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7 hours ago, kireeti2 said:

joo won got lead role in his second drama, which is Bridal Mask, but that drama was targeted towards regional fans, and of course it did pull few International fans, but it was not a typical historic drama like "Moon Embracing the Sun" which was regional and International hit.

 

Actually, now that we're on the subject, that would be an interesting alternate history/parallel timeline to see playing out, because JW actually was considered for Moon Embracing the Sun (as Jung Il Woo's character), but had to decline it due to scheduling conflicts when Ojakgyo Brothers got extended. That's what gave him the opening in his 2012 schedule to take on Gaksital and, well, the rest of history. However, if Ojakgyo hadn't been extended (still successful, but no extension), and JW had taken on Moon Embracing the Sun, I wonder where he'd be now :) 

 

By the way, @Calli, if you don't mind my asking: what country are you in right now? Because I get the sense that the context we ourselves are in as fans affect what we observe of how Hallyu works (i.e. @kireeti2's in India, I'm in Canada, most of the Instagram fans are in Japan or Southeast Asia, etc.). So, for example, here in North America, which is still relatively new to the Hallyu business, nothing beats K-pop: the K-pop idols will always be at the top (along with whatever dramas they starred in), followed by the "teenage heart throb" Hallyu stars, followed by those who take on more serious/adult dramas, etc. In this context, JW happens to be on this weird cusp where he's...more popular than a ton of other actors (like, he is still a Hallyu star), but is close to the bottom when we think about ranking the stars specifically.

 

Actually, if you look up Good Doctor on many English-language sites (Google, YouTube, etc.), you're more likely to get the American version in the results now: so the remake started off as a boon to JW at first, but that backfired pretty quickly :P 

 

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Yes, I know this just broke the one-hour rule (@Calli, there's an unwritten rule that you should wait at least an hour between posts so you don't swamp it), but I thought this would be automatically merged with my previous comment ;) 

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28 minutes ago, kittyna said:

So, for example, here in North America, which is still relatively new to the Hallyu business, nothing beats K-pop: the K-pop idols will always be at the top (along with whatever dramas they starred in), followed by the "teenage heart throb" Hallyu stars, followed by those who take on more serious/adult dramas, etc. In this context, JW happens to be on this weird cusp where he's...more popular than a ton of other actors (like, he is still a Hallyu star), but is close to the bottom when we think about ranking the stars specifically.

In India,both K-pop and K-dramas are relatively new as well and due to lock down effect, at least in India, which who have access to Netflix started to watch more and more K-dramas.So, yeah, India is no different than North America.

29 minutes ago, kittyna said:

Actually, now that we're on the subject, that would be an interesting alternate history/parallel timeline to see playing out, because JW actually was considered for Moon Embracing the Sun (as Jung Il Woo's character), but had to decline it due to scheduling conflicts when Ojakgyo Brothers got extended. That's what gave him the opening in his 2012 schedule to take on Gaksital and, well, the rest of history. However, if Ojakgyo hadn't been extended (still successful, but no extension), and JW had taken on Moon Embracing the Sun, I wonder where he'd be now :) 

I think Joo won would have bagged at least one award had he taken the second lead role. But, of course he should have waited much longer to play as lead in a drama. And I do think Bridal Mask laid foundation for Joo won as a versatile actor and made directors take interest in him.

1 hour ago, kittyna said:

ol - If you watched Good Doctor and came away thinking Park Si On was more hot than cute, you'd be the exception :P But it's "hot" that sells to the fangirls, whereas "cute" (like Park Si On) leads to more all-around popularity 

Well, for me I really didn't notice Joo won's looks when I first watched few episodes of Good Doctor(maybe its because of I am male), even when Na In Hae gave him compliments did not made me realize how good looking he is. But, it is because of his acting, he made sure that audience first notice his looks than his looks, so, after watching few episodes then I finally hit me, than he does look cute. But, I should say I became his fan for his acting and not looks, and this is true for all the actors out there who makes fans based on performance rather than looks,for instance, he is in the league of Ju Ji-hoon(Kingdom drama), Lee Je-hoon(signal drama)

 

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lol - I was hoping to get a chance to hear @Calli's take on these things first, but I guess I'll start :P 

 

23 hours ago, kireeti2 said:

I think Joo won would have bagged at least one award had he taken the second lead role. But, of course he should have waited much longer to play as lead in a drama. And I do think Bridal Mask laid foundation for Joo won as a versatile actor and made directors take interest in him.

 

Yeah - I definitely think Gaksital had a massive impact here, but I also think the fact that JW did it simultaneously with 1N2D really added to it, too. 1N2D showed just how much JW was putting into his portrayal of Lee Kang To, and he got any more versatility points by following that up with lighter roles: Level 7Catch Me and - obviously - Good Doctor.

 

23 hours ago, kireeti2 said:

Well, for me I really didn't notice Joo won's looks when I first watched few episodes of Good Doctor(maybe its because of I am male), even when Na In Hae gave him compliments did not made me realize how good looking he is.

 

My first JW drama was King of Baking, Kim Tak Gu and even so, I didn't think he was handsome at first. Sometimes, I still don't - it depends on the specific video clip or photograph. :P But I do think that JW has a very striking and unforgettable appearance, which probably gets you farther as an actor anyway ;) 

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On 3/28/2021 at 7:14 PM, Calli said:

It's so interesting what you said about JW's strong suit being more serious roles. I watched Good Doctor on Netflix and because I was so blown away by his acting I watched Alice right after... I thought I was seeing (and hearing) things. Everything was so different - his posture and general body language and vocal tone and it was just like seeing someone else completely. I guess since he was playing an autistic savante in the one drama and a detective born with a genetic defect that doesn't allow him to recognize/process emotions properly in the other, I was expecting him to be different but he wasn't simply different, he was honestly a completely different person I had trouble recognizing. Which only speaks to how incredibly gifted an actor he is. And that impression continued and strengthened while I watched Tomorrow Cantabile - even if the drama wasn't very successful - JW's acting gift still shone through. And his hard work. I would have never guessed he only prepared 4-5 months learning to play the piano, violin and how to conduct, looking at what he conveyed in the drama. So, so far, imo he only has strong suits (no matter the genre) - no weak suit in sight ;) 

That's Joo Won charm for you. The versatility of his acting blows everyone away.

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Hello @Calli.

Like everyone else I welcome you in Joo Won's thread. We don't have many people active here for now.. Some still stop by and say Hi whenever anything important is up. So any new member is always welcomed and appreciated here specially those who loves to appreciate Joo Won's acting and his sweet personality.

 

If you're looking for a direction for now I will highly recommend Bridal Mask (Gaksital) and Yong Pal and movie 'Catch Me' if you're in for some rom-com.

I didn't notice if you have watched 2d1n yet. May be you can watch episode by episode.

About Interviews- Did you watch his KBS  Happy Together appearances? He actually appeared 4 times there but I think 2 of those are available full episode on Youtube with English subtitles.

 

Oh and OSTs... Do search Joo Won OSTs in YT. He just sings so well.

 

One of the plus point of being anew Joo won fan is we have lots of JW work and content around.. I mean you can go on and on lots to watch admire.


But the downside is we don't have English translated subbed like other fandom very much as the fandom as a whole isn't that active. Gone are the golden days. Let's hope it'll be back.

 

And @Calli if I'm not wrong I think I had a conversation with you in vlive fan board. 'moonstruck' rings a bell?

 

 

@kireeti2and @kittyna hello. How are you guys? I've been no show for a long time. :bashful:

 

Are you guys excited for Carter?

Kofic-the website for Korean Film wrote a news on Joo Won in 24th March about him Joining Carter.

 

JOO Won to Headline JUNG Byung-gil’s CARTER for Netflix

Mar 24, 2021
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News Link: http://www.koreanfilm.or.kr/eng/news/news.jsp?blbdComCd=601006&seq=5519&mode=VIEW

 

Here's also news on movie Firefighter. http://www.koreanfilm.or.kr/eng/news/news.jsp?blbdComCd=601006&seq=5344&mode=VIEW

 

I actually saw this before but failed to notice the most important thing. The news said the expected release date of Firefighter which is subjected to delay due to covid. But a probable date nonetheless.

 

Principal photography for Fireman is due to kick off on May 18 and the film is being financed by AceMaker Movieworks. The project was originally aiming to start production in late March but experienced a slight delay, first to April 16 and now to its current mid-May date owing to concerns over the Covid-19 pandemic. Due to the delays, actor YOO Seung-ho (Seondal: The Man Who Sells the River, 2016) was forced to step down from the project. The film will find its way to theaters in 2021."

 

The distributor Company enlisted 'Firefighter' in their coming up list.

 

http://www.acemaker.co.kr/en/movie_lst.html#coming

 

If things are nice and good we're having two movie from Joo Won this year. :partyblob:

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8 hours ago, flutterby06 said:

 hello. How are you guys? I've been no show for a long time. 

I am doing fine and I hope your doing fine as well,  and waiting eagerly for Joo won's next project. And thanks for sharing the article about joo won's movies, I am more interested in Joo won's Fire Fighter movie than the thriller movie Carter, like, the former is more human oriented and Joo won considerably does well in such kind of projects and the movie has some heavy weight cast members, so, I think this should be joo won's second successful movie and I hope we gets an award for this movie.

I also hope with this movie carter he get some international fan base, which will also help him in securing projects with good story.

I just hope we can see his movies by the end of the summer, and Netflix is known for completing its projects at faster pace, so, yeah, we can expect the two of movies of Joo won by the end of second half of the year

 

 

 

 

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3 hours ago, kireeti2 said:

am doing fine and I hope your doing fine as well,  and waiting eagerly for Joo won's next project. And thanks for sharing the article about joo won's movies, I am more interested in Joo won's Fire Fighter movie than the thriller movie Carter, like, the former is more human oriented and Joo won considerably does well in such kind of projects and the movie has some heavy weight cast members, so, I think this should be joo won's second successful movie and I hope we gets an award for this movie.

 

I am fine too.

 

To be honest I'm more excited about 'Firefighter' too.. because he gets to work with veterans and it's genre and story is based on real tragic incident.

 

Honestly my instant reaction when I got the news of carter was this-

 

 

Pretty selfish I know..But I was very eagerly waiting for a Joo Won drama news. Being in a movie means longer wait for next drama.

 

But I saw many green signal for Carter. It's a Netflix project and it's action. JW has always been confident about action genre and in his post army interview he mentioned Netflix as a different medium that he is interested in saying rating isn't everything. So I could tell he probably is planning to join there.

 

Also most fans were very excited for this not only because Carter is having the title first Korean Blockbuster movie from Netflix so it was very appealing have that title too. That made me proud of Joo Won. And it proved again how industry insider has believe in his acting. Because JW isn't really that successful in movies yet. His only successful movie is probably 'It's Him.' But the fact Carter Directior and Netflix courted Joo Won for their first blockbuster- the idea was just so pleasing. With his caliber of acting and hard work he deserved that attention.

Carter is said to have intense action scenes. I hope Joo Won can complete the filming safely.

 

On bright side I hope to see JW engaging in his movie promotional activities for upcoming Firefighters. I'm already excited for upcoming interviews and hopefully vareity show appearances. :gangnamstyle:

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Hey everyone, I'm so sorry it took me so long to reply, I currently have a bit of a health situation on my hands but as soon as I was able to, I read your posts and I'm dying to catch up^^ 

So, @kittynayou asked where I was from. I'm from Germany. K-drama found me about 5 years ago when it was still very much a sub culture in Germany. If it weren't for Netflix and the tons of k-dramas it made available in the last year, many people would have no idea what Hallyu is. Despite BTS. And I think most people in Germany still have no clue what Hallyu is to be honest but amongst young people, esp those on Twitter - which I think is the main social media platform where fangirling takes place - k-pop and k-drama is definitely a thing. Twitter is also how I became aware of K-world. And what a brand new, rich, amazing, sometimes upsetting world it turned out to be~

On 3/30/2021 at 3:22 PM, kittyna said:

My first JW drama was King of Baking, Kim Tak Gu and even so, I didn't think he was handsome at first. Sometimes, I still don't - it depends on the specific video clip or photograph. :P But I do think that JW has a very striking and unforgettable appearance, which probably gets you farther as an actor anyway ;) 

 

As far as me coming away from Good Doctor thinking Joo Won was "hot" goes (lol, I didn't think that's what needed to happen for the drama to become successful internationally tbh) - I came away from the drama and Joo Won's performance thinking he's insanely talented and charismatic and to me that actually translates into "hotness", if such a label is even necessary. While watching Alice I thought his is a face that I could look at forever without ever feeling "now, that's enough" :wub: he just became more and more beautiful the longer I looked at him and the more of his acting and real life personality I got to experience. I just think he's the whole package, beautiful inside out. 

 

On 3/30/2021 at 8:41 PM, flutterby06 said:

Hello @Calli.

Like everyone else I welcome you in Joo Won's thread. We don't have many people active here for now.. Some still stop by and say Hi whenever anything important is up. So any new member is always welcomed and appreciated here specially those who loves to appreciate Joo Won's acting and his sweet personality.

Hello @flutterby06 , thanks so much to you too for the warm welcome^^ and for the many helpful suggestions. 

I started watching season 2 of 2D&1N right after I finished Alice but I'm only at episode 12. And I did watch the 2 episodes of Happy Together with JW on YouTube with English subs and loved them. I vividly remember wanting to try his chestnut creation in that one episode^^ What are the other 2 episodes? Have they never been subbed or translated? 

 

Too bad there's not a lot of current translated content for international Joo Woon fans to access but I'm happy with whatever is available. I know it's a lot of hard work to translate and the smaller the fandom the smaller the likelihood of that to happen. But who knows? Maybe the fandom will grow/be revived again? He definitely definitely deserves it :') 

 

and how cool that we spoke on vlive!! Though I saw that our conversation has disappeared again but still nice to have met you there too^^

 

I've listened to some of Joo Won's OST songs already... you should have seen my face when I realized that he was the one singing the "proper" version of "If I Were" right after Shi On's while he's sitting on his balcony, looking at the moon. I was like "whaaaaaaat? Noooooo! He can sing too???? How is this fair?" lol. Something along those lines. I love his voice. It's so powerful in conveying emotion. Just like his acting. 

 

I'm planning to watch Yong Pal & Gaksital next. I might drop by here to gush over him if I need an outlet for all that JW love^^ please bear with me in case that happens :D

I'll stop here since this has already become another essay. I hope we can share in our Joo Won love frequently here and I'm so grateful to you guys for sharing your vast knowledge with this newbie fan :)

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2 hours ago, Calli said:

So, @kittynayou asked where I was from. I'm from Germany. K-drama found me about 5 years ago when it was still very much a sub culture in Germany. If it weren't for Netflix and the tons of k-dramas it made available in the last year, many people would have no idea what Hallyu is. Despite BTS. And I think most people in Germany still have no clue what Hallyu is to be honest but amongst young people, esp those on Twitter - which I think is the main social media platform where fangirling takes place - k-pop and k-drama is definitely a thing. Twitter is also how I became aware of K-world. And what a brand new, rich, amazing, sometimes upsetting world it turned out to be~

 

Germany? I don't think I've met someone here from there before - welcome to the club!

 

lol - I will confess, though, that my literal first reaction was to think, "Oh, crap - I better not have been messing this up in my fics, then!" :joy: 


Long story short: one of my favourite ways to explore and play around with JW's dramas is through fanfic, and that includes a whole sequel series to Nae Il's Cantabile where I imagine what Cha Yoo Jin and Seol Nae Il's lives might be like after relocating to Austria at the end of the drama. Problem is: I've never actually been to that part of Europe before (closest was Switzerland), so I was just relying on what I could piece together online :P I tried to make it culturally accurate and all, but if you do ever end up reading the fics (my series is titled Seolleim in Salzburg and links are available via my profile page or also via DM), I apologize in advance for any linguistic or cultural errors :foryou:

 

On 3/30/2021 at 2:41 PM, flutterby06 said:

@kireeti2and @kittyna hello. How are you guys? I've been no show for a long time. 

 

I've been fine as well :) I've been less active here than before, ever since I found out from the mods that posts here really have to be related to JW as an actor (i.e. stuff that's just about his drama characters don't count), so I've had a lot less to share or talk about.

 

This may potentially spell the end of my fanfics, too, unless I can figure out some sort of workaround. For example, like I just said to @Calli, I've also made Seolleim in Salzburg available as a DM link - it's up and active already, so let me know if you want it - but I still need to figure out what works best for potential future fics that aren't in a series.

 

On 3/31/2021 at 3:01 AM, flutterby06 said:

Honestly my instant reaction when I got the news of carter was this-

 

 

lol - That moment from Nae Il's Cantabile never gets old, especially when it's meme-ified like this.

 

But same here, actually. As great as news of Carter is, I find it hard to get excited for a Netflix movie when I don't have Netflix to begin with (and no, I'm not shilling out that amount of money just for one film, thanks for asking). So I'm just like, "That's awesome for him as an actor, and I hope it'll be a boost to his recognition worldwide - but I still want a drama, damn it!"

 

As for weighing Firefighter and Carter...both have their merits, but until I know more about what to expect from Carter other than its basic premise (which, incidentally, is currently making me think JW will end up as a Korean version of Jason Bourne), Firefighter seems to be the more intriguing story. Like, I like watching JW in action, but I think he can do so much more than just straight-up action - you know what I mean?

 

On 3/31/2021 at 3:01 AM, flutterby06 said:

To be honest I'm more excited about 'Firefighter' too.. because he gets to work with veterans and it's genre and story is based on real tragic incident.

 

By the way, you sent out a news article about the original accident that inspired Firefighter a while ago, but I lost track of the link - do you still have it? I've been trying to check something in the (admittedly blurry) behind-the-scenes photos fans have posted on Instagram, but I need the original source information to do that.

 

3 hours ago, Calli said:

What are the other 2 episodes? Have they never been subbed or translated? 

 

They were for King of Baking, Kim Tak Gu and Ojakgyo Brothers respectively, but I don't know if translated versions are still available online - they were ages ago, which is when I watched them, but I haven't tried to track down the links since.

 

3 hours ago, Calli said:

lol. Something along those lines. I love his voice. It's so powerful in conveying emotion. Just like his acting. 

 

Well, he'd have to be good at conveying emotions while singing, or how else would he have made it as a musical theatre actor? ;) 

 

And now for some Instagram goodies I never got around to sharing.

 

He looks, like, insanely tall in this drawing - like, what?

 

Cute chibi fanart 1

 

Cute chibi fanart 2

 

The "Introverted Dance" - lol I think I'm gonna have to start calling it that from now on :P But it's the added captions that are really cracking me up right now :lol:

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10 hours ago, Calli said:

 What are the other 2 episodes? Have they never been subbed or translated? 

Here's the link for Joo won's Happy together King of Baking Kim Tak Gu . It not complete episode but you can at least see

30 mins of the show. The episode is buried deep in the internet, I was able to download and watch the complete episode but the quality of the video was horrendous and had to delete it after that.

Here is the win win episode of Joo won as guest with his co star from King of Baking Kim Tak Gu

7 hours ago, kittyna said:

They were for King of Baking, Kim Tak Gu and Ojakgyo Brothers respectively, but I don't know if translated versions are still available online - they were ages ago, which is when I watched them, but I haven't tried to track down the links since.

In both of these episodes, joo won was able to show case his singing skills and his co-stars were like, "Yeah, Joo won sing well". And also, in the Ojakgyo episode Uee and Joo won said they would date each other if one them asked the other out in a rapid fire question.Also, we get to know that both Uee and Joo won went to same university, ans also, in this episode Uee said that during the shirt less scene, joo won and Yeon Woo jin did push-ups before the scene to get abs or at least that's what the translation said.

7 hours ago, kittyna said:

(which, incidentally, is currently making me think JW will end up as a Korean version of Jason Bourne)

Jason Bourne is different, it's like creating a super soldier with no moral or ethical values with some kind of brain surgery, and I heard that in Carter Joo won will be a secret agent and stuff like virus is also involved, so, the memory loss concept maybe same but no on the same story line

10 hours ago, Calli said:

While watching Alice I thought his is a face that I could look at forever without ever feeling "now, that's enough" :wub: he just became more and more beautiful the longer I looked at him and the more of his acting and real life personality I got to experience. I just think he's the whole package, beautiful inside out. 

Yeah, I think Alice drama did lot of fan service for Female fans :wink:

11 hours ago, Calli said:

I was like "whaaaaaaat? Noooooo! He can sing too????

My exact reactions after I found out that he could sing. I did not know that until I saw his performs of "Honey" song in Happy Together ep-116, his performance in special episode for Baking King Kim Tak Gu and his rap in Win-Win episode(the episode in which he did a guest appearance)

On 3/31/2021 at 12:31 PM, flutterby06 said:

Honestly my instant reaction when I got the news of carter was this-

 

Lol! Every interaction between Cha Yoo Jin and Nae-il is a potential meme material

11 hours ago, Calli said:

As far as me coming away from Good Doctor thinking Joo Won was "hot" goes (lol, I didn't think that's what needed to happen for the drama to become successful internationally tbh)

Yup, Joo won's performance was off the in Good Doctor, so, yeah, looks really didn't matter.

 

Here's the link for Joo won's Healing Camp episode

Here is the link for Ojagkyo drama's Happy together episode of 16 mins(but with Vietnamese subs). PS: The videos suggested in these sites have adult contents

 

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hello there lovely people, I really love coming on here and reading your posts. So much wealth of information. 

Dear @kittyna, sadly I'm no fan of fan fiction. I'm more of a "strictly canon" kind of girl so I never got into reading fan fiction despite having been a fangirl for a looong time. I'm sure though that you did a great job depicting Salzburg. And honestly, there were many grammatical errors in the tiny bit of German that was spoken on Naeil's Cantabile and it didn't bother me one bit. I was too busy admiring Joo Won's pronunciation cause that was anything but shabby^^  He did really well. 

 

Dear @kireeti2you're such a star for sharing all these links!! Thank you so so much. I'll check them out as soon as I'm back home. The guest appearance JW had with his fellow King of Baking star on Win Win I've actually seen subbed. Or at least part of it. I remember how cute it was that their drama mom had such a soft spot for JW and that he even sent her a pic from a pretty landscape just because it made him think of her. He's such a sweet human being and I love that he shows his affection so freely to the people he cares about. I wonder if he's still in touch with some of the people he worked with and grew so close with early on in his career. 

 

I'm personally really excited for Carter because 1) it must be an interesting script and character for JW to have agreed to it and 2) I'm hoping it will introduce him to a wider audience that will come to appreciate his acting skills. 

But I'm also still very much hoping we will get some drama news too... I don't know how feasible it is for him to do Carter and a drama within this year - if a script came along that he would deem worthwhile and he'd had enough time to rest in between and take good care of his health - I would really really welcome such news!! Having actor JW on our screens for at least 16 episodes in 2021 would make this year soooooo much better for me personally~ *fingerscrossed*

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1 hour ago, Calli said:

Dear @kittyna, sadly I'm no fan of fan fiction. I'm more of a "strictly canon" kind of girl so I never got into reading fan fiction despite having been a fangirl for a looong time. I'm sure though that you did a great job depicting Salzburg. And honestly, there were many grammatical errors in the tiny bit of German that was spoken on Naeil's Cantabile and it didn't bother me one bit. I was too busy admiring Joo Won's pronunciation cause that was anything but shabby^^  He did really well. 

 

Personally, even I have boundaries when it comes to things like fanfic. For instance, I'll only write stuff that's got to do with the drama characters themselves, because I think writing fics about real people (e.g. about JW himself) is kind of cringe-y. But I do like playing around with the characters and their stories, especially if it helps me to flesh them out and get a better appreciation for how they were written in the first place :) 

 

But I also know that "fanon" (i.e. fan versions of events and characters) isn't everyone's thing, and that's fine. Thanks for the encouraging words about trying to do places like Salzburg justice, though: I'm a big classical music nerd (even if I was never particularly good on the piano-playing side of things), so Germany and Austria have been on my bucket list for travel for years. lol - I'm not sure when (if ever) I'll get to go, but hey, at least now I have things like YouTube, Instagram, etc. to fill in that void for now ;) 

 

As for the language in Nae Il's Cantabile, yeah, we do have to give JW credit here. :) I've noticed from the little snippets in that drama that German pronunciation seems to be really challenging for Korean actors in general - probably because there are so many unfamiliar sounds in there. I did have to learn some German and Hebrew diction for vocal music purposes in the past, so, for example, I noticed that all of the actors murdered the "ch" (like in "Milch"), like, really badly :P But then I just imagine that the characters who would have nailed it (e.g. Stresemann and Yoo Jin) nailed it, and those who wouldn't (e.g. Nae Il) wouldn't, and I don't stress it too much.

 

12 hours ago, kireeti2 said:

My exact reactions after I found out that he could sing. I did not know that until I saw his performs of "Honey" song in Happy Together ep-116, his performance in special episode for Baking King Kim Tak Gu and his rap in Win-Win episode(the episode in which he did a guest appearance)

 

I remember I realized it when I came across the song he sang for the King of Baking, Kim Tak Gu OST:

 

 

lol - It's funny, because I actually remember not realizing how good he was a singer at first, but then I understood (after hearing his other songs), that I just happened to come across a recording with really crappy audio quality at the time, and I wasn't picking up on all the good things his voice had to offer :) 

 

My personal favourite out of his OST contributions, though, is "I Believe" from My Sassy Girl.

 

 

 

It's a cover (the original song was from the film of the same name), but I thought it really showcased the things that made his singing voice distinct: a generally warm tone, and the ability to just get really high (for a guy) and keep his tone both soft and steady once he's up there. Like, many guys can get up there, but they're either belting (like in the climax of a ballad), or it gets really airy. JW manages to maintain a really firm tone up there, though :) 

 

12 hours ago, kireeti2 said:

Also, we get to know that both Uee and Joo won went to same university, ans also, in this episode Uee said that during the shirt less scene, joo won and Yeon Woo jin did push-ups before the scene to get abs or at least that's what the translation said.

 

lol - I think it was just muscles, period: last I checked, push-ups don't do much for abs. But JW did appear to be rather self-conscious about his build back then: he was bigger during his musical theatre days, but lost a ton of weight by the time he started acting on TV, so he's noticeably underweight in both King of Baking, Kim Tak Gu and Ojakgyo Brothers. It was only from Gaksital onwards that he seemed to settle into a "look" that worked for him, as his appearance build/weight-wise stayed more or less the same up until his enlistment. Post-enlistment body builds are a whole other ball game, though.

 

1 hour ago, Calli said:

I'm personally really excited for Carter because 1) it must be an interesting script and character for JW to have agreed to it and 2) I'm hoping it will introduce him to a wider audience that will come to appreciate his acting skills. 

 

Well, JW does like to call the shots himself when it comes to which scripts he chooses. He doesn't always get his way, and sometimes he will concede and do whatever production his agency's pushing for, but most of his more successful dramas (e.g. Ojakgyo BrothersGaksitalGood DoctorAlice) are known to be ones he chose himself. And Yong Pal has the rather interesting distinction of being a unanimous choice: his agency pitched it to him first, and he was reluctant to pick up a second medical drama at first, but then immediately fell for the script and role once he saw it :) 

 

1 hour ago, Calli said:

The guest appearance JW had with his fellow King of Baking star on Win Win I've actually seen subbed. Or at least part of it. I remember how cute it was that their drama mom had such a soft spot for JW and that he even sent her a pic from a pretty landscape just because it made him think of her. He's such a sweet human being and I love that he shows his affection so freely to the people he cares about.

 

There was another TV talk show special that featured almost the entire main cast of King of Baking, Kim Tak Gu and there's this really cute moment when Jeon In Hwa (the actress who played JW's mother) teased him by calling him in that same tone her character used when scolding him. I'll try to see if the YouTube links are still available when I have time.

 

1 hour ago, Calli said:

But I'm also still very much hoping we will get some drama news too... I don't know how feasible it is for him to do Carter and a drama within this year - if a script came along that he would deem worthwhile and he'd had enough time to rest in between and take good care of his health - I would really really welcome such news!! Having actor JW on our screens for at least 16 episodes in 2021 would make this year soooooo much better for me personally~ *fingerscrossed*

 

I think if he's focusing on Carter now, any drama will have to be a latter half (summer or fall) drama. He's done films and dramas concurrently before (e.g. filming Good Doctor and Catch Me at the same time), but it's harder to do that when one's already signed and the other's not even picked yet.

 

By the way, I totally second @kireeti2's recommendation to check out the Healing Camp interview, because that's the one that really shows how far JW has come as a person since his debut. It's old in hindsight (2015), but he actually hasn't changed that much between then and now, whereas there's a noticeable difference in how self-assured and confident he was in 2015 compared to 2012 or 2013.

 

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Found that King of Baking special - it's still on YouTube! :partyblob:

 

I do want to preface this, though, by saying that this drama is 11 years old by this point, and general societal views in Korea have changed significantly over the past decade. So some of the comments the cast made about a scene where JW's character - Ma Jun - forced himself on the girl he liked were seen as fine then, but definitely wouldn't be now.

 

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3 hours ago, Calli said:

Win Win I've actually seen subbed. Or at least part of it. I remember how cute it was that their drama mom had such a soft spot for JW and that he even sent her a pic from a pretty landscape just because it made him think of her.

Not only his warmth, we get to his rapping skills also, I did not know that he could do that. Also, they looked like real mom and son, they were that close.

3 hours ago, Calli said:

He's such a sweet human being and I love that he shows his affection so freely to the people he cares about. I wonder if he's still in touch with some of the people he worked with and grew so close with early on in his career. 

Yeah, he does that, like he gets into skinship as soon  as he gets comfortable, especially with senior actors both male and female. Also, it might be hard for him to be in touch with his previous co-stars, but he does follow them on Instagram

3 hours ago, Calli said:

I'm personally really excited for Carter because 1) it must be an interesting script and character for JW to have agreed to it and 2) I'm hoping it will introduce him to a wider audience that will come to appreciate his acting skills. 

Also, it is his first Netflix debut, so, yeah, he will definitely get international exposure, if the movie is a hit, and then people will watch his other movies as well, he could get instant fame like "Brave Girl" group for "Rolli song", of course they did struggle to get due recognize and they totally desire the fame, and I think Joo won should get due recognition as well.

3 hours ago, Calli said:

Dear @kireeti2you're such a star for sharing all these links!! Thank you so so much. I'll check them out as soon as I'm back home.

Yeah, most the videos are in bits and pieces, and few links might have been removed, but do try it, who knows, you might get lucky.

2 hours ago, kittyna said:

I'm a big classical music nerd

Yup, @Calli you will end learning lot about Classical Music stuff, she went into such detail that for a second you'll its a fan fiction and start to feel like you are reading about Classical Music history   :tongue:

2 hours ago, kittyna said:

Ma Jun - forced himself on the girl he liked were seen as fine then, but definitely wouldn't be now.

Yeah, back then if second lead was a***hole first lead was nice and vice versa

 

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2 hours ago, kireeti2 said:

Looks like Joo won attended his friends wedding. It's good that he is spending time with his loved ones, it'll definitely relieve his stress

 

Aw...that's cute! Thanks for sharing :) lol - I especially love the first pic, where JW's with a little kid :fullofhearts:

 

20 hours ago, kireeti2 said:

Yup, @Calli you will end learning lot about Classical Music stuff, she went into such detail that for a second you'll its a fan fiction and start to feel like you are reading about Classical Music history   :tongue:

 

lol - Nothing quite so extensive as that! I just drew inspiration from a few composers' lives and stories for my own fics: that of Mozart and his father (for Cha Yoo Jin and his), and that of Robert and Clara Schumann (for Yoo Jin and Nae Il). 

 

20 hours ago, kireeti2 said:
22 hours ago, kittyna said:

Ma Jun - forced himself on the girl he liked were seen as fine then, but definitely wouldn't be now.

Yeah, back then if second lead was a***hole first lead was nice and vice versa

 

I was more referring to how people thought such a scene was hot back then - with even Eugene saying that she liked that scene. I guess it's fine because it's acting and consensual on all sides, but at the same time, I was genuinely baffled by people liking that kiss. And, in JW's defence, while we'll never know what he thought for sure, from his expression, he seemed just as confused as I was: when I rewatched that footage from the TV special I linked to, he's smiling and nodding along, but there's just ever so slight a of an awkward "Wait, wha...???" feel to his reaction as well. Not to mention that he himself said he thought Yoon Si Yoon's kiss scene (the one being compared with his) was better, since it was actually based on a loving relationship between the characters.

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Thanks for sharing that link @kireeti2So nice to see Joo Won today at a friend's (I assume?) wedding. I hope he enjoyed himself. He even sang "If I Were" for the happy couple - so so lucky. 

 

I'm not trained in any way when it comes to singing but I completely agree with your assessment on the strengths and beauty of JW's voice @kittyna He has so much power and stamina on the high notes, it's so impressive. When he's up there it seems so effortless... and I know you'll tell me again that since he's a musical actor that that's a given, but I'm always very moved by how much emotion he can convey through his singing, and how he can sing the same song in so many different ways depending on what emotion he wants to convey (or possibly how he might be feeling that particular moment). I always come away from his singing - and his acting - feeling he puts everything he has and is into them. I guess that's a huge reason why he's taken my heart by storm :wub:

 

And thank you SO SO much for finding that Baking King special with English subs on YouTube, @kittyna. I dont think I would have ever found it by myself. I'll probably watch it today^^

 

I've already watched his Healing Camp appearance from 2015 (I had mentioned it in one of my posts but only in parenthesis) and I loved every minute of it. It gave me some truly wonderful insight into the man he was/is. 

 

What you wrote about his personal choices when it comes to his projects was really really interesting, @kittyna. It definitely seems like he has a very good sense and good judgement when it comes to picking his roles and projects. So were there any where it's known he was reluctant to do them but did them anyway because his agency asked him to? 

 

How likely do you guys think it is that he'll do a drama in 2021? I've kinda fallen into the habit of checking never & soompi daily in the hope of seeing some happy JW news~

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On 4/1/2021 at 7:26 PM, Calli said:

I've listened to some of Joo Won's OST songs already... you should have seen my face when I realized that he was the one singing the "proper" version of "If I Were" right after Shi On's while he's sitting on his balcony, looking at the moon. I was like "whaaaaaaat? Noooooo! He can sing too???? How is this fair?" lol. Something along those lines. I love his voice. It's so powerful in conveying emotion. Just like his acting. 

 

 

So far YT has lots of comments like "It's Joo Won singing?' 'He can sing too along with awesome acting." "Honestly he should make an album." So I think fans usually have similar reaction. But I think forgot my initial reaction to his singing. But I'm always looking forward to his singing, his singing changes according to situations.. The whole fandom is actually.

 

Like fandom is rejoicing today at his 'If I were' this is actually covered song by JW originally it was sang by another singer. JW has sang it many times after that specially in fan meetings but it never gets old. 

 

On 4/1/2021 at 11:17 PM, kittyna said:

By the way, you sent out a news article about the original accident that inspired Firefighter a while ago, but I lost track of the link - do you still have it? I've been trying to check something in the (admittedly blurry) behind-the-scenes photos fans have posted on Instagram, but I need the original source information to do that.

 

Here's the news link:

https://koreajoongangdaily.joins.com/section/business

 

On 4/2/2021 at 6:40 PM, kittyna said:

I do want to preface this, though, by saying that this drama is 11 years old by this point, and general societal views in Korea have changed significantly over the past decade. So some of the comments the cast made about a scene where JW's character - Ma Jun - forced himself on the girl he liked were seen as fine then, but definitely wouldn't be now.

 

Also I would like to add JW himself thought it was not a ideal kiss scene because it was done without permission. 

 

But yeah....as a makjang drama Baker King had quite some issues. But it also was a well made drama that was able to caught half of a nation. And as far as I know it's the last drama that got 50% viewership rating in Korea.

 

I saw you guys were talking about Joo Won starting as a second lead in his career but honestly his character was significant volume that was probably also the reason why the writer of the drama was so adamant on casting Joo Won despite productions over all negative response to JW. And because the role was significant the production may be also wanted a known face so the character can hold it's ground. If you see Baker King Majun actually has lot of presence be it mostly negative also he is the one who gets the main girl and later tries to start his life anew. When I first saw Baker King it was probably my second JW drama, I wasn't a fan then. So I was really surprised seeing how the antagonistic guy actually has a loveline even though messed up  and he actually got the girl and they actually had a better looking ending than Takgu Misun if you ask me. It's just my opinion tho.

 

But when I first watched Baker King I really couldn't understand why Yu Kyung would choose Majun over Takgu.. not at all. Why would disregard innocent happiness over revenge. But when I watched it second time I understood her mindset a bit but still a  messed up choice nonetheless.

 

About his popularity as all of you were talking about it.

 

I would like to mention that JW actually received Netizen Award which is equivalent to popularity in Gaksital (2012), Good doctor(2013), Tomorrow Cantabile (2014), Youg Pal (Chinese Popularity Award), Also and influential award from China. Here note even tho TC is a low rated drama he got popularity award and along with Ji Chang Wook who got it from healer which actually had rating as well as international popularity. But JW still got popularity award that year because he was still popular among general viewers tho TC didn't get that rating.

 

His visible popularity only got lowered when his took a some what break from Korean drama. He was absent in drama world for nearly 1.5 years. And with his upcoming enlistment his active fanbase got shorter.

 

Another thing @kittyna mentioned that I agree with JW's fanbase overall is like him, not so socially active. I have been a fan since 2014 but I only joined in soompi and twitter to show my support was when I saw JW was going for military 2017.I felt so sad thinking I would've to go on 2 years without JW drama. While I was sad to see his his fanbase as a whole being sleepy but  I'm glad I joined because otherwise I would have missed the fun staff that happened in JW army life.

 

2 hours ago, Calli said:

How likely do you guys think it is that he'll do a drama in 2021? I've kinda fallen into the habit of checking never & soompi daily in the hope of seeing some happy JW news

 

If it was normal time I'd say JW would keep a drama for second half of 2021 because Joo Won knows very well his fans are always looking forward to it. But due to covid time is different now and there're some factors needs to be considered-

 

1)Carter plans to be released this year. I don't know how long Netflix projects takes time to complete a movie shoot but I've heard drama shoots are usually done faster. If it still holds true for Carter. I think we can hope for a drama.

 

2) He said in his Goodbye Alice vlive that with covid the work of production got very difficult and lengthy. Because now they had to ask special permission to the authority or owner of place weather they can shoot in any particular place and if they're rejected from somewhere their team has too look for another replacement location again so things gets delayed than usual. Considering this in mind who knows if it will fit his schedule after he's done with carter schedule.

 

But honesty I wish his agency tries to manages things well so he can do Carter safe and soundly and pick a drama for 2021. We're talking about new drama since he joined Musical GHOST second season.  

 

And lastly I would like to mention...so happy.. JW has appeared today-more like thankful that his friend got married otherwise the wait would probably longer.. Everyone was saying how he is living on cave/dungeon etc.

 

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Also I'm kind of glad to see another familiar face (well masked face), Lee Sewook (first one in the right). I think last time we saw him with JW was when some of their friends went on outing on a sunny day after JW was back from army. As Sewook is JW's best friend since school I guess it's a wedding of school friend too. Loved to see JW all smiley and hyper among friends. The picture that JW had with a kid was so nice too.

 

A fun doodle that showed how wide JW spread his legs in excitement and his excited peace/v sign that got cut out in the picture frame.:lol:

 

 

And the one of the guest who shared the 'If I Were' song was the friend of the Bride while JW is friend of the Groom. The friend said in the caption-

 

"Thanks to Unni I got to listen Joowon-nims song today, I got lucky. I was surprised seeing it in person. I thought celebrities are indeed celebrities."

 

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4 hours ago, flutterby06 said:

I would like to mention that JW actually received Netizen Award which is equivalent to popularity in Gaksital (2012), Good doctor(2013), Tomorrow Cantabile (2014), Youg Pal (Chinese Popularity Award), Also and influential award from China. Here note even tho TC is a low rated drama he got popularity award and along with Ji Chang Wook who got it from healer which actually had rating as well as international popularity. But JW still got popularity award that year because he was still popular among general viewers tho TC didn't get that rating.

 

His visible popularity only got lowered when his took a some what break from Korean drama. He was absent in drama world for nearly 1.5 years. And with his upcoming enlistment his active fanbase got shorter.

To be honest @flutterby06, when I started researching Joo Won and saw how many popularity awards he had gotten in the past (all the ones you mentioned), I expected him to have a huge fanbase. That's partly why I was so surprised to find that he didn't and then @kittynaand @kireeti2offered me some insight as to why. 

I wasn't aware he was away for a whole 1 1/2 years from the Korean drama scene. That must have been the time he did that Chinese drama that hasn't been released yet? Was that his own choice or was that something his agency wanted for him? 

But even knowing that he was away for that period of time, I would still expect him to have a bigger fanbase than he does... because he deserves that so much. Though like you guys mentioned, his acting is always lauded by audience and critics alike and that is something truly meaningful and I think with his talent and hardworking spirit he'll be an actor who'll be around (and loved) for a long, long, long time. 

 

I'm keeping my fingers (and toes) crossed that that 2021 Joo Won drama we're all hoping for will really happen!! 

 

 

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2 hours ago, Calli said:

I wasn't aware he was away for a whole 1 1/2 years from the Korean drama scene. That must have been the time he did that Chinese drama that hasn't been released yet? Was that his own choice or was that something his agency wanted for him? 

 

There were a ton of factors involved: filming Love Express (i.e. the Chinese drama) was one of them, but so was the really long behind-the-scenes process for My Sassy Girl and confusion concerning when he would enlist.

 

Because I started paying attention to news about JW in 2016, I do have some memory of how it all went down, but I was really new to things (and wasn't aware of this forum yet either), so I don't know how clear a picture I actually have. So, @flutterby06, please correct me if I get any of this wrong.

 

After JW did Yong Pal in 2015, word started to spread in the spring of 2016 that JW would enlist soon, with one final drama (My Sassy Girl) being filmed before then. Estimates then were that he would enlist sometime in the fall of 2016, if I recall correctly, as a commissioned police officer.

 

Of course, that's clearly not what happened - and again, there were a couple of reasons why. I'm not sure which reason happened first or which was more important - since obviously, that's JW's own personal business, plus they were both unfolding at the same time - but here's what I do remember.

 

1. My Sassy Girl took way longer to get going than had originally been anticipated. This drama was going to be his agency's own production (SIM Entertainment had recently been acquired and became Huayi Brothers at this point), and there were plans to host open auditions for the female lead. JW was actively involved in that audition process: meeting with the finalists himself, and also having some say in the voting (as did the drama's producers and the general public). By June 2016, they'd had a winner and filming should technically have started right away. BUT! At around the same time, a huge rift developed between China and South Korea over the THAAD radar system (an American-run anti-missile system that China claimed was placed too close to its own borders), so a general halt was put to any joint Korean-Chinese productions at the time. I don't know for sure, but there's some speculation that in addition to Love ExpressMy Sassy Girl may have been one of the dramas impacted due to Chinese investors pulling out, since next thing we know, the newly-cast lead actress quit under mysterious circumstances, and production was delayed until the role could be re-cast.

 

Note that by this point (Fall 2016), it was getting pretty obviously clear that JW wasn't enlisting anytime soon despite rumours from back in the spring, and this is where the second factor in his long absence from dramaland comes in.

 

2. JW changed his own enlistment terms. Again, I don't know all the internal details or the reasons why (because that's his own business), but what happened was that the Fall 2016 enlistment date would have been if JW accepted the commissioned police officer post he'd originally applied for and received. But then, in September 2016, we received a bombshell: JW had retracted his initial enlistment back in the summer and applied a second time to serve as an active duty soldier.

 

By the time all that got sorted out, the actual enlistment was set for the spring of 2017, with My Sassy Girl filming happening during the fall/winter of 2016 and into early 2017. And that's how a single drama wound up taking almost a year-and-a-half to make - and by the time filming finished on it, JW was off on his enlistment, so that's all we had dramas-wise until Alice.

 

7 hours ago, flutterby06 said:

2) He said in his Goodbye Alice vlive that with covid the work of production got very difficult and lengthy. Because now they had to ask special permission to the authority or owner of place weather they can shoot in any particular place and if they're rejected from somewhere their team has too look for another replacement location again so things gets delayed than usual. Considering this in mind who knows if it will fit his schedule after he's done with carter schedule.

 

Quite honestly, given that we are still in the middle of a global pandemic and film and TV sets are really not conducive for any sort of social distancing measures, I'm sometimes surprised that dramas or films are even being made at all right now. So issues like capacity limits (e.g. places that would have allowed shooting now being unable to due to numbers), or that one time when an outbreak spread through multiple production sets via the staff...I don't blame JW or his agency if they decide to just take one project at a time for now.

 

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Getting to replying to some things from the previous page....

 

  

9 hours ago, Calli said:

I'm not trained in any way when it comes to singing but I completely agree with your assessment on the strengths and beauty of JW's voice @kittyna He has so much power and stamina on the high notes, it's so impressive. When he's up there it seems so effortless... and I know you'll tell me again that since he's a musical actor that that's a given, but I'm always very moved by how much emotion he can convey through his singing, and how he can sing the same song in so many different ways depending on what emotion he wants to convey (or possibly how he might be feeling that particular moment).

 

I do think at least some of this is because of JW's own voice, actually. Since there are a number of musical theatre actors who also end up doing dramas and who end up singing OST tracks, but JW's voice is still distinct among them.

 

For example, I think JW's range is a tad high compared to most musical theatre actors, so in a purely musical theatre context, although he's a tenor, he actually struggles with some really classic tenor-range songs that start off low. So, for instance, if you ever listen to him cover "This Is the Moment" (which is the quintessential tenor ballad among Korean musical theatre fans), his opening's actually bit shaky because he has a hard time starting down there. It takes almost a whole minute for the song to move into his comfortable range, and that's immediately noticeable if you listen closely.

 

But that also means he's got an edge over a number of his fellow musical theatre actors when it comes to the higher notes: his tone is not only strong, but, like, extremely resonant at that range. Like, almost to the point where using a microphone might be overkill (especially if you're wearing earbuds :P).

 

9 hours ago, Calli said:

What you wrote about his personal choices when it comes to his projects was really really interesting, @kittyna. It definitely seems like he has a very good sense and good judgement when it comes to picking his roles and projects. So were there any where it's known he was reluctant to do them but did them anyway because his agency asked him to? 

 

I don't think we'll ever know if JW was actually reluctant to take on any project, but it's generally assumed among his fans that his lighter rom-com roles were agency picks. So, productions like Nae Il's Cantabile or My Sassy Girl, for example. There's been some speculation among fans for a while that it's because JW's agency doesn't really have that sort of big name teen heart throb Hallyu star yet, so JW's been their best bet on that front for years - the problem is that that's clearly not his strongest suit either, so attempts to make him into that rom-com Hallyu star have never succeeded. :P 

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11 hours ago, Calli said:

wasn't aware he was away for a whole 1 1/2 years from the Korean drama scene. That must have been the time he did that Chinese drama that hasn't been released yet? Was that his own choice or was that something his agency wanted for him? 

But even knowing that he was away for that period of time, I would still expect him to have a bigger fanbase than he does... because he deserves that so much. Though like you guys mentioned, his acting is always lauded by audience and critics alike and that is something truly meaningful and I think with his talent and hardworking spirit he'll be an actor who'll be around (and loved) for a long, long, long time. 

 

Can't say precisely whose decision was it. But JW's agency was somewhat affiliated with China at that time. If I'm not wrong his agency become from SIM Entertainment to Huayi Brother when there was a major change in shareholding or something because Huayi Brother is is a China company. His KDrama My Sassy Girl also had Chinese investors but they later pulled out from this project because of China ban on Korean project.

So can't tell who was the decision maker but I just think there's enough influence. Sometimes I think both give in to each other time to time. Because JW doing a 6 months long Musical at the time of covid isn't really an ideal situation for his agency but he still gets to do that. I think they knows what Joo Won wants to do and values it and that's what he's sticking with it also because they're like a family to him, him being there since the beginning for 11 years now.

 

Why I'm saying JW doing Musical isn't ideal situation is because Musical/stage plays don't make as much as money than movie/photoshoots, CFS does. It also isn't highly coveted by media. Though these days it gets somewhat media exposure. I another actor whose work I usually try to follow- Lee Sang Yoon. He recently did one of his first major stage play. He was asked if he'd like to continue. He said he'd like to do at least one play in a year. And the interviewer mentioned "your agency would not be very happy about it, would they!" LSY laughed and said "I will work hard, do what agency gives me and do stage play as well."  So what the idea I get from it is that frequent musical/stage plays isn't favourable to agencies unless the agency is dedicated in that genre.

 

And like @kittyna was saying JW is the only heartthrob in his agency, they had some veteran actor and actress and some talented young actress but not really a heartthrob like Joo Won. So in a way they depend on him a lot.

 

And I really can't pin point a reason for him facing small fanbase but yeah let's hope he will be around and be loved for a long long time because that's what he wants. He first wants to be recognized as a an actor who'll make you depend on him rather than celebrity. 

 

9 hours ago, kittyna said:

Because I started paying attention to news about JW in 2016, I do have some memory of how it all went down, but I was really new to things (and wasn't aware of this forum yet either), so I don't know how clear a picture I actually have. So, @flutterby06, please correct me if I get any of this wrong

 

You're probably right because I actually didn't notice much on his enlistment process except that there was news every now and then about him going to be enlisted. And even if it's delayed I'm so damn glad that JW went for active military service. Because Korea seems to take it bad when a celebrity take police unit. And they colorful life he spend in army- being army instructor in white skull- being featured in army magazine- being MC and performer in two army fest (correct me if I'm wrong I think he's the only celebrity so far who had been MC in 2 army fest). So far it's one of the best decision he has taken considering how enlistment is a sensetive issue to Korea.

 

Hey... Joo Won showed up on people's IG today. Looking very handsome.

 

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12 hours ago, Calli said:

I wasn't aware he was away for a whole 1 1/2 years from the Korean drama scene. That must have been the time he did that Chinese drama that hasn't been released yet? Was that his own choice or was that something his agency wanted for him? 

Not just drama, he was also part of movie "Sweet Sixteen"(apparently this movie is based on popular novel in china), he was villain that movie and did a great job than he did for "Gu Ma Jun" character,which shows that he improved a lot as an antagonist. So, yeah, he was unlucky when it came to drama, by the time his drama was done, tensions between China and South Korea were high and Chinese authorities sort of banned Korean dramas and movies and also Chinese drama in which Korean actor/actress were part of, so, we can say that between 2016 to 2017 he sort of lost one year and even one year is valuable for a actor like joo won who is in competitive ecosystem. If his agency did made him do a Chinese drama, he could have done a Korean drama, as his popularity soared due to Yong Pal success, it would have been good boost to his career and popularity

2 hours ago, flutterby06 said:

Why I'm saying JW doing Musical isn't ideal situation is because Musical/stage plays don't make as much as money than movie/photoshoots, CFS does. It also isn't highly coveted by media. Though these days it gets somewhat media exposure. I like another actor- Lee Sang Yoon. He recently did one of his first major stage play. He was asked if he'd like to continue. He said he'd like to do at least one play in a year. And the interviewer mentioned "your agency would not be very happy about it, would they!" LSY laughed and said "I will work hard, do what agency gives me and do stage play as well."  So what the idea I get from it is that frequent musical/stage plays isn't favourable to agencies unless the agency is dedicated in that genre.

You are right, when it comes to money and fame, musical is not ideal for any artist, but, I think lot of artist do it out of passion, just like Joo won, so, they are in it improve their acting skills and love for musical. Also, lot of musical artist are now successful actors, like, Kang Ha-neul who was not only musical actor but also junior to Joo won, so, I think actors like to perform musical to improve their acting skills as well, like, it is common knowledge that Musical artist fair well in dramas and movies when compared to K-pop artist(no offense to them)

2 hours ago, flutterby06 said:

You're probably right because I actually didn't notice much on his enlistment process except that there was news every now and then about him going to be enlisted. And even if it's delayed I'm so damn glad that JW went for active military service. Because Korea seems to take it bad when a celebrity take police unit. And they colorful life he spend in army- being army instructor in white skull- being featured in army magazine- being MC and performer in two army fest (correct me if I'm wrong I think he's the only celebrity so far who had been MC in 2 army fest). So far it's one of the best decision he has taken considering how enlistment is a sensetive issue to Korea.

Also, he made lot good friends. Maybe that's why he choose army over police service.

 

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