[Drama 2016] Moon Lovers ❤ Scarlet Heart Ryeo, 달의 연인-보보경심 려 \^0^/ Soompi Kdrama 2016 Winner

[shairli]

Thanks @MAROSA_JIN You make my life complete with all those great pics... esp the above... I almost jumping up & down (in office at my workstation!!!)

[SizzlerZ]

How long is SBS going to release stills for? I would've expected them to stop since the show has finished...

Not that I'm complaining but does someone know when they're going to stop coming?

[antiherofans]

11 minutes ago, 40somethingahjumma said:

I'm not sure if anyone is interested in reading anymore  analysis of the show now that it's all over. I can see that many of us are suffering withdrawals to some degree or another. I don't know how many times I've watched the entire sequence starting from when So finds out that Su's dead to when he takes her ashes back to the prayer pagoda. The angst.. the sobbing... I just can't get enough of it. Honestly, I wish we had more. I know I'm practically insane... and I must be because I walked into a popular drama blog and 80% of the comments told me that this drama was rubbish. 

But I'm itching to say a few things about OTP's deteriorating relationship in Ep. 19. Probably not the best thing to be discussing right now... seeing what the mood's like.

Just watching Ep. 19 again for the fine detail on a textual level and I'm amazed at how much of their personalities and interpersonal issues the writer packed in for those two early scenes they had together. Episode 19 was very rushed and I missed the detail in some key moments that demonstrated how much was So talking past Su in such a deliberate fashion. It's absolutely textbook Relationship Disaster 101. The insight that the writer has over how couple communication breaks down is absolutely spot on.

The first scene:

 

The second scene:

 

I don't know about anyone else but it does feel to me that So is riding roughshod over her or what? I know he's terrified of losing her and LJG does a great job of displaying the right amount of desperation here but he's deliberately ignoring her. Or what she wants. His first instinct is about what he wants. Notice he never asks her why she wants to leave which would be the logical question to follow up her plea with. All he does is skirt the issue, appeal to her emotions, downplay their problems and gloss over her fears. It's as if he's saying to her, "Everything is going to be fine. Everything will be fine if we just stop arguing."

Personally I think it's just brilliant. I think he has more than an inkling as to why she wants to leave and in his heart of hearts, he knows she has justification. But he's can feel the drift and he's clutching, grasping for dear life. Appealing to the one thing he hopes still tethers them together. Her love for him.

However they both have very different ideas of how to hang on to that love and since So isn't listening, she has a hard time explaining. I realise that one of the complaints coming out of Ep. 19 is that the writer should have given the viewer more insight into Su's inner life. But maybe what we've presented here is that Su wasn't even given the chance to explain even when she tried. The King used his power and his strength to shut her down before she could reach the man inside the King. He assumes, like the audience assumes, that it's about trust and it's about not having the status. He assumes a lot but he's too afraid to actually ask why.

There's no doubt So is a pitiful character having experienced so little love but he's smothering her and he's trying to put out bush fires here without coming to grips with what's causing them. The thing is, love needs to be nurtured. I don't entirely blame him for not knowing very well how to do this as he didn't experience love himself growing up. The only kind of love he knows how to give is the imposition of his will. This is the reason why Jeong is the prince to take Su through the last leg of her journey because he did experience genuine love growing up. His mother really did dote on him and showered him with her love so he's never lacked any of it in that department and can give it freely. However, the great and wonderful irony about that is that he couldn't receive love from Su because she had already given it all to the brother who didn't get any from his mother.

Who says life isn't fair?

Lady O was such a perceptive woman. She truly understood how the men in the palace were. She told Su that being trapped between the princes (4 and 8 specifically) would destroy her and she also told her that people don't change people. She also said that palace men are cowards when it comes to the throne. And she was absolutely right on ALL counts. 

Yeah, just keep telling me the writing is bad. Maybe one day I'll believe it.

 

I agree with you. I have to say thank you for writing this. It is nice to read something positive about this drama. I am kind of sick reading another forum keep bashing MLSHR like it is the worst drama ever made. Sorry for the rant, I am in my lowest energy level right now . 

All I can say is Wang So behave like a man. They never listen  (again, so sorry for all men here).

[penforella]

@40somethingahjumma keep them coming, I love reading them. I agree with you, So just want to bury the problem and move on. I know a lot of people is being hard on Soo because she's not "understanding" enough. Soo is 21st century girl, killing Chae Ryung might have been something trivial during that time period but not for her. I think she loves So as much as she possibly can, anyone think otherwise can sue me.

[IAmSoulReader]

On 11/2/2016 at 10:43 PM, staygold said:

 We encourage all kinds of creative processes as long as Jimong is not the lead!!! 

 

Don't worry, dear! Jimong will not be in the center of my ending version at all. 
I should finish writing it sometime today or tomorrow at latest. You can expect the update soon!

[andy78]

thank you so much for those photos @MAROSA_JIN

 

 

 

 so perfect!!!the best ones...i can't stop my tears....i want that cut scene so much!

 

[junejungki]

18 hours ago, akinahana89 said:

 

Yes!!!! it works!!! I badly need help. I took my afternoon nap today. For about an hour. I dream about Wang So, Hae Soo, Wang Wook, Baek Ah, Wang Jung in modern time. HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@penelop3 @antiherofans@Gabi Bros @qwenli

 

[40somethingahjumma]

14 minutes ago, antiherofans said:

 

I agree with you. I have to say thank you for writing this. It is nice to read something positive about this drama. I am kind of sick reading another forum keep bashing MLSHR like it is the worst drama ever made. Sorry for the rant, I am in my lowest energy level right now . 

All I can say is Wang So behave like a man. They never listen  (again, so sorry for all men here).

LOL! Thank you for the laugh! Can't disagree with you there. Even when they apparently listen, they don't remember what you've said either.

But I think So did hear her but he was trying to shut her down fast so that he didn't have to listen to the rest of it.

@penforella -- Su can definitely do with all the support she can get. Thanks for reading.

@stevii -- thanks for putting me onto Overthinking Kdramas. The owner of that blog seems to be kindred spirit or a thought twin. While I was reading through that latest post, I was thinking to myself, "Wow, somebody else gets it!" Judging from the rest of the content, we seem to have similar taste in dramas as well.

@MAROSA_JIN -- Thank you for posting those pics. I adore them. I'm going to snaffle them for my collection. Who says they have no chemistry?

[junejungki]

16 hours ago, MAROSA_JIN said:

 

 

  

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I love the way Jun Ki bites his lips and look around before he piggy back Hae Soo. So sexy 

[antiherofans]

3 minutes ago, junejungki said:

Yes!!!! it works!!! I badly need help. I took my afternoon today. For about an hour. I dream about Wang So, Hae Soo, Wang Wook, Baek Ah, Wang Jung in modern time. HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@penelop3 @antiherofans@Gabi Bros @qwenli

 

 

Please don't tell me their gonna endure more tragedies in modern time. I am exhausted because of that. 

[penforella]

27 minutes ago, antiherofans said:

 

I agree with you. I have to say thank you for writing this. It is nice to read something positive about this drama. I am kind of sick reading another forum keep bashing MLSHR like it is the worst drama ever made. Sorry for the rant, I am in my lowest energy level right now . 

All I can say is Wang So behave like a man. They never listen  (again, so sorry for all men here).

 

Me too. What's with all the negativity. I'll never say it's flawless but still why all the hate people? and since it continue on week by week, why are these people still watching, and to those people sneering but not watching, why are you even commenting? freedom of speech I guess. Sorry for the rant as well.

[antiherofans]

4 minutes ago, 40somethingahjumma said:

LOL! Thank you for the laugh! Can't disagree with you there. Even when they apparently listen, they don't remember what you've said either.

But I think So did hear her but he was trying to shut her down fast so that he didn't have to listen to the rest of it.

@penforella -- Su can definitely do with all the support she can get. Thanks for reading.

@stevii -- thanks for putting me onto Overthinking Kdramas. The owner of that blog seems to be kindred spirit or a thought twin. While I was reading through that latest post, I was thinking to myself, "Wow, somebody else gets it!" Judging from the rest of the content, we seem to have similar taste in dramas as well.

@MAROSA_JIN -- Thank you for posting those pics. I adore them. I'm going to snaffle them for my collection. Who says they have no chemistry?

 

LOL, true 

[junejungki]

2 hours ago, shairli said:

Open ending ... too many oppas to choose too.  Though I'm sure we'll make the right choice

My pick?? LJG of course!!!

[jerboa83]

 

[hobeverly1212]

PD NOTES!

http://program.sbs.co.kr/pdNote/pdNoteEnd.do?pgm_id=22000009610&pgm_mnu_id=44095&pgm_build_id=17623&noteCode=nt_10000028101&noteId=10000056169

 

[antiherofans]

1 minute ago, penforella said:

 

Me too. What's with all the negativity. I'll never say it's flawless but still why all the hate people? and since it continue on week by week, why are these people still watching, and to those people sneering but not watching, why are you even commenting? freedom of speech I guess. Sorry for the rant as well.

 

Yup, my point exactly. Maybe because of big budget thing. Some people hate it when you show you have money. People will pick on you. MLSHR should have act as underdog. People always root for the underdog. 

[Sharine Phinisia]

OneTV's countdown clock. today is friday so next episode premieres in... monday?

Not the encore for sure. The encore will be in sunday.

Is the admin of the site simply forgot to put out the clock? or the clock just gone cuckoo? Or am I going cuckoo?

dammit! now I'm------ 

[Jemara]

 

 

 

[penforella]

6 minutes ago, hobeverly1212 said:

PD NOTES!

http://program.sbs.co.kr/pdNote/pdNoteEnd.do?pgm_id=22000009610&pgm_mnu_id=44095&pgm_build_id=17623&noteCode=nt_10000028101&noteId=10000056169

 

 

Is the PD saying he doesn't regret the open ending? He must get a lot of backlash to be saying that.

[ohgee]

i know this is irrelevant but does KHN have one big eye and one small eye cause thats what it looks like here: