[Drama 2016] Moon Lovers ❤ Scarlet Heart Ryeo, 달의 연인-보보경심 려 \^0^/ Soompi Kdrama 2016 Winner

[junejungki]

2 minutes ago, moonlover399993 said:

OMG! HAHA! I would really want to see that message, haha. Wonder if he'll answer by showing a pic or a spoiler of something happy??

I dont think he will read my message but I posted it anyway. After several minutes my message drown in thousand other messages

[winwin12]

Can I wish for a happy ending for them  I am not ready if they have same ending as c-version 

[zi4r]

@isengdoang, @kdramawriter, @antiherofans Thanks for your kind words.

But can you all please don't quote images? I feel bad for the mods.

Thank you!

 

P.S. Sorry @LyraYoo

[junee22]

Hi all!!So we've finished @akinahana89 project..but I don't know where to post it..anyone can help me? Thank you friends

[valsava]

1 hour ago, runitaaa said:

I've said it to my self to stop opening this forum but here I am, back again to rant out my frustration.

My question for today is : Why can't Gwangjong marries both Soo and Yeon Hwa?? King Taejo marries 29 (CMIIW) equal footing queen! That's why Queen SMS always feel threatened by Queen Yoo, right? That's what the special episode said! All queen(s) of Tae Jo have the same equal footing and their first born have the same right to be crown prince. Why it's not the case here? Gwangjong can make Soo his first queen and let Yeon Hwa be is second (or third, I really don't care). All the clan want only for Yeon Hwa to be queen, it shouldn't bother them if she's not THE ONLY queen of Goryeo, right? This drama really messed up my mind!

@runitaaa   My bsd for answering this question if after someone already has..

Gwangjon can marry them both but being that YH is of royal blood she would be made queen and Hs his concubine Ws knows how much YH hates Hs and if she was to become pregnant first YH wil try and kill her and the child.. YH being the Queen is very dangerous to HS because there will be no if's ands or butss about her can't wait to get rid of her after riding her like a hebrew slave for her pleasures.. 

1 hour ago, violet90 said:

this misunderstanding is one of thing that i hoping won't happen in here but based on preview they are going to BBJX road as for their separation... when So tell Soo that he will never see her again for me its a death sentenced for Su in so many way.. yes she is leaving but now she leave because she THINK that there is no place anymore in So heart and this one will make her suffer much more than she already are...

@violet90  This writer has been so creative with this remake I was hoping to see something different when she separated the two but to go this route I'm also not liking, OH my bad sorry to cut your post..

 

[stevii]

3 minutes ago, junee22 said:

Hi all!!So we've finished @akinahana89 project..but I don't know where to post it..anyone can help me? Thank you friends

look at page 1, she provided her twitter and email

[arabela]

WS DOESNT KNOW IN THIS EPISODE ABOUT HS RELATION WITH WW, NOR ABOUT HER WISH TO LEAVE HIM, AND ALSO HE IS DRUNK AND LONGING FOR HS AND FOR HER FORGIVNESS HE IS SO ABLE TO NEGOCIATE WITH YH IN ORDER TO PULL DOWN WW ( WHO AS THIS MOMENT IS NOT EVEN BLAMED FOR STEALING HS FIRST) . So we can see that WS doesn't need to know about HS relation with WW nor doesn't need to know she hasn't forgive him, to be able to sleep with YH and make a child with her, just to be able to put down and punish a man who threat him, put him in a corner and can be dangerous in the future for him and his throne  ---- so this is the moment when he already made his decision to put the throne and his anger, revenge against his love for HS and against his fear of losing her  .... in this moment he  knows HS is mad on him, he is really afraid of her thinking about him  as a monster, know what HS sacrifice for him, but ,also he is drunk, he choose the protecting the his throne and punishing WW ..... so for me he already made a choice about what is more important  for him ....like his father is the  throne , not the woman he so  much loves  and not his so deep need for her  .....maybe once he could get injured because of her and maybe he can still put his own life at risk, but not the throne .......not matter how much he need her , her love, her comfort, her forgiveness, he is choosing like a king, not like a simple man .... keeping the throne safe is more important than his own heart ,and in this moment I think everybody already knows it ....  HS, YH, WW, BA

[ChewyChocolate]

Wook: You need to marry.

GJ: Shut up.

Wook: You can't marry Soo. She has a scar.

GJ: Shut up.

Wook: You could marry YH. She's from a powerful clan.

GJ: Shut up.

Wook: Or you could marry someone else.

GJ: Huh? 

Wook: Me.

GJ: What????

Wook: I don't have a scar, I'm from a powerful clan. I can't be king. So I might as well be queen.

GJ: OMG.

Wook: I look at you with half-closed eyes.

GJ: Shut up.

Wook: My eyes close automatically at your hotness.I have to force them to open. It's really hard.

GJ: Guards!!!! Arrest this madman!!!!

 

 

 

[riuenu]

3 minutes ago, Evangeline Yang said:

 Yup, I only find the C version in the middle very draggy but I really enjoyed the OTP before the steaming of Yutan's part because that steaming really turns me off. For days I can't see steam buns the same anymore some more her eyes... Ewwww can remember she was steamed with eyes open. Anyway, at least OTP part, the female lead learn to let go a bit and tell the male lead she was from future before she went away when the 4th was very hurt and all these was a good build up. Very emotional and can feel how dysfunctional the whole relationship was. But this K-drama? Director killed our OTP. I think actually they wanna showed how So changed the moment Eun died but those stupid time jump has wasted all these build up. Like from the time So told Soo he wanted the throne and then the live recap someone said the next moment is 1 yr already. What happened in that one yr. Even before that when Eun died and So leave the capital, that 2 years what really happened?

 

In C version, they at least explained what happened during the time jump. But K version cut everything. Awwwww Director and Editor, you are on my hit list! If this drama was by KBS, somehow I feel the outcome will be diff. Just compare it with another hit pre-production drama which SBS rejected and ended in KBS. I was trying so hard to argue with my friend about SBS and KBS and he has not watch ML and he told me not his cup of tea but he was comparing that drama with ML. I was so upset. Truly upset. =( Until I told him I feel so stupid because the end of the day he insulted our Joongi as well because he trying to compare that preproduction drama rating with ML rating and I really wish I can slay him like how Wang So slew the monks. =( End of ranting.

hahahahaha, ya, I remember we were talking about the steam bun, and yes, I looking at steam bun differently now..but at least, I dun avoid it anymore, thankfully, CR isnt been steam, if not I will avoid steaming stuff for another half a year..but evil me I know, I hope that Won will be boiled like what Jimong had mentioned, boiled alive..but just dont show us and briefly bring it over..

Yup, writer nim done too much time jump without much explanation..it is very confusing to be frank..lucky I am in this forum with so many wonderful people to analysis the scene...if not, I will scratch and pull my hair till I become balding seriously the time jump make me wanna whack the writer already...we have at least 4 unexplained time jump right.

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I know why u were saying about if it is with KBS..it might be different...and I know which drama you are talking about, yes, to be frank DOTS editing is much better as compared to MLSHR...I can say that, it is near to prefect...SBS screw up big time really, tho they edit it better in the 2nd round, as compared to the one that had been sold internationally...

Dont be upset chingu yah....so many of us are here with you, your friend just out to make u angry on the rating..we know it that the rating for ML is top internationally...I happen to meet up with my Korean friend during my overseas trip, she was saying most of the youngster doesnt have TV or doesnt watch from TV when MLSHR air, they stream it online just like us, and online streaming doesnt count to part of the TV rating..she is watching it live using streaming and her friend as well...so the rating is unfair actually...with smart phone and smart device like iPad and tablet now, they will do live streaming using that at cafe or on the way home...plus she mention, this is their exam period as well, and that explain the not so good rating even another drama ended.

I believe u are slay that friend of yours in your heart more than a thousand times right, hahahahaha, please add me in the picture to slay him with you kekekekekekek

[40somethingahjumma]

I am going to try and do something impossible here and commend both Su and So for their efforts to stay together for as long as possible despite the odds. We've had our outpouring of grief but I want to take a different approach.

In Ep. 18, they're both exhausted from having to deal with all the rubbish that have been thrown their way. With barely a chance to enjoy anytime together, they are forced through circumstances over and over again to protect each other and in so doing... inadvertently break their promises to each other.

The assault from all sides is relentless... whatever vision So had for the future as King has to be put on hold because the first thing his mother does is question his authority and then what the Horrible Hwangbos do is attack his relationship with Su. Truly the last refuge of scoundrel Uk... reverting to his continuing default position. (Apparently he's intelligent but not original.) Each party brings the weight of the clans to bear so that no one participates in court proceedings.

So desperately wants to hold on to Su so he won't move an inch regarding marrying Yeon Hwa. In his mind he's already let her down having to marry King Mu's little girl so this time, he's holding fast. But the political class is squeezing him to the point that even Ji Mong has to take Su aside and have a quiet chat with her. She hears him out and sees the sense of what he's saying. 

She encourages him to marry Yeon Hwa (as I expected she she would) because she loves him that much that she wants him to succeed as King. This compromises her stance on marrying for political expediency and being with a man that she has to wait around for all day for because of his expanding harem (something she said to Eun). So is angry with the absurdity of the situation that even when he's become King, he is still powerless to protect the woman he loves, the woman he really wants to marry. Once again she's being used as leverage to torment him.

The Hwangbos really go all out to back him into a corner. Unfortunately for them, So's no pushover. He starts investigating King Mu's poisoning on the side. He's already had suspicions about Uk and Won's involvement so it's not hard to put the squeeze on the weasly Won to get a confession from him. CR's involvement comes up and of course since she was involved in treason, death is the only logical outcome. Although really Won and Uk should have been tarred, feathered and keelhauled too. But I'm sure they'll get their comeuppance soon enough.

He marries YH despite grave misgivings but he is infuriated at having to let Su down yet again. He's disappointed that he couldn't give her the one thing she probably wanted most from him. That final seal on that monogamous relationship that would legitimize their relationship to the world and highlight their commitment to each other.

Su finds out she's quite ill, probably with not a lot of time left to live. Babies might not be on the cards anyway because of her failing health which seems to be deteriorating with every crisis that occurs as well as having to contend with an angry and frustrated lover who is more King than lover these days. By the time the CR reveal comes to light, she's completely wiped. Mentally, emotionally she's had it.

While investigating who's been trying keep them apart, So realises that Uk has been the mastermind behind various incidents. I imagine that's why he's going after Uk next. And so he should.

I'm also now wondering if So is angry with Su (in the next episode preview) for not telling him about Uk not just because of jealousy but because Uk's been actively undermining So and Su's relationship even as far back as King Mu's reign. So would have been better equipped to handle him if he (So) had known about their relationship. Just a thought.

I thought it was appropriate for So to give YH the ultimatum in the way that he did. I thought it was a fine strategy as far she was concerned. Will she throw her brother under the bus to get what she wants? He would give her a son if she handed Uk over on a platter but if she was loyal to her brother, she'd at the very least think twice about nagging him about an heir. Divide and conquer. Why not? It's Uk's ongoing strategy, why not do the same here? But So knows where to hit her where it gets the most reaction. Her ambition and her regard for him.

Almost everything that So did in this episode was to try and work out who has been undermining the throne since Taejo's time. It's a thankless task but it had to be done. He sent Jeong away... practically to save his life lest he or someone in the Jungju clan be tempted to set him up as a contender for the throne. Mum gets sick and So gets the last laugh. But she's now no longer any kind of threat. 

As King, So has to make these threat assessments... that's his job and that's how he has to see every single person including family members. Su, on the other hand, is still all about relationships. That's her worldview... they're people not liabilities. 

I imagine So's doing everything he can to ensure that there are no more surprises along the way to consolidate his power so that he can protect the woman he loves and he doesn't have to "force" her to compromise for him again. 

Su is trying to (as some people have said here) protect his humanity so that the throne doesn't gobble the man that sits in it. She knows it's a huge burden and it's hard to have to set aside his pride to marry YH and she knows as least partly it's for her sake. But she doesn't want him to lose himself because he is so busy trying to protect her that he also loses sight of the people around him.

Therefore the question isn't that they don't love each other or who loves the other more etc. They both love greatly but they both love differently. 

However, this love... as I've said many posts ago, is inherently explosive... it can't be sustained in Goryeo because the political climate doesn't allow for it. But the sovereignty of fate (or whatever you want to call it), as it were has allowed it to occur for a time in order that certain things can fall into place.

 

 

 

Okay... I need to attend to real life things now. ML has claimed too much of my day as it is.

Thanks to everyone who read and responded to my long post earlier to day. I'm so glad that it resonated with so many. 

 

 

[imaginary24]

39 minutes ago, Yippeuni said:

I'm planning to make a project different than @akinahana89, hers is so awesome project really thanked her for creating the project. And I want to do something more simple....Next week during the finale can we all send many IG comments on LJG instagram using the same hashtag so he will notice. 

It will be great if the hashtag is the short quote of his lines in this drama...like example my propose is "You are my person" 

Can you all give ideas on what the catchy phrase to be used in the hashtag so it will catch his attention??

Even Hae Soo screwed his life in Goryeo I plan to make him a happiest man that day...LOL

Count me in chingu! 

[moonangelcake]

Whoa, lots of pages to read! Okay, I just came from watching episode 18 and now I'm emotionally unstable!! Once again, I tried my best to prepare my heart for this episode BUT NOPE, STILL COULDN'T ENDURE IT (episode 19 and 20..oh nooooooo how emotional would they be?!?!?)

My thoughts

• I can clearly see that Soo's health is becoming worse... oh nononono (well then again, it might be good as it's her way out of getting out of this crazy Goryeo place, but good for our otp? NOPE)
• I can clearly see that the throne is starting to change So... oh nooooooo, it's like Lady Oh warned her
• THE MASK SCENEEEEEEEE YEAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!!!!!  That date is sooo cute and the fact that it was HS who asked first!
• That proposal scene made me sad. WS did take HS's request and made a better marriage proposal... only for him to be turned down...  Of course, I don't blame HS for that, it's history that I'll blame here. I bet she was really tempted to say yes, THE POOR OTP.... I think that mask scene is the last sweet scene for our OTP... perhaps that's the underlying reason why HS wanted to go to the festival with him: she knows that doesn't have much time left + WS will marry YH + palace shenanigans 
• I almost puked at WS and YH wedding scene =_= Well, we all know that YH will never have his heart, at least. AND THEN CAME THAT SCENE WHERE YH WANTED A CHILD... PUKE EVEN MORE!
• Argh, Jung...
• Whoaaa, the Queen died! Honestly, I felt no pity for her, I absolutely hated her character. What made her death sad was when So cried 
• CR died, bye bye you liar and backstabber. I'm glad someone's actually explained to Soo why she died. Though her thoughts even after all that evidence... uhhh...

 

And don't even get me started on episode 19 preview ;w;

And now, time to share thoughts on this scene:

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CAN I JUST TAKE A MOMENT TO TALK ABOUT HOW HEARTBREAKING THIS SCENE IS? You can clearly see the heartbroken expressions, she really wanted to marry So but in the end, she had to let go  Just watching her put on that wedding dress and stare into the reflection, thinking "That could've been me standing next to him, getting married..." That shattered me a lot!

And now to go back and catch up on this thread + work on my fanfiction if I have the time (link is here and here (Ao3) is anyone feels like reading something, last updated days ago... heh I need to start the next chapter asap)

 

[momono7]

Vote for Lee J Gi and Lee Ji Eun (IU)!! http://www.hallyuvote.com  #MoonLovers #ScarletHeartRyeo

[superkoala]

101 Ways to Die in Goryeo Style:

 

1. Tuberculosis (Lady Hae)

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2. Hanged (Court Lady Oh)

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3. Mental breakdown (King Taejo) - after executing Court Lady Oh, he never able to get his health back, poor papa emperor... 

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4. Poisoned by mercury ("Teddy Bear" Moo)

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5. Sword's slash (Seon Dook)

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6. Arrow shots ("Innocent" Eun)

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7. Heart attacks ("Eyeliner" Yo) - triggered by paranoia and insomnia

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8. House arrest ("Stupid" Jeong) - which means he will be executed when he steps outside

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9. Stroke ("Evil" Queen) - thank you @chi13lou for point it out

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10. Beaten to death ("Snake" Chae Ryeong)

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11. Boiled alive ("Fox" Won) - please, please, please... do it like RIGHT NOW!

12. Sentenced to death ("Darth" Wook) - but I doubt it, he may only be imprisoned and tortured to the point he prefers to die... 

Patiently waiting for the upcoming of last 2... 

 

13. Suicidal jump? (Woo Hee)

14. Weak heart (Hae Soo) - improperly healed torture injuries, kneel for days, rough works for years, and emotional trauma... our modern girl reaches her limit 

15. ----I pray day and night that the "Witch" Yeon Hwa will pay for her crimes, but it seems that the history is not on my side---- 

 

Let's holding hands through this all heartaches and heartbreaks...  

Edited October 27, 2016 by superkoala
add more deaths!

[antiherofans]

29 minutes ago, junejungki said:

I posted a message on his IG. Telling him to take responsibility for all the heart ache and mental breakdown fans are facing right now. Give each of us a big hug. hahahahaha!!!!

 

LOL. Yes, tell him that.

[glacial]

omg guys, moon lovers influence has been sooooo legit at this point that when i was clicking to watch man living in our house, i was thinking "wait a minute, which version is this? gotta find the korean version" omggggggg. lmao. 

[antiherofans]

26 minutes ago, zi4r said:

@isengdoang, @kdramawriter, @antiherofans Thanks for your kind words.

But can you all please don't quote images? I feel bad for the mods.

Thank you!

 

P.S. Sorry @LyraYoo

 

I am so sorry. I completely forgot to delete the images.

I am sorry @LyraYoo

[kdramawriter]

14 minutes ago, 40somethingahjumma said:

Su is trying to (as some people have said here) protect his humanity so that the throne doesn't gobble the man that sits in it. She knows it's a huge burden and it's hard to have to set aside his pride to marry YH and she knows as least partly it's for her sake. But she doesn't want him to lose himself because he is so busy trying to protect her that he also loses sight of the people around him.

Therefore the question isn't that they don't love each other or who loves the other more etc. They both love greatly but they both love differently. 

However, this love... as I've said many posts ago, is inherently explosive... it can't be sustained in Goryeo because the political climate doesn't allow for it. But the sovereignty of fate (or whatever you want to call it), as it were has allowed to occur for a time in order that certain things can fall into place.

Yes! I'm so excited for the next two episodes. I can't wait to see how it all plays out. Don't focus on the negatives people, just enjoy the ride

[Yippeun_eonnie]

Sports Seoul - Naver: 'Moon Lovers', Lee Jun Ki becomes a violent monarch...grows apart from Lee Jieun 

1. [+5,113, -131] Can't wait for next week. Hae Soo leaves, I wanna see Wang So in the present time-- The story is frustrating.. What 'dongsaeng'?

2. [+3,775, -140] Why is it that when one becomes a monarch, they become violent too?

3. [+2,874, -75] Will it be a sad ending? ㅠㅠ

4. [+2,791, -61] Seems like it's going to end similar to history

5. [+1,482, -67] Hae Soo is damn frustrating. Wang So didn't receive love from his mother, the people he loves died because of Chae Ryung. Why can't she understand So for killing Chae Ryung?

6. [+1,305, -44] Am I the only one who thinks Hae Soo is frustrating?

7. [+1,078, -14] I understand Wang So. Chae Ryung did help in Eun's death, it would be strange if she herself doesn't get killed too. Hae Soo has every right to be mad but she shouldn't be turning her back on Wang So

Osen- Naver: 'Moon Lovers', Lee Jun Ki hand in hand with Kang Hana, preview to blood bath... Will Lee Jieun leave? 

1. [+111, -6] Really sad.. I can't help but fall for Lee Jun Ki

2. [+65, -3] Seems like it'll end sadly after all ㅠㅠ

3. [+77, -6] "I want it"... I forgot the rest because of how sadly the episode ended

4. [+70, -7] It's so sad.. So is pitiful

5. [+31, -1] I feel bad for Wang So. Would been nice if she took his side and trusted him

6. [+28, -2] Next ones on the killing list are Wang Wook and Wang Won
 

http://kkuljaem.blogspot.com/2016/10/spoilers-drinking-solo-finale-moon.html

[onemella]

@40somethingahjumma

exactly, i 200% agree with what you have posted!