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30 minutes ago, kittyna said:

kept trying to get some dirt on JW, but wound up coming away from the interview going, "Who the hell is this kid??? I can't get anything!" 

I didn't get to see the whole episode of Win Win, but I was able to see the second half, like the MCs were literally face-palming by the answers of Joo won. And if I remember correctly, Director Bird was on the set too, and he sort of ran away when he was called on the set.:joy:

36 minutes ago, kittyna said:

and we do see him smiling when he was preschool-to-kindergarten-aged - Episodes 7 and 1, respectively)

I don't recall seeing young JG smiling, but I do see he was excited or at least showed expressions which conveys that he was  happy  spending time with his mom.

39 minutes ago, kittyna said:

also think it's because JW's known for having this really intense, penetrating stare - at least I recall that was the hosts' first impression of him on Healing Camp, while the hosts on Win Win said that he "looked like a bad boy".

I recall one of the lady in audience saying that his expressions looked cold in nature, so, yeah people get him wrong if they meet him for the first time.

 

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This might be a bit ambitious, but since I sense that it's really hard to find that episode of Taxi anymore, I'm going to attempt to do a recap here.

 

(At the time, I actually downloaded it to my computer instead of watching it online. If that went against Joo Won Cuties' rules, please forgive me - but in hindsight, this might be the only way to access it now, so...all good?)

 

I'm gonna try to go into detail so that you'll get a sense of what happened even if you can't find the video anymore. So sit back and enjoy the ride!

 

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1. The MCs (Kim Gu Ra and Hong Eun Hee) meet up with JW. He admits to having a packed schedule on that day, having just come from an MBC radio interview about Catch Me. (Note: you will continue to see confusion as to what exactly he's meant to promote here - GhostCatch Me, or Good Doctor. Although Good Doctor was already finished by this point, it was still the big thing JW was known for, so tons of references to it appear in this episode.)

 

2. Kim Gu Ra, ever the senior variety talk show host, tries to bring up a rumour that JW wasn't happy with him for some reason. JW clarifies that he actually had nothing against Gu Ra; instead, what happened was that Gu Ra had interviewed Choi Kang Hee during Level 7 Civil Servant, and some of the questions involved their "loveline" (I presume the real-life one rather than the fictional one), so Kang Hee panicked and told JW about the interview because she was worried he'd end up in a "scandal". Gu Ra defends himself, saying he was only asking what the viewers would want to know about, but JW gets his payback now by teasing him about the incident.

 

3. The MCs ask JW if he feels fatigued having so many things at once. JW says that he isn't particularly tired, but admits that he jumped straight into Ghost rehearsals right after finishing filming for Good Doctor. (Jump ahead to 2020, and we see the exact same thing happening with Alice.) JW adds that he's always energized when he's working or on set, but that he would fall asleep in the car. Gu Ra points out that that's true for him as well, so the two guys do finally end up bonding over something ;) 

 

4. JW shares anecdotes from Good Doctor filming, especially about how frequently he would mess up his lines and then kick himself afterwards, much to the amusement of the MCs. Kim Gu Ra then says (rightly or falsely, I don't know) that he hadn't watched Good Doctor yet, and asks JW to greet the viewers in Park Si On's voice. Cue tons of squeeing from Hong Eun Hee, and a deal with Kim Gu Ra that for every time that JW says something in Si On's voice, he'll shorten the amount of time they spend filming (thus allowing the shoot to wrap up earlier and giving JW a precious break). 

 

5. The first such task: a rather cringeworthy (for JW's modest nature, anyway) scripted summary of his projects thus far. I say "cringeworthy" because it literally starts with, "In 2013, no-one could surpass me!" The rest goes well, though, with JW switching back and forth between his normal voice and Si On voice (thus earning a few more minutes off the shoot).

 

6. Discussion shifts to his track record for getting high ratings - while talking about Ojakgyo Brothers, JW corrects Kim Gu Ra when he accidentally credits the wrong actor for playing the dad. Generally, the MCs commend JW for making a smart decision by choosing to do a weekend drama (Ojakgyo Brothers) and a variety show (1N2D) early in his career, as that would allow him to be visible to audiences over an extended period of time. They point out that many up-and-coming actors think that just achieving popularity through a hit mini-series (i.e. your typical 16-20 episode drama) is enough when it really isn't.

 

7. They chat about Catch Me for a bit, focusing on JW's reputation for skinship with noona and hyung actors. JW admits that some of the hyungs from 1N2D were weirded out at first, and the MCs say that JW should meet up with Lee Jong Suk (who's also known for off-screen aegyo and skinship), just to see what happens. :D 

 

8. Since JW played criminal profilers in both Catch Me and Special Investigations Unit, just for fun, the hosts ask JW to do a mock-reading/psychoanalysis of Kim Gu Ra (with Hong Eun Hee in particular wanting to know why Gu Ra is so vicious in interviews). JW's answer: Gu Ra was bullied a lot at school, and taught himself to strike first. Gu Ra's response: "It would be great if I had a story like that" (i.e. he wasn't bullied; he's just like this).

 

9. It starts snowing, so Hong Eun Hee (who's driving) asks JW what he tends to think of when he sees snow. JW shares about his high school experiences, spending time at school even during the Christmas holidays because he volunteered to be his school's stage manager and needed to be there for opening/closing whenever other students had rehearsals. Kim Gu Ra then asks teasingly if JW ever snuck in with a girlfriend back then, but JW just says that he'd play hide and seek with his friends - which prompts the hosts to tease him about his innocence once again. :P 

 

10. They finally(!) get to Ghost, and after some bickering between Kim Gu Ra and Hong Eun Hee about the original film version (with JW just awkwardly smiling in the back seat :P), they ask him to sing "Unchained Melody" - which JW does, cleverly singing "Eun Hee" in place of "Molly".

 

11. The MCs ask JW if he'd be interested in doing variety shows again, but he declines. He explains that while he enjoyed actually being on 1N2D itself, his tendency to stay on the sidelines meant that he got negative feedback from viewers (he mentions specifically comments like, "Why is he still here?" - so, pretty toxic stuff). Gu Ra tries to encourage him to look on the bright side: at least he enjoyed his time on the show and came away with mostly happy memories.

 

12. The MCs ask JW about his finances - he says that he gives his earnings to his parents and just takes a small allowance, which he also never completely uses up. They also ask about relationships (since, according to the MCs, JW might not spend much money when he's single, but that'd probably change if he's dating), and he says that he's reluctant to date when he can't comfortably do so in public. Even with co-stars (they use Moon Chae Won as an example because of Good Doctor), JW says that it's hard to really get to know a person on the inside after just a few months of filming, and that he feels bad for his co-stars when any little thing he says about them (mostly sincere compliments about what they're like as people) gets construed into a dating rumour by the press. Even though he tries to be casual and laugh it off, you can hear that after the sixth/seventh time in a row (since he was now being asked about Kim Ah Joong and IVY), he was definitely getting sick of it - but that still doesn't stop him from gushing about Moon Chae Won and Choi Kang Hee all the same. :P 

 

13. The next question, obviously, is about JW's ideal type. It's the same sort of answer as always - someone who's kind, who doesn't play "push and pull," who always treats their elders with respect, etc. - but JW does joke that he knows this makes him sound old-fashioned. About respecting elders in particular, JW also says that he's had a few false starts this way: he'd start thinking he likes a girl, only to hear her say scolding her elders, at which point he loses interest.

 

14. The MCs also ask JW about his pre-debut relationships, and he says that he's still in touch with his first girlfriend, but only because they were high school classmates and would run into each other at reunions, get-togethers with mutual friends, etc. They try to ask whether he would still harbor feelings for her, but he says he doesn't - at which point Kim Gu Ra teases JW for being passive and says that he needs more courage. JW retorts that he does have courage: he has courage in being so direct about what he thinks about love. He then shares the same story that you'd know from Win Win (about confiding to his mom about how he worried he'd change and his mom said that that was just a part of growing up).

 

15. The MCs and JW chat a bit about his style of answering questions so far - that he tends to stay pretty calm throughout without getting particularly excited or upset - and then they shift to hobbies. JW lists his favourite sports, which he plays with family and neighbours. So they ask about his family: JW explains that his father and hyung run a seafood import/export business together, and that he's always been close with his hyung. Hong Eun Hee asks if his sister-in-law ever tried to set him up on a blind date, but JW answers that he's not one for blind dates - he'd rather just get to know people naturally.

 

16. The MCs ask about JW's thoughts on marriage. There's this really cute bit where JW tries to bring up The Notebook, but then neither of the hosts have ever heard of it and JW's all, "What? You don't know it? It's my favourite." (Okay, that's clearly changed, but this in 2013, remember?). Once that's sorted out, JW says that he found the way the main couple in the movie would hug (i.e. the girl running and jumping into the guy's arms) really romantic and that he'd love to try that someday. This is also when he goes into his whole imagined day in his life after marriage: being all cutesy and lovey-dovey with his wife first thing in the morning before going to work as an acting professor. The MCs hilariously start bickering with each other whether JW should actually kiss his wife first thing in the morning (Eun Hee says no, Gu Ra says yes). JW's also asked about some advice he got from Cha Tae Hyun about married life (namely: there will be 99 things you'll like about your partner, and 1 thing you won't, and that 1 thing will overshadow the other 99), but he says he doesn't believe he'll end up thinking that - and also points out that Yoo Hae Jin vouches for him. (This is a good time to point out, though, that both JW and Hae Jin are bachelors, while Tae Hyun married his high school sweetheart, so....)

 

17. Given all this talk from JW about loving those cute romantic hugs and kisses, well, talk naturally shifts to all the other things that happen in the bedroom (Kim Gu Ra being provocative as always). JW says that he's not interested in doing a "bed scene" in a drama or film anytime soon because he's not confident about acting while showing his body at the same time. With Alice now, we know that that feeling is still there, even with a shower scene (but I think he did have a "bed scene" in Sweet Sixteen, so that point's changed). He also mentions that he sleeps fully clothed (he says "sweats" specifically), at which point Kim Gu Ra is like, "Yeah, that'll change once you're married."

 

18. The MCs finally conclude that JW's a good kid (Hong Eun Hee says she wants a son like him) who's got what it takes to have a long-lasting career as an actor, but that he's not quite aggressive or assertive enough in real life :P They also comment on JW's many acting awards, saying that he's only got a Daesang left to have gotten every single tier in terms of acting awards. And, well, we all know what happened there ;) 

 

22 hours ago, kireeti2 said:

I don't recall seeing young JG smiling, but I do see he was excited or at least showed expressions which conveys that he was  happy  spending time with his mom.

 

Not a big smile, but I think I did see something like a smile when he showed his mom the dragonfly (before promptly pulling so hard on its wing that it comes off, but still).

 

As for baby-Jin Gyeom (i.e. the one in the amusement park), he's not smiling, but he definitely looks happy: he's like the sort of baby who doesn't cry, but just looks at everything in wide-eyed curiosity (lol - my parents say that I was like that, too). He also seems to like the ice cream and then Tae Yi's balloon well enough.

 

22 hours ago, kireeti2 said:

I recall one of the lady in audience saying that his expressions looked cold in nature, so, yeah people get him wrong if they meet him for the first time.

 

Yeah. And then he smiles, and it's all, "Aww...so cute!!!"

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9 hours ago, kittyna said:

Hong Eun Hee says she wants a son like him

He always gets Son-zoned with Noonas :joy:( Too cute for Noonas , too childish for his age group and too strict for younger group)

 

9 hours ago, kittyna said:

lol - my parents say that I was like that, too)

Lol! You must have been one hell of a curious kid, my parents only remember about me is eating sand while playing when I was a kid :P

9 hours ago, kittyna said:

I'm gonna try to go into detail so that you'll get a sense of what happened even if you can't find the video anymore. So sit back and enjoy the ride!

Thanks for explaining the whole episode in detail. It was like almost watching the episode:thumbsup: But, yeah Joo won's talk shows are similar, like his answers never changes according to MC or the show. I think about marriage advice by Cha Tae Yun was only mentioned in "Global Request" musical talk show, it was also for promoting Ghost. And joo won is in similar situation like in 2013, completed a drama, a movie and doing a musical.

And also he mentioned about patrolling in nights when he was in the army, like he use to catch his juniors for breaking curfew and scold them, his eyes instantly changes like from normal person's eyes to aggressive one  and the show runners particular highlight that one,and he also said that he use to take patrolling duty because he gets bored at night since he has been shooting dramas till late nights, so he couldn't sleep. And also, when his juniors ask him about career advice they usually end up yawing whenever he gives them advice in detail :joy:, MC called him a boring counselor

Episode 4 bts

 

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9 hours ago, kireeti2 said:

He always gets Son-zoned with Noonas :joy:( Too cute for Noonas , too childish for his age group and too strict for younger group)

 

Oof...the way you put it like that, it's like he just can't win :lol:

 

9 hours ago, kireeti2 said:

Lol! You must have been one hell of a curious kid, my parents only remember about me is eating sand while playing when I was a kid :P

 

Yeah, I was the one who was always wandering off because I saw something I wanted to look at. But I wasn't mischievous, either - so if I did come up to a barrier or something, I'd just stop rather than try to climb over.  :P 

 

9 hours ago, kireeti2 said:

And also he mentioned about patrolling in nights when he was in the army, like he use to catch his juniors for breaking curfew and scold them, his eyes instantly changes like from normal person's eyes to aggressive one  and the show runners particular highlight that one,and he also said that he use to take patrolling duty because he gets bored at night since he has been shooting dramas till late nights, so he couldn't sleep. And also, when his juniors ask him about career advice they usually end up yawing whenever he gives them advice in detail :joy:, MC called him a boring counselor

 

Oh, dear - and I seem to recall JW saying that he liked doing the counsellor part of the job, too. :sweat_smile:

 

This fan posted some little snippets with English subs on Instagram. It's mostly stuff that was already mentioned in summary articles and whatnot, but you definitely need to check out this one about what JW's like backstage during Ghost if you haven't seen it already ;) 

 

Early birthday gifts from fans

 

Compilation of Alice cast updates - including, rather hilariously, baby Min Hyuk. :lol: Why Kwak Si Yang chose that picture to share, though, is beyond me.

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45 minutes ago, kittyna said:

Yeah, I was the one who was always wandering off because I saw something I wanted to look at. But I wasn't mischievous, either - so if I did come up to a barrier or something, I'd just stop rather than try to climb over

That's sounds like no fun and also, why do I feel like you were describing Joo Won's childhood, Lol! It is like which he would have done in his childhood, never crossing the line

47 minutes ago, kittyna said:

Oof...the way you put it like that, it's like he just can't win

Jokes apart, I really want him to meet someone who has an polar opposite, like he should meet someone who is funny and energetic,not like joo won is dull, but he shows energy only in his work, I feel like he has very low energy in his personal life and of course not so disruptive that would be counter productive and also, Joo won should also be perfect for her, not like only Joo won's happiness is important

 

 

 

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4 hours ago, kireeti2 said:

That's sounds like no fun and also, why do I feel like you were describing Joo Won's childhood, Lol! It is like which he would have done in his childhood, never crossing the line

 

lol - Maybe. I'm not sure what JW has said about what he was like as a child, actually - save that he said he was more outgoing and more of a leader during his primary school days.

 

4 hours ago, kireeti2 said:

Jokes apart, I really want him to meet someone who has an polar opposite, like he should meet someone who is funny and energetic,not like joo won is dull, but he shows energy only in his work,

 

lol - Like how he's literally bouncing around when he's all pumped up for Ghost? :P It was hilarious that Kim Gu Ra was like, "Why didn't you do that on Taxi?" and his female co-host was like, "Um - because you were literally in a taxi???"

 

(And then they joked that the way IVY was looking at him during his little dance was the same look that a parent would give their kids. :lol:)

 

And now for some more miscellaneous goodies:

 

Jin Gyeom's apartment, now including his office space

 

Cute fanart - I think this is meant to reference Jin Gyeom going after the cockroaches in his attic :P 

 

Love this fanart too!

 

Some famous Hallyu lookalikes - which ones have fooled you? - I'll admit that I've gotten Kim Min Jae/Yeo Jin Gu and Shin Ju Hwan/Ryu Jun Yeol mixed up before :D Not so much Kang Dong Won/Joo Won, though - like, I see the resemblance, but can usually do a decent job telling them apart in pictures.

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46 minutes ago, kittyna said:

And then they joked that the way IVY was looking at him during his little dance was the same look that a parent would give their kids.

Yeah, I observed it too. For some reason IVY was sort serious in the show, or maybe she was just not into it. 

 

53 minutes ago, kittyna said:

Some famous Hallyu lookalikes - which ones have fooled you? - I'll admit that I've gotten Kim Min Jae/Yeo Jin Gu and Shin Ju Hwan/Ryu Jun Yeol mixed up before :D Not so much Kang Dong Won/Joo Won, though - like, I see the resemblance, but can usually do a decent job telling them apart in pictures.

Joo won and Kang Dong, maybe, but it depends upon camera angle and joo won with school uniform in Alice trailer looked exactly like Kang Dong Won. But I find Kim Woo Bin and Kim Young-Kwang similar and sometimes I even get confused if the name is not mentioned, like every time I see Kim Woo Bin with a name tag I usually think it is Kim Young-Kwang

57 minutes ago, kittyna said:

Cute fanart - I think this is meant to reference Jin Gyeom going after the cockroaches in his attic

Thanks for explaining context of the art, like I saw it this morning, but I was not able to figure out the context or the scene from drama

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1 hour ago, kireeti2 said:

Thanks for explaining context of the art, like I saw it this morning, but I was not able to figure out the context or the scene from drama

 

Just my guess, really - my knowledge of Korean or Japanese isn't anywhere near good enough to read the caption :P But I did see those little sketch lines near Park Jin Gyeom's foot (which suggested he was stomping on something), and, well, the only time we've seen him do that so far is with the cockroaches. ;) 

 

1 hour ago, kireeti2 said:

For some reason IVY was sort serious in the show, or maybe she was just not into it. 

 

Maybe she's just more serious in real life? I don't know anything about her besides that she's done Ghost with JW twice, so....

 

1 hour ago, kireeti2 said:

Joo won and Kang Dong, maybe, but it depends upon camera angle and joo won with school uniform in Alice trailer looked exactly like Kang Dong Won

 

If you compare a younger JW and a younger Kang Dong Won at the same age (especially when they're each in their early 20s), then I can definitely see a very close resemblance. But if I were to compare them now, or even side-by-side pictures from their mid-20s onwards, there is a noticeable difference in how their features have matured over time.

 

1 hour ago, kireeti2 said:

But I find Kim Woo Bin and Kim Young-Kwang similar and sometimes I even get confused if the name is not mentioned, like every time I see Kim Woo Bin with a name tag I usually think it is Kim Young-Kwang

 

I can't say that's happened to me before, but maybe it's because - just by fluke - I haven't gotten around to watching any of Kim Woo Bin's dramas. So most of the shots I've seen from him have been from him playing the "bad boy" type in The Heirs, or magazine photo shoots - and the whole persona I get from those contrasts so strongly from the cute and fluffy vibe I get from Kim Young Kwang's drama characters (so far, I've seen him in PinocchioGood DoctorSweet Stranger and Me and Room No. 9) that I have them as being two very distinct people in my head.

 

This is also a good chance to point out that, while I have yet to actually mix anyone up, there are enough actors out there now with a vague general resemblance to Song Joong Ki that I sense that's a very popular "look" in Hallyu right now.

 

Behind-the-scenes footage from Episode 9

 

Park Si On vs. Park Jin Gyeom - Actually, there were some shots of Jin Gyeom in the hair-drying scene after this that did end up making me think of Park Si On

 

And, apparently, "Tell Me" is the quintessential "cringe" dance for K-drama guys :loolz: - I think Jin Gyeom's take is still the most awkward, but only just by a hair :P 

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On 9/23/2020 at 8:10 AM, kittyna said:

So, yeah. Definitely not healthy. By the time I came back, it was with the conclusion that I still liked his good boy image, but that I would stay away from celebrity news outside of actual acting-related stuff for the sake of my own sanity.

 

But given that, I still can only really bring myself to be interested in one celebrity in any deep sort of way, and so here I am for the time being :)

 

I get this sentiment.. I tend to take my long time off from soompi due to this too.. human in general is flawed so keeping them in pedestal isn't good for sanity. Ultimately all celebrities has a side that we do not know, nor do we want to know. I just hope his good boy image be intact and he can be consistent towards his personal view of being a 'Humane actor' so far people close to him also said popularity has  not contaminated his sincere and hard working mind.. I hope he can hold on to that not just for his supporters but for himself, so he can be proud and confident. As @kireeti2 said later I also think him being with his family keeps him more grounded. He's someone who openly talks about his close relationship with family members like (Mother, Father and Elder Brother).. So I just hope they keep being his bottom line for every steps he takes.

 

On 9/23/2020 at 9:33 AM, kireeti2 said:

Btw, did you observe in BTS of that Karaoke scene, where Joo won suddenly became quiet once Lee Da In came into to picture, like, until then joo won was like dancing and singing and teaching Kim Hee Seon how to sing and dance. I sort of felt like that he was a bit shy around Lee Da In or is it just my imagination or  maybe he is still mad that she hit him too hard in that episode 5 scene :joy:

I think so too. They both seemed to be a bit shy around each other. We know JW is a bit more comfortable around Hyung and Noona. So I guess it's because of that.. Also I noticed that Lee Da In in general sang well in the karaoke scene. 

 

 

 

 

Have you guys watched the full episode of Radio Star yet? If you haven't here is a subtitled link:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1nPQP8gytnK2lAqGfNrgrx7lX8le1pdcX/view

 

The uploader is not in soompi but do read soompi JW thread, requested me to put it here so you all can enjoy.

 

Kim Gura complained a lot about JW's Taxi stories but in JW's defense he did quite well in taxi better than many other appearance of him.. He talked about dating, rumor with other actress ( How there's news about he likes everyone of his co actress-- he was like what I am I supposed to say when you ask me if I like her and then news it as if I am in love with her!!), he did Park si on impression when they asked him to do so.. He did a lot.. but  only catch is that what he says doesn't make him cool rather give the impression of innocent and old fashioned.. that's not enough scoop for media.  Anyways Kim Gura seemed to be satisfied this time and JW seemed to be confident this time 'I am who I am" type of vibe..

 

 

 

 

Here's some of the clip of Taxi Episode 315 from Youtube.. I think the full episode can be found in illegal site but links can't be share here.

 

I will share my thoughts on JW's radio star appearance after I watch tonight's Alice episdoe. 

 

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45 minutes ago, flutterby06 said:

Kim Gura complained a lot about JW's Taxi stories but in JW's defense he did quite well in taxi better than many other appearance of him.. He talked about dating, rumor with other actress ( How there's news about he likes everyone of his co actress-- he was like what I am I supposed to say when you ask me if I like her and then news it as if I am in love with her!!), he did Park si on impression when they asked him to do so.. He did a lot.. but  only catch is that what he says doesn't make him cool rather give the impression of innocent and old fashioned.. that's not enough scoop for media.  Anyways Kim Gura seemed to be satisfied this time and JW seemed to be confident this time 'I am who I am" type of vibe..

 

In Joo Won's defense, it is hard to do a talk show/variety show or be a member. Only handful of members are able to run successful variety shows, as you can see they are like recycled in every show in every entertainment network, like members of "Knowing bros, Running Man" are in every talk shows/variety shows of different entertainment networks. These variety shows are like, they need to be entertaining every minute of the show, there should be constant jokes/pranks need to be made in order to attract viewers and many talk shows have less life or survival chances in the rating business, like if they can get enough ratings they are discontinued. The shows which were popular for sometime usually loose their shine and eventually broadcasting companies discontinues them.

 

53 minutes ago, flutterby06 said:

Have you guys watched the full episode of Radio Star yet? If you haven't here is a subtitled link:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1nPQP8gytnK2lAqGfNrgrx7lX8le1pdcX/view

Thanks for the link.

 

54 minutes ago, flutterby06 said:

I noticed that Lee Da In in general sang well in the karaoke scene. 

Yeah, she sang better than Kim Hee Seon, it almost felt like I was listening to a professional singers.  Is she a ex-idol or Was she trained to be an Idol? Since lot of Idols can acting classes along with singing, so they can have an alternative career in acting.

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1 hour ago, kireeti2 said:

Yeah, she sang better than Kim Hee Seon, it almost felt like I was listening to a professional singers.  Is she a ex-idol or Was she trained to be an Idol? Since lot of Idols can acting classes along with singing, so they can have an alternative career in acting.

 

Young actor/actress these are better in dancing, singing, most are multi talented. I don't think she tried to be idol.. He mom and sister are actress.. You Know Lee Yu Bi? Da in little sister of her. I previously saw her in My Golden Life. She played an interesting side character in that family drama. When I saw her getting casted in Alice I thought it was a good edition but I didn't knew she would be playing such important role. She is doing good for a fairly not so experienced actress.

 

Don't know if it was shared here Da In uploaded this cute pic on IG in last week. Someone captioned it on twitter as "Jin Gyeom with his favorite people." I couldn't help but agree.. Though Chief Go turned out to be shady but he's in Jin Gyeom's heart nonetheless.

 

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I just noticed today that other than Da In, three of them are wearing costumes from Jin Gyeom's Death scene!

 

There's also this cute interaction between JW and KHS. She uploaded picture of Taeyi Min Hyuk and JW be like the kid who is upset seeing him absent in his parents' wedding photo- "Where am I?" KHS replied "You're not born yet baby/son" Ha ha the cast are doing promotion interestingly previously JW commented on KSY's photo 'Appa?" :P

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And Here JW playing E.T. with Kim Sang Ho..

 

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4 hours ago, flutterby06 said:

I just hope his good boy image be intact and he can be consistent towards his personal view of being a 'Humane actor' so far people close to him also said popularity has contaminated his sincere and hard working mind.. I hope he can hold on to that not just for his supporters but for himself, so he can be proud and confident.

 

"Has" or "hasn't" contaminated? I think you wound up writing the opposite of what you meant, because I read "said popularity has contaminated his sincere and hard working mind" and was honestly freaked out for a second before I read the rest of your comment :sweat_smile:

 

(Sorry - I usually don't nitpick over people's grammar, especially since I'm well aware that Soompi is an international forum. However, when what was written is literally the exact opposite of what was meant...let's just say it's an occupational disease ;))

 

4 hours ago, flutterby06 said:

Have you guys watched the full episode of Radio Star yet? If you haven't here is a subtitled link:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1nPQP8gytnK2lAqGfNrgrx7lX8le1pdcX/view

 

The uploader is not in soompi but do read soompi JW thread, requested me to put it here so you all can enjoy.

 

Thanks for the link! Will watch when I have time (although the new episodes of Alice will probably take priority)

 

4 hours ago, flutterby06 said:

He did a lot.. but  only catch is that what he says doesn't make him cool rather give the impression of innocent and old fashioned.. that's not enough scoop for media.  Anyways Kim Gura seemed to be satisfied this time and JW seemed to be confident this time 'I am who I am" type of vibe..

 

JW's confidence took a massive boost during his Yong Pal days - we see that self-assurance already starting to form in Healing Camp, and his winning the Daesang just clinched it.

 

I think that 2013 (which is when we see JW leaving 1N2D, giving interviews like this one on Taxi, etc.) was a huge transition point in JW's personal journey - something of a quarter-life-crisis, if you will - where he started to rethink his personality/character, career choices, values and perspectives, etc. Part of that, from what I've managed to pick up from interviews, variety show comments, etc. stemmed from his realization that he didn't really have the "right" personality for variety shows like 1N2D (nothing wrong with that, but it still needed to be addressed), and part of it (I think) was from playing Park Si On in Good Doctor. I couldn't help but notice that JW's comments about wanting to stay "pure/innocent" and not change closely paralleled what Park Si On was going through, so I think that playing the role actually pushed JW to reflect back on himself and no longer fear that natural process of growing up. 

 

By 2015, we start to see the end product of that transition, and I think that now, post-enlistment, he's gotten even more confident. JW now seems convinced that the personality traits and values that make him who he is are things that he should be proud of, and that's a huge step. I recall JW saying once that there's a saying that goes, "Life begins at 30" or something like that - it's actually inspired by an actual Chinese saying that's also been borrowed into Korean culture: At 30 I stood firm | 三十而立. What it means is that, according to Confucian philosophy, 30 is the age when one is finally sure about one's values and way in life, and it's nice to see that paralleled in JW's actual experiences in his late 20s/early 30s.

 

1 hour ago, flutterby06 said:

He mom and sister are actress.. You Know Lee Yu Bi? Da in little sister of her. I previously saw her in My Golden Life. She played an interesting side character in that family drama. When I saw her getting casted in Alice I thought it was a good edition but I didn't knew she would be playing such important role. She is doing good for a fairly not so experienced actress.

 

Wait - Lee Da In is Lee Yu Bi's little sister? I didn't know that! Both of them seem to do a good job playing these cute-but-sassy characters :) 

 

1 hour ago, flutterby06 said:

There's also this cute interaction between JW and KHS. She uploaded picture of Taeyi Min Hyuk and JW be like the kid who is upset seeing him absent in his parents' wedding photo- "Where am I?" KHS replied "You're not born yet baby/son" Ha ha the cast are doing promotion interestingly previously JW commented on KSY's photo 'Appa?" :P

 

:loolz: I love how the Alice cast has just taken this whole "family" idea and run with it! I hope they keep that up, because it's been hilarious. The fans have been loving this new exchange between JW and Kim Hee Sun, too - many have also pitched in with replies along the lines of, "You weren't born yet." One actually said, "Jin Gyeom-ah, you're still in the process", which just made me lose it :lol:

 

(I haven't seen Kwak Si Yang joining in yet - maybe he replied to JW's "Appa?" comment and I just don't know - but he did recently post a baby picture of himself with a caption self-identifying as "Min Hyuk", so....)

 

1 hour ago, flutterby06 said:

I just noticed today that other than Da In, three of them are wearing costumes from Jin Gyeom's Death scene!

 

JW's also still got the fake blood on him :P 

 

Another awesome piece of fanart - Honestly, how fast is this artist, though???

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47 minutes ago, kittyna said:

"Has" or "hasn't" contaminated? I think you wound up writing the opposite of what you meant, because I read "said popularity has contaminated his sincere and hard working mind" and was honestly freaked out for a second before I read the rest of your comment :sweat_smile:

 

(Sorry - I usually don't nitpick over people's grammar, especially since I'm well aware that Soompi is an international forum. However, when what was written is literally the exact opposite of what was meant...let's just say it's an occupational disease ;))

 

Well my bad..Thanks for mentioning it..because if not you guys someone may've misunderstood if they suddenly read that line without not reading my previous posts..:sweatingbullets:

 

53 minutes ago, kittyna said:

:loolz: I love how the Alice cast has just taken this whole "family" idea and run with it! I hope they keep that up, because it's been hilarious. The fans have been loving this new exchange between JW and Kim Hee Sun, too - many have also pitched in with replies along the lines of, "You weren't born yet." One actually said, "Jin Gyeom-ah, you're still in the process", which just made me lose it :lol:

 

(I haven't seen Kwak Si Yang joining in yet - maybe he replied to JW's "Appa?" comment and I just don't know - but he did recently post a baby picture of himself with a caption self-identifying as "Min Hyuk", so....)

 

Yeah the cast interaction are quite fun.. Some of them are carefully uploading photo's that are consistent with the episode running that day or the next.

 

Why'd KSY upload picture of his baby self. Is it to because of Chuseok. Because he is waering hanbok?

 

Speaking of Chuseok Alice will not be aired next week due to Chu Seok.. I saw in next weeks teaser many Korean viewers are complaining why Alice won't be aired on Chuseok.. They're looking forward to next episode. Honestly after watching episode 10 and episode 11 teaser I feel sad.. Jin Gyeom is so very pitiful.. why does it have to be someone he feels so close with..:cry: Why does it have to be like this... JW's eyes..:bawling:

 

Don't watch it if you're not looking for spoiler. Many dreaded this already though.

 

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1 hour ago, flutterby06 said:

Why'd KSY upload picture of his baby self. Is it to because of Chuseok. Because he is waering hanbok?

 

Speaking of Chuseok Alice will not be aired next week due to Chu Seok.. I saw in next weeks teaser many Korean viewers are complaining why Alice won't be aired on Chuseok.. They're looking forward to next episode.

 

Personally, I don't mind the show taking a hiatus for Chuseok. The way I see it, Chuseok/Mid-Autumn Festival (if you're Chinese like me)/etc. are big family-oriented celebrations with their own traditions. Under those circumstances, it's hard to say how many people would actually be watching TV at night, so maybe taking a break is for the best in the long run.

 

Of course, I don't know if SBS does Chuseok specials or anything like that (like what KBS used to do), but if they do... *fingers crossed* Or, if that's asking too much, I do hope we at least get some sort of Chuseok greeting from the cast members: either together or separately. Hey, if they do it separately on their respective Instagram accounts, we might get more in-character shenanigans from this family - wouldn't that be fun? :) 

 

1 hour ago, flutterby06 said:

Honestly after watching episode 10 and episode 11 teaser I feel sad.. Jin Gyeom is so very pitiful.. why does it have to be someone he feels so close with..:cry: Why does it have to be like this... JW's eyes..

 

Thanks for the heads-up. I saw the Episode 11 teaser (since, for some reason, I tend to watch the next episode's preview before watching the current episode - maybe just to get a general sense where things are going first), and I feel like Episodes 9 and 10 are gonna be heartwrenching to get through. :criesariver:

 

Also, out of all the new stills that have been released for this pair of episodes - if you told me this was Park Si On instead of Park Jin Gyeom, I would've believed you. Like, seriously, what's with that cute face??? :omg:

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10 hours ago, flutterby06 said:

There's also this cute interaction between JW and KHS. She uploaded picture of Taeyi Min Hyuk and JW be like the kid who is upset seeing him absent in his parents' wedding photo- "Where am I?" KHS replied "You're not born yet baby/son" Ha ha the cast are doing promotion interestingly previously JW commented on KSY's photo 'Appa?" 

Lol! Kim Hee Seo and her witty replies never fails to make me laugh :joy: That's one hell of a cute family

 

6 hours ago, kittyna said:

Also, out of all the new stills that have been released for this pair of episodes - if you told me this was Park Si On instead of Park Jin Gyeom, I would've believed you.

I am still having hard time seeing JG as Park Si-On, there is this innocent look on PKS every time he comes on the screen, maybe it's the Joo won's way of switching on/off the innocent look of his characters. In this picture I find similarities between both the characters, but there is also a distinction, like, PKS does have hard time showing his feelings just like JG,but JG character lacks child like innocence.

8 hours ago, flutterby06 said:

Speaking of Chuseok Alice will not be aired next week due to Chu Seok.. I saw in next weeks teaser many Korean viewers are complaining why Alice won't be aired on Chuseok.

What? But in the website it is showing that it will be aired next week as per schedule

8 hours ago, flutterby06 said:

Jin Gyeom is so very pitiful.. why does it have to be someone he feels so close with..:cry: Why does it have to be like this... JW's eyes..

Well, on the bright side that's one hell of twist in the drama, like, in the beginning I thought Detective Ko will be the last guy to hurt JG, but he doing this to save his wife, so, the writers should also mention background story of Detective Ko and his motivation to work for the "Teacher".

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I'll do replies at some other time, but I actually had a rare free Saturday night, so I'm getting to my take on Episode 9 of Alice early!

 

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There's definitely more of a "second half" feel to this episode, insofar that I feel like we're finally getting more answers than questions. And slowly, the truths will out - Yoo Min Hyuk's finally put the pieces together just who Park Jin Gyeom is, and Yoon Tae Yi has also come away with some answers as well.

 

Not that she likes what she sees, and I don't blame her. I think there's a reasonable argument now that there won't be much of a love line between Yoon Tae Yi and Park Jin Gyeom anymore, simply because romance (or the potential of a romance) is pretty much the last thing on her mind right now. She knows she cares deeply for Jin Gyeom, and she wants to do everything in her power to protect him, but what is there to be done when there's literally just a week left? (Sun Young/Tae Yi's birthday is October 7, and Jin Gyeom's date of death - according to his grave marker in 2021 - is October 15.)

 

And I have to give it to both Kim Hee Sun and the screenwriters here for being able to get at so many nuances in Tae Yi's conflicting emotions right now: she's clearly badly shaken by what she discovered in her time travel, and she's desperately searching for answers, but there's a part of her that I think was still in denial...until Jin Gyeom gave her the necklace. It's like, somehow, that's the one thing that she needs to fully realize that she may, in fact, be powerless to stop what feels inevitable.

 

By the way, it's worth pointing out that both parallel versions of Tae Yi - the one from 2050 (i.e. Park Sun Young) and the one from 2020 - have both been completely turned off the concept of time travel now, each in her own way. And somehow, I sense that Park Jin Gyeom forms a big part of the impetus behind this change of heart for both of them as well.

 

And speaking of Jin Gyeom, can we talk about this whole "controlling time" aspect for a second? I'm still trying to wrap my head around it, to be honest, because right now, it does seem like Jin Gyeom has somehow managed to pick up this ability (or he had it all along and it's just manifesting now), but having the ability to stop time temporarily is not the same as controlling time. Clearly, this new power has a mind of its own, with Jin Gyeom just being its vessel - at least for the time being. So I do wonder what role it's going to play in the rest of the drama.

 

Also, I definitely came away from this episode way more curious about Oh Shi Young than before. For someone who was 2050-Tae Yi's friend at one point, there's a ton of pent-up resentment inside of her, as evidenced by her comments to Jin Gyeom about his mother. And I dunno - I hope the drama doesn't just go with the "romantic rivals" explanation, because that's 1) really cliché, and 2) hardly a way to get more depth in Oh Shi Young as a character. Like, I concede that she does have feelings for Min Hyuk, but that's hardly enough to go from "She's not just your girlfriend; she's my friend" (to Min Hyuk) to, "You're just like your mother - if the two of you die, you're only getting what's yours" (to Jin Gyeom) - especially since, for the people in "Alice", these two incidents are just a year apart. So, yep - the writers have some serious explaining to do here.

 

That aside, though, I did enjoy this episode overall. I thought the scenes shot inside the house - with Jin Gyeom in 2020 and Tae Yi in 2021 - were brilliantly done (just gorgeous editing throughout), and I also thought the whole hair-washing scene was really cute. Definitely got more parent-child than couple vibes there, though: especially with how Tae Yi teased Jin Gyeom by tapping him on the nose like that :) Also, it's worth noting that Jin Gyeom's feelings for Tae Yi are still firmly rooted in his longing for his mother: I noticed that when he found Tae Yi in the cemetery, he ends up looking behind her at his mother's photo; and it's memories of his mother's birthday (and ultimately death day) that end up coaxing a full-blown celebration for Tae Yi out from him.

 

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44 minutes ago, Nella2019 said:

Just a wild speculation, depending on how far in the future the time travelers are, but is it possible that the Professor is actually his grandmother or even great????

 

You mean, what if Park Sun Young is actually Yoon Tae Yi's future daughter or granddaughter? Theoretically, that's possible, but I'm not sure if that's the route the drama is going to take.

 

It sounds more like they're going with the parallel universe theory, where someone called "Yoon Tae Yi" (who looks like Kim Hee Sun :P) exists in both worlds, but not literally at the same time so they end up different ages. If you look at the two universes working on parallel timelines, then 2020-Tae Yi is technically older than 2050-Tae Yi (that is, if the age given on her fake ID as Park Sun Young is actually correct and she really was just 25 when she went from 2050 to 1992). However, because 2050-Tae Yi stays in the universe where she doesn't technically belong, both parallel versions co-exist as two people with their separate paths in life.

 

And I think this - combined with the radiation - can explain all the ways that Jin Gyeom is different from anyone from either parallel universe right now: because rather than the possibility of there being two versions of him (i.e. one from each universe), they're somehow both combined into a single entity. 

 

Either that, or, as "Alice"'s doctor pointed out, the radiation caused more genetic mutations than just the one behind Jin Gyeom's alexithymia. Hearing her describe it to Min Hyuk, I'm not surprised now that 1) he was so quick to suggest an abortion in 1992; and 2) he and so many others automatically assumed that his son was already dead. It does sound like that was the general consensus in the medical community in 2050, according to this drama: that the severe dose of radiation incurred in the midst of time travel would cause spontaneous genetic mutations in the fetus, leading it to either die in utero (at which point the mother miscarries) or be stillborn (i.e. born dead or dying immediately after birth). Even in the off chance that the child does survive, it sounds like the assumption was that the child would suffer such severe developmental defects that his/her life would be a living hell.

 

From that standpoint, I can understand Min Hyuk's suggestion for an abortion (in comparison to Oh Shi Young's) as coming out of love: he believes that it's the most humane choice for both Sun Young and their child. But now that he knows the truth - that Sun Young is dead but their child survived and, alexithymia aside, has been otherwise healthy - I think he's going to do everything he can to make sure Jin Gyeom continues to survive, at least.

 

8 hours ago, kireeti2 said:

Well, on the bright side that's one hell of twist in the drama, like, in the beginning I thought Detective Ko will be the last guy to hurt JG, but he doing this to save his wife, so, the writers should also mention background story of Detective Ko and his motivation to work for the "Teacher".

 

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And now it's time for my own wild speculation: seeing Go Hyung Seok's dark turn now - including the scar that suggests he's a time traveler as well - it actually crossed my mind whether there were two of him, too. Sort of like what happened with the mother who traveled back in time and killed her past self in order to replace her - what if the Go Hyung Seok we see now isn't the same as the one who took Jin Gyeom under his wing?

 

I know that Episodes 10 and 11 most likely already disprove this - nor does this theory change what happens to Jin Gyeom, unfortunately - but that's actually what I first thought when I saw that scar.

 

Another thing I didn't get around to mentioning in my last post: seeing that photo of Tae Yi and Jin Gyeom together at the amusement park, I think we also need to rethink the flashback from Episode 7. Because now we know that, for some reason or another, the adult versions Park Sun Young sees are the ones from that photo. So we come back to my initial thought on seeing that flashback: what else did Sun Young know about her son's future right from the start? lol - This is going into "Mary, Did You Know?" territory (for those who know the song), but it's something worth thinking about.

 

8 hours ago, kireeti2 said:

What? But in the website it is showing that it will be aired next week as per schedule

 

Same, actually - the Episode 11 preview I saw on YouTube said it would be airing on October 2 (i.e. on schedule). But I also saw news of the postponement here - so...conflicting stories now?

 

The full process of filming a fight scene in Alice - Storyboard, rehearsal, filming, monitoring :) 

 

Pictures and footage from Ghost rehearsals

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29 minutes ago, kittyna said:

But I also saw news of the postponement here - so...conflicting stories now?

I saw the same Instagram post, and this fan account has also been posting accurate news about Joo won and his dramas. So,. Iam mentally prepared that I will not be able watch Alice next week

33 minutes ago, kittyna said:

And now it's time for my own wild speculation: seeing Go Hyung Seok's dark turn now - including the scar that suggests he's a time traveler as well - it actually crossed my mind whether there were two of him, too. Sort of like what happened with the mother who traveled back in time and killed her past self in order to replace her - what if the Go Hyung Seok we see now isn't the same as the one who took Jin Gyeom under his wing?

I heard this theory too, but it sor of doesn't stand scrutiny. For instance, when Detective Ko found out that PSY was killed with a weapon futuristic weapon. And , he was oblivious to lot of things halpneing around JG before he kidnapped Seo Ok won. So I think he is the present day Detectice Ko and not from the future and also his age doesn't permit him to come from the future.

36 minutes ago, kittyna said:

what else did Sun Young know about her son's future right from the start? lol - This is going into "Mary, Did You Know?" territory (for those who know the song), but it's something worth thinking about.

I am still curious if TY has the last page of book of prophecy or at least itvis buried in her memory and will surface. Since the last page seem to be vital for the plot and as links about the future of JG .

8 hours ago, kittyna said:

And speaking of Jin Gyeom, can we talk about this whole "controlling time" aspect for a second?

Yeah, I was surprised too. I thought he will dodge the bullet or at least oh young will spare his life . I think is this power has some negative affects on his life, like blood from his nose and headaches seem to be Symptoms of time traveling with our time card

 

8 hours ago, kittyna said:

Clearly, this new power has a mind of its own, with Jin Gyeom just being its vessel - at least for the time being. So I do wonder what role it's going to play in the rest of the drama.

Yeah, it felt like a parasite in host. Like it is trying to protect JG in order to protect itself. So yeah it will have negative effects kn his life or worse, it may threaten his life

 

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1 hour ago, kireeti2 said:

I heard this theory too, but it sor of doesn't stand scrutiny. For instance, when Detective Ko found out that PSY was killed with a weapon futuristic weapon. And , he was oblivious to lot of things halpneing around JG before he kidnapped Seo Ok won. So I think he is the present day Detectice Ko and not from the future and also his age doesn't permit him to come from the future.

 

I know - which is why I mentioned that I knew Episode 10 would disprove it. ;) I'm just saying that the thought flashed through my mind while watching Episode 9.

 

1 hour ago, kireeti2 said:

I am still curious if TY has the last page of book of prophecy or at least itvis buried in her memory and will surface. Since the last page seem to be vital for the plot and as links about the future of JG .

 

That's a good point. We know that mini-Tae Yi had it on the night her father was killed, but we don't know what happened to it afterwards - or even whether Tae Yi held on to it at all, since I doubt a child her age would understand why that one page was so important.

 

Personally, I think the whereabouts of the last page will be connected to who put Tae Yi up for adoption in the first place. Jin Gyeom suspects right now that her mother didn't actually die in childbirth (based on Tae Yi's testimony), but I actually think that she did and the person Tae Yi thinks is her mother actually isn't. We'll have to see how that all plays out; we should get an answer soon now that Jin Gyeom's also trying to search for Tae Yi's biological mother.

 

1 hour ago, kireeti2 said:

Yeah, I was surprised too. I thought he will dodge the bullet or at least oh young will spare his life . I think is this power has some negative affects on his life, like blood from his nose and headaches seem to be Symptoms of time traveling with our time card

 

Yeah - same symptoms from Episode 5 after his time travel to 2010, but this time, we see that they coincide exactly with when this superpower gives out and time resumes its original pace. Again, this is something I hope the drama delves into further, along with why (up to this point at least) Jin Gyeom doesn't have the same symptoms as others who've traveled through time including Tae Yi.

 

(Yes, I know that Episode 10 explains why those from "Alice" are fine - some sort of anti-radiation medication they carry on their persons - but that just makes Jin Gyeom's situation even weirder, knowing that he's like neither those from 2020 nor those from 2050.)

 

1 hour ago, kireeti2 said:

I saw the same Instagram post, and this fan account has also been posting accurate news about Joo won and his dramas. So,. Iam mentally prepared that I will not be able watch Alice next week

 

Well, if it is postponed, I have some ideas for interactives and whatnot to keep the momentum going for this week. They're things I was originally going to save for after Alice is done, but we can do them sooner if things really end up dead quiet over here.

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