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35 minutes ago, stroppyse said:
I think it's just that I don't really understand why anyone would be shipping SH with her ex at this point. I mean the bottom line is that she doesn't love him, regardless of how he might feel about her. Even knowing that he loves her and lying to her about him loving someone else as a mechanism to earn her some freedom isn't going to cause SH to love him. Putting aside that she loves JH now, the important point is that she doesn't love WS. So why should she re-commit herself to a loveless marriage, especially one that was a nightmare for her the first time around?
7 minutes ago, dukesa1122 said:You'd be surprised. I saw a couple of ig posts about WS. They are sympathizing him.
Saying why choose the high way when the way to WS path is not as hard as KJH's path. Plus he's handsome. Again, this is not from my mouth but from someone elses posts. ^^^If it were the old SooHyun she might re-marry WooSeok because it would benefit her family... That's essentially what she did the first time, is it not? So, apologies if I'm putting incorrect words into the mouths of SooHyun/WooSeok shippers, I think that some the folks who ship SooHyun/WooSeok are ultimately viewing it from the standpoint of "what would allow SooHyun to live a quiet and outwardly stress free life". With this sympathetic WooSeok who only has eyes for SooHyun, maybe love will blossom between them for real.
Do I want her to do something like this? No way
. Do I think that considering how public she and JinHyuk have been that remarriage would be a politically savvy move? Not really. It would look like she'd been strong-armed into it (again), and rather than gaining her father votes, it would backfire. It's hard to re-build a so-called "fairytale" when the princess is off on an adventure of her own...
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30 minutes ago, thistle said:
He is weak because he has allowed his mother to rule him
Soooo WooSeok is the real "mama's boy" in this drama? Not JinHyuk after all?
@charlieblue17 I think it's both? JinHyuk cares about his parents and how his involvement with a chaebol is going to affect them and their quiet lives. And he also is still yearning for SooHyun. He can't go back to Seoul until he and SooHyun have worked out whether or not to stay together. Going back prematurely might hurt SooHyun rather than help her.
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6 minutes ago, leedonghaek said:
cr : odetoyouth0616
Why are they so cute?!?! Also, this was such a good throwback to when JinHyuk drunkenly leaned in through her car window. Cute then and cute now.
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I'm so glad that the Encounter team came back with such a strong episode. Although I missed the first 20 minutes and am super excited to see all the lovey-dovey parts with subs later
, what really made me happy was how perfectly the episode took me from the high of the JinSoo couple's first kiss to the dreadful low of SooHyun's ex-hubby coming at her with that weak-@$$ proposal (I felt so sick and sorry for him and for her having to listen to it. Get some help WooSeok!), to the terrible first meeting between JinHyuk and SooHyun's mother (it was one thing for SooHyun's ex-MiL to have been nasty, but for JinHyuk to see firsthand that SooHyun's own mother is just the same )
While I was watching, what I found myself thinking most about (other than wanting to reach into the screen and give JinHyuk a hug) was how our couple is going to resolve all this. It's such a terrible mess! I mean they like each other alot, but as we saw today, everything outside of their relationship is placing pressure on them. If in the worst-case scenario they break up, it's not like JinHyuk will live down the infamy of dating TaeKyung's ex-daughter in law any time soon. There's no going back to being a regular guy, for him. Or not for a long time anyway. So I wonder if in the upcoming episodes we'll see JinHyuk decide to really throw all caution to the wind and completely find another job, far away from the safe cocoon of his childhood home and equally far from the nasty commentary and fighting going on in Seoul.
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@tlireal THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE LINK!!!!!
And thanks to everyone who kindly posted the translations and IG links and screen caps, you guys are seriously the best!!
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On 12/31/2018 at 1:50 AM, angelineong said:
Hmmm..I beg to differ. Since a long time ago, now, I have this second lead syndrome again. PBG is great but I also like Director Cha to be with her ex-hubby. He did so many things secretly for her. Awwww....... moreover, he is not bad looking, intelligent, rich and most importantly adore Director Cha and always aspire to protect her. Secretly.
I seem to be on a WooSeok kick now... sorry everyone. But I just wanted to say that while I don't have second lead syndrome (and I almost never do lol) I am super happy that the writer gave us such a good second lead. Like I want a whole drama just about WooSeok falling apart and learning how to put himself back together again. I want to see just how much he and his mother are alike. Does he also not see people as people, unless they're important like SooHyun? Does he plan things out to the last detail like his mother does? Does he have friends?? There's so much scope for the imagination and so little time to explore it in.
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5 hours ago, dukesa1122 said:
I quoted the part when you said that JWS made it look like his love was recent. I think that was done on purpose because how else can he explain about everything that he did for her while they were married upto to their divorce? The fake mistress? There’s alot of explaining thats attached to deep emotions right there.
Although I am not rooting for JWSxCSH I would like the guy to have his scene. I would like to see him confess and be all out with CSH. Starting with their marriage upto this time. I would like to see him bowl out and cry. God knows he needed to cry to release those long overdue emotions he has been holding in.
Yes! WooSeok needs someone (not his mother!) to just break down with. Someone he can trust. Not someone he pays to be around him and responds awkwardly to personal questions (that bit with the secretary after WooSeok's chat with JinHyuk at the bus stop gave me toe-curling second hand embarrassment), not some syncophant who will only say nice words.
He needs a real friend who will see him at his worst and still be there the next morning, like Secretary Jang is with SooHyun. Like what WooSeok is yearning to have with SooHyun. The worst part is, SooHyun only sees the surface of him. She cannot trust his words because WooSeok is unwilling to or does not know how to communicate earnestly with her. She only trusts him when they're doing a deal. Which I guess means that she trusts his sense of good business ethics and not much else..
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8 hours ago, bebebisous33 said:
He doesn't want to leave things to fate and nature.
8 hours ago, bebebisous33 said:there is nothing natural in his love confession
8 hours ago, bebebisous33 said:So far, he still lives with his mother which explains why chairman Kim feels entitled to meddle in his private life
8 hours ago, bebebisous33 said:Moreover, JWS has always been shown seating with his back turned away from the windows. His attitude underlined his refusal to pay attention to the outside world, like in the episode 5,
First off, lovely exploration of WooSeok via his surroundings. I agree with you: he is cut off from the world.
By habit, as was probably trained into him by his parents when he was a child. I've imagined that WooSeok was treated just as SooHyun was by her mother. Never allowed to grow close to his peers because he was too important, too superior in status compared the other children. Now, as an adult, his imprisonment has become a choice. He certainly appears to believe in his own superiority as evidenced by his blatant theft of someone else's purchase (the dress SooHyun didn't want). He certainly has not made any moves in the past 4 years to fix the things that went wrong between his mother and SooHyun. Instead, he maintained the status quo by remaining in the fake relationship.
To me, the fact that he likes SooHyun is more evidence that WooSeok has no intention of leaving his jail. He just wants someone to be inside the cage with him to make the prison time less painful. I would even guess that WooSeok is a little afraid of leaving his home. Better the devil he knows (his mother), than the devil he doesn't (the real world with no back up, no unlimited credit cards, no secretaries, no power). After all, this devil raised him and loves him (in her own, twisted way) and has probably given him everything he ever wanted-- including SooHyun.
8 hours ago, bebebisous33 said:Saying it so, CSH becomes the object of his affection
As you say, SooHyun was, and is, the object of his affection. It's my belief that Chairwoman Kim orchestrated that loan to SooHyun's mother, as the bait that would land her (and WooSeok) exactly what they wanted. Political and actual marriage. It's likely that one of the publicity stunts that SooHyun participated in, SooHyun caught WooSeok's eye. And rather than approaching her naturally, WooSeok had his mother arrange it. He probably didn't know, or care to know, how his mother boxed in SooHyun's parents. All he cared about was the result-- a chance to meet her and win her over.
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1 hour ago, gumtaek said:
BTS...Kim Jin.Hyuk
A question I'd like to pose to all of you: Why is the drama entitled Boyfriend?
Hmmm... Because as Secretary Jang told JinHyuk: SooHyun has never dated before and in many people's lives, their first love (first boyfriend/girlfriend relationship) is a milestone event that is memorable for a long time. I know I still remember the first time a boy I had a crush on, also said he liked me too... It was a very long time ago and it still brings a smile to my face.
So ignoring the whole "will they have a happily ever after ending or not" question that consumes my mind lol, I think SooHyun having a boyfriend is just one of many firsts that she's going to have in her new life. Just my two cents though.
Spoiler@thistle It's unfortunate that you felt like you had to stop joining the thread!! But it is an open forum, so just post whatever your heart desires and I bet you anything someone will take you up on it. happy watching
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So I’ve just started episode 4 of my too-many-times-to-count rewatch and I feel like I’ve had one of those lightbulb Eureka moments...
I hadn’t realized before now that it wasnt JinHyuk who confessed first— it was SooHyun. And it was perfectly tailored to him, artist that he is. Nothing so straightforward as calling him, but instead reaching out across the distance between them through song. I’m sure by that point SooHyun had already looked up the translation of the lyrics and knew exactly what the words meant that she was sending him, on top of the fact that it was a song specific to the two of them.
No wonder JinHyuk is almost bursting with this overly pleased with himself energy, in the wake of telling SooHyun he missed her (too).
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1 hour ago, dukesa1122 said:
Hope our OTP is fine. SHK gets runny nose easily.
I wonder why they weren’t bundled up by their stylist though. I bet they have hot packs stuck all over them underneath their thin clothes! Poor things. At least the staff probably can wear as much coats and gloves as they want.
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2 hours ago, bebebisous33 said:
I agree with you. With this statement, JH makes it clear that he won't give in due to the pressure. I also sense that CSH feels terrible as she thinks, she is somehow responsible for all this. Nevertheless, I believe that JH will force her to become more brave and courageous. When he told her that she would hesitate with him, his remark incited her to take the initiative. Hence I think that JH's words will have an impact on her.
And that's why he is so different from JWS, actually the exact opposite. He keeps following his mother's orders (his life, marriage, aso) and tried to stop his mother. All this time, he did some actions behind his mother's back. He never really confronted her therefore he let CSH suffer.
You make a good point: that because WooSeok never truly confronted his mother, therefore SooHyun suffered. I find myself curious what a real confrontation between WooSeok and his mother would look like, or rather if we'll ever see a real one.
We've already seen him threaten to cut ties with his mother if she doesn't leave off pressuring SooHyun, but obviously no such cutting ties has taken place. In my head, I think perhaps his mother has heard him make all of these types of token protests in the past, when his heart was engaged, but knows that when push comes to shove her son isn't truly willing to put everything on the line for someone else. All of which goes back to WooSeok being trapped in his position and not understanding that there is a worthwhile world to live in, outside that of the mega-rich one he has inhabited since birth.
Going back to the beginning of your comment, I hope the writer will show us that even WooSeok has a breaking point (maybe I should say building point?), past which he will not let his mother push him. And use that to mirror the way in which JinHyuk has so far not bowed to any pressure (and probably will continue not giving in), just as he'll encourage SooHyun not to give into pressure either.
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@enigmatic_zephy That's correct. No new episode this week. New episodes are next week in the new year.
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16 minutes ago, Tola Ir said:
I think his mask might represent two characters - Tin man and a knight.
A knight in shining armor come to rescue the damsel in distress? That kind of applies to both SooHyun and JinHyuk toward each other lol
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1 hour ago, ihyw said:
I wonder if any of you are doing this, too. Have found myself compulsively re-watching the final scenes of three episodes now. The first was JH's rescue of SH when she was under public attack from the director. Could not get enough of watching JH walk across the room to her like her knight in shining armor. Then I couldn't get enough of watching SH rescue JH from the reporter's public attack by publicly admitting their "some" relationship. I love the way she smiles across the crowded room to him even talking to him with her eyes. And now the final scenes of this episode with the OTP's tender New Year's Eve first kiss. Three perfect happy endings--hope this trend continues and we're heading for a brave, loving, tender feel-good ending like these for the final episode.
So glad I'm not the only one! I've been rewatching the final scenes (and I may have replayed the kiss scene about a zillion times now
), and I love that they both get to save each other and neither tries to hide how giddy they are to be receiving such public displays of affection.
Now that the holiday time is here, I've started rewatching all the scenes where the parents are included. And as I'm watching, I've been having all these thoughts about what the production team is trying to tell us by giving these three very different sets of parents to look at. Well, more like four if we include Fairy Godfather Nam lol.
I find it interesting how family-focused two out of the three mothers are, while the other one is hell-bent on her own goal. Yet the results are so widely different. Chairwoman Kim has a son that's terribly damaged and now as a grown man is finally (maybe? hopefully?) learning how to stand up for what he wants. Was it the Chairwoman's ambition that stifled him? Or is it because she was a nasty piece of work all along? SooHyun's mother is just as twisted in her own way, from what we've seen, but her child turns out good, although not undamaged. And finally JinHyuk (and JinMyung) have a mother just as devoted to her sons as Chairwoman Kim is to hers. How are we to understand what the underlying message is?
Is it something straightforward, like JinHyuk's mother has said "women should stay home and quietly focus on their families"? Or is it something like "what you sow is what you reap."? I mean, no one can deny that JinHyuk's mother and WooSeok's mother loves their sons fiercely, right? Perhaps even the message is something yet more subtle. That it is difficult to be a woman, to have ambitions and dreams and desires and have no outlet. That it is difficult to be a mother and juggle your own dreams and desires with the duties and responsibilities of motherhood. That successful motherhood takes courage, sacrifice, hard work and above all love.
I don't know if these are the messages, but these are the thoughts I've had while watching. And as I watch, I wonder what do my fellow watchers see?
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55 minutes ago, vu_hoa1983 said:
As for SHK, I feel her acting is underrated. Many care about her age and beauty, what type of makeup, clothing, hairstyle she has because she is herself is a brand. But I really love her subtle acting and how she always creates great chemistry with her co-stars. And how come she manages to be so beautiful in every angle? The scene where she and PBG have coffee in episode 5, looking straight to the sea is like a great picture. In fact, these two have great visual that each shot of them together is beautiful.
You've really taken the words from my mouth! She's just. so. mind-blowingly. good. in every scene. I never watched SHK in anything before this drama, but now I am a real fan. Next Wednesday and Thursday, I'm even going to try one episode of her most recent works to see what else of hers I might fall in love with.
One of the things I really enjoyed most about seeing SHK's SooHyun is how she shows SooHyun grow and develop. That lyric about "You're my flower and I'm your bee" is extremely appropriate to the JinSoo relationship. By being together, both of them are turning into better versions of themselves and isn't that what a relationship is supposed to do after all?
Although I think I was probably most impressed with SooHyun's growth in that scene she had with Director Choi at the beginning of Episode 8. SooHyun was all simmering anger and bared teeth and I loved it! I want more of her protecting what's important to her, and really I just want more of SooHyun doing more than just enduring and instead standing up for herself and fighting for her happiness.
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No worries! You’re not being a grinch @kingkong72!!! I fully agree with you regarding the possibility that a twist will occur, especially because I’ve been surprised in some fashion almost every episode. We will just agree to disagree.
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@utkim He is really cute lol. Half the time I just want to give him a hug and tell him have divorced his mother not his wife~
But that would unfilial so will probably not happen.
6 hours ago, larrysouth said:If recent history is any predictor, I am not sure how they describe the show is any indication of the ending. Even series listed as a romantic comedy does not necessarily play toward a predictable happy ending. In the most recent set of series, I have experienced a spy show where the OTP never actually got together; an airport series where we never got to see one of the OTP's faces in the final scene so are left guessing; a fantasy series where the main OTP remet each other but have no memory of their past lives together. Frankly, it is a little frustrating. I think we come to these series to see one message, "Love conquers all." When that does not happen, I usually feel a little letdown and disappointed.
I feel the same way! It feels unfair, and it also makes me wonder why the writer and production team spent all those hours developing characters that seemed like they were really in love, only to pull the rug out from underneath the audience’s feet. Don’t they want their story to leave a lingering, positive memory?
So far, it does seem like the Encounter/Boyfriend team wants to tell a story that ends well for all its characters. Where even if the characters have an ending that is bittersweet, at least it’s not hopeless.
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2 minutes ago, utkim said:
I rewatch now ep 2 and i wonder if SW ever showed his love to SH when they were married at all bcos SH told him to tell his mom the truth what he felt if MIL asked him. I might misunderstood, but i interpret this as SH had never felt WS loved her when they were married, then i wonder who is then to blame? SH or WS?
Oooh. That's a really good point...
A lot of pages ago, there had been discussion about how both SooHyun and WooSeok were probably at fault for the marriage failing. But if SooHyun was actually trying to fashion herself into the woman she thought WooSeok wanted (whatever the heck that means cause it doesn't seem like he gave much direction) then maybe when he didn't respond positively, SooHyun assumed that her attempts to make him like her had failed. In truth, WooSeok was probably too scared to tell her what he really wanted. In which case, can we assign something as strong as blame to him? I don't think I can, but that's because I am still having sympathy for the guy. I can't even assign blame to SooHyun. She went in with her eyes open and probably did try to be the good wife (considering how hard she tries at everything else I can't imagine her slacking off in this instance).
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@kingkong72 your scenario is calling for SooHyun to decide that WooSeok's silent sacrifices are worth re-entering a household where her MIL actively despises her.
If she did remarry WooSeok, wouldn't that essentially send him the message of: "Ah. I don't have to actively work at making the relationship between her and my mother better, as long as I do these little protective acts behind her back." So far as we've seen, SooHyun responds best when people are direct with their words and actions. (go back and rewatch the potato pancake scene and the 'woman I'm talking to is my mother' scene)
From that standpoint, I find it hard to believe that SooHyun would return to a man who struggled before, during, and after their marriage to tell her the most of basic of things... such as "I like you." Even if the JinSoo couple does not stay together, I don't see any evidence that just because WooSeok made sacrifices for her and "loves" her, that would lead to SooHyun deciding she owes it to WooSeok to marry him again.
Edit: Maybe I'm just being too rigid? But being in that toxic house again might cause SooHyun to need more than sleeping pills to get through the day... I don't think anyone's silent sacrifices are worth needing to take pills, but that's just my opinions
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Ahhh! I'm having so much fun back-reading through all the commentary. I don't even feel sad that the drama is taking a break next week-- chatting with all of you will more than make up for it.
With that said~ who wants to bet with me that the reason things start getting noisy is because WooSeok is the one who saw our JinSoo couple exchanging a New Year's kiss and decided all bets were off?
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Saying why choose the high way when the way to WS path is not as hard as KJH's path. Plus he's handsome. Again, this is not from my mouth but from someone elses posts. 
. Do I think that considering how public she and JinHyuk have been that remarriage would be a politically savvy move? Not really. It would look like she'd been strong-armed into it (again), and rather than gaining her father votes, it would backfire. It's hard to re-build a so-called "fairytale" when the princess is off on an adventure of her own...
I wonder why they weren’t bundled up by their stylist though. 
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Thank you for saying this a million times more eloquently than I could have!! In my mind, HyeIn and Secretary Jang are these great mirror images of each other. Both are strong supporters of their friends, both have no problem speaking their mind when they perceive something as a threat. They take their care to such a level that they're willing to confront whatever they see as the source of the issue, face to face. They're these fierce mama bears... and I'm kind of glad I've not made any RL friends who are quite at this level of protective!
But for SooHyun it must be nice (some of the time) to have a friend like that at her back. Especially considering how she was raised. For JinHyuk, I think it's nice that he as at least one true friend that won't sway in the wind with every rumour she hears. Though I still hope she and JinHyuk have a frank talk about everything, and he asks her to rein her protectiveness in, just a bit.