missing from the discussion is JH. No comment from him.

 

Edit: reading some more of the thread I see now that OJH himself was making comments about LDH... I'm sorry, but some actors are idiots to be talking about their private life in public. JH has the right idea- private life needs to remain exactly that! Private!

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11 hours ago, dramafan33 said:

At some point I blurted out something like “No dear, you won’t like him, he is short”. It almost felt like I didn’t want to share him lol! But honestly its more like, I’ll be pissed if they don’t appreciate him enough :lol: I’m more hard core over protective fan than I sometimes want to admit

I got puzzled when some friends I recommended them JH drama, they didn't like him. 1 friend even told me that she preferred the guy acting Crash Landing compared to JH. So it's really individual taste.

 

4 hours ago, Biology Lesson said:

JH has the right idea- private life needs to remain exactly that! Private!

I've always admired this of him. Keeping his private life private. But of course, there'll be people who feel he should disclose his private life to the public because he's a celebrity. What sort of weird thinking this is.

 

I do feel that sometimes actors who disclose their personal life, maybe at the beginning did it out of goodwill. To let you all know I'm married. Please no shipping. Something to this effect. But people, especially a bunch of scary people, they will somehow dig out who the spouse is. All sorts of information about the spouse will surface. That's when things get out of hand, the actor from then onwards, will not reveal any more information about his family. But when the actor don't reveal any more information, these bunch of people will cook up some information. Example : the couple is having a 3rd wheel in the marriage. And the 3rd wheel is always 1 of the actresses he had acted with.

 

However, not sure if it's true, but I also hear before, sometimes is the production company, in order to get support/viewers for the drama, purposely cook up some "stories" just to promote the drama. And what information is more "juicy" than a 3rd wheel in the marriage?

 

 

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