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  1. OMG. OMG. OMG. :scream:

     

    Mwahahahahah!!!!  Those photos!!!  They're real!!! :w00t:

     

    Honestly, when the post showing that polaroid picture of LSK and LJE came out,  I was already over the moon.  And then this!  And an interview too!  The interview may not have been all that I hoped for because they never even hinted at the relationship of Park Dong Hoon and Lee Ji An but hey, at this rate,  I'll take what I can get. And this is already so much more than I expected,  given the media blackout that this drama seems to be under,  despite being a certified hit. 

     

    But it's still frustrating and disappointing that the relationship of our main leads is still being treated like the elephant in the room. I hope this changes as the drama progresses in Japan. In fact,  I hope it goes the way of "Winter Sonata",  that Hallyu classic drama that made Bae Yong Joon and Choi Jin Woo megastars in Japan and the rest of Asia. :)

     

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  2. 32 minutes ago, t123han said:

    In my desperation to watch some skinship by LSK I watched few of his movies .. he definitely has no qualms venturing into risqué territory and some of his roles were quite scandalous. 

    But i am not satisfied because what I wanted was skinship from park Dong Hoon and not LSK. Would it have hurt to show some skinship between him and his wife at least. They were so specific not to show any forms of closeness with his wife and choose to in turn highlight his relation with his jian.

    Is it weird for me to be obsessed over wanting to see some form of physical intimacy on behalf of a fictional character .. damn PDH why you have to be stoic and uptight !!! 

     

    @t123han hahaha. I'm definitely sure you're not alone in your obsession. :D

     

    Park Dong Hoon is the sort of character that you want to see broken,  meaning,  you want to see him reach his breaking point because he's always so controlled. Yet you know there's this wellspring of violent emotion underneath it all.  If the way he gets angry is any indication, he's probably intensely passionate in love.  It's just that Yoon Hee probably never inspired that level of passion in him.  He loved her but wasn't deeply in love with her. Ji An,  on the other hand,  was everything that he never expected his temptation to be so he never put up any defenses against her in the beginning. So the powerful emotions she awakened in him really caught him offguard. Watching Park Dong Hoon being all stoic while you can sense all that smoldering emotion in his eyes and the way his voice breaks is the stuff of legendary fictional romantic heroes.   So we can only imagine how it would be if he lets himself loose and actually initiates intimate contact with Ji An.  Girl had better be prepared. :) 

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  3. 9 hours ago, sadiesmith said:

     

    <_<  Unbelievable!!  But what are those polaroid pictures though?  Wish @tiger457_stv were still around and we can send him to the other side and bring back little goodies like these.

     

    Are Japanese viewers a lot more open when it comes to age-gap romance?  Does anyone think the Japanese edition might have scenes that were omitted/cut to suit Korean viewing?

     

    @sadiesmith  they might be.  Don't the Japanese manga, anime and even live drama often portray romance between an older man (often someone of authority, like a teacher or a professor) and a much younger woman (his student or apprentice)?  I've seen several anime and live dramas with that kind of a storyline and they're well-accepted.  Pretty much similar to the way the Westerners react to age-gap stories, like what I mentioned in my previous post.  

     

    Speaking of Western age-gap romances, one of my all-time favorite films along this line is "Sabrina", both the original version starring Humphrey Bogart and Audrey Hepburn, and the remake starring Harrison Ford and Julia Ormond.  Now that I think of it, Linus Larrabee is a lot like Park Dong Hoon in personality and temperament.  And like Park Dong Hoon, he was a prisoner of expectations from his family and society.  I remember there was a line at the end of the movie (the remake version) when Linus went after Sabrina and finally confessed to her.  He said something along the lines of "I've been walking in footsteps all my life" and he asked Sabrina to save him from that life because she was the only one who could do so.  That line, in a nutshell, is Park Dong Hoon's life as well before Lee Ji An came into it.  I just wish My Ahjussi had the same passionate kiss that Linus and Sabrina had at the end of the film.  But, like what @justamom said, the writer and director decided to leave all of that offscreen to avoid further controversy.  Too bad.  I'm sure LSK and LJE would have given us a kiss for the books.  Good thing their chemistry was such that, even without any kiss, we still knew the depth of feeling and passion that they had for each other.  So, hurray still, coz it gave us fodder for our fanfics.  :D    

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  4. 4 hours ago, rellea said:

    Sooo.... I was lurking in the Japanese MA tag on twitter 'cause I heard that it's started airing in Japan recently, and lookie what I found:

     

    Here we were thirsting for any kind of shot of LSK and LJE together, and they're just giving them out to Japanese viewers like candy. I call discrimination. :triumph:

     

    @rellea argh! That is indeed so unfair. 

     

    To me, this is proof that the almost-lockdown in the SK media about anything (photo, articles, interviews,  etc.) that remotely hints of any closeness or some level of intimacy between LSK and LJE is really paranoia over the age gap issue.  They must have a lot of photos and videos together,  both from official cameras and personal files of the actors,  staff and crew.  Yet all we got was that photo of them sitting together, apart from the videos of their wrap up party and a couple of group photos. Yet it's almost always with a group.  Other hit dramas often come out with post-drama presscons and interviews and the like,  and photos and videos of the leads are all over social media. Not with MA. 

     

    I really don't understand it. It's not like they're doing anything bad. Is it their fault that their onscreen chemistry is just so strong and in-your-face without them even trying? That compared to much younger actors who may have been paired with LJE at one time or another, LSK suits her best (and these are LJE's own words)?  This is a mystery to me too but it may be because LJE has this image of being their nation's little sister so they find it hard to let go of this sweet and wholesome image they have of her.   Her role as Lee Ji An and LJA's unconventional but powerful relationship with LSK's Park Dong Hoon is just too much for them to digest.  I can only imagine if their relationship had gone the way of LSK's character's relationship in his film 'Paju', or Kim Go Eun's in her film 'Eun Gyo',  what would these people have done? Jump into he Han River from outrage? Turn their backs on supporting LJE? 

     

    It may really be a cultural thing,  as previously discussed at length and in great detail by some of us here.  I don't see the same aversion or violent reaction towards partnerships with significant age gaps in Hollywood.  From the Golden Age of Hollywood till the present, actors and actresses of significant age gaps are often paired and I don't recall viewers focusing so much on the difference in their ages or citing it as a major concern that will prevent them from appreciating the story. :huh:

     

    But they're really cute in that first polaroid shot. I hope LJE comes out with the other song she composed for MA and have LSK in it with her, just to show those naysayers. I wonder how that will go down with the media. Hehehehe. :D

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  5. On 7/1/2018 at 3:38 PM, justamom said:

     

     

    Wahh we've been discovered! Ahaha. Or are you the quiet uaena @mylovelystar?

     

     

    @akhenaten yes, DVDs and blu rays will be available for sale later, but without the scripts and other specials

     

     

     

    @justamom sorry to ask again but aside from the script,  what would be the other specials in the initial batch of orders?  Thanks so much! :)

     

  6. 22 hours ago, sadiesmith said:

    I have been waiting for this for so many years and at this point, I think even he considers himself too old for such role.  :tears: MA came closest. It will take a super good script with a most talented director like KWS.  He said he accepted this role before even reading the script, that's how much he admires KWS.  His own words:

    These days he seems going further away from doing a romcom. He showed a little melo (love line) with Kim Go-eun in the ‘Advocate” and it didn’t look awkward even with their vast age difference. “But I think Kim Go-eun’s fans would not think so. (would not think they are well matched) Now as the lead in a romcom.. well, would people like me? And there are not many genre like that these days. Also there are many young and beautiful guys, and I feel like they should do it.”

     

    @sadiesmith I think LSK would be willing to do it if the script is really good or he really wants to work with the director,  or both.  Hopefully,  someone takes a gamble on him and LJE again but in film. Though I hope it would be somewhere along the lines of Jane Eyre or Wuthering Heights. 

     

    I'm curious about his film "Advocate".  I like Kim Go-eun and actually loved her in "Goblin".  I think she's a good actress and it would be interesting to watch her dynamic with a highly skilled actor like LSK. :)

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  7. 19 hours ago, popai5 said:

    @mymister31 Thank you for sharing the South Korean perspective on MA and on the views on age-gap and relationships.

     

    What was the response when 'My Spring Days/The Spring Days of My Life' with Sooyoung and Kam Woo Sung (20 year gap), 'Marriage Contract' with Uee and Lee Seo Jin (17 years), 'Entertainer' with Lee Hyeri and Ji Sung (17 years), 'The Flower in Prison' Jin Se Yeon and Go Soo (16 years), 'Beautiful Gong Shim' Bang Minah and Namgoong Min (15 years) and 'A Beautiful Mind' with Park So Dam and Jang Hyuk? Oh I forgot 'Prime Minister and I' with Yoona and Lee Bum So (20 years).

     

    Sorry for the long list. I don't know what the age gap between these characters are supposed to be. I guess younger actresses are often paired with older and more experienced actors to help with the acting and maybe to help with ratings. But did the public make a big fuss with those shows too? Or is it a newer thing with the voices from the more recent 'feminist activists'?

     

    Again, Thanks for sharing!

     

    @mymister31 @popai5  I can't speak for the other dramas you mentioned but I watched "Prime Minister & I" and was one of its many viewers who felt cheated about the treatment of the plot in the end.  There were not-so-nice comments about Lee Bum Soo being paired with Yoona and I remember there were some who were suggesting younger, more handsome actors.  They didn't think he was handsome enough and was too old to be paired with her.  Many of us in the soompi thread found that weird and illogical because the male lead was supposed to be the prime minister,  a widower with 3 kids who ended up marrying a 28-year-old reporter who covered him for the newspaper she worked for.  The idea of an actor in his late twenties or even mid-thirties playing such a role would've been totally unrealistic.  The drama's plot development and character development were initially very promising and many of us then felt that it was very refreshing how it handled the gradual development of their relationship.   Unfortunately,  it succumbed to the pressure from the criticisms and made it end in such a way that it downplayed the relationship between them. It was too bad because the way their relationship was portrayed was quite mature and sensible despite it being a romcom. 

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  8. 12 hours ago, anipanch said:

    Guys am I the only one who sees a weird resemblance between IU and LSK? Idk maybe it's my eyes deceiving me but when I look at them I can't help but think: "hey, why do I see similarities?" . Yeah IU has a very feminine face and LSK has masculine and one might not see it at first glance, but the more I look at them the more I see it :crazy:

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    Pff I can't find a normal pic of IU's side profile, most of them are so photoshopped -_- It was visible in Drama

     

     

    Anyway, end of my delusional rant :phew:

     

     

    @anipanch they do actually resemble each other. I noticed that too especially in screenshots of some scenes and in those rare BTS photos of them together.   It's not just a similarity in physical features but of expressions. Like in this photo which is probably the only one out there of them together offcam (which is strange, given that this drama was a hit and they're the leads). 

     

    Funny but where I come from, there's a belief that a man and a woman who resemble each other end up together. Perhaps because it's considered one of the signs of their compatibility.   It's also said (and if I remember correctly, there's a psychological basis for this as well) that couples who have been together for a long time tend to resemble each other and mirror each other's actions as well. 

     

    Now, in the context of LSK and LJE's partnership, maybe this is one of those signs of their compatibility,  which translates into their chemistry.   Their chemistry is very organic and flows very naturally.  Hence, their convincing portrayal of the connection between Park Dong Hoon and Lee Ji An. :)

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  9. 9 hours ago, justamom said:

    This could be a whole long post in itself all together, but here goes. 

     

    The funeral. A couple of folks at DC Inside pointed out that the funeral in episode seems to parallel the wedding in episode 1.

     

    But the writer flips things around. The wedding ends up disastrously, whereas the funeral is perfect. 

    During the wedding, Sang Hoon and his wife are on the brink of divorce. The first signs of cracks in Dong Hoon's marriage have appeared.

    After the funeral, Sang Hoon and his wife make up. While Dong Hoon and his wife...well we all know what happened there.

     

    As I wrote earlier, the funeral, for me, was also hugely symbolic. Dong Hoon at the head of the procession. I almost fell off my bed when I saw that. To a Korean audience, that significance needs no explanation. It's a declaration of his love -- through his actions and behaviour. 

     

    I'll try and translate later.... @rellea no obligation, but... :)

     

    "No matter how I see it, the funeral looks like a wedding"

    http://gall.dcinside.com/board/view/?id=mymister&amp;no=57092&amp;page=1&amp;search_pos=&amp;s_type=search_all&amp;s_keyword=장례식

     

    "Contrasting emotions reflected in the major events of Episodes 1 and 16"

    http://gall.dcinside.com/board/view/?id=mymister&amp;no=54484

     

    "Hidden contrasting emotions in the funeral in Episode 16"

    http://gall.dcinside.com/board/view/?id=mymister&amp;no=55279&amp;page=1&amp;search_pos=&amp;s_type=search_all&amp;s_keyword=장례식

     

    Funeral stills (just bookmarking this for myself :) )

    http://gall.dcinside.com/board/view/?id=mymister&amp;no=50449&amp;page=4&amp;search_pos=&amp;s_type=search_all&amp;s_keyword=장례식

     

    http://gall.dcinside.com/board/view/?id=mymister&amp;no=50284&amp;page=4&amp;search_pos=&amp;s_type=search_all&amp;s_keyword=장례식

     

     

     

    @justamom  My goodness.  I'm not Korean but I'm Asian so yes, I do understand on a cultural level the significance of Dong Hoon proactively taking on a primary role in the funeral of Ji An's grandmother.  His level of participation and involvement is usually only reserved for very close family members of the deceased.  For him to have taken that on actually sends a message that he sees Lee Bong Ae and Lee Ji an as family.  Now, others may still argue that his perception of them as family only shows that his emotional attachment towards Ji An is more filial than romantic.  Be that as it may, it still remains that Dong Hoon took on the part of the man of the house in that funeral.  And besides, I doubt that Sang Hoon would go out of his way to spend his own hard-earned money for a young woman he's only just met, regardless if he thinks she's a nice person and he pities her, unless he attaches greater significance to her than just being his brother's young friend.  Sang Hoon is very perceptive and he knows how important Ji An is to Dong Hoon.  In a way, he was making an investment when he spent for her grandmother's funeral, and you don't invest in a financial instrument that you haven't carefully studied, and you make sure your returns are more or less guaranteed in some form or fashion.  That return on Sang Hoon's investment in Lee Bong Ae's funeral would be the cementing of their family ties with Lee Ji An, and the reinforcement of her relationship with Dong Hoon.

     

    Seeing it in this light brings home to me the possible meaning and motivation behind Dong Hoon's insistence that Ji An must call him when her grandmother dies.  It was one of his ways of showing her how important she has become to him.  In as much as he is unable to articulate his feelings and makes use of actions and veiled language to show how much he cares, such as his speech about the slippers, this is another one of those actions laden with so much meaning behind them.  And everyone, his brothers and his close friends, know exactly what his actions mean, especially because they know Dong Hoon is not the kind of man who acts lightly or frivolously.

     

    Over at tumblr, someone actually commented that Dong Hoon was acting like such a husband throughout the funeral.  :D

     

    I'm really looking forward to those translations.  :)

         

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  10. 18 minutes ago, justamom said:

    Okay, after my passionate defense of three years time jump, I read up some more on DC Inside and it seems there is some debate about whether Dong Hoon said Ji Seok is now twelve or fourteen years in American age. I tried to listen but I honestly only caught the "yon..." and it sounds like "yon-ne" (fourteen). But it could also be "yol-tul..."

     

    So.....it looks like unless someone from the PD team clarifies...or we get the scripts, the jury is still out.

     

    :neutral:

     

    @justamom I personally lean towards the longer time jump, mainly because the events that were shown at the end would be logical only after some time has passed. 

     

    Ji An would need some time not just to heal from her traumatic childhood,  but to learn new skills that would qualify her even for an entry-level position at a company,  regardless if the Chairman of Saman E&C personally endorses her. From what I recall in earlier episodes,  she killed Kwang Il's father when she was just in middle school and had to serve whatever form of punishment the law imposed on her then. Plus,  I don't think that loan shark would have allowed her to continue with her schooling while he was making her do criminal acts. So there would have been a gap in her education and training that had to be rectified. 

     

    In the case of Dong Hoon, putting up a company and making it relatively successful to the point that it already has several employees isn't something that can happen in one year. Assuming the Saman E&C Chairman invested capital in Dong Hoon Structures to jumpstart it (something which I believe may have happened because the Chairman did say he didn't want to lose Dong Hoon),  a year is still too short to establish a foothold in the market,  such that Dong Hoon can already say he's making 4 times (?) as much as he used to at Saman. And I don't think his relationship with Yoon Hee was settled in a few days.  And Yoon Hee seems to have already been in the States for quite some time,  judging by her photos with Ji Seok. 

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  11. 5 hours ago, justamom said:

    This one is short, so I'll translate it quickly. 

     

    http://gall.dcinside.com/board/view/?id=mymister&amp;no=55800&amp;page=&amp;recommend=1

     

    "Pity is also a form of love."

     

    In Park Hae Young's earlier works, she has a line that goes "pity is also a form of love." If you see her work across a spectrum, then it would seem to suggest that pitying each other, in My Ahjussi, also carries the meaning of loving someone. The writer seems to see pitying someone as a necessary condition of love (of course, the love between a man and woman). I believe this also is connected with the Buddhism ideal of compassion.

     

    During the problematic container scene with Dong Hoon's long speech (also seen as an explanation scene), if you replace all the times Dong Hoon said "pity" with the word "love" or like", then all the problematic parts would be resolved. Another interesting point is that in this scene Ji An seems to understand Dong Hoon's "pity" as "love or "like". The problem is that unlike Ji An, most viewers did not seem to understand this point, and thus saw the container scene with much regret. Of course, that Dong Hoon does not say "love" or "like" is also something that needs to be explained.

     

    In episode 15, when we hear out Dong Hoon's feelings towards Ji An in the container scene, as well as the later scene in Jeong Hee's bar, in those three minutes it becomes easy to understand. In the later scene at Jeong Hee's bar, when Dong Hoon admits his love openly in front of everyone: from that moment Dong Hoon and Ji An's relationship becomes a real male-female relationship. (I think those who have reacted angrily to the images from this scene in earlier posts may also have the same reaction here ^^)

     

     

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    Me: This actually ties in with the earlier post I was thinking of writing about Buddhism. A key precept is to love someone is to know someone fully, and to empathise with someone completely is to love that person. I'll try to find that and link it here.


     

     

     

    @justamom  I have to rewatch that then.  If that's the case, then Ji An's reply to Dong Hoon in that episode 12 train scene (the one where she said she stayed at the office late because she missed him) when he told her that what she felt for him was out of pity now makes sense. She replied that he pitied her as well so isn't that the same thing.  So she was actually telling him that, if she said she likes/loves him and he says that her feelings are out of pity, then he likes/loves her too because he also helped her out of pity. 

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  12. 2 hours ago, ann04 said:

    @sadiesmith thanks for being so dedicated! And to all others too. Still havent been able to watch anything else :huh:. I tried WWWSK but like others said, Im missing the deepness that there was in MA. Let’s see how it goes after a few more episodes then hopefully (fingerscrossed!) Ill be more inclined to start it. Ive been silent but still following this thread everyday. Im still doing my rewatch too:D. I might share some new observations I noticed.  Your effort does not go unnoticed ^_^

     

    @ann04  @sadiesmith I've also started with What's Wrong With Secretary Kim,  aside from About Time. And you know what's wrong with it?  Nothing,  if what you're after is your typical KDrama where the male lead is a dashing CEO with a snobbish attitude that hides a caring side, and the female lead is a bubbly and happy young woman with a sparkling personality that will melt the CEO's heart. Trope all throughout. Fluffy and fun. But nothing profound and I doubt it will linger in your psyche long after it ends. :)

     

    It's like those little drugstore pocketbooks that you just buy and read to pass the time while waiting for a ride but you discard on your next stop. As opposed to MA which to me is like a Leo Tolstoy or a Victor Hugo novel,  which you really need to digest and turn over in your head and read over and over again. 

     

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  13. And so here I am, trying to slowly wean myself from My Ahjussi (in between rewatches hehehe) and I decided to marathon About Time.  While it's cute and exactly the kind of fluff that allows me to just sit back and be on auto-pilot mode, somehow I felt like there was something lacking.  I mean, fine, Lee Sang Yoon and Lee Sung Kyung are both eye-candy and physically suit each other.  But...but...  They argue and it's cute.  When they start to get serious and fall in love and Lee Sung Kyung's Choi Mi Ka stubbornly tries to push Lee Sang Yoon's Lee Do Ha away because she doesn't want him to die (employing that classic noble idiocy trope), I don't know why I feel so detached.  I like them well enough but...but. 

     

    It's the intensity.  I can't seem to find it.  Despite their tears, their declarations of love, there is no gut-wrenching reaction from me.  And then when I hear Do Ha say words about not knowing how he lived and breathed before Mi Ka came into his life, I can't help but think about Park Dong Hoon when he said Ji An helps him breathe.  And I am gone again.  

     

    Sheesh!  Otteokke????  :confounded:

     

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  14. 12 hours ago, justamom said:

     

    I was re-reading it, actually. When I first wrote it I thought it was a year's separation. But realising now that it must have been around 3 years, that kind of changes things. Three years is a long time. I'm planning to put an edited version on the fan site.

     

    @popai5 have added you to the group chat! We just need help filtering posts and putting them up on Wordpress. It's not that hard really. Thanks!


    I've been reading through a lot of the DC Inside posts. Some real gems inside. Will try to slowly translate and share here.

     

    It's the second last day to pre-order the Director's Cut and get all the specials including the scripts! Deadline is midnight KST on the 24th of June.

     

    http://m.cafe.daum.net/Mymister 

     

     
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    I've also been thinking about a particular scene, no rush @h2ogirl but if and when you have the time - you know in Episode 15 when Ji An reappears at Jeong Hee's bar?  (around 1hr 13 mins) And Jeong Hee and Dong Hoon are keeping up this whole pretense of Ji An having dropped by? 

     

    Dong Hoon (sits down): It's been a long time

    Ji An: THE LOOK. 

    Jae Chul: Did you know he's been made director?

    Ji An: Yes

    Jae Chul: Most people wouldn't care if their former boss...

    Dong Hoon: She's the one who made it (possible)

    Ji An: STARES AT DONG HOON

     

    My caption for Ji An:

    1st look: "So that's the story we're going with now? Fine."

    2nd look: "I thought we were going to pretend to be strangers??"

     

     

    Hi @justamom I went to the DVD order link but I can't figure it out. Does it say if they will release it with English translations? 

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  15. You guys!!!!  I just checked out the fansite and it's so well-made!  Chock-full of snapshots and snippets and every little thing that our admins can possibly find about this beautiful drama.  I hope the director,  writer,  the whole cast get to see this site. I'm sure they would be happy to know that their hard work has paid off brilliantly.  :)

     

    Now,  about that running scene after her grandmother's funeral... I have a couple of thoughts about that but I'll put them all together first in my head. Hahaha. :D

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  16. @justamom I love and agree with a lot of the things you said,  but I will refrain from commenting until I'm done with my own rewatch.  :)

     

    Btw is it already confirmed if they will come out with an international version with English subs for everything in it including the leaflets,  photobooks,  etc? 

    I'm sorely tempted to order but the uncertainty of this holds me back. That's a lot to pay for something I can't fully appreciate. :(

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  17. 1 hour ago, justamom said:

    Just reporting in from the middle of episode 14 to say, oh my god! Park Dong Hoon! Your longing for Ji An is killing me!!!!!

     

    It feels even more intense than the first time I watched it!

     

    I’m such a mess inside!

     

    @justamom You're making me want to marathon all 16 episodes!  My reaction was bad enough when I decided to rewatch just the entirety of episode 10.  I actually felt my heart tighten and my hair stand on end while watching Ji An cry her heart out on that bridge while listening to Dong Hoon beating up Kwang Il over her.  :dissapointed_relieved:

     

    But honestly, the rewatching that we're doing right now really allows us to rediscover this drama and find all the hidden gems that the writer and director put in it. Perhaps there are even things that they aren't aware of,  some things they may have unconsciously placed or may not have been there when they initially wrote it but came out because of the way the actors decided to play their characters and the scenes.   And we get to discover them. :)

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  18. 11 hours ago, justamom said:

    I have a question.

     

    Why doesn’t Park Dong Hoon drive?

     

    (besides that we’d all get over awed by his manliness)

     

    Why did Park Hae Young make him a character that gets driven (by Yoon Hee, his co-workers)?

     

    He does drive, but off the top of my head I can only remember two scenes. The supermarket run, and Ji An to see her grandma.

     

    Any thoughts?

     

    @justamom on the surface, I think it's one of those things that Dong Hoon does for Yoon Hee out of concern and isn't it that seeing to her comfort and convenience is his way of showing he cares? May be out of practicality too. Perhaps he feels Yoon Hee needs the car more than he does because she may have meetings and trials outside the office and would require more mobility while he is more often than not office-based. On the occasional ocular inspections that he needs to do, his team drives him around. 

     

    On a personal level, I think he likes to think and sit quietly at the end of a long day.  Being a loner by nature, he probably unwinds by just staring out into space and allowing his thoughts to wander freely.  When he's commuting via train, he can do that.  I also agree with @sadiesmith that Yoon Hee might actually prefer to drive because she likes to be in control.  I think that theory is aligned with both their personalities. 

     

    However, I also got to thinking about it in the context of their marriage.  both of them might be unconsciously avoiding each other's company because they're not comfortable with each other anymore.  This is a very telling but almost unnoticeable sign of their distance.  Granted that Dong Hoon is a loner by nature and probably uses his commuting time to de-stress and unwind, but you would think Yoon Hee would be the person he would feel most comfortable with just being quiet.  And you would have expected them to look forward to being together at the end of each day.  Apparently not. 

     

    When I think about it, other couples often go to work and come home together because it allows them to have that precious bit of time to be together in the midst of their busy days.  And from the looks of it, this is something that Dong Hoon and Yoon Hee could've easily done, especially with their son being far away.  He can easily drop her off at her office and he brings the car then pick her up at the end of the day.  Or vice versa if Yoon Hee's office is farther.  And they could eat dinner outside after work.  And on those days when Dong Hoon drinks with his friends at the bar or eats dinner with his mom and brothers, Yoon Hee would've been with him.  Maybe if they had done this, Dong Hoon wouldn't have had to go to the bar every night to alleviate his boredom and Yoon Hee wouldn't have felt so lonely and isolated from him.  Because they would have been together.

     

    One of the big problems of their marriage was their lack of time for each other, which resulted in the breakdown of their communication, which effectively killed whatever love they had for each other.

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  19. I hope LJE considers theater performing.  It will be good for her I think as it will make her a more well-rounded performer.  Most of her co-actors in MA are veterans of the stage and you can really see the difference in their skill.  :)

     

    Maybe she and LSK can act on a play together.  That would be great although international audiences such as myself won't get to see it.  But still, it would be wonderful to see them reunited.  They really work well together. 

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  20. Annyeong, everyone! :)

     

    Wow. A good number of us (and a couple of new posters) are still hanging out on this thread.  It's truly a testament to the beauty and complexity of this drama that we still manage to find something to discuss despite one or two rewatch sessions. I haven't really done a full rewatch yet from the beginning to the end but only in bits and pieces.  Yet still, there are truly a lot of things in this drama that will only reveal themselves to the viewer with careful observation. The first time you see it, you're still too caught up with trying to find out what happens next that you often miss the experience.  But watching it again, you already know what's going to happen so you can immerse yourself more in the story and allow each scene to unfold slowly.  The experience becomes more of the journey and not just the ultimate destination. 

     

    I'm going to do one episode every day starting tomorrow and think about each one carefully and maybe share my thoughts with everyone here too.  :)

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  21. @timidjock0819 @mylovelystar  I've always thought of Dear Moon as both Halmoni's song of her love for the moon, and Ji An's song of her love for Dong Hoon. It's so obvious from the lyrics that it's a metaphor of her feelings for him.  To her, he's like the beautiful but unreachable moon that shines all the brighter because of her darkness.  And there was a part there when the lyrics speak of how their eyes met for the first time and his low voice spoke to her. That's very clearly Park Dong Hoon that the song is referring to. 

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  22. On 6/15/2018 at 12:42 AM, justamom said:

     

    Having just finished 5, for me Ji An fell hopelessly for him here.

     

    After the company dinner, when he suffers one indignity after another and yet doesn’t retaliate, to the extent that his colleagues are all feeling beaten down because of him.

     

    She’s started listening to him compulsively.  And she hears his long, laboured breaths.

     

    Then all goes quiet.

     

    The sound of nothing.

     

    Her face freezes. Panics. And then she breaks into a run.

     

    Love for me is when you start doing things without thinking.

     

    Because it comes straight from the gut. And you often don’t realize what it means until much later.

     

    She needs to know he’s okay. And so she runs.

     

    now I need to go watch that handshake again. 

     

     

    @justamom  Wasn't it also in episode 5 when Dong Hoon helped her to carry her grandmother?  I do agree that this episode was really the turning point for Ji An's feelings.  She truly saw the goodness in him, the humanity that she never encountered in anyone before.  And it made all the difference to her, which is why she grew to love him.  

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