Famous White Actors/singers With Average Asian Chicks

[Guest ma99ie]

stereotypes for the most part exist to undermine a race, whether there is a stereotype out there that says asian girls are gold diggers or that there is a sudden influx of averagre asian girls nabbing rich white actor types, is irrelevant the fact of the matter is, is that we need more representation out there so we arent judged by these little microcosm examples that are thrust out there into the media- THAT IS THE POINT OF THIS THREAD lol!

the whole point of this thread is 1.) an interesting social observation 2.) how this demonstrates an urgency for more visibility of asians in media

Social observations are nothing if they don't have any basis in fact or backed up by any real media examples - that's like saying "if a tree falls in the forest, and no one heard it, did it really fall?" You could've been brought up in the whitest part of town and due to your environment, ended up going out with an non-Asian. Not only that, socioeconomic circumstances also affect the way people are culturally grouped together along with the attitudes through which they're raised. You cannot use the same brush to paint all these women based purely on their Asian appearances.

There will always be an urgency for more visibility of Asians - just like there's an urgency for more intelligent Muslims, Arabs, Indians, etc etc etc..

The only person judging in microcosmic examples is you with these select examples. Try attending a Asian-American class or picking up a damn book from the Asian American section at your college, and see how much more can be discovered through 'social observation' than the crapola arguments you've posted here. All I'm denoting from this thread is you creating new detrimental stereotypes from the ones that are already existing.

And uh no - Kristin Kreuk is a blip post-Smallville. I'd say Brenda Song's definitely getting up there in the media with her part in "The Suite Life of Zack & Cody", along with Masi Oka and James Kyson Lee with their roles in "Heroes". I thought the point was visibility in mainstream media? Are these shows not mainstream enough for you? Is John Cho not mainstream enough for you with his role in "Star Trek"?

as far as those people u posted, good for them and im so happy that they are succesful but they havent really broken any barriers if anything a few have reinforced stereotypes

vanessa hudgens and kristen kreuk are like the biggest names out of that bunch ironically and they do not count , they arent even perceived as asian by the american public.

Reinforced stereotypes? Explain to me how Tony Leung and Brenda Song and Betty Nguyen and Margaret Cho (who I think is brilliant by the way) have reinforced stereotypes. Explain to me how directors Justin Lin and Ang Lee reinforced stereotypes. The only stereotypes I can smell out of your flimsy arguments are "oh nerdy Asian guy, exotic Lotus Flower, model minority wah wah wah". Get with the times dude- you have a crapload to learn about Asian America in this day and age, many of which should no longer come from the Joy Luck Club school of thought. If you must talk about visibility - how much more visibly Asian can you get with surnames like those?

And not only that - are you going to start schooling us on how much of Daniel Henney is considered Asian? Or how much halfies like Amerie (half-Korean) and Ne-yo (his mum's half-Chinese) are considered Asian? How do you measure how "Asian" someone is? Purely through shallow-visibility, or the way they carry themselves in communities? Is this how we value people in the media, let alone the real world?

Speaking of Ne-yo: everyone should listen to this remix of it!! Erm - spot the Asian? Lolololololol..

On another note, Alex Tse wrote the script to the film "The Watchmen", while Larry Fong was the cinematographer for "300". So the way I see it, Asians don't have to be visible in the media to put in their fair share of kick-richard simmons in mainstream.

But yeah dude, seriously - come back with a coherent argument after you've read up a bit more. Or better yet, get a better understanding of how media really works. And no, you can't do that sitting in front of your computer typing up dumb arguments. You complain about how there isn't enough representation of Asians in mainstream media - how about don't wait for the mainstream to spoonfeed you the stuff you want. Look for it, and make an effort to raise awareness about it - only then can it make it to the mainstream. Or do the unexpected and don't take that "Asian" path of doing medicine or law etc (unless you really do want to do law or medicine) - suck the feck up and pursue the arts.

Some cool sites to visit:

http://www.angryasianman.com/

http://www.racialicious.com/

And another Asian making her way towards America with the MTV "Alexa Chung Show" (she is HUGE in the UK).

YARGH I can't believe I'm engaging in stupid keyboard wars in an online forum ><

Edit:

Best. Interview. Ever. With John Cho!

http://www.angryasianman.com/2008/04/q-with-john-cho.html

[Guest l'uomo]

^Agreed with everything, but Alexa Chung shouldn't really be considered Asian

Though I admit, it really is a superficial observation

[tinkerbell]

Ma99ie....you are like... my hero.

[Guest une_fleur]

I've noticed this not only in the media, but in every day life.

I think it has something to do with the "asian fetish" appeal, partnered with the idea that the majority of women that come from Asia, are still very traditional (i.e. cleaning, cooking,..etc.) Not trying to assume anything here, I live in an area where a majority of immigrating Asians live, so many of my friends tell/act upon that, it's a different culture, so different standards.

Anyway, I'm not saying that this is the case for the examples mentioned, but as far as "fetishes" go, looks can take the back seat in that department.

Let me broaden that statement, "blondes" or "big breasts" are other common fetishes, and a lot of blondes/large chested women could be perceived as "sexy", simply because the fetish's appeal could overshadow an "average" or even "unattractive" face.

Just my opinion from observations as well though.

[Guest scents]

Those average asian girls are humans too..

Maybe it's their personality that captured famous celebrities' hearts..

It doesn't matter what and how they look..

As long as they are very happy..

[sheeput]

Isn't it good? That means that those guys don't see girls for their faces only....., no offense, but that's one of the very few things I like about western guys, they don't go for beauty only, they see girls' personalities as well, I don't mean that the girls have to have good personalities etc, but western guys look for girls' personalities that really match theirs...

Sometimes, I wonder why some fat (sorry sorry sorry) girls can go out with good looking guys, but if you think about it again, it kinda sweet, you know...

To be really honest, that doesn't happen a lot with asian people, asian guys (again, no offense, just stating the truth here, and not all asian guys like this, but honestly, majority of them are) tend to go for pretty, younger, and stylish girls....

I am not angry or anything, I understand why you're thinking like that because sometimes I do too, haha!! But really, I think that kinda sweet....

And hey, everyone got a different taste right (for example, I do think that Paris Hilton are ugly, but thousands of other people would kill to have face like her, lol)? Maybe for you, those girls are not pretty, but for those boys, they are...., I personally think that Alice Kim, Nicolas Cage's wife is pretty....

[dothat36]

people like what they like. just like someone could ask what does Nicole Richie see in Joel Madden... You can't explain who you are attrated to and shouldn't have to.

[sheeput]

just like someone could ask what does Nicole Richie sees in Joel Madden...

LOL at that.....

But really, edwardctv, you shouldn't make a thread like this...., see, now the whole soompi users are hating you....

[Guest l'uomo]

One more thing to the OP:

I don't mean to bash you personally, but I just have to ask...

You go around talking about "Asian representation" and "Asian culture" yet you go around sporting green contact lenses (from what I gather from your sig).

Do you realize how hypocritical that is? What Asian has green eyes naturally? Maybe 1 in a million does have some sort of hazel color.

But how is that a good representation of Asians?

I thought of PMing this message, but I'm pretty sure some other people are wondering the same thing.

[LucasBunny]

what is with all of these dumb threads popping up?

what is soompi smoking?

[Guest Peek-A-Boo]

IMO the title of this thread should be changed to "Pretty Asian chicks whith average looking famous white actors/singers"

i think the pictures you chose didnt do them justice at all. i personally find trent reznor's girlfriend and perry farrell's wife very pretty

[Guest dhillman]

you gotta admit those girls are not-so-good looking. i agree with this topic starter. he's just pointing out what he sees. plus, it is true (based on what i see on a daily basis) that white guys that go out with asian girls have an eye for not-so-good asian girls while the nice girls stick to the asian dudes, no matter how average they are.

[Guest becool]

didn't woody allen marry his adopted daughter???? so..yeah....

[Guest Kiwi Bird]

The problem with the OP here isn't that these white guys are in a relationship with average looking asian females, the problem he has is that they are in a relationship with Asian females. The sad part is, people like you would put down the Asian female. It really doesn't matter what they looked like o the OP. If the Asian girl is hot, then OP would say Asian girls want white men and are willing to date ugly/average white guys, and if he thinks they're ugly, then the white guys have an Asian fetish an will date any Asian girl. Either way, he'll take his insecurity out on any Asian female that's not in the arms of another Asian so don't bother talking to people like him about actual love and chemistry since he's only hung up on what he wants to see. He'll probably go crazy if he saw an Asian guy with an average/ugly white chick and say that the girl is hot and that they are truly in love because he's an Asian man and she's a white girl.

[Guest eshtee]

Although this is supposed to be a "social" observation...race isn't the only factor when marrying someone. I mean you could replace this situation with many other races, but it still won't matter.

No famous person marries an asian person thinking "oh I have to represent that all asian women are hot." They are usually thinking "I love this person and I could spend the rest of my life with them," or something along the lines of that...

Ex. Michael Cera is going out w/ Charlyne Yi (who is not the most attractive girl), but I'm almost positive they're with each other cause they love each other, not for any other reasons. Btw, she was with him probably before he became famous and they're still together today. Which makes me really frustrated when people are like "OMG she's sooo ugly, he can do so much better." Because she seems like a really humble and awesome unique person but people automatically think shes nothing because she isn't pretty. Lame.

Oh they're gonna be in a mockumentary movie together called Paper Heart, which I'm definately gonna watch and she has a youtube for music/ comedy

[Guest Tofu_Cloud]

if alice kim is pretty then what is hyori and song hye kyo?

ummm hyori and song hye kyo arent pretty.

they are goregous

[Guest dramaprincessxox]

One more thing to the OP:

I don't mean to bash you personally, but I just have to ask...

You go around talking about "Asian representation" and "Asian culture" yet you go around sporting green contact lenses (from what I gather from your sig).

Do you realize how hypocritical that is? What Asian has green eyes naturally? Maybe 1 in a million does have some sort of hazel color.

But how is that a good representation of Asians?

I thought of PMing this message, but I'm pretty sure some other people are wondering the same thing.

This is the best reply I have seen so far. Green contacts? It really is hypocritical.

what is with all of these dumb threads popping up?

what is soompi smoking?

Girl, I do not know. This is a celeb photo section and we have racialists like the topic starter trying to discuss social issues on here. And he doesn't even have a valid point. Don't those Asian girls have the right to marry the ones they love? Should they hide themselves from society because they're not pretty enough to "represent Asians"? That doesn't sound fair to me. They're still human beings, they're still women with feelings.

EDIT: For anyone who wants to bash without knowing what I'm talking about: a "racialist" is someone who studies racial issues. Don't mix it up with "racist"!!

ummm hyori and song hye kyo arent pretty.

they are goregous

Agreed!!! lol

[Guest lil_miss_kawaii]

I have to agree with the OP and some posts

It's very subjective and sensitive area

I mean I have noticed that

~ yes the massive actors have "average" looking asian girls

~ U never see one with an asian who looks lik ZhangZiyi or Hyori

But like ~ the girls they picked are just normal asian girls ~ they may be average in comparison to say Hyori or whatever but like they are normal

I mean the actors could have picked someone who is prettier ~ but these girls are probably pretty WITH makeup ~ see them they barely wear any

Like woody allens barely wears any makeup and the one nicholas cage is dating barely wears any either

They are pretty ~ just not hyori lees ~ but how many hyori lees are there ??

And its not like they going to import a hyorilee/zhangsiyi/EunHye lookalike just to date!!!!!

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[Guest traciegrl88]

people like what they like. just like someone could ask what does Nicole Richie see in Joel Madden... You can't explain who you are attrated to and shouldn't have to.

or what did joel madden see in nicole richie. . . but yeah, it's the personality that matters

[Guest Meenuh]

I wonder if there would be a topic on this had they been average white females... Asians are people too. So whatever anyone would see in another human being can be seen in asians. If you're so worried about what people will think of you because how you feel that these women are representing asians as a whole then you have some insecurity issues.

No one is gonna look at an asian person and say "oh haha. i'm gonna say he's ugly cause I saw William Hung and he is one ugly asian. Therefore you must be ugly as well." Seriously. There are plenty of beautiful and talented asian celebrities as well and wayyyy more well known than wives of famous people because they themselves are in the spotlight.