[ Drama 2016] The K2 더 케이투

[siddo]

One must be wondering why YJ of all people would protect Anna and why not JSJ? There might be a strong reason for YJ to do all this, to reveal Anna to the world 'now' of all times. Remember the contract she has with JSJ? While we all think it's to control JSJ using AN as a tool , it could also be YJ protecting AN from JSJ and in return giving him what he wants ie. power, money, the highest position in the country that of a President. But why would JSJ kill her own daughter? Because greed! Greed for anything is enough make one to go against their loved ones.. And why would YJ protect AN, because as @perfectsmilebiassaid Anna's mom and YJ could be close friends too and she could be doing it for her late friend or because she has no child of her own!. Sure she behaves harshly to AN but not forget she herself feels miserable for it...

 

 

@bebebisous33 Hi fi buddy! Did you notice we just echoed same thoughts. Of YJ protecting Anna.  And you worded it even better! I so agree.. it could be that way too... YJ fans hang in on there's still hope. 

And not to forget your analysis on posters and colors is remarkable...

[nona88]

another random  thoughts maybe the one who kidnap ANNA wasn't the brother but YJ man ???????? maybe she start to be more scared of her that she  cant wait anymore and maybe that will help JH make his choice what the thing he  most want to have now ? revenge ? his loyalty to YJ deal ? or ANNA a live ? 

 as i said it random thoughts and the bigger chance it the brother who did it - but  since  from the VIDEO they trying to hint that the brother did that so i have my own   trusting issues with preview playing with us in the past 

what JH wanted till now is ANNA being safe , and stay a live but that not enough for ANNA , even if we forget about the revenge part , ANNA STILL want to break out from YJ prison want to have her freedom and normal life and that cant happen if she didnt fight or destroy YJ since she can never allow her to do this even if she promise that she will never till who is her father ( do you remember the old couple , YJ trust JH words that they know nothing but wanted to kill them cause she cant let her fate on even 0.0001 % that he lying ) so yeh YJ dont let unsure things in her life , and ANNA is in the death list of YJ no matter what it take her to wait for , and even if she keep her  a life , as soon as, YJ become the first lady , ANNA going to keep ANNA in even worst place away since she cant keep her where father can find her after he get the power to destroy YJ 

JH has to understand that ANNA will not live her rest of life being safe for him , she has the right to fight for her life , i think he need to meet this dilma now , since all he thoughts until now is to keep her safe and smiling like a pretty bird in cage , but now if ANNA WANT MORE she has now choice but to go with full force with YJ and as YJ said " it war " and now back to even ANNA wanted her revenge too .

so yeh MR JH , ANNA may do studied things now and go dealing with  evil people and make war with YJ and you dont like this , but that her life , she had to fight for it , you said yourself she adult now and you ( even when i love you) and YJ and her father cant keep forcing her living in between so she can keep being safe for you JH who love her , for YJ who fear her and for father who thinking he protecting her

 i love you JH dont worry i know you will come to get that fast and help ANNA too  

 

[Guest julie721]

@bebebisous33 oh you're honoring me with color analysis when I did a crappy job and you did waaaay better than me? Well, you're WELCOME!! ~I'm sorry, I am that "shameless.."

33 minutes ago, siddo said:

A team against whom? (JSJ & Her Secretary KDM) or (JSJ & VP of JSS) or (KDM & VP of JSS) or (JSJ & Step Brother) or (KDM & SB) or (PKS & SB) or ( PKS & KDM). Whoa! There are many alliances that could be a threat to her. We really don't know who the VP of JSS and KDM actually serve. Is it really YJ or JSJ or their own good?

@siddo dear, I was reading your post when suddenly I got to these parts.. I was like, WHAT the????? Hahahahaha those abbreviations confuse the heck out of me..JSJ-->Jang Se-Joon, KDM is Kim Dong-Mi (Sec Kim) right? I know JSS.. VP is??? Vice President/Victoria Preston or who? SB, PKS who??? I'm sorry I'm so messed up..  Care to help and enlighten me? My brain's not as brilliant enough to digest such difficult subject.. 

@nona88 finally you show up.. I've been waiting for you to join the party... I decided earlier to lighten up and make the thread merrier. See how I succeeded right? (Exactly it's because of the preview was released, but I'm shameless anyway.. Lol) 

 

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[nona88]

4 minutes ago, julie721 said:

@bebebisous33 oh you're honoring me with color analysis when I did a crappy job and you did waaaay better than me? Well, you're WELCOME!! ~I'm sorry, I am that "shameless.."

@siddo dear, I was reading your post when suddenly I got to these parts.. I was like, WHAT the????? Hahahahaha those abbreviations confuse the heck out of me..JSJ-->Jang Se-Joon, KDM is Kim Dong-Mi (Sec Kim) right? I know JSS.. VP is??? Vice President/Victoria Preston or who? SB, PKS who??? I'm sorry I'm so messed up..  Care to help and enlighten me? My brain's not as brilliant enough to digest such difficult subject.. 

@nona88 finally you show up.. I've been waiting for you to join the party... I decided earlier to lighten up and make the thread merrier. See how I succeeded right? (Exactly it's because of the preview was released, but I'm shameless anyway.. Lol) 

 

 hey dear sorry for being late but i need to sleep too and i need to go for work  life more easy i  can just enjoy the drama with everyone her - and you did well , to come here finding pages to read after the forums was sleeping is just make the life so fun 

[kaoriharang]

18 minutes ago, nona88 said:

another random  thoughts maybe the one who kidnap ANNA wasn't the brother but YJ man ???????? maybe she start to be more scared of her that she  cant wait anymore and maybe that will help JH make his choice what the thing he  most want to have now ? revenge ? his loyalty to YJ deal ? or ANNA a live ? 

 as i said it random thoughts and the bigger chance it the brother who did it - but  since  from the VIDEO they trying to hint that the brother did that so i have my own   trusting issues with preview playing with us in the past 

what JH wanted till now is ANNA being safe , and stay a live but that not enough for ANNA , even if we forget about the revenge part , ANNA STILL want to break out from YJ prison want to have her freedom and normal life and that cant happen if she didnt fight or destroy YJ since she can never allow her to do this even if she promise that she will never till who is her father ( do you remember the old couple , YJ trust JH words that they know nothing but wanted to kill them cause she cant let her fate on even 0.0001 % that he lying ) so yeh YJ dont let unsure things in her life , and ANNA is in the death list of YJ no matter what it take her to wait for , and even if she keep her  a life , as soon as, YJ become the first lady , ANNA going to keep ANNA in even worst place away since she cant keep her where father can find her after he get the power to destroy YJ 

JH has to understand that ANNA will not live her rest of life being safe for him , she has the right to fight for her life , i think he need to meet this dilma now , since all he thoughts until now is to keep her safe and smiling like a pretty bird in cage , but now if ANNA WANT MORE she has now choice but to go with full force with YJ and as YJ said " it war " and now back to even ANNA wanted her revenge too .

so yeh MR JH , ANNA may do studied things now and go dealing with  evil people and make war with YJ and you dont like this , but that her life , she had to fight for it , you said yourself she adult now and you ( even when i love you) and YJ and her father cant keep forcing her living in between so she can keep being safe for you JH who love her , for YJ who fear her and for father who thinking he protecting her

 i love you JH dont worry i know you will come to get that fast and help ANNA too  

 

 

Actually to be honest, i feel that this theory holds more wait.

if indeed YJ's step brother knows her secret, then i would think her option is to get rid of Anna or at least hid her under her control.

It makes sense right? I dont see why the brother would kidnap, at least now i cannot see it. maybe when the episode plays out we will understand more.

but indeed JH's heart is moving closer to Anna and he will do all that he can to protect her. JH looked real frantic when he was trying to find out where Anna is.

[riiko1988]

gaaahhh!! im at work! ive just checked if the preview of ep 9 is out and tadaaa!! omo!! im so hype! hahahha ok later guys! 

[TAoJC]

Sooo excited !!!!!!

This is war !!! I hope there will be an happy ending ! Anna but mostly JH will not remain safe with Yoo Jin ! 

looking forward for more OTP scenes !!!! huhuuhhu

[kaoriharang]

I rewatched ep 9, there was this short scene where Anna walked into the doctors office and the person talking to her was a woman, and yoona replied something like 'do i know you?'

I am curious as to how that person is, and since we saw JH running towards the doctors office and finding Anna missing. Maybe that person has something to do with Anna's disappearance as well.

And also YJ's step brother said something to the effect 'come alone or if not Anna would be in danger' i am not sure who he is talking to maybe JH maybe even YJ to test maybe how valuable Anna is or perhaps to find out is Anna really her 'daughter' so to speak.

I am sure that the step family know there is something about Anna because i mean they would have known if YJ was pregnant and had a child. So i am sure they know there is some mystery surrounding Anna as to whether they know everything I think if YJ has really tried to make sure Anna's existence is really wiped clean perhaps they dont know yet. But they know that they can use Anna as a weapon against YJ.

I take back what i say about YJ being the mastermind behind Anna's disappearance in preview of ep 9. it is looking more and more like the step brother is behind or if not maybe the voice of the woman when Anna walked into the room.

So many mysteries. gosh can friday come soon!

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Just a small point, i dont quite agree with that YJ is trying to protect Anna, if so i still dont see why she is so sadistic with Anna. Her words are just plain hurtful and destroys Anna. I dont see how many kind of reason you can give would justify what YJ has done. Regardless of whether or not YJ is trying to be a 'saint' with Anna. I dont see how that theory can work.

 

[bebebisous33]

2 hours ago, siddo said:

To all my fellow JeJin shippers and YJ fans , I know that you're disappointed in the way YJ's character is heading but please hang in there... I still see some hope. If only my guess would be correct which I think would not but let's take a chance and say what if..

So my guess is could YJ and JH have joined hands in protecting/ revealing Anna? I know it's hard to read/digest since I have written YJ here.. but I have an explanation. We all saw in epi 7 YJ asked JH to come to Cloud 9 right after she meets Anna in her room but that was never shown.. could it be a secret meeting between the only 2? Maybe the writers purposely wants to keep it hidden for the suspense element? Next day JH escorts Anna to her hidden house and all of sudden media gathers around her house and JH is ready with a plan to deal.. he even includes J4 and the housekeeper in it? In moments YJ reaches there with her men to 'kill' Anna? Really? In front of so many people? Wouldn't it have been easier for her to kill Anna when she was kept hidden without anyone's notice? I mean I really don't buy YJ to be that stupid to do in front of cameras lol.. another strange thing she does is what you all have said here 'to call herself as Anna's guardian and exposing herself to the cameras with her'. Why on earth would she do it? 

And The most strangest and suprising thing was her behaviour towards K2, J4 and the housekeeper. If she was that devilish she could have simply fired J4 and housekeeper from their jobs or worse kill them for 'betraying' her. Her question to K2 as to why he protected Anna and the way in which K2 answered, something really was off.. (the glares they were exchanging ,whoa) and shortly her talk in private with him about 'our opponents' hinted at them being a team. A team against whom? (JSJ & Her Secretary KDM) or (JSJ & VP of JSS) or (KDM & VP of JSS) or (JSJ & Step Brother) or (KDM & SB) or (PKS & SB) or ( PKS & KDM). Whoa! There are many alliances that could be a threat to her. We really don't know who the VP of JSS and KDM actually serve. Is it really YJ or JSJ or their own good? That itself could be a twist in the drama.

Your idea is really interesting and I love it very much!!!  To support your theory (YJ-JH working together): 

- I have just remembered that when YJ talked to JH in Cloud 9, she was alone. Even secretary Kim was sent away. So she is not sharing everything with Kim. Why? Because in my opinion, YJ knows deep down that Kim has another agenda than hers. I have no doubt that YJ knows that Kim loves her. 

- So let us imagine that YJ met JH later in Cloud nine again and discussed a new strategy: help Anna to live in the light. YJ knows that Kim wants to get rid of Anna. Secretary Kim has always proposed that solution to YJ many times. Then YJ always found an excuse and recently she proposed a solution, although Kim was against it: send her back to SK.  Only Anna heard that YJ called JH to visit her. Kim wasn't present either.  I believe that when YJ and JH met, Kim wasn't there too. In my opinion, YJ is acting in front of Kim too. And even her own husband is behaving like her, like for example in this scene. - She knows that Anna hates her due to her yelling in the episode 2 ("kill her"), therefore YJ is aware that Anna will never believe YJ. So if YJ tried to explain the whole situation, Anna would never listen to her. Anna has idolised her father for so long so that a simple but painful conversation in the hospital will never change her mind about YJ. 

- I know that JH told her to grow up and to make sure that YJ would never harm her... by describing her a bad person, JH makes sure that Anna trusts him. She only trusted him, after he had mentioned that he had promised to her father that he would take care of her and protect her. Maybe JH and YJ's strategy is not to change Anna's opinion about YJ first. YJ saw that Anna was really hurt after her conversation with her father. When YJ gave the order to kill Anna, it was in front of Kim. In order to make sure that Kim would never suspect YJ to collaborate with JH, she had to act as mad and angry. Yet, she never gave the order to get rid of the people who were supposed to have betrayed her. Notice that SJ was at the police station, when Anna gave the interview. BY claiming, she is Go's daughter, she also escapes from her father who certainly wanted to use her with an arranged marriage. However, Anna has no idea about it because she only saw YJ each time after a bad event in her life.  

@kaoriharang YJ is not acting like a saint towards Anna. She is always confronting her with the truth. Her father could meet her, but he never did. But I prefer someone like YJ compared to a father who keeps lying and making her hope. Even Anna realised that she had idealised her father for too long. 

[kaoriharang]

@bebebisous33 I agree that yes unlike the father YJ never sugar coats the truth, but the theory of YJ protecting Anna i dont know honestly so far base on the drama and the storyline. It is a very loose theory, unless somewhere down the line there is a direction change. And if there is one, i want it to be explained. Because i cant see how YJ is protecting Anna. If anything what she had done to the child has very much broken her rather than protect her.

Even if she was no longer hidden, YJ gave Anna no fighting chance to survive in the real world. That is not protection.

[alekaonu]

Annyeong K2 chingu deul

Wow suddenly this thread is alive again  after my earlier post. Then @julie721 replied me. Until now more posts especially after the video preview for this coming Friday and Saturday. Great! Let's keep this thread alive. Sorry I won't be able to contribute much as in video and pictures but I will be a loyal fan of this thread 

Where's everyone now? Working? Lunch? Dinner? Sleep?

[Bambiina]

There was two sharpshooter ordered by YJ to kill Anna, There were others on standby to kill Anna in case the sharpshooters fail (which J4 took care). wasn't the plan too elaborate if its just for show?

 If YJ and JH are together in protecting Anna, why did JH has to fight the body guard (the one that supersede JSS president),  What if JH lost the fight and got kill... he was injured (though not that serious). i don't think they were just acting.

Why did JH has to say 'I will protect you from YJ too' to Anna. 

Why did YJ need to remind JH of his reason joining JSS... Why? (Remember the scene she said I want to speak to my chinggu alone). Did they need to 'act' that far'? They were alone.

Since the backstory of YJ is very vague, they can just change/rewrite/write the story as they think right.. But it will be too far fetch and just doesn't match/relate to what have been unveiled so far (I can't understand caging a human being, a harmless little girl is actually keeping Anna safe). it will do more harm than good.

and constantly telling a little girl 'You kill your mom' ... Is it also part of an act? ... Wasn't it a mental torture?

Edit to add :

Sec. Kim and YJ share a lot of dirty secret. Sec Kim can betray YJ anytime with all the information.. killing people.. Scheming .. Etc etc. I am sure they shared special bond.... All cloud 9 members must be someone YJ trust ... they can backstab her anytime with all the information ESP Sec Kim. Would YJ share her plans killing innocents with someone she doubts?

[siddo]

@julie721 Lol, hehe.. You're right till Vice President ie.VP of JSS. And SB means step brother and PKS spells Park Kwan Soo, the ruling president. Had to use it since my post was already long and I was tired to write full names :p. 

@bebebisous33: Thank you. And Wow, you figured it out, chingu! That's what I was trying to convey that Kim Dong Mi, her secretary, maybe or may not be on her side. She could very well have her own agenda or must be working with either YJ's step brother or PKS. You have explained very well & exactly the way I wanted to. Thank you so much for it. And another good point you mentioned about the marriage where JSJ promises Anna that once he becomes President, he would marry her off to some decent guy. But in of one K2 promos Anna was seen asking 'If dad becomes. President, do I have to die?'. Here we clearly come to know who's lying?? ...

[siddo]

Supposing that Since it was all an act just to deceive KDM/ VP of JSS, one can notice that K2 didn't kill the shooters. He just dragged them off.. and since the new man was send by KDM through her command; he had to take care of it.. though even here he didn't kill him.. It's pretty sure YJ must have told K2 which men would be of her side and which of KDM/VP. 

It's a fictional drama, sometimes what the writer/director shows to the audience need not be the truth because they have a list of episodes where they can actually reveal the plot. Some scenes, some conversations done in alone can be to deceive the audience to maintain the suspense of the show. Giving out hints as to who could be a potential villain, anti hero or a saviour but doesn't single them out. They like to keep it a surprise. For example I could give Kolta of Empress Ki. He was Huizong's beloved eunuch till the 45th or 46 the episode but all of sudden turned against him as the leader of Eagle house. A traitor. Likewise KDM/VP could be in this show.. who is know. We all are assuming somewhere..

[bebebisous33]

4 minutes ago, siddo said:

@julie721 Lol, hehe.. You're right till Vice President ie.VP of JSS. And SB means step brother and PKS spells Park Kwan Soo, the ruling president. Had to use it since my post was already long and I was tired to write full names :p. 

@bebebisous33: Thank you. And Wow, you figured it out, chingu! That's what I was trying to convey that Kim Dong Mi, her secretary, maybe or may not be on her side. She could very well have her own agenda or must be working with either YJ's step brother or PKS. You have explained very well & exactly the way I wanted to. Thank you so much for it. And another good point you mentioned about the marriage where JSJ promises Anna that once he becomes President, he would marry her off to some decent guy. But in of one K2 promos Anna was seen asking 'If dad becomes. President, do I have to die?'. Here we clearly come to know who's lying?? ...

My dear chingu... you're the first who proposed this theory which I find very refreshing because this would be a twist that people are not expecting. 

@Bambiina Thanks for pushing us to think if this theory is still possible. Even if you don't agree, I like it that you are trying to find some loopholes in this theory. So now, back to your questions:

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1- Why did JH has to say 'I will protect you from YJ too' to Anna. 

2- Why did YJ need to remind JH of his reason joining JSS... Why? (Remember the scene she said I want to speak to my chinggu alone). Did they need to 'act' that far'? They were alone.

3-  and constantly telling a little girl 'You kill your mom' ... Is it also part of an act? ... Wasn't it a mental torture?

1- In my opinion, Anna would never trust someone who is on YJ's side. By keeping the appearance that YJ is dangerous, JH is not just earning her trust, he wants her to grow up so that she can stand on her own feet. She needs to free herself from YJ as well. YJ's ways of "protection" (based on our theory) are really bad as well. 

2- I had forgotten this. However, I can come with this point: Remember that the whole house is full of cameras as well. People can listen to their conversation... this is not the cloud 9!

3- To me, she kind of believes that Anna is to blame for this. First, Anna told this to the police inspector and she never changed her testimony. Moreover, she never received any help from a psychologist. Notice that they must have found the finger prints of Anna on the bottle. Anna said this because she felt guilty. She really wanted her mother to be sleeping as she hated her mother to be drunk. But she never really told anyone what happened back then. So the fingerprints, memory loss and her huge sense of guilt made YJ believe that Anna played a part in it. Finally, YJ is herself emotionally unstable. She hurts people who hurt her... Anna had just told her that her father never loved her. So it was a payback for the pain received. By the way, I am not supporting YJ in this. YJ has huge big daddy issues that were never solved. She needs herself to see a psychologist, but notice that she doesn't that kind of help for Anna as well and that's really telling. She is denying that she has herself real psychological problems.  

[feima]

At last the preview! Now to wait for Friday!  Mm mm did you all notice that JH uses the "ice ding" hand signal to Anna while working.  Geez! Another two more days *patiently waiting* I think or perhaps not, it is more impatiently waiting *sigh* 

[feima]

12 hours ago, klgirl said:

 

I watched JCW's Healer, Smile Donghae, Empress Ki, Warrior Baek Dong Soo and now K2. I will probably watch Five Fingers when he goes off to military service and I'll miss his sweet personality.   SYA so far none.

 

As for me, I watched all the above including Bachelor vegetable store.  SYA is also good in Mama and Assembly too! 

[grapefruit7]

7 hours ago, siddo said:

@bebebisous33Wow, another fantastic post by you. I didn't knew different colors had different meanings except for white and black.. and I'm glad that you're still one of us who have faith in YJ's character to have a good side. Awesome analysis on both YJ and JSJ.

@perfectsmilebiasExcellent post about mental illness. A round of applause from me because I think mental health needs to be discussed and not stigmatise by the people.

@jagmac24_111a As a JeJin shipper I welcome you to our club! Despite knowing that our ship isn't going to sail till the end, I'm sure we'll cherish our JeJin with whatever scenes we're given with

 

Count me in! Actually i am Team YJ all the way, with or without JH and/or Anna. 

SYA did very good job And i super like her!

[MindfulL]

The rooftop scene at the end of episode 8 is so well-executed. The way Jeha gently pulls Anna closer and holds her feels so natural. How he ruffles her hair and pats her back, while Anna was crying like a child. Her sound of crying and breathing gives you that sympathizing feeling. The way Jeha stares blankly into space depicts the feeling of a man feeling helpless towards his young lover's sorrow. The whole scene is so tender, romantic yet angsty.

 

I also really like the scene in Episode 7 where Jang Se Joon finally meets his daughter. The acting in this drama is simply flawless. All those raw emotions are so deeply portrayed.