Park Bo Gum ❤ Girl's Day Hyeri aka REPLY 1988 TAEK x DEOKSUN

[bluesteyes]

BTS pic

So cute. Got it from twitter.

[PBJayism]

YAY! Hey guys  nice to have taek's room back haha 

 

 

Ok so aside from the very obvious title (I see who you really shipped from the start tvN hahaha) this preview especially had some great DS-TK moments (like frypan hit in your face type of moments) and it's a real shame (and mystery?!) as to why they didn't make the final cut. DS's telltale reaction to TK's greeting was especially sweet and very true to her growing feelings and their blossoming dynamic, but I also love the different angle that was used for DS-TK's cursing scene. To have the shot angled from where the three other guys were sitting really emphasised how TK-DS were always in their own little bubble, looking and laughing only at one another. 

It makes me wonder how many other TK-DS moments and scenes were cut and now I'm just hoping we have a director's cut or at least a whole bunch of deleted scenes. 

[salz]

oh Taeksunheaven is back lol

some fanvid to celebrate lol

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

i love this one it so touching since it about Ot5 friendship which deserve as much love  

 

have fun with the thread guys and stay awesome with your analysis  

baduk etiquette 

[Phuong Tam Nguyen]

So a few days ago we had a discussion over these scenes, and the MILK hahhahaha. For the analysis posts, I will leave them to the original posters so do look out for them soon ^^

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As I rewatch ep 18, there are some details I'm not quite sure of. So the title of that ep is "Goodbye my first love". I put the scenes below.

Here was when the gang got home together. At this moment, the front door of TK's house was left opened before he came in. After DS was rescued by the guys, she turned to the direction of her house. And her house was shown next.

 

Here DS was in deep thoughts about something. I guess it was about LSH's concert but I'm not sure. The chewing gum packet was just torn out but it was still fully filled. I think it's the same brand of chewing gum shown in ep 4. DS's father bought 2 of these (1 green 1 yellow) before from an old woman. Her fingers' movements were shown. The last time I saw these fingers' movements of hers was in ep 17, when she was reluctant to be piggybacked by TK.

Why was DS like this?

 

Then, after JH's sad moments in his room was shown, we saw TK walking to his house. Here, an interesting conversation happened 

 

and then TK turned to the door before moving to his room (with the milk cup)

so, where do you ladies think the milk came from?

If I'm not wrong, the milk (like this cup of milk) was mentioned in ep 17 when TK's dad wanted to make a cup of milk for him and asked him not to take sleeping pills, on the shooting star day.

 

[__jesse]

Yay, this thread is open! The like button was sorely missed! But we can't afford to take this for granted. Please remember Baduk etiquette. Just bow our heads and stay silent. DO NOT FEED TROLLS.
 

Repost from PM:
The AM1988 Game of Go - Part 2

Just before the mods closed our threads, @allegramente shared this idea: what if it was DS who played baduk against Taek? And that made sense, because Taek had to win her heart by capturing her.

But here's my crazy theory: what if Taek was playing Baduk against everyone?
 

Player 1: Jung Hwan

We have already established that JH played black.

Player 2: Sun Woo

But do you know that SW was black too? Of course, this is on the premise that SW was the one DS gave the chocolate bar to. And the evidence was in the diary.

This is the English translation of what BR recited: At the hour when everything is draped in darkness, and therefore, becomes a lonelier time. At this time, when the world is asleep, my feelings for you cannot seem to become still with the night. They say that feelings are for expressing. That's why I have to become brave and let these words escape my lips...

DS wrote in a literary manner, so something was lost in translation there. I looked at the Chinese subs, and here is a literal translation of that: Like one clothed in black, night makes me lonely. In this moment when the world is asleep, my yearning for you keeps me awake. Love needs to be expressed, that's why I'm gathering my courage to...

Even if you're not convinced SW was black for now, stick with me.

Player 3: Duk Seon

DS, on the other hand, is white. She was often seen wearing white tops, with black polka dots, which represented the black stones she had captured. When Taek made his first move during the first snow, he was wearing black. Also, remember how Taek kept looking up at the snow falling down? Maybe the snow represented tiny white baduk stones falling from the sky; it was DS beckoning him to make the first move.

 

World Baduk Championships

Taek only made his first move at the end of ep 6. But before he even called DS, the endgame was already announced. The writer had used the World Baduk Championships to lay out the game plan for us. If you remember, Taek was the only Korean left in the game. He had to beat all 5 players - 3 from China and 2 from Japan - in order to win.

DR: You’ll probably be on your way home tomorrow after you lose the first round. Right? I’m not just saying this to mess around. There are just some things in this world that aren’t possible. Don’t give people false hopes.
 

Now, let's analyse the matches. In Round 1, the opponent was China's Luo Xi He 9-dan. He played black and was assumed to have an IQ of 160.

He represented our top student, SW. SW chose to resign, even though he could win. According to baduk rules, before the end of a game, a player may resign by playing a stone he captured from the opponent. SW was the first to exit the husband game when he decided to confess to BR. At that time, SW was wearing a black coat, which he removed for BR, revealing a white t-shirt underneath. He was supposed to play a black stone, but he played a white stone instead.

 

In Round 3, Taek played against China's Wang Lei 9-dan. Wang played black; he represented JH. JH's game unofficially ended in ep 15 after he failed to clear up the pink shirt misunderstanding. And in that episode, this was what Taek and his opponent said:

 

Round 5 was played against China's Wang Shi 6-dan. He was a newbie who played white, representing DS our star rookie who finally became a baduk person. Interestingly, Taek was supposed to be weak against newbies.

But look at what his opponent said:

DS stood no chance against our Taekkie! #badukkiss
 

In Round 2, it wasn't shown who played which colour. And Round 4 wasn't aired at all. My guess is, these two rounds represented DS' parents - the final hurdle before marriage. We were never told how Taek won over DS' parents, but we could safely assume that he did after all. 

 

So all in all, Taek played 13 episodes, with a handicap of 6, against 5 people, and still won! No wonder he was nearly dead by ep 20. 

Mr Lee: Master Choi is done. He’ll be out soon. It took 13 hours today.
DS: 13 hours?
Mr Lee: He’s nearly dead right now. I feel sorry for him. He still won though. He beat him, in the end. He suffered, but it was all worth it.
DS: What?
Mr Lee: His girlfriend came to wait for him.

 

BONUS: Wasn't this how we felt during the husband hunt? Hahaha!

[Phuong Tam Nguyen]

3 hours ago, tiendoank said:

Oh, God. Finally. I never thought I would be this happy knowing this home is open again.

Anyone knows the bgm of this scene?

 

MOD EDIT: DO NOT QUOTE IMAGES, GIFS, VIDEOS!

 

btw.. I kinda melted a lil bit, or a lot, when I heard Taeki's whimper the second time Deok Sun pranked him. Such a sexy voice.

 

Hi there ^^ The song is here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_orhAUQXeE&feature=youtu.be

 

[tiendoank]

4 minutes ago, Phuong Tam Nguyen said:

 

Hi there ^^ The song is here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_orhAUQXeE&feature=youtu.be

 

Thanks a lot, mate!

[__jesse]

Repost from PM:
@Phuong Tam Nguyen Thanks for calling our attention to this scene, because otherwise I wouldn't have thought to analyse this. Here's my interpretation of it.
 

 

1. Bubblegum = Park Bo Gum = Taek

a. Bubblegum rhymes closely with Park Bo Gum.
b. The bubblegum stick was green.
c. On tvN’s YouTube channel, they used the actors’ real names, i.e. Hye-ri, Ryu Jun-yeol, Park Bo-gum. Hence, bubblegum = Park Bo Gum = Taek.
d. Taek was an underground smoker, just like BR. How many times have we seen BR brushing her teeth? Bubblegum can be used in the same way to conceal the smell of cigarettes.
 

2. Pager: A vital device in any Reply series

DS' pager was  yellow . At the beginning of ep 18, the gang also gave Taek a pager as his birthday present. We never saw him use it, so why introduce the pager? Chekhov’s gun.

3. Two concert tickets

Connect these three, and we have a winner. This scene actually answered a question that bugged me for the longest time: How did Taek find out about the concert?

 

Taek was all ready to go for the match when DS appeared inappropriately dressed for a concert. As he sized her up, he realised something was amiss. DR popped the obvious question, “Ah, you got dumped again?”

As usual, DS lied to protect her pride. But Taek knew better. He had seen her lie many times when it came to dating. There was only one way to find out the truth without hurting DS’ pride: listen to her voicemail.

So Taek went back to his room, took out his pager’s instruction manual and called the operator hotline. DS was a simple woman. I think it would be easy to figure out her passcode. After all...

I could think of three possible options for DS' passcode:
1. Her birthdate
2. Taek’s birthday
3. The default passcode "1234" 

Afterwards, he then went to the Baduk Centre to forfeit the match in person. Taek had a habit of washing his face after every match. Hence, the scene we saw was what happened after he forfeited the match. 

“I don’t need a beeper”

Taek’s birthday present was a Samsung with me S pager. He said he didn’t need one. It’s true. He just needed the instruction manual. It was DS who needed it.

SW: We wrote down our numbers, so beep us.
Taek: I don’t need a beeper.
DS: We need it, OK? Really…
Taek: I don’t know how to use it.
SW: There isn’t much to it. Just call the number that’s flashing.
Taek: All right.

Samsung knows how you feel

Later that evening, Kim Sajang and his Cheetah watched a Samsung commercial on TV. It was a strange ad with human heads sticking out of stereos - like a crossbreed between human and machine; a merging of human intellect and audio technology. Every commercial in AM1988 alluded to what was happening then, and this was a direct reference to Taek’s pager. Taek found out about DS’ feelings because the pager had kept a voice recording of DS' failed blind date.

TV: An audio (recording) system that knows how I feel… Samsung!
Kim Sajang: Oh, wow… that audio system knows how you feel. It’s better than a person.

 

So this is how I think Taek found out about the concert. Of course it's just a theory, because we would never be able to know for sure what happened then. But I would think that since it was never aired, the writer had left enough clues to resolve the mystery. What do y'all think?
 

Also consider the flow of these three scenes.

First, we see DS staring pensively at the bubblegum/pager/concert tickets. 
Then, we see Jung Hwan entering his house, and his mom asked, "Jung Hwan, is that you?"
Lastly, we see Taek bringing milk from the dining table into his room.

This reflected the exact sequence of what happened. Taek (bubblegum) used the pager to find his way to the concert. Then, he went to look for Jung Hwan at his base camp. Finally, he picked up DS (milk) from the lobby and brought her back to his hotel room. 

Wow, LWJ 9-dan, wow.
 

On a side note, Samsung devices were frequently seen or mentioned in this episode. They could be actually hinting at SW's surname. Samsung could also mean three Sungs: Sung Duk Seon, Sung Bora and Sung Sun Woo. It became obvious when the gang took a nap in Taek's room and SW asked JH to play some music. "SAM" was cleanly erased, leaving the word "SUNG".

 

@pixiemoondust Btw, I think I've uncovered the Chocolate Theory. And DS' first love is still SW.

[pixiemoondust]

14 minutes ago, __jesse said:

Btw, I think I've uncovered the Chocolate Theory. And DS' first love is still SW

 

Awww...I'm excited to read it!

Meanwhile, y'all can find me dropping happy bombs over at MT. 

 

[melleri]

Welcome back guys. Some fanart in celebration : 

And yes, let's drop happy bombs on the thread. Don't engage in arguments and don't quote those trying to start fights. Let's spread the TK/DS love in a reasonable way.  

 

[hafunohane]

OMG...

 MY BABY THREAD IS BACK....

ALL NEW AND OLD PASSENGERS ON BOARD THE TAEKTANIC TAEKTANIUM: WELCOME, WELCOME!!!

HERE'S A REOPENING GIF FOR Y'ALL 

LET'S PARTY ON ON THIS SHIP <3 .... or in Deoksun's words.. "LET'S... MUSIC.....!!!" *cringe*

[melleri]

Some BTS!

Spoiler

 

 

no spoiler on the big pictures on purpose 

[otomame]

It's good to be back~

Reposting the DC gallery links I found interesting  

I'm browsing through DC Gallery (again) and the SunTaek shippers over there finished compiling all the moments between Deoksun and Taek starting from episode 6. They made screencaps including comments and theories/analyses from k-netizens (from dc gallery I think)  Most of the comments are really funny, I wish I could translate them.

http://gall.dcinside.com/board/view/?id=reply1988&no=827473 (this link includes the scenes from episode 20, click on the other links at the top of the post for the screencaps of the respective episodes)

Something that I didn't notice until reading the post from DC gallery on episode 9 was that Taek's smoking already seemed to be pointed at in earlier episodes. Look at his butt 

Spoiler

DC gallery's reaction to Hyeri's interview when she said that Taek was inside Deoksun's heart since episode 1 http://gall.dcinside.com/board/view/?id=reply1988&no=827497&page=1 (the text around Taek says "That's right" )

A fanmade scene of Bora&Sunwoo going on a (forced ) double date with Deoksun&Taek http://gall.dcinside.com/board/view/?id=reply1988&no=827380 (if anyone could translate this that'd be awesome )

Another gif from the hotel kiss scene because there can never be enough http://gall.dcinside.com/board/view/?id=reply1988&no=827491

A gif compilation of Taek eating, drinking and smoking because why not?  http://gall.dcinside.com/board/view/?id=reply1988&no=827347, http://gall.dcinside.com/board/view/?id=reply1988&no=827352, http://gall.dcinside.com/board/view/?id=reply1988&no=827366, http://gall.dcinside.com/board/view/?id=reply1988&no=827369

Someone compiled lines said by Deoksun and Taek to each other and shaped a heart out of their phrases, it's really cute http://gall.dcinside.com/board/view/?id=reply1988&no=827102

This post has a HUGE versions of Bogum and Hyeri's new bts pictures http://gall.dcinside.com/board/view/?id=reply1988&no=827555

Someone made a comic what would have happened if Taek already made his official "husband contender" appearance in an earlier episode, bless this person  http://gall.dcinside.com/board/view/?id=reply1988&no=827228 (I remember some of you guys arguing the same, that Taek would have just told Deoksun she's pretty and then it would have been game over lol)

[kattkedi]

Sorry for my question.

are there somebody who can read Chinese language ? can you guys explain these article/screencaps talking about?

Thanks before

[mangachickava]

reposted from PM:

So just to clear up come confusion some of you may have about the drama production world. RJY never auditioned for TK's role.

I think with the research done by the writer to recreate 1988, we would expect the same amount of research for the actors that would carry the characters. So just like 1994 where Trash was based on Jung Woo ( and the writer waited two years for his return from army) and the director had his eyes on go ara many years prior when she did a show for a fellow PD

The same selective decision making went into 1988.

The fact GKP and RHY were picked as SW and BR was on purpose as shown by their first meeting. GKP and RHY also have a short indie university film together being a couple (shared on SW/BR thread) So it is safe to assume the director approached these two after doing research and was aware of their prior relationship.

LDH was approached for the one and only DR. (his fashion sense, off camera personality is clearly similar.)

DS character was based on HR.

PBG was called by the director. Yes, he read the lines of the other characters, but did you really think they would have him read SW because they would switch them?? after all they had planned with RHY as Bora?

As a director you get inspired by your actor, you want to see how much you can mold them into the character, and what things do they bring that will build the character even more. So, you have them do different personalities to see their limits and strengths.

PBG initially declined the director, so you bet that when the director was convincing him, he told him the amazing opportunity he had with TK's role. This is a business people, the director would be going in with a game plan for getting PBG to accept TK. You also should bet that the director had watched PBG with SIG in remember me and saw his range from a puppy to murder.

JH was just debuting. So for his audition he would need to read many roles so that the director know whether he can be funny, mature, cute, ect. 

"Whenever you audition, expect the unexpected, and be ready to work with unusual situations at a moment's notice."

***also something i forgot to mention, that there  are stages to auditions. So, when you get a "call back" (so second stage) that is when they give the specific role for you to act.  they dont not give you your specific character in the first stage.

PBG coming dressed as TK in his second meeting showed this process.

[melleri]

messy eater couple.  

[mangachickava]

Natural chemistry between cast members is vital for the director in the reply series. 

Just like how GKP and RHY were told to foster their chemi, I am very sure PBG and HR also knew they were husband and wife ( the BTS, Vapp, collected screen shots of how DS looks at TK vs JH all prove that her widdest smile was always for TK even in ep 2.)

Now HR said she didnt know until ep 15 who the husband was and her answer was very smart. She played on the confused DS being a typical teenage girl so that viewers would calm down on how DS liked three of the guys.

We have to remember when HR auditioned she wasnt sure herself that she could do the role and the knetz were hating on her. The director assured her that she could do it. By doing so he took her under his responsibility.

Right now HR is getting hate from jh shippers, so the director, being on to take care of his staff, probably advised her to say she found out in ep 15/6. Why?

Lets look at Go ara, in 1994 it wasnt Go Ara's acting that was being hated on it was her character NJ! People knew from the start that Go Ara had done her part and showed her heart eyes where only for trash. Her acting was not the thing being focused on but the story and writer for trolling/

Unlike Go Ara, Hr is dealing with comments regarding her acting, that she didnt look believable in being into TK romantically ( people want the "change" in their relationship like you get with JH or SW, not the way it grew into love).

If HR said she had known the husband from ep 1 then viewers would continue to bash her for not acting well enough, but by saying she didnt know from ep 15 they give her the benefit of doubt that it was the directors fault for not coaching her better. See, though HR in her interview blamed herself, she actually directed the focus on the director for not preparing her sooner. Which is exactly what the director would want her to do because she is young and under his care as he was the one that wanted her to play the role and told her to trust him.

 

[Meliere]

3 hours ago, heolaaa said:

Sorry for my question.

are there somebody who can read Chinese language ? can you guys explain these article/screencaps talking about?

 

 

Thanks before

 

The power of Reply 1988! Charismatic actor Park Bo Gum is rapidly rising to No. 1.

On 1/28/16, CJ CGV hosted their 'Seoul Film and Media Forum' and issued a semi-annual report on actor reception (note: the word they used, 好感，means the extent an actor is viewed "favorably" and "positively" by the public). According to poll results from the CGV research, 25.3% of 2015 audiences casted their support towards Park Bo Gum, catapulting him to number one, a result that's also reflective of Reply 1988's broad popularity. On SNS, Park Bo Gum's ranking has risen 35 spots from last year to claim the "number two" spot. 

EDIT: the smaller article posted by @heolaaa also stated that Ryu Jun Yeol received 11.6% of the votes in that same poll, which puts him in a distant second in the rankings. 

hehehehe 

[DISCLAIMER: LOL my chinese is really bad!! Took two years of it in university, so read the above translation with a grain of salt]

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On a semi related note, I often visit douban.com to brush up on my failing Chinese. That site is a super legit hangout for Chinese fans of film/tv/art/music, and I've been constantly amazed by the level of intelligence shown in the ratings and comments left by douban users. Anyway, R88 current has a 9.3 rating on Douban (with over 13,000 votes casted), which is higher than R94 and R97. And SUNTAEK is a total favorite with douban netizens, yay! The photos with the most "upvotes" are all DS-TK stuff. So guys, don't let the Soompi atmosphere get you down. It isn't representative of the mood at large. 

[pixiemoondust]

@otomame Thanks for compiling all the interesting links. I'm really curious to know about the first link, I wish we had a translation.. but I know It's a lot to request for someone to do it as the content is soo huge. 

[Guest]

1 hour ago, mangachickava said:

If HR said she had known the husband from ep 1 then viewers would continue to bash her for not acting well enough, but by saying she didnt know from ep 15 they give her the benefit of doubt that it was the directors fault for not coaching her better.

 

If this is how it really is then props to the director for telling HR to put the blame on the directing because, in my opinion, her acting was fantastic. I can honestly say that I didn't know HR was an idol when I came into this show; I thought she was an actress. I think she did an absolutely fantastic job of subtly conveying DS's feelings for TK. It's upsetting to think that viewers would rather blame the acting than accept the fact that it was their own bias that blinded them to the true love story. 

 

Also, with the amount of free time [and no R88 threads to haunt!] I've had over the past couple of days, I rewatched the majority of the series looking for the start of two things. 1. TK's showing of jealousy and 2. The earliest indication that DS thought of TK as a man before the China trip. Forgive me the lack of screenshots, I'm very new to Soompi and haven't figured out all the features yet. 

1. I know packmule3 went into 5 instances of jealousy from TK in a post before and that's what made me want to find the earliest instance of it. I found it in episode 2, after TK has his first Baduk match loss and is morose. When the kids come in and start the cursing, TK notices the difference in DS's reaction to JH and SW swearing. After that, we get a TK view of the scene and there's a split second of pout showing on TK's face when the camera pans to him. Blink and you miss it, as I did the first few times I watched the episode. 

 

2. I'm not sure if anyone has already linked this together or not but I just wanted to get it out there in case they hadn't. During the episode where DS is doing the crab dance in front of the boys DR had said that if a girl does that dance in front of you, she doesn't see you as a man. In the next few scenes we see DS doing that exact dance in front of the 3 boys until TK walks into the room. She immediately stops doing that dance and starts her flirtatious lasso dance. This seems like a clear indication to me that she thought of TK as a man already, even if it wasn't consciously. 

Now someone might want to say that in an earlier episode she's doing her crazy version of the Sobangcha dance when TK walks into the room and she doesn't stop. However, her back was to the door when he walked in during that episode. She didn't see him. Of course she wouldn't stop doing a crazy dance like that if she doesn't realize the object of her true affections had walked in. 

 

If the colored boxes [yellow, pink, green] on the shelf in TK's room were truly the director's way of showing who was end game, they've been there since Episode 3, possibly sooner but I didn't catch a glimpse of those shelves in earlier episodes. 

Unrelated note: Some of the posts in the main thread are really frustrating to read. Avoiding all mentioning of the TK/DS and JH/DS dynamics there? Really?! That's avoiding quite a bit of story just to appease those who are upset about the ending!