[Drama 2016] Moon Lovers ❤ Scarlet Heart Ryeo, 달의 연인-보보경심 려 \^0^/ Soompi Kdrama 2016 Winner

[andy78]

We deserve at least an epilogue. WS finding Hs as he promised !Cutting the scene was such a bad idea!I'm still heartbroken but i understood Hs ...she was a mother first!She knew she was sick!Imagine that little girl trapped at palace with the snake queen as her mother?

[antiherofans]

 

20 minutes ago, fathiayunia said:

 

IS HE 20???? JUST HOW OLD IS HE??!!! AND NO!! I WON'T BELIEVE HE IS 34!!!! Hahahahaha

I'm having a mental shock seeing him looks kinda harsh and a lil bit older being Gwangjong and see this picture and his V-app. Ck. The vampire and wolfie blood is real. He never gets older. And looks totally adorkable here you just wanna put him in your pocket. LOL

And I think the man himself realize it.

 

Oh, yeah baby I'm FABULOUS..... and DELICIOUS. YEP.

 

I can't help it. I'm born this way.

 

 

Sorry to cut your post. 

Usually attention seeker like him would make the best actor/actress.

He found his passion. Lucky. 

He is older than me but look way younger. That is not fair, Joon Gi. 

I really believe he is a vampire. Don't you remember he is the Bat Man of Goryeo. Bat & Dracula together. 

Okay, now I am weird. 

NUMB NUMB NUMB NUMB

 

[andy78]

i'm reading hancinema articles

"Scarlet Heart: Ryeo" ends sadly, IU returns to reality and ends time slip

 

Spoiler

 

Lee Joon-ki and IU could never be and IU returned to the real world.

On the final episode of "Scarlet Heart: Ryeo", Hae-soo (IU) finally decided to marry Wang Jeong (Ji Soo).

Wang Jeong helped her get out of the palace to marry her. Later, it turned out that Hae-soo was pregnant with Gwang Jong's (Lee Joon-ki) child. Hae-soo didn't give up the child knowing that something might go wrong with her health.

Hae-soo knew she was going to die and she kept sending letters to Gwang Jong. However, he didn't open the letters thinking that she'd already married Wang Jeong. In the end, he only found out what truly happened after she died and he cried over her death.

Gwang Jong couldn't forget her. One day he ran into a girl walking around the palace. She was Hae-soo's child and his. Hae-soo had asked for her daughter not to be sent to the palace before she died. Wang Jeong delivered this favor. Gwang Jong permitted Wang Jeong to return home for he had taken care of Hae-soo and her child until she died.

Ji Mong (Kim Seong-gyoon) left the palace too as he couldn't get over Hae-soo. When he left, storm clouds gathered around the place and he returned to reality. Ha-jin (IU) also woke up and she cried.

Ha-jin had been dreaming for a year. Ha-jin was a cosmetics sales clerk in reality but she kept seeing scenes from her dream. She visited the museum of history and when she saw the portrait of Gwang Jong, she realized her dream was not a dream

 

Source : www.tvreport.co.kr/?c...

http://www.hancinema.net/spoiler-scarlet-heart-ryeo-ends-sadly-iu-returns-to-reality-and-ends-time-slip-100100.html

[HanCinema's Drama Review] "Scarlet Heart: Ryeo" Episode 20 Final

 

Spoiler

 

At long last, Soo has left the palace. From there she...hangs out at a new house for awhile, enjoys some flashbacks, and then dies while King Gwangjong sulks like a grumpy teenager. Hilariously bad communication brings everything to an unnecessarily tragic end. Last-minute revelations end up affecting pretty much nothing, since the extended epilogue is just more flashbacks set to sad music. In short, this is about everything we could have reasonably expected from the finale of "Scarlet Heart: Ryeo".

If I have to pick any one big disappointment in this drama, it would be Prince So. In early episodes he was brutal, yet competent and determined. A clear compelling argument could be made that Prince So was the prince who should be king. Yet as time went on, and especially when Prince So finally became King Gwangjong, he never actually did anything. As King Gwangjong, Prince So actually managed to obsess more about Soo than he used to, even though the man had vastly more critical covereign reponsibilities.

Prince Wook also stands out as a character who really got the shaft. We got an impressive turnaround at the midway point where Prince Wook took on some darker qualities in the name of ambition, yet by the end Prince Wook is so completely out of the loop on the latest royal conspiracies that he legitimately looks baffled upon being informed that in the long run his victory is assured. After all, there is no sunshine in the world anymore now that Soo is gone, so why bother trying?

Soo is...well, while I didn't really dislike her in the end as much as I was expecting, I'm continuously struck by how she has never had any sort of real overarching goal. One episode she backs off from Prince So completely, the next she's head over heels, and I swear it feels like this happens every single episode. Their relationship has no stability or growth, so there's no particular impetus for it to continue save for inertia and nostalgia.

Which is a pretty accurate summation, I think, of "Scarlet Heart: Ryeo" as a whole. The only way I can make sense of the plot is to remind myself that the original Chinese version was forty episodes long and presumably had enough time to flesh out the various storylines. Although even that's no excuse for the drama to rely so excessively on flashback. This is what unearned catharsis looks like, and it's why "Scarlet Heart: Ryeo" is such a disappointment.

 

 

Review by William Schwartz

http://www.hancinema.net/hancinema-s-drama-review-scarlet-heart-ryeo-episode-20-final-100099.html

i feel so sad ...i will need some more time to get over HS and WS story

 

[lilac_alex]

3 hours ago, rainy_xiaou said:

Seriously, the final episode really made me in tears. It feels like I understand how Hae Soo and Wang So feelings for each other. I think it was a beautiful ending, because their love was immortal. But, I couldn't understand, why Ji Mong left out from the palace? And after he walked out, the eclipse was happened. Was it a coicindence?

 

 

[Evangeline Yang]

Just a head up for the rating of Moon Lovers.

The source from Baidu:

集数	播出日期	AGB全国	AGB首尔	TNmS全国	TNmS首尔
01	2016/08/29	7.4%	8.0%	7.9%	9.1%
02	2016/08/29	9.3%	10.4%	8.9%	10.0%
03	2016/08/30	7.0%	8.0%	7.1%	7.8%
04	2016/09/05	5.7%	6.9%	6.1%	7.3%
05	2016/09/06	6.0%	7.3%	6.2%	6.8%
06	2016/09/12	5.7%	6.8%	5.1%	7.7%
07	2016/09/13	5.8%	6.6%	5.2%	6.4%
08	2016/09/19	6.9%	8.6%	5.3%	5.8%
09	2016/09/20	6.2%	7.9%	6.1%	6.4%
10	2016/09/26	7.1%	8.2%	6.4%	7.4%
11	2016/09/27	7.5%	8.5%	6.5%	6.7%
12	2016/10/03	7.9%	8.8%	6.8%	7.1%
13	2016/10/04	8.2%	9.3%	7.3%	7.5%
14	2016/10/10	6.8%	7.5%	6.5%	7.0%
15	2016/10/11	8.2%	9.2%	8.7%	9.2%
16	2016/10/18	5.9%	6.8%	5.8%	6.2%
17	2016/10/24	9.8%	10.6%	9.9%	10.6%
18	2016/10/25	10.1%	11.2%	10.7%	10.6%
19	2016/10/31	9.0%	9.8%	9.0%	10.1%
20	2016/11/01	11.3%	12.2%	10.8%	11.8%
-	平均收视	7.59%	8.63%	7.32%	8.08%

I am really very proud of how far we have come... From low rating to a decent 2 digit ratings. 

 

Have a nice day Eclipes!!!

[penelop3]

I've read posts in random of Soompiers accepting the ending. Too bad I cannot say the same, YET. 
I can see the beauty of the last scenes, the part where So wiped out his makeup, his declaration to find Soo, the reminiscence of So and Soo which leads to lovely piggyback scene. Those parts, yes it's beautiful and heartbreaking. 
But.. why do I still have the feeling that I'm being deluded here. I've repeated the scene where Soo is crying in front of the painting, my heart goes out for her. She has suffered so much and fate has not been kind. 

I've watched tragic endings from The Legend of Sampek Engtay (yes ol school ), The English Patient (again ol school) to Me Before You. But nothing prepares me for this one. Hiks. 

@itzibitzispider @antiherofans Dementor? Yes.. I'm probably one of their victims. 
UGH... How can I get rid of this queasy feeling, I've been feeling that the whole day. I guess I'm still having the withdrawal symptoms. 

[tinniet]

One question is still bothering me: when did Soo exactly realize that she was pregnant? And since when her action was driven by this knowledge ? Is it before or after CR's death? The writer did a good job in misleading us about Soo that most of us despised her action towards So. But now that we know the reason was her baby, the question is when? Can we take that Soo actually accepted So's reason for killing CR right away and her plea for Jung and the rest of her action were solely for saving her baby? 

[shairli]

17 hours ago, lazyme2day said:

...Wow! That was just...(shakes head)

I need something to smash onto the ground to take my frustration out. WTH???? To be honest, I am not satisfied with this ending! [I need to breathe...] WTH??? As much as the production team tried to give us both Wang So and HaeSoo scene together, that just won't do! Screw Jimong!! He took Wang So's screen time with HaeSoo in the present day!!! AISH!!! #@$^&&*^*^

Agreed... why JiMong? He didnt even play a big role in contributing anything for Goryeo? He even left KGJ!..

[40somethingahjumma]

Speaking of babies, my babies were born with a full set of hair which they never completely lost. I don't think any film or television show I've ever seen ever really features a newborn. If they do, it's very rare. My obstetrician also told me that 39 weeks is really about averages. Not everyone has their babies exactly at 39 weeks. But anything from around 37-42 weeks is considered acceptable. I'm no expert and my memory isn't the most reliable but that's what I seem to remember.

The more I think about the daughter, the more I like her insertion. Not only did Su leave behind something of herself in Goryeo but it solidifies in our mind that she did love So and completely gave herself over to him. It's important that she carried the child to term despite her poor health makes it all the more poignant. And if there have been any doubts about misc doings in the dark when the candle flickered out, well, doubt no more.  The child is her legacy and a perpetual reminder of her love for So.

About Ji Mong:

Someone asked about Ji Mong earlier. About who he is and what his role in this drama is. As he himself said in Ep. 8, he is the set-up guy. He sets up situations but he doesn't necessarily make things happen per se. I imagine that it was he who brought GHJ to Goryeo as Hae Su in order to help put Wang So on the throne and then afterwards take her back.He also set up So to be the Crown Prince's backup at the rain offering ritual. There's an attractive theory that I read on another site that it's JM who set up the museum exhibit on Goryeo cosmetics and put those paintings up deliberately to try and get Su to remember so that she can rendezvous with So when he hops onto the next eclipse. Sounds plausible in a timey wimey ML sort of way. It sort of reminds me of how inter-dimensional time travel works in the Chronicles of Narnia. Time passes by more quickly on one side than the other. But like LJG, GJ never seems to age much,  maybe it's the preservatives in the Goryeo BB cream. 

Anyhow if we see Ji Mong as THE set up guy, then that theory does make a lot of sense.

[fragglerock]

While i still disliked the series and especially the ending the chemistry between the main characters I didnt mind, the last episode was a reward in a way away from the violence to highlight there love (too little to late for me in amongst all the back n forth going on).

My only reward from it is the powerful episode when he barges through the doors to see her after getting the letters too late.  I was grateful he had nothing to do with her death, and bittersweet but just me was that her husband actually screwed up with the letters and had he of not done that they would of at least got to say farewell together.

She may of ended up with the nicest and calmest prince in the end and sure the king gave her her freedom at the end stopped watching the house even to let her live her life.  Although no one should be to blame part of me is grateful that the king was not to blame that her husband was in a way.  That part broke my heart watching him ripped apart as he walked out with the urn.

[penforella]

56 minutes ago, itzibitzispider said:

Waking up ... I can rely on @antiherofans Dementor feeling ... strange ...empty ... just a drama ... still ... *sniff*

I woke up thinking "Why didn't Jung write "from HaeSoo" on the letter ... but would GJ not have thought "he uses her name to get complains in"?
Why did BA never visit? He was her friend and drinking buddy ... he could have reported, even thought GJ didn't want any reports

Way to many questions

 

Trust me the only reason the letter fiasco happened is because that's what happened in the C-BBJX, no deep meaning or logic in that, they follow it to make sure So never read Soo letter before she passed away.

[ohgee]

34 minutes ago, tinniet said:

One question is still bothering me: when did Soo exactly realize that she was pregnant? And since when her action was driven by this knowledge ? Is it before or after CR's death? The writer did a good job in misleading us about Soo that most of us despised her action towards So. But now that we know the reason was her baby, the question is when? Can we take that Soo actually accepted So's reason for killing CR right away and her plea for Jung and the rest of her action were solely for saving her baby? 

I feel like the pregnancy plot was a last minute decision by the writer cause no matter how many times I rewatch episode 19 her actions don't look influenced by the fact she's pregnant, to me she still left cause she felt suffocated. DAMN THE WRITER AND MAKING US SPECULATE, GIVE US A CLEAR ANSWER FOR ONCE DONT MAKE US GUESS.

[andy78]

I'M FINALLY READING

Moon Lovers: Scarlet Heart Ryeo: Episode 20 (Final)

by HeadsNo2 | November 1, 2016 |

We must not have wished hard enough for an ending that would magically solve the issues endemic to this production, since I can think of no other reason why this happened. It could’ve been worse (they all can be worse), but it’s certainly not what we would’ve hoped to see at the end of this sometimes rewarding, sometimes grueling journey through a modern girl’s integration into a time far from her own. Which leaves us to wonder, was it all about love? Altering history? Fate working in very mysterious ways? Who knows. …No, really, does anyone know?

FINAL EPISODE RECAP

  READ MORE IF YOU HAVE NOT YET

http://www.dramabeans.com/2016/11/moon-lovers-scarlet-heart-ryeo-episode-20-final/

THERE ARE SOME INTERESTING POSTS THERE

469 Comments ...WOW!

[outofspace]

For anyone that's interested, I wrote a fanfic. I guess I have to thank ML and the wonderful fandom that came with it for inspiring me to write again after a long time. XD

It's available here. <3

[ladywhiskers]

1 hour ago, wenlhy said:

Is it shown in sbs version?

About the temples or his daughter? If about the temples, I read it in the history of Gwangjeong. That he killed so many people in the first years to stabilize the kingdom and then devoted himself to religion by building temples/shrines and praying in the later half. There is no explanation of his action though, that's why they said, he seems to redeem himself for his past actions. 

[WeunXK]

 

IU posted another photo with Ha Seo daughter

 

Their daughter

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[sandjh]

So I watched the last ep...I'm 50/50 not completely sad nor completely happy

I don't understand why they left it with this open ending (if this is really the end of the series) and all this emphasis of dialogue from multiple characters saying, 'If this was another time/word...etc' 

Especially with Wang So's line:

If we are not from the same world...

I will find you,

My...Soo.

Please find her WS

They need to finish it off with a special ep or just something....

 

I really like WS and HS...they're exceptionally loyal to each other 

[keiko9]

Hi there,

I have a few things to say

- remember when WS said he wanted a kid with HS? well, I guess he got his wish. lol (even though he can't raise the child as his own)

- if they were giving us a scene where WS see his daughter for the first time, then at least make him more emotional when he realize that the little girl was his and HS daughter. I'm 99% certain that WS knows that it's his daughter. also, can't they at least let us know the little girl name and age.

- in the chinese version Ruoxi has a miscarriage when she found out she was the cause of the princes conflict because she warned 8th prince to be careful of 4th prince. However, when Hae Su realized she was to blame, she didn't collapse or fainted. I'm pretty sure HS knows that she was pregnant at that time because when she married the 14th prince Jung, she must be 2-3 month pregnant already. Anyway,  I'm glad HS didn't have the miscarriage and gave birth to her daughter safety.

- I might be in the minority on this but I quite like the open ending for this drama. Of course, it's not a happy ending but I didn't expect it to be because it was an adaption from the chinese novel and I know how sad it is. But as I watch the episodes and read the comments in this forum, I keep thinking to myself  "they say it's an adaption of the novel, but the story of our OTP is very different. I hope they will come up with a different ending for our pairing as well." I didn't get my wish exactly, but I can live with that.

 

- To be honest, I never experience such a great depression after watching a drama. This is the first time for me. From the beginning, I knew the ending can't be good because it was an adaption of the novel, and so I try to enjoy all of the happy going moments and cherish all of Wang So and Hae Su interaction, not just their romantic time, all of the time when they were seen together even before they become a couple. 

- For the last 2 months, I was obsess with Moon Lovers. I would read other people analysis and comments. Wang So character was so complex that I can't fully understand him without reading the detail analysis. Thank you for that. It's not my first time watching an anti-hero, but there is something about Wang So character that really intrigued me (maybe it's the mask lol), especially his love for Hae Su. Plus the actor LJK really brought the character to life. He was awesome.

- my major complain about this drama are the poor pacing and editing. I mean, if the drama was pre-produced, I would think they should have known better. there's only 20 episodes and they spend episode 1-11 as a normal/slow pace, while episode 17-20 was super fast pace. No matter how much I love Moon Lovers, I still feel that the ending was too rushed. It's too bad the drama couldn't have more than 20 episodes. Maybe if they have 2 or more episodes, then the flow of the drama towards the end would be this bad. I hope they learn a lesson from this and do better next time.

- Overall, I enjoy watching Moon Lovers. It is a epic love story that I will remember and rewatch many time even after it's done airing. 

[jentayue]

1 love the ending... the rest i can imagine my self...hhhh...

[glacial]

For those confused, Soo was told about her baby when the doctor first checked her in the palace I think which is why when Wang Jung called for a doctor to check on her, she was nervous and she didn't want to get a check up, eventually he was shocked too that she's pregnant, the doctor couldn't feel the baby's pulse before because the pregnancy just happened but now it mustve been 2 months since then so he can already tell the baby is there. -- at one point i wondered if she had been honest to wang so that she wants  to leave because of their baby and doesn't want to raise the kid in the palace and endanger it, maybe he would've understood and agreed. But then I realized, the old wang so would've understood, but gwangjong would've been like possessive about the child also and probably would never let her and the kid leave which is why she did what she did and overplayed CR's death and all.