Jemara Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 They look so happy together ****************** 21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post WildDivine69 Posted October 4, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted October 4, 2016 I just want to give my personal view on the character of HY. Yes, she appears to be a pitiful and foolish woman because of her unconditional love for LY, but I've never felt any emotional connection to her, nor any sympathy. I don't hate HY at all. I agree, she is not a bad or evil person. To me, she was simply introduced too late in the game and has been written as a somewhat of a nuisance(following LY into the alley, showing up places unannounced). IF she had been written closer to her RL person/character in the novel(politically strong), I probably would have understood her better. LY has such a severe level of indifference towards HY, it's not even funny. For her to not only accept that willingly but call it love...I'm sorry, I can't get with that. She questions why he doesn't want to marry her...ummm, why should he? They're not friends, they're barely acquainted. Seeing as how LY dotes on his younger siblings, as the princess' childhood friend she and LY should have cross paths on at least a couple of occasions. That they had not always seemed idk, weird. If we're to compare HY's unrequited love to YS, the difference in the dynamics is the friendship he built with RO and the fact that RO has, for the most part been receptive to having that type of relationship. LY never gave any indication to HY their relationship would EVER be anything than what it is, barely cordial. He was VERY clear to the point of telling her she'd be lonely. HY chose to hide her feelings saying she doesn't care and it's strictly business. LY never asked her or her family to be his savior, his father did. So no, I just do not feel any empathy for her. In the drama, everyone wants to marry the person they love, him included. If HY went through such lengths to reject YS, a wonderful man, in marriage, why is it not okay for LY to do the same? I know...History. Maybe in these last four episodes they'll somehow develop a more cordial relationship between them. Just maybe she'll show something that helps me connect to her. I don't know if it will be too late for my personal opinion of her character to change, but if they can make me kinda understand Eunuch Ma in one episode, it definitely could happen. 27 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildDivine69 Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 @Jillia LOL, you read my mind. 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Purestupidity Posted October 4, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted October 4, 2016 OMG it's flooding here in my house, yes...., with my tears!!!! Niagara Falls level! It is major! Ep 14 1) when both CP and RO were looking at the moon and thinking of their sweet past conversation. CRY......It started as a river. 2) when RO cried in front of YS. CRY......Then it became a lake. 3) when CP cried while looking and holding RO's bracelet. BIG CRY..... (I was practically heaving!) It's now officially monsoon season. 4) when they met in the end of this episode. That's it! WTH here comes Niagara Falls. 26 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myicecreamcakexoxo Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 yeah, i'm also confused about the identity of the person who sent the letter. judging by PM Kim's conversation with the other two ministers, at first i thought yeong and raon meeting was a trap set by him in order to corner both of them. but then the messenger said that the letter was from chief eunuch han. why would he specifically say this? unless PM Kim has found out that chief eunuch han in fact belongs to the rebel faction. but i don't think he knows so perhaps PM Kim is still considering the idea of trapping yeong and raon when he was talking to his minions. i want to say the letter is from yoon sung but again, that means he has to know about chief eunuch han's involvement with the rebels...which i don't think he does (i swear that guy knows too many secrets for his own good ) so other options would be either: a. byung yeon (kind of unlikely), b. chief eunuch han himself (but then why do we get the scene where the palace guards are marching to raon's hiding place?), c. yeong (?) -> maybe he found out from yoon sung about raon's hiding place, and then as an excuse to meet her (cuz if he uses his real name then there's a high chance that she won't come and meet him), he uses chief eunuch han's name since he knows that the chief eunuch "owes" raon and her mother something (and assuming that yeong knows that raon knows about this too). aaargh. idk. my brain hurts so much rn. both from crying and studying too much and now overthinking/analyzing every single thing that's moonlight-related. sigh. how am i supposed to live until monday comes? i'm just going to basically camp here 24/7. my whole world rotates around moons right now. goodbye sun. i don't need you anymore. can somebody create a magic pill that will allow me to sleep through the whole week and then wake me up once it's monday again? ...nobody? yeah, of course. what am i thinking. and i still have that midterm to go through. asdlfka;lsdjfka;lsflkjdfa;sdf btw, i found out an interesting tidbit about the flower that raon and her mother were talking about: white egret orchid. source: http://creationwiki.org/White_egret_flower until next time, moonlighters~! 22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildDivine69 Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 1 minute ago, Jillia said: But I give Kudos to Chae Soo Bin... I can see why many people love her and want to see her in her own leading role. Agreed. CSB the actress, I like. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yuuinokokoro Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 @Jillia I agree, it is a bit strange. At least he should have a personal guard stopping her from entering the garden. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yuuinokokoro Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 @Jillia and it is a bit strange that they are wondering around without escort inside the palace grounds. (when they passed each other by) 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yuuinokokoro Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 @Jillia Okay maybe eunuch Jang is resting, but if I am not mistaken the eunuchs and the guards where on a rotating schedule. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yuuinokokoro Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 @Jillia Yea, it is a bit irritating, the repeat rejection of Ha-Yeon. It leaves me with a bad taste that she can't give up. Before I get it 'cause she was encourage by Ra-On to not give up. But if it was me I wouldn't react like she does, by continuing to hassle Lee-Young with my feelings. It isn't like he in anyway have shown any interest in a relationship with her. If she only could be a bit more like Yon-Sung, I wouldn't have started to dislike her. (︶︹︺) 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yuuinokokoro Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 2 minutes ago, Jillia said: Oh geez.... the ending was so INTENSE FOR SO MANY REASONS!! Things fall into place but on the other hand I'm like this: But wow...... with the guards... and scheming ministers AND Ra On and Lee Yeong meeting again I can't imagine what's going to happen next week. But we will find out how Lee Yeong found out about Ra On. And I'm so worried and happy and worried again. Scared for the two because of the guards... even though it feels like a cop-out. kekeke.. either they are at a different place, the guards are in reality part of the rebels or Lee-Young has made an interference some how. (Well that is what I am hoping at least 《《o(≧◇≦)o》》) 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mioksf Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 50 minutes ago, Jillia said: The actress of Ra On's mother is killing it... I have been impressed with that actress, Yeo-jin Kim, since I saw her in Jewel in the Palace. She really blends into all her roles well. 17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yuuinokokoro Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 @Jillia Yes all for Ra-On, Ra-On for all (ᗒᗜᗕ)՛̵̖ 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post nataliakay Posted October 4, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted October 4, 2016 Heavy episode today. So many things, issues and thoughts going on with almost every character but the episode left me feeling like how our CP and Ra On were feeling throughout the entire episode tonight:- that is, nothing else matters but the deep feeling that they have for each other and how the separation only amplifies not only their love for each other but the need for them to have each other in the lives. If there was ever any doubt before this from anyone of their love and if there was ever a thought that anyone can penetrate the bond that both CP and Ra On have for each other, then to me at least CP and Ra On themselves are telling us and everyone tonight that that is not the case. Their heart has no room without each other. Case close. I have a few favourite moments in the episode and they are all obviously related to the show of how much the two are deeply missing and longing for each other. That subtle but desperate favour from CP to YS hoping to find out about Ra On; CP and Ra On bursting into tears because their heart hurts so bad and of course the ending when they finally met. I like it that they showed how CP is a bit insecure over how Ra On feels (just as he always does at times) when he hugged her then let out a sigh of relief when she hugged him back. Another scene that I also like is...when CP told HY to never come to the garden ever again. I have disliked her character from the very beginning. At first it was mainly because she just gets in the way, nothing much about it but after she put this facade of helping CP for the sake of her own feelings and for her self interest behind that mask she puts, I dislike her even more. Because all of us knew (ok some of us knew) when she made that deal with CP, it was not purely because she was an angel sent down with the ambition to help Joseon. It was always because of her feelings for CP. And i knew from that moment on that she would not just kept the marriage as just a deal and her feelings will only just guilt trip CP making CP feel guilty unnecessarily to have to treat her like that!. For example today, with her coming to CP like that all concerned and with that so obviously i-want-to-win-your-heart-and-make-you-fall-for-me- face, what do you expect CP to do. Even if CP only loves one person we know that he is a gentleman and i'm sure CP hates being that person who has to be rude to another lady especially when the person has done nothing wrong but HY, by doing whatever she does, she is really just burdening CP's feelings even more. I can almost feel CP hates telling her off rudely but well that is what you get when you manipulate someone's feelings. AND to always invade his privacy as and when she likes (more than once)...at the garden summore..a place that is special to him......do I need to say more? I'm glad he finally told her off....in that dont-test-my-patience-and-i-told-you-so-many-times tone at that. 29 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Earth2KatyD Posted October 4, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted October 4, 2016 Annyeong, chingus! I may be out of commission from our MDBC forum in the next few days since we may lose power (NO Episodes 13&14 BTS/NGs and Episode 15 preview for me. ).. Just got hold of some breaking news that a huge hurricane is going to hit our way (I'm from the Southern parts of the US). Would certainly appreciate your prayers, much kindly.. Kamsahamnida! Currently, this is the hurricane's path -- Spoiler 31 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yuuinokokoro Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 2 minutes ago, stroppyse said: Hmm. Perhaps HY is the Joseon equivalent of a saesang fan? And, all she want is "oppa"? Except, she's a Joseon noblewoman with the family power to be a viable royal bride, so why not her rather than another woman? Especially since, without even knowing who it is the CP loves, she has guessed that it's not someone suitable, therefor by the rules of Joseon royalty, while the beloved one may become a concubine, she won't be Queen. Not entirely sure, but I think the Royal Consorts also were noblewomen, but the King would take concubines as he pleased. Not that I expect Young to do that, of course, since he is not a typical Joseon king, but just saying that from HY's reality, she doesn't actually have competition for the position of Queen. She just also want's the CP's love and affection, and those are out of her reach. She might be able to get his respect at some point, however. Also, given the history of Lee Young, I expect that he'll leave the palace with Ra On at some point. I don't see any other way for them to have a happy ending. And, a sad ending is unbearable to think about. This would make the Queens expression more sense, during the selection.. *Not another fan-girl* kekeke 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChristinaT Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 (edited) Is it just me.. or why do I feel like the Grandpa is the one who notified Minister Kim? Towards the end we see a man (whom we can't see clearly, but maybe a small beard?) and it reminded me of Grandpa I genuinely thought he would be supportive towards the CP and Ra On, but I hope it's just my suspicion and not really him. Is it Ra On's father? WHO KNOWS!? Edited October 4, 2016 by ChristinaT 20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mioksf Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 49 minutes ago, WildDivine69 said: I just want to give my personal view on the character of HY. Yes, she appears to be a pitiful and foolish woman because of her unconditional love for LY, but I've never felt any emotional connection to her, nor any sympathy. I don't hate HY at all. I agree, she is not a bad or evil person. To me, she was simply introduced too late in the game and has been written as a somewhat of a nuisance(following LY into the alley, showing up places unannounced). IF she had been written closer to her RL person/character in the novel(politically strong), I probably would have understood her better. Her character wasn't fleshed out well by the writer and perhaps due to that, the actress did not give the character much depth. That is why I cannot relate to her, even though I love that her character isn't the typical scheming, mean second lead female (like she was in Cheer Up! which she totally rocked in). 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_moonlightsonata Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 2 hours ago, underthemoon0616 said: I wonder who tell Yeong where is RaOn? Maybe it's Yoon Sung because for the 1st time RaOn cried badly. If his the one, his so pitiful. This is the first scene for episode 15 I'm sure. The one who gave CP about RO's location. Either YS or Teacher Dasan. I wanted Yeong to formally introduce himself to RO's mother not as the Crown Prince but as RO's BF.lel. ................................................................................ 2 hours ago, Jillia said: You know I don't pity Ha Yeon anymore... She agreed to this arrangement knowing a loveless marriage will await her. So I have to say it annoys me when she is basically scolding Lee Yeong for not greeting her when he passed by. I don't know... I liked her so much in the beginning when it actually made sense for her to speak up, especially when she didn't know who Lee Yeong was. But now I think it's annoying. And I DON'T want to find her annoying. And no this has nothing to do with me shipping Ra On and Lee Yeong because they're the safest OTP ever. But it's really a problem I have with her character. And she didn't give me that feeling in the last episode... I mean I get what she is doing but still... at this point of the drama - 4 episodes until it ends... I feel so indifferent when it comes to her. Heck I want this wedding to be over so we can move on from repeatedly Lee Yeong meeting her, telling her over and over again he doesn't care a great deal about her. He doesn't hate her but at this point he has other things on his mind - even besides Ra On... And that's sad! I don't want to feel indifferent about Ha Yeon. I have a bad feeling she's going to die. Sorry chingus. As long as the Evil Queen is alive there's no princess that can take the throne. @Earth2KatyD sending prayers . Stay safe and warm. 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mioksf Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 6 minutes ago, stroppyse said: Hmm. Perhaps HY is the Joseon equivalent of a saesang fan? And, all she want is "oppa"? Your observation made me think of how, in another show currently airing at the same time slot, a male character relentlessly pursues the female lead despite her repeated rejections but that drama spins it in a way to make it seem acceptable and maybe even romantic (though I certainly don't think so). Both HY and this male lead are willing to sacrifice for their loved ones but in this case, one is considered a nuisance and the other a hero. Are there different standards for males and females or is it up to the actors/actresses to make their characters likable? 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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