[[Drama 2021] Mouse, 마우스]

New stills ready 

 usually  that's should make me happy  now it make me scared 

My poor BY she praying for him to wake up and when he wake up she hug him like this 

 

That was going to be so sweet if there wasnt for that chance that he a killer who crazy and hate people  who believe  in God and pray for him   

 

let it be the sweet version  please 

[[Drama 2021] Mouse, 마우스]

16 minutes ago, Jolie TAN said:

Why yohan has grandma bandage at his house floor if yh arrived late at the scene where grandma is killed earlier, means yohan is at the scene in contact with grandma and found her bandage? Did he take the bandage home accidentally like sticking on his clothes? If he is the killer, he would have destroyed it by burning it rather than throwing it away like that, since that bandage may make him a suspect, the killer is known to be meticulous

 I will explain  it to you, I think you missed some scenes from ep 3  

 

The granny bandage fall on Yh  house and he wasnt the one that found it, it was  the reporter  who vist his house ( while he was out to follow the granny after known she was in the secert  room)  

 

She found the bandage  and throw  it in garbage basket  thinking it was for YH(  even  suprise  he using some like this ) it all happened  in ep 3-4 but when they tell her they suspect  YH  she remember  the bandage and go back to YH house to search the garbage  basket  in that room, that when she found  it and the other thing) 

20 minutes ago, Jolie TAN said:

why the killer that killed grandma burn the photo if the photo belong to him, why not just take photo and go back his home? But seeing how yohan got rid of his other photo by burning and which is same when he burn grandma photo?

Why dk intently leave out that the killer killed Kim Joon sung and called moochi when he is receiving interview?

 That why we talk about it here before that it wasnt YH  who killed granny, after she run from house she saw something  also that get her killed , in the same night and the same area  they discovered  the body of the worker  so she probably  witness  the murder  while trying to hide and run from YH  

 

[[Drama 2021] Mouse, 마우스]

Just two more days my friends 

Let wait for two more days to know more or to be thrown into more mess and big theories  web 

Really come to think about now, everytime they give us some information  it only lead us to more webs of question  and results and make us lost more 

 

 They testing us hard,  I done writen more theories for this week I feel the more I wrote the more I do what they want  from us , and it is to go away with fake hints when we mostly already  know the answer  ( 2 days of break and i dont know  if I can hold myself  after 7- 8 to not fall in the traps  again and make anothers theories okay I can at least update my old ones with the new information) 

[[Drama 2021] Vincenzo, 빈센조]

After ep 10 

 

CY definitely  sure what kind of man vincenzo  was, again she sub asked him to be that man, not the normal  lawyer  ( she dont him to do that in the same time but she totally  understood  what he is and understand  how it neccessary sometimes) 

 

Vincenzo  too, he  not hide it anymore from her, the fact that  he caused innocent  death again( he has trauma  from his flashback for killing once innocent and maybe a child too) that feeling again make him show his real face infront of CY  before others

 

He tell her his law, he tell her I am going to kill just like that, and her reaction  to seeing  his dark face while talking about how he will the one who judge  brove she already know that he was like that( he kill before)

I Like how in the end scene when she run to hug him even after he was just finished killing and tournament  had so much affection on him, I guess he though that she will have hard time to accept  seeing him doing all that even if she approve  before 

 

But she run to him,  hugged  him like that , was crying from  worry  about him, it all  for  suprised him and  melted his darkness  face and heart little  by little that was great scene  

 

And we all have to have moment  to admire SSJ for his acting in all this episode   to make us feel the switching  of vincenzo  dark side without any overacting , specially  in the hug scene each second and every little change of his face and body language  make me see Vincenzo 

it was done perfectly  to feel it,  not over romance  or over and fast  changing,   it just give the right chills  of the  real dark man  that lived all his life killing , his sub emotional was delivered  so well 

 

I think he was going to kill Jw if it wasnt for CY  hug after knowing  the true , he was walking like he still in acting  and was like he heading to killing 

 

JYB prove herself  again she really talent  she entering my book of special  talent  actresses  in big way to  point  I can never  dare to ignore  her again, wow she can act all from craziness, sadness , love  , emotional  , strong , weak , dramatic , funny  ....  .  I cant even stop to think how many different  actress they should need to make CY  character  like this, and how they couldnt do all that with another actress ( bravo she deserves  so much admire and respect) 

 

She step her feet strongly  in this filed after this drama 

 

And again most important  from ep 10 - Jw understand  now that CY  not his anymore, that vincenzo  is someone  to destroy  not to play with , and we understand  that the fun going to start now and that plaza  people  all had dark past ( all was former criminal  I think  - a new heavenly  family to vincenzo )  the piano girl who said she good on computers  and machines  I suspect  she was a former genius hacker 

 

 

P.s. I think  vincenzo will have trauma  from every time that CY  tell him " you can do that vincenzo  cassano " since it all always  ending making him do the most humility  roles in his book 

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2 hours ago, holyfea said:

Now i'm thinking about 3 "entire family" victims in ep 1.. If the victims are step dad, Jaemin and sister. So where was eomma at that time?

If jae hoon not YH and the mother from that family not HHS  wife as I am now think that it really not them 

 

Then as I wrote before the  real question  isnt  where the mother? But who really survive  that family murder?? The mother, the brother? The sister??? 

I think the one who survived  us one of the children  not the mother 

 

 And again even if Jae hoon is the killer now , another question still the same from the start did he really killed his family??? Or that his family murderer   by someone  also was his trigger since till that he was trying to not harm people  and take it out on himself  and animals  

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Even when I dont wish for it in my heart  but logically I am with the fact that BR is psychopath  and had darkness  and he was acting all long  

 

When I said the children  swapping  theory it was in easy manner; but yeh while thinking about that as possible  I easy though and said the YH  not jae  hoon and that jae  hoon is the HHS son that his wife swapped  him somehow  with the other mother baby's  and since BR was showing to be the other woman child he was sure jae hoon to me 

 

But still in my heart I didn't  want him as killer, so I though it all build  on my crazy though of swapping  children, but after that I found out it wasnt  crazy theory, so I said to myself  maybe jae hoon wasnt a killer,  they  just misleading  us again to think he killed his family ( so here we build theories about another killer for the family  trying to prove jae hoon innocent) 

 

But again the start scene of ep 6 they showing us that the killer now  is mostly  the grown up jae hoon and they show that from HHS wife reactions  that BR  is jae hoon ( if they not tricking us again about one of them) 

 

I keep refusing  in my heart , but mosty my head going choicing him as the main killer and mastermind  behind everything  and he will be suspect no matter how  much hope they give us till the last episode  when we sure he not. But to be honest him being the killer from the start seem to fit more then him going to be killer now after the injury  ( I know, it  fight between  mind and heart here) 

 

My only hope ; that the choice  to make him a really pscho who has darkness  but choices  to not kill others ( he can kill bad guys) and he will use his different  to understand  and hunt people  like him 

But again I keep seeing all his past acting creepy now , when he cover his mouth at the priest  murder  scene I think he was laughing  and admiring the scene but hide it , when he was happy that MC eat food he was happy that his enemy  come back to game ... and every scene with BY and granny and other now has double  meaning  now 

 

I read it in Twitter  i think after ep 6 ( sorry i don't remember  where or who did wrote  it )  but someone  wrote about how other drama split  viewers  and make them fight  between two  main leads shipper but this drama spilt  our own personality  between the good Br  and the killer BR 

 

And I totally related  to this words now ,  there a fight  between  what we sure that can happen in our mind and  a heart  that really refuses  it. 

 A mind want that darkness  and different  plot's  of the story where the main lead is totally the evil one but a heart that want hope 

 

But again it not up to us , it up to what twists  and mood the writer  will feel to use since yeh she have all the choices we talk about and maybe more hidden  one 

[[Drama 2021] Vincenzo, 빈센조]

Spoiler. 

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The last few scenes of ep 10 was great we saw vincenzo  mafia  mood 

We get the warm hug from CY to him but we also get the scene  where they figure  out who JW is

 

That scene was so great and warm but so scary too 

Not just cause they know the true but the look at jw  face seeing CY  death worry  about vincenzo  , seeing her hugging  him like that 

 

That look on his face , ah he finally  admit to himself  he lost her that what I said will be the scariest  things when she nothing  but enemy  and a weakness of enemy  

 

 

 

All ep 10 was great from the start to the end another so much happen  episode  and so much different emotional 

 

 

What more important  I understand from ep 10 that the people  at plaza  they all have secrets  and hidden  identity  and power I will not suprised  they all hide from dark past and trying to live normally now 

 

Yesterday  we had the powerful  husband  and wife and today we get the cloth cleaning  man  they weren't  definitely  not normal  people in past 

 

They going to make the best new  family  for vincenzo  who can accept  him with his past

 

 

[[Drama 2021] Vincenzo, 빈센조]

One of my favorite  funny  scene of ep 9 when CY eat vincenzo  food and he looked like going to kill her and he say " if you was in Italy you will be already " and he stop himself  from saying his favorite  words " already buried  in   vineyard " 

 

 

He prove that his meals is dangerous  spot to touch or run

And i was like " oh man she could be in that vineyard  for so many others reason, just think  what she made you do till now " 

 

CY and the birds always  win against  vincenzo ( CY maybe ending  raising that bird) 

 

Edit we have new still a guns war coming 

 

 

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25 minutes ago, holyfea said:

Yeaa.. me too..

As we saw in early episode if JH also seems ambidextrous. He drew monster snake and poured amoniac with right hand, he grabbed the knife if the dead body with left hand.

Also BR eat with right hand but opened bottle with left hand. Something's fishy.

 

About he changed the crutch posistion, i believe with Lee Seung Gi's intelligence i don't think it was filming mistake 

For me it was a big clue that his leg was already cured.. And he can jumped like whatever.. (mian oppa i pointed out your nose right now. lol )

 

I hope next episode we can see the wound in the left arm of the culprit, maybe we are gonna know it by the shower scene hahaha.. mian 

Just when I drawing in the darkness  of the possibility  of what going to happen  if he the killer and you come to say why not we could have  a shower scene just to know if his hand  injured  or not 

 

 

 you killing me here , why not let the serious  aside we hurt or head to much already,   let just have some fun  

[[Drama 2021] Mouse, 마우스]

New still's  

 

It the hospital , and she was injured  in her neck did YH did that in that night  ? Or ????? 

Ah really I really dont want them to go with YH death and they transform some organs  from him to BR or that  he really damage BR emotional  control  in the head with that hammer 

 

( okay  the new damage  Is less  stupid  then the organ  transformer since it more close to what can happen in medical  term)

But both choicing between bad choices

 

But if they going on the road that it cause the injury, he had emotional disability now( no awake  the gene stupid plot please,  just new  medical conditions) if they go that road at least do that right,  show us the really fight between  good past natural  and new fight between  uncontrollably new personality cause the injury ) 

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1 hour ago, holyfea said:

And let's see, momma outfits are different. Jaemin's mom in the kitchen wore light brown outfit. But the lady (is current YH mom) was wearing broken white oiutfit along with the coat.

If you are panicking because you lost your boy, to change the clotch will be a matter and takes time.

I said the baby's  swapping  theory  as some side theory and wasnt so serious  about it but after ep 4 I start to think it really happened  and ep's 5-6 made me so sure 

It all start with the mother  strange  behavior  I get the feeling  that the sin she talk about not about YH  since her reaction  to remember  things or hearing about the crime different  from her reaction  to YH  

 

her real son is Jae hoon, he not YH she mosty swap the children  as babys that was only her only chance without anyone known   

 

If it  jae hoon the killers as they trying hard to show us in this drama  or she only mistake him  for that we dont know, if BR  Is Jae  hoon we still cant be sure 

 

Even when all the evidence  say that 90% jae  hoon is BR since he only had a baby's  picture  with his mother , since HHS wife react like this to him and more .. ...

 

The question  here is he really is jae hoon or he is the killer, it has 10% of space  to do tricks and twist  till the end with this two question 

 

I will wait to see more I  and everyone here had already talk about every  possiblity  that can happen  so let see if they can even suprise us with new thing 

 

1 hour ago, holyfea said:

It's all the trap! 

Yeh 

That existly  what they doing with the visual  hints  

1 hour ago, maddymappo said:

 

I am wondering if BR knows HH is his bio father... if he in fact actually is. ..   

 

I dont gave any ideas at this point about  Dr Daniel Lee's murder.. the why and the who did it.  Except that after reviewing the Kim family death file with a detective, as Dr Lee walks out of the police station he conjures up in his mind the image of Jae Hoon and the cross on the horizon.  He has apparently connected the religious obsession with Jae Hoon.  Maybe he knows the real Jae Hoon is BR so he had to be silenced.. sort of a very weak theory.

Dr Daniel  murder sure has something  with the ID of the children with Gene ( if he really death-we not sure about that trust me till they found the body)  

 

He come back and properly  tried to check on each one of them and probably  even tell something  he should never tell , about him doing some bad thing in the past with the tests (  I still suspect  that ) 

 

The fact the same politic woman from ep 1 still  interesting  in Daniel  case make me sure that the third one with the gene us the same man who vote against  the law, if Daniel  and her do something  about the test of that baby  or she know the result  is true and cover the doing of the son then they possibly  the one who killed Daniel  that why his killing M.O. was different ( that why  the body  was hidden) 

 

So I more with the theory  that Daniel  killing wasn't part of the others killing ( no matter  if the political son is the killer  or no they cant let the  true of him having a son with psycho  gene  out specially  in this timing so they probably  kill him in that secert way or the killer kill him and they di the cleaning since that not the killer way of handle  things) 

 

 

I think too that Daniel  upcoming noble  prize had something to do with this three children  as test subjects so that why he come to Korea in this timing.   so the killer or any one of the children  would never like the fact that he done that on them and the fact if he win the prize  even if hide the name of the suspects it will be world  knowing about their existence  in Korea so it will no time to make the names out  ( so if part of the  killing or not he was killed  cause he come back and  try to connect  those children) 

 

Who will like someone coming  to tell them that they have the psycho  gene no matter  if they know it  or not,  if they already did killing or still holding on 

[[Drama 2021] Vincenzo, 빈센조]

CY KNOW vincenzo  dark past

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I think CY already know that vincenzo  was involved  in more darkness  acts in Italy,  like killing and she only asking in that funny manner  for him 

 

Just like how she catch that he a mafia, and catch he was the one who did the pillow  things in Jang house. She smart and  catch hints fast and  have good street  smart feeling ,as she tell him many time 

" do you think I am stupid  to not notice  all that" 

 

 That why she asked him to promise  they will not harm people  lives and  before that  ask him for the driver death ( she know he can do that from the start and he was so clam even after she told him the  news of driver death, so no way she didnt understand  the true)

And when he ask if she will cut ties  with him if she know he killed  people, she said " it not the issue; it just will make him someone different ( from far away)" she  wasn't even suprised 

 

Cy smart , she know and possibly  90% sure but she making the easy manner  for him to be relax  around her, just like she play along about not known he a mafia  before 

 

I dont think his past is a problem  to her, she start to admire  the one who now standing infront  if her, and she not that innocent  she know that world need some darkness.  I think she only trying to give him psychology  space to come in term with his past 

 

She know that he thinking he dont deserve  love and happiness, she totally  catching the meaning  behind his words everytime( but yeh vincenzo  should never underestimate  her smartness  and fast catching  things , he never learn when she the one  who trick him everytime ) 

 

Vincenzo  mother 

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I like how they explain  the mother reason for leaving  him, and seeing the over protection  and control freak vincenzo  was good, that how he look when he care  about someone , leave the coolness  out of the room 

 

The mother had a very sad life , really a single  mother in young age ( husband  leaving or death) , no family to really one , a danger cancer  in young age with late stage, have to  leave her son fearing she will die and he will be throwing in street, miracle  recovery after 4 years of fighting  the sickness  , she probably  go to find her son and discover  he was adopt  overseas, living with guilt  about her son

 

And if that ak not enough  , while trying to work hard  she was harrassment by her boss and fram for his death and spend years on prison  and had to face the cancer  once again 

 

Yeh vincenzo  , she really mean it when she said that life not sweet for everyone  , for some no matter  what you do things always  go wrong 

That explains  why she so weak and has mo well to fight for her life or her  rights now 

 

 

The family's  of the victims 

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They break my heart, first it was so sweet that they keep connected  and even have meal together, it was so nice  to show us how they have  difficulty since people  blame  them for asking for their rights , it was admirable  that they stand strong for that pressure and they even trying to live happy  and go for trip 

 

But all that warm heart feeling, touching  moment  turn anger and sadness  when they just kill them ( the most innocent  one of this war) 

 

I understand  that vincenzo  and even CY  will  decide  to throw the rules out now, no mercy, no rules let just make them pay ( I am a viewer  and I want to go and destroy  the company and JW head ) 

 

And for Vincenzo  it not  just about  justice  for him , he lived with rules, dont hurt innocent  that have nothing  to do with big players, dont hurt women  and children, eyes for eyes , never leave a warning  without  replying  

 

And he did feel something  for the victims  family so it worse now for him; it was the first someone thanking him for doing good, treating him as a hero and give him warm hug and see his wrong doing as good thing for good case,   

  

JW 

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JW , oh JW 

You not just evil rich guy , you totally  psycho  it not just about money and power  it about your sick soul which refuses anyone  or anything that dont treat it as special  

You crazy , yeh it not about fighting  evil company  and money lovers  people  who dont care about live 

 

It about fighting  a crazy and psycho  person who enjoy  destroying  and killing and he just happened  to have all that money and power 

 

There a reason that the brother fear you so much , he probably  saw more crazy then that and killing the father, he know that JW  even without money and power can and will by himself hunt him  and make him suffer  before  killing him if he betray  or anger him 

 Dear ex prosecutor  do you understand  now which  side you choice  , no punishment  more then have to deal with this crazy boss 

 

Live in fear he will lose his mind once at you ( she not easy she probably  will be the last to stand beside  JW but she has to live in danger  too ) 

 

   

 

 

CY for JW 

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JW brother is right, he never  think twist before killing their father, he kill a powerful prosecutor  for anger him and underestimate his company power 

 

So why not killing CY till now , when she the reason behind all what happened   

It not about love , not about training  with good partner as he said since when he know vincenzo  true he will order his killing ( since he realse he dealing with someone  who can do what he do , killing without thinking)

 

 

CY is stubborn  goal for Jw, he want her, she was someone  strange, different and crazy  and unique then others around him, he liked her ,  he though she   the only one who  can match with him; he can make her queen and she can rules in  crazy way  like him 

 

He lose her,and  as he said before "why wasting your talent  on those things", since he think she had the ability  to be beside him as his partner  as his queen 

 

JW cant lose , he hate losing , he will only kill CY  when he admit he lost her forever,  that he unable  to have her back ( and he dont want to admit that yet it hurt his pride ) 

 

He crazy but he has fantasy  about her; even now he think he can at some point force her to back to his side, thinking I can win her when I show her how I can win against her and make her admire  me ( yeh that his logic, control people  by over powering  them or by fear) 

 

But when he admit he really lose , then it when he will be more scary with her then he did with anyone  in his life 

 

[[Drama 2021] Mouse, 마우스]

I am not going to rely  to much about the visual  evidence  or what they show in term of cloth and hight since yeh they can play with that in proupse  to make us suspect  so many people  and sadly they will not even  try to explain  all  what in our list of evidences in the end ( they usually  film the killer scene with muilty actors( BR , SS.....) who can be the killer  in the drama or even worst they bring someone  outsiders  to film that scene to show us , then film the real one that they will  only air when the true out) 

 

So the tall, and some faces part and some of clothes hints are all off my evidence  book , that why you find that evidence  in some scene point to BR and in other point to someone  also ( and they will not even try to explain  the thing that dont fit just saying it was showing from someone  side story not what the true is or like it not important) 

 

All the evidence  I care about are behavior  or the characters  ; what they could hide, their reaction , their possible  reasons  and time line evidence  ( I hope they dont mess with the last one just for the mystery  in away they cant explain  it later ) 

[[Drama 2021] Vincenzo, 빈센조]

OMG JW  how dare you !!! How could you 

Out of all the wrong and crazy things you did this was 

 

I dont care vincenzo  make him see what a mafia man do when he angry 

I am done having fun with games really how dare he  do that  they only start to have normal  life after losing there beloved one

 

He psycho a totally  one , he having fun  

The real game starting tomorrow, JW found about vincenzo  really identity  and so vincenzo I think find about JW too 

 

It getting bloody  next from both side, jw will surely want vincenzo  death if it not cause the work he destroy  then it for taking CY from him .

He crazy and his jealous  is more craziest  , I really want him to taste how to deal with merciless enemie like vincenzo  

Since no one can deal with this person  without know how to really play darkness  

 

And for the ex  prosecutor  and the lawyer they now understand  what they deal with , they now understand  why the brother  so afraid  of JW 

[[Drama 2021] Mouse, 마우스]

The most interesting  question  if BR is a killer  or even If he not yet but he sure psychopath  and he really interesting  in BY,  then what he going to do to the man who going to be out ?? Specially  if tried  to come near BY?? 

 

that not romance,   but if he really interesting  in her or take her as belong to him then he not going to let that man go safely ( even as psychopath  who still didnt  kill anyone  there behavior  when someone  come near what he see belong to him) 

[[Drama 2021] Mouse, 마우스]

@OMORI that a good long post , 

I agree the simple  road and the most logical  one that BR is the killer  

Whatever  he had muilty  personality  or he just putting act all the time 

If he the killer and he the real son of HHS and the little  jae hoon it explains  everything  with the mother switching  children  at some point 

And it will be easy to cover all the timeline  hole by making him have partner  who work for him. so all the time that BR couldn't  be in two places  or cant do something  cause  his injury  it will be explain  by partner help 

 

 

It will  be the most logical road to get out of the mess, but we still wish he not not cause we needed  one person who have the gene that turn to be good , where  the environment  win over natural  ( but that our wishes) that not fantastic  it really was proven in real life in some cases 

 

BR being the mastermind  behind  everything  will end all the craziness  but even if he is I don't think the writer going to gave that so fast she will keep give us hope  and play with us to trust him or build  other theories  till the end 

 

 

But still I wish he not, I want to see one with that gene fight himself  and the bad ones ( and my poor BY she had enough) 

[[Drama 2021] Vincenzo, 빈센조]

OMG

 

  

[[Drama 2021] Vincenzo, 빈센조]

New stills someone  die we not sure who !! Maybe more then one  

 Jw  coming out finally 

[[Drama 2021] Mouse, 마우스]

What really considered  me is if the writer  will explain  the bird things at start of ep 7 or it going to let us wounder  after ignore it and we let us wounder if BR  acting  or have muilty  personality   

1 hour ago, Sleepy Owl said:

But, as I said multiple times, I don't think the type of person this killer is shown to be, he would actually have one. He sees himself as Alpha predators, and they are usually the solo hunters. 

Even alpha  killer can have partner  okay we dont call them partner  , they like follower, he enjoy people  who follow  and worship  him, for him they only  animal  from the same kind so he can accept  this as long as they under him and never raise to his status 

Actually  they tend to even make that long bonds so if it one if the people  you mentioned  they were bonded at young age to make  that work for them  ( not like they love and care about each other,  it all about join fun and status  pyramid )

Specially  the smart one , they enjoy playing with people emotional  more then killing  itself so they dont mind some others do the killing when the leader order it 

 What you said can really be the case 

 

1 hour ago, Sleepy Owl said:

But not sure why, my gut feeling is telling me, the killer is Ba Reum. But, you never know, the writer might troll us, by making the killer a totally different character from the 3-4 suspects we have

Might!!! Dear she the writer  of GG14DAYS  , she not might do that she sure will do that , she will take us to   coaster  ride, till we drawing with double and  our own theories  then the answer will be the simple  one that  we know from the start 

 

I said it high chance she   will make BR the monster here but will make us pity him and doubt  ourselves  till we give up and just accept  anything  she will give  

 

(Then why I am here trying hard building  theories?? Since it part of the fun?? And since I want to give her a chance to do that in a really tightly  written  that has no holes to make admire it) 

4 hours ago, rocher22 said:

It was almost like the balcony scene from ''Romeo and Juliet''.   

We know Romeo was honest, but for Bareum Im not sure , yet.

Let not forget  romeo  and juliet  ending  making them in that category not even happy  even if BR is honest 

 

oh really they have good romance hint  and emotional sharing  scenes and even cute family vibe  why killing all that dear writer 

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Interesting  what you all talking about then why not trying mixing  it all   

Let aside first if YH is a killer or not , if he he go BR house to kill, talk or just to harm his head ( we talk about all that) 

 

And l focus  about all what you all already  said about BR 

 

 

If BR was nice or at least  acting nice cause he want to be part of social  and hide his true not cause bad reason ( he didnt harm anyone and was fighting  his own self) 

 

Then what change  beside all what we already  wrote , you all make me think of another logic  and psychology  reason 

 

What if it wasnt the head injury, but what YH said to BR before he hurt him ??? 

 

If Br  didnt know about the gene things, and was fighting  all his life the wrong feeling that was surface  him as evil or demon  that shouldn't be in a good person like him from good family and then someone  come and tell him the true you was born like that, they know you are like that before you was born and hide that from you and force you to be something  also 

 

If it wasnt the head injury ( please I know it can be happen in science  but I dont want them to turn everyone  as murder that scary then no police  should go work there worst then death) 

 

Okay so back to all you said  , if it was simple  BR had the gene , his good grown environment  helped  him win over it but it still a fight inside him he was shocked by the true that YH said ( no matter  what he said ) and that why he change now , why he let his guard  down and couldn't  stop it more 

 

That why killing the bird was to see what he will really feel after killing, and he prove  that Yh words he didn't  feel guilty  about it 

 

 

Oaky we trying hard here everyone  when half of what we wrote  will go away next Wednesday this writer maybe start the eps  telling us  even what BR  story  ( I cant believe  it only 3 days after the episode  ended  )

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6 minutes ago, 1ouise said:

 

I'm sticking with this logic.  I haven't seen anything that would change this.

 

The promotional materials state:  "Jeong Ba-reum, a police officer whose life changes after the confrontation with a psychopathic killer," and that's where we are now.

 

IMO, viewers are too cynical to believe what they see.  If we accept what we have been given, the story is straightforward and not too complicated.  If we try to squeeze in our own story, it becomes illogical and inconsistent.  I don’t see that there have been many twists yet, except those imagined by creative viewers.  Facts have been revealed to us bit by bit.  This is not really a whodunnit—it’s a thriller. Catching Headhunter and finding Predator are just the beginning for the rest of the plot and theme—nature and nurture, politics and ethics.

 

 

 

 I am one of the major  guilty imagination  viewers   you have point but most of our imagination  cause the drama really trying to make us do that by giving some unsurface hints , it part of the game to make the viewer  interesting 

 

But as you said, let take it easy till next week when they show  more,

I respect  your view let clam down i myself wrote muilty  futures wild thoughts  for 10 different  drama till now 

 

I really hope you right what we promised  will start now , it more simple  and it will not go crazy as we though - that the things I dont want to happen 

 I will wish for that I want to enjoy  a good written  mystery without holes and want to really see the argument  between  natural  and neutrals  made in good and fair way 

 

Forgive the viewers  we having so much trauma  recently , and sadly  and desperately  we really want to find a writer to prove he/ she  different 

 

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2 hours ago, nrllee said:

Sigh @nona88.  It does sound that way?  How else will they drag it out for another 14eps?  .  Writer dispensed with HH in 1ep.  Now it looks like she dispensed with 7deadly sins murderer in potentially 5eps?   She looks to be raising another killer in BR now that he’s suffered brain damage (I really dislike this approach of hers)...why can’t he become like Hwang ShiMok?  Instead she turns him into the next Hannibal. 

Okay if it is that, if they going on the road of head damage  then did YH  did that on purpose  hitting  him with hummer  that not the killer MO 

 And if YH isnt killer but YH  as doctor  he more fast and good with knives  why choosing hummer. 

 

Okay back to theory  land,  if they going with another plot  now , BR was normal , YH is indeed  the killer or one if them 

YH didnt like that BR was normal when the God make YH monster  so if he go with the killer  logic  of being God that will judge  people  

 

Then is that was his judgment???  making BR a monster too , he didn't  go to kill him but to damage  that part of his head ( as doctor  he knows better) so that why the hummer  !!!  

 

He want BR  to live as monster  who has no choice , but again that make no sense with BR behavior  before  too 

 

Okay I am making Yh the biggest  villain  here when I was one  of the people saying he was framed  all those past episodes  and he not a killer- all that to get out of the crazy  roads of plots  that I wrote about before 

 

Dear writer  you making me written  theories  against my own theories,  I am fighting  against my own logic now  I know you going to make him the crazy one from the start but you will play with us for some episode  more to petty  him and have hope then discover  it was the same that we know from the start 

 

Is it only me ??? Since I feel I am not doing well and going crazy

 

 

 okay lucky I have vincenzo  tomorrow  I hope it can make me forget thinking about all that 

 

 

P.s . 

2 hours ago, nrllee said:

of hers)...why can’t he become like Hwang ShiMok?  Ins

Dear  ShiMok   okay you making me feel better how could you think of bringing  him here , I understand  the connection  but still  indeed  why not making him like that 

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The text previews  of ep 7 is out are you ready 

강덕수 의 출소 로 봉이 의 불안 함 은 커져 가고 , 무치 는 두 석이 이끄는 증거 보관 팀 으로 발령 을 받는다 . 무치 의 총 을 맞고 병원 으로 실려간 요한 은 상태 가 좋지 않고 , 수술 후 깨어 난 바름 의 텅 빈 눈빛 은 낯설 기만 한데 ...

 

 They saying that BY is getting nervous because  of that man release ( he not worth  to write his name this one just kill him anyway, I can't forgive  those kind of people  more then killers) 

 

Okay sorry  back to the preview 

MC join the evidence  storage  team were detective PDS work   ( I think it punishment) 

 

YH still  alive but in bad condition and BR wake up after surgery  but something change he has empty  eyes now 

 

 

( dont tell me they really going with the head damage  plot that making him killer or make his emotional center damage now ) 

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37 minutes ago, Samuel Yohanes said:

I still on ep 4 1/3 way in

 

I am curious why people think BR is the psycho anyone can give me insight? 

 

I dont really good at investigating on this kind of drama

If we ignore  all the hints in that episode  and the previously one you can just understand  when you get to the last scene of ep 6 ( really the last scene) 

 

It not  just insights we were talking about a lot about that in the  last two pages  but I think watching  it by yourself  make different  ( trust me the  only admiring things in that is how wonderful  LSG act that ) 

 

 

Ah dont count one ep 4 since ep 5 going to throw you back off the track and then ep 6 coming to pull you again 

 

I am not sure what ep 7 will do??. 

 

32 minutes ago, nrllee said:

Sleepy Owl I think that’s why we have different voiceovers and the past is murky.  We are hearing 2 (or maybe 3) different voiceovers spliced together.  The envelope with the DNA data that YH hid looked new.  Daniel probably handed it to YH.  I don’t think his mom ever told him about the test/gene.  That’s why when he spoke to her that night, he asked if she knew he was a murderer (had the gene

We back then to muilty or more killers or  and different  view of events  when there always  someone  also there  

 

 

But what that say about BR now

If I assume  he not bad ( let the bird aside  he breaking  my heart till now ) 

If BR not bad , if Daniel  give Yh the true about the others kids and YH was watching all of them to know who the killer  

 

 

Then did he mistake  BR so he want to kill him, or did he really discover  the real one 

 

 And if I am going to let the bird aside  okay I am taking about the bird when killing the priest  and what he do to the kid was worse ( but not ready to talk about them now that BR could be who did it) 

 

Again even without the bird  scene, BR acting was not  innocent  in ep 6 , for example  when they call him to tell him they found granny  DNA on YH house why he rushed  there????? 

 

They tell him they found evidence  , they going to have warrants  and go there and go after YH, there no reason for BR  to rush there when the police  was going any way beside him fearing that the police  will find something  against him since YH was after him 

 

( dont tell me he purely want to save the kid and couldn't  wait that was werid even without the bird scene ) 

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1 hour ago, ferily said:

@nrllee Omg I heard about GG14DAYS and how everyone hated the ending and the ending made no sense. I hope with Mouse things will be better and nothing like that drama.. Totally agree with what you said too about BR's mom vs YH's mom. Man, just because of that hit to the head, BR is going to be a psychopath now? Come on, he was like super sweet prior to Episode 6. After episode 6, we are just going to see the devil inside of him come out..

Yeh if they get to that road he was good guy till he was hitting in the head with pscho  so he trun  one 

 

But that dont sit right with the question  why YH was following  him even before the granny death ??( if it was after we can understand  he was fearing he saw him that day and went to get ride of him) 

 

But  no the photo saying he was following  him even before BR friend  was injured  and they  were meeting  for first time  in years  after the high school  betting  case 

 

 

My mind going to suffer  

 

3 hours ago, nrllee said:

Okay watched till the end of Ep6.  I am not enthused about where the writer is taking us with the story.  I am getting feelings of dejavu (GG14DAYS).  Will give her another week to redeem herself but it’s not looking particularly promising.  So YH did the killings?  Even if he didn’t, what he did to BR doesn’t sit well with me.  So even if he was chasing the killer and thought BR was the one doing the killings, taking a hammer to his head isn’t normal behavior.

I get you dear , really I always  say I dont mind darkness  or evil trun in the story as long as they found it right ,logically  and in good written  plot  that make sense

I was here written  the craziest  theories  so I can after clamming  down accept  what they doing but the problem  they need to explain  the events  in good logic and in a way that fit the timeline 

 

After all we not going to set here all this time making timelines  and very good anyalse  to found out that they give wrong clues to just fool us and they cant themselves  solve that trick  they make us believe in ( solve that and explain  it well and I stand with all respect  to that perfect written) 

2 hours ago, rainbowwarm said:

had the same feeling before, if BR is the killer/the son of the killer, he would probably do the same thing like his dad - he just wanted somebody to give birth to his child...

But there can also be a theory that BR just knew the bird couldn’t live longer somehow so he “let” it go...lol

If he really is, then he more scary then HHS in many levels , we talking  about hunting  and causing this girl pain at many stages before grooming her 

 

@nrllee I understand  your  confusion  here, let the logic explaining of events aside , the bigger  problem  is the massage  here 

I am too sign of to see the battle  between the born nature  and environmental and the writer said she want to build  a story where psycho  feel remorse  or know they have another choices for the victims  family sake 

but here if she only make every child who had the gene  a killers then that different  massage  it totally saying there no hope just kill them before  they born 

( that make the nature win in BR case and he just ended evil and the bad environment  win in YH case  when he has to suffer  all his life and also trun evil, so it just let aside the affect  of good environment here) 

 

 

I though and I still believe  that one of them if it BR or another should make it different  and it has to be a big part on the story just like the others  too not just show that a little by the end 

 

I still cant judge from what we saw I am saying crazy plots  coming but as I said I will wait they have the right to have chance to prove we wrong  

 

 

See we all know that BR can be killer but when they show that he really can be it wasn't  acceptable  not cause he cant be we know that but cause they didn't  make it sit good with the drama events  till now 

 

 

3 hours ago, nrllee said:

this is the line of argument that the writer is putting forth, then honestly why even bother trying to raise your children well?  Because if they are born bad, there’s no way you can change their temperament.  So you should just make sure you bear children that don’t have the gene.  And abort those who do.  What happened to innocent till proven

Yes that what I am talking about that what made me angry not just who the killer  

 

5 hours ago, ferily said:

: @nona88 about the whole body switching thing. Plot twist, Jae Hoon switched it's soul and brain with Bareum so now Bareum is the killer now, that's why we see him kill the bird  Also I feel like BR isn't the killer either, but I definitely agree with you about him being a psychopath. We are going to see his psychopath

Dear stop that I am fearing the writer can hear our crazy though and do that.

 

out of all the crazies  things I said I regret  joking about that the most,  they making body or soul swapping  ( really that not fantastic  or rom com ) please no

 

I maybe stop joking in this fourm from now on if that really was the case 

 

 

Okay let take the serious  round if BR  not jae hoon ( please writer , god) and  he didnt  kill all this people  and they only again mislead us to think he is jae  hoon and HHS son ( I will ignore  all the hints and the logic  outside  to say he not ) 

 But we all agree he was one of the baby's  with the psycho  gene( we agree on that from 2 episode  at least) 

 

Then  what the explain  if the bird murder , 

The only logic  have three explaining:

 

 

1. that Br  was aware and  trying  so hard all those year to control his pscho  side cause his good growing environment  raising in good family and good church  community  life but when he wake up after the injury  he was still not in his full control so his evil side take control ( I am trying to be logical here  as much as it possible but )  and he didnt  kill anyone  till now beside the poor bird 

 

 

2.  BR  had muilty  personality( I am trying here) , as his mother raise him and he himself had put to much effort  to win over his evil side , it cause burying  that side deep inside him with another personality  that was sleeping for  so long , that explain  the to much to believe  good personality we saw till ep 5  since he throw all  the bad feeling into the other personality ? And for logic side let see he just wake up so he still not a killer just for the timeline  of the events  benefit, when he couldn't  be in many places at the same time or fake his injury he didn't  do anything  till now, so it was the other personality  that show up when BR was weak mentally and kill the bird

 

 

3. Br  is the biggest  psycho ,  he the killer; he the head mind and he has people  work for him and follow  his orders  , some killing was doing by him and some by the one  of his partners  or followers  , since he enjoy watch the victims  reacting and the  game players closely  more then  the killing itself   

 

 

I am trying to be logic I refuse  the choice  where he was 100% innocent  before the someone smatch  his head ( since that more crazy and loving to make everyone  evil for little  reasons) 

Edit: if it choice  1 or 2 then the real  battle  between  natural  and neutral statring now 

 

 

As I am saying to myself  clam down they can just make sense out of this ( people  change and learn from there mistakes  it was so long from the GG14DAYS  drama days )

But I am fearing I am not the one who learn from my mistakes  this years was supposed  to be so good with so much good dramas but most of them them now go crazy behind  my what mind can take