[Drama 2016] Moon Lovers ❤ Scarlet Heart Ryeo, 달의 연인-보보경심 려 \^0^/ Soompi Kdrama 2016 Winner

[WeunXK]

c as labeled

 

[antiherofans]

 

1 hour ago, pauexclusive said:

Please include me in the roll call. Any roll call with LGJ in it hahaha. I liked the ending BUT i am still not giving up on the idea of mini series or season 2! 

 

 

Me too. Please call me . Anything with LJG, I'm in

[kiinn]

@qwenli  LOLLL i guess, yeah, infected soooo bad, don't have intention to get cured for the time being. Really? Any other records? 

[ana45]

 

I can not accept that Ha Jin finds Ji Mong in the future but not WS !!! It goes round in my head! Just can not !!  

Edited November 3, 2016 by ana45
Inglish bad

[sooji28]

Is it posted already? Another beautiful FMV from @AuroraRain Love it. 

 

[pauexclusive]

9 minutes ago, ana45 said:

 

I can not accept that Ha Jin finds Ji Mong in the future but not WS !!! It goes round in my head! Just can not !!  

Eclipse gone wrong. JM and WS's soul travelled and WS landed on JMs' body  season 2 FTW!

[pauexclusive]

54 minutes ago, pauexclusive said:

CAN SOMEONE PLEASE CONFIRM IF THIS IS A HOAX?

http://mundo-kpop.info/se-confirma-la-emision-de-2-episodios-especiales-para-el-drama-scarlet-heart-ryeo/

As per that link it is confirmed that the specials will be aired this sunday Nov 6..

I accidentally posted this in K2 i don't know how the hell i got in there and someone quoted me "Wrong thread dear" LMAO  richard simmons that was embarrassing! 

[minekas]

49 minutes ago, shairli said:

 

More please   Drooling..... TQ @minekas

Anybody else wants to contribute or share LJG's hands please do so.  I'm creating a folder just for his hands.

You're most welcome dear chingu, I'll PM you some pix and help you to create that folder. 

cr to owner

[rozajay9]

1 hour ago, MAROSA_JIN said:

DC

Do you know the original artist? I remember someone posted their instagram before...

[ohgee]

8 minutes ago, rozajay9 said:

Do you know the original artist? I remember someone posted their instagram before...

the inta account is asong1101

[shairli]

9 minutes ago, minekas said:

You're most welcome dear chingu, I'll PM you some pix and help you to create that folder. 

cr to owner

kamsa hamnida my eclipse chingu... I'll be waiting

 

[40somethingahjumma]

On 11/2/2016 at 0:35 PM, zi4r said:

Anyway, we're dealing with either the dumbest/most incompetent writer of all times, or the most brilliant & cruel one. I haven't made up my mind yet.

Well, I made up my mind quite a while ago that the writer is brilliant... and quite cruel...  because of the way she pushes the characters to their logical extreme. My opinion is probably not the one generally shared by most ML fandom but I standby it.

In my opinion that "cruelty" is demonstrated in the way she deals with the OTP. It's consistently brutal and no-holds barred in the way she strips them bare. Their strengths are their weaknesses and she's quite audacious in how relentless she is about it... Right to the bitter end. I did wonder lately if the writer was some kind of existential nihilist  but after the ending I'm inclined to think she's merely an existentialist.

One of my favourite lines from Ep.20 was Baek-A saying to Jeong that "Hae Su spent her life caught between all of us. She couldn't do this or that." That one statement summed up for me the tragedy that was Su's relationship with the princes. The sad irony is that her friendships and romances with the princes became the poison that slowly ate her up inside. The very quality that made most of them love her became her undoing. Her kindness, pity for those in need and sense of fair play... tore her apart. Poor thing, she really did try to avoid getting embroiled with the royals again but Ji Mong and So were having none of it. I was heartened to hear her say in the letter that the raincoat moment was a turning point in how she saw So, which is something I suspected for a long time. I also think that she felt guilty that she couldn't agree with everything So did but in the end she missed him so much that even with such a wonderful man at her beck and call, all she thought about was the man she truly gave her heart to.

I don't think she left because of the baby or at least that's not the only reason. I think she left primarily because she did want to protect that love and her heart for him. She didn't really want to end up hating him. Curiously though, the baby, did become the personification of that desire.

 

I was having a really interesting chat with a colleague on Tuesday after wading through pages and pages of angry posts out for Su's blood or condemning So.  We talked about when "enough" is really "enough". How long should someone stay in a failing marriage before they say it's time to leave? 

I don't think there are any easy answers. But my colleague did say something interesting... you've got to earn your way out of a marriage just as much as you earn your way into one.

I think it was @30orsomething who kindly said that I was especially understanding of the predicament that our OTP was in. I said a week or so ago that I couldn't take sides and even now I can't really take sides. When a relationship breaks down, it is seldom the fault of just one party. I've seen a number of marriages fall apart in the last few years... a couple of them very close to home sadly and I've seen people go their separate ways for even less than what we witnessed in ML so if I appear to be especially understanding... it's probably I've witnessed this kind of scenario more often than I'm comfortable with. It may seem like a cliche now but the lack of honest communication is really the number one killer of relationships. And if you think what happened between Su and So was utter foolishness, you should see what happens in real life... it's absurd how often ego and pettiness blinds people from taking responsibility for their own actions. It's very easy to stand outside and watch what's going on but when you're in the middle of it, hurt and angry... all the reason in the world won't keep you from lashing out. People have abandoned long-term relationships for far less than what took place between Su and So. Much less. There's so much unsaid expectations when people couple and often that's all it takes for relationships to fall apart if there's no desire to find some middle ground.

I've been thinking a bit about what Yeon Hwa said to So... about how she now understood why Su left him. She said that in the context of So not wanting to spend time with his own son even on his birthday. While I was cheering a little that YH's getting the cold shoulder from So and that she would never have his heart, I'm convinced now that there's a kernel of truth in what she says. So is amazing in his love... and I've even described it as epic along with everyone else... but if we were to look at it objectively, it is a little too epic for any normal kind of human being and I imagine very overwhelming... to the point that it can end up being quite stifling. A lot of it obviously comes from being abandoned by his family and his mother in particular. In fact, I blame her for 50% of the dysfunction in the Royal Family especially among her own children. When So's hot, he is very hot and when he's cold... the whole place feels like Antarctica. There's something about him that alienates people because he's got such an extreme personality. When it comes to giving himself... it's all or nothing. He won't even pretend to compromise. There's a place for being unyielding but in relationships there needs to be a little give and take otherwise it can come across as being controlling.

I wonder too if this isn't why people continually say that Su doesn't love So enough because by comparison and relatively speaking, nobody can really love that greatly. He sets the bar so high that no other human being can possibly even reach those heights.

Where I think Yeon Hwa is right is that So, to all intents and purposes, chooses to be alone. On the one hand he craves love and affection but his lack of trust in people and his lack of desire to trust doesn't help him to make or keep friends. He doesn't forgive easily which is why he tends to alienate people. And his pride... his abominable pride...

The reason why Ep. 20 is such a beautiful episode for me is because the show affirms their love even in such a bleak and tragic circumstance. Their child personifies this love that bore fruit under such trying circumstances. While their love wasn't meant to be a happily ever after, they still had it. That's why I say the show (or the writer) demonstrates such an existential bent.

 

 

[penforella]

IMO even the cast was baffled and surprised about the ending. If not why would they "said/leaked" in their interview about the cut ending.

[rozajay9]

5 minutes ago, ziggy123 said:

the inta account is asong1101

Thank you!

[junejungki]

45 minutes ago, antiherofans said:

 

 

Me too. Please call me . Anything with LJG, I'm in

Me three!! Count me in anything related to LJG 

[luvkstyle]

I want to say how much I appreciated Wang Jung at the end.  It was my understanding that Gwangjong did not allow him to marry Hae Soo but he still took her in and made her life as comfortable as possible.  It must have been heartbreaking for him to see her every day knowing he could never have her as his wife, that she could never love him as she did Gwangjong.  Imagine how he must have felt when he found out she was pregnant with Gwangjong's child - he would be wishing it was his own.  But he cared for her during her pregnancy and following ill health and made sure her letters got to the King.  He knew what was in those letters as she had said she wanted to see him and voiced her concern that he wasn't going to come.  Then to have Hae Soo's ashes taken from him at the end would have been devastating for him.  His love for Hae Soo was seemingly selfless and must have cause him so much pain and grief.  Who better to raise her child - he would have given her so much love.  I'm thankful that Gwanjong allowed Jung to continue to raise her - I'm sure it would have gone some way to bring healing to Jung's heart

[WeunXK]

 

 

 

 

Spoiler

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[qwenli]

1 hour ago, penelop3 said:

Does anyone has the transcript of LJK's Mini Fans meeting, that is related to MLSHR? 
I'm curious whether he's talking about more stuff, other than his fave scenes with Soo. 

 

The entire video is subbed, u can either watch it on the free app vlive (original source) or find it on YouTube under jgfamily.

[Rose3]

1 hour ago, 40somethingahjumma said:

Well, I made up my mind quite a while ago that the writer is brilliant... and quite cruel...  because of the way she pushes the characters to their logical extreme. My opinion is probably not the one generally shared by most ML fandom but I standby it.

In my opinion that "cruelty" is demonstrated in the way she deals with the OTP. It's consistently brutal and no-holds barred in the way she strips them bare. Their strengths are their weaknesses and she's quite audacious in how relentless she is about it... Right to the bitter end. I did wonder lately if the writer was some kind of existential nihilist  but after the ending I'm inclined to think she's merely an existentialist.

One of my favourite lines from Ep.20 was Baek-A saying to Jeong that "Hae Su spent her life caught between all of us. She couldn't do this or that." That one statement summed up for me the tragedy that was Su's relationship with the princes. The sad irony is that her friendships and romances with the princes became the poison that slowly ate her up inside. The very quality that made most of them love her became her undoing. Her kindness, pity for those in need and sense of fair play... tore her apart. Poor thing, she really did try to avoid getting embroiled with the royals again but Ji Mong and So were having none of it. I was heartened to hear her say in the letter that the raincoat moment was a turning point in how she saw So, which is something I suspected for a long time. I also think that she felt guilty that she couldn't agree with everything So did but in the end she missed him so much that even with such a wonderful man at her beck and call, all she thought about was the man she truly gave her heart to.

I don't think she left because of the baby or at least that's not the only reason. I think she left primarily because she did want to protect that love and her heart for him. She didn't really want to end up hating him. Curiously though, the baby, did become the personification of that desire.

I was having a really interesting chat with a colleague on Tuesday after wading through pages and pages of angry posts out for Su's blood or condemning So.  We talked about when "enough" is really "enough". How long should someone stay in a failing marriage before they say it's time to leave? 

I don't think there are any easy answers. But my colleague did say something interesting... you've got to earn your way out of a marriage just as much as you earn your way into one.

I think it was @30orsomething who kindly said that I was especially understanding of the predicament that our OTP was in. I said a week or so ago that I couldn't take sides and even now I can't really take sides. When a relationship breaks down, it is seldom the fault of just one party. I've seen a number of marriages fall apart in the last few years... a couple of them very close to home sadly and I've seen people go their separate ways for even less than what we witnessed in ML so if I appear to be especially understanding... it's probably I've witnessed this kind of scenario more often than I'm comfortable with. It may seem like a cliche now but the lack of honest communication is really the number one killer of relationships. And if you think what happened between Su and So was utter foolishness, you should see what happens in real life... it's absurd how often ego and pettiness blinds people from taking responsibility for their own actions. It's very easy to stand outside and watch what's going on but when you're in the middle of it, hurt and angry... all the reason in the world won't keep you from lashing out. People have abandoned long-term relationships for far less than what took place between Su and So. Much less. There's so much unsaid expectations when people couple and often that's all it takes for relationships to fall apart if there's no desire to find some middle ground.

I've been thinking a bit about what Yeon Hwa said to So... about how she now understood why Su left him. She said that in the context of So not wanting to spend time with his own son even on his birthday. While I was cheering a little that YH's getting the cold shoulder from So and that she would never have his heart, I'm convinced now that there's a kernel of truth in what she says. So is amazing in his love... and I've even described it as epic along with everyone else... but if we were to look at it objectively, it is a little too epic for any normal kind of human being and I imagine very overwhelming... to the point that it can end up being quite stifling. A lot of it obviously comes from being abandoned by his family and his mother in particular. In fact, I blame her for 50% of the dysfunction in the Royal Family especially among her own children. When So's hot, he is very hot and when he's cold... the whole place feels like Antarctica. There's something about him that alienates people because he's got such an extreme personality. When it comes to giving himself... it's all or nothing. He won't even pretend to compromise. There's a place for being unyielding but in relationships there needs to be a little give and take otherwise it can come across as being controlling.

I wonder too if this isn't why people continually say that Su doesn't love So enough because by comparison and relatively speaking, nobody can really love that greatly. He sets the bar so high that no other human being can possibly even reach those heights.

Where I think Yeon Hwa is right is that So, to all intents and purposes, chooses to be alone. On the one hand he craves love and affection but his lack of trust in people and his lack of desire to trust doesn't help him to make or keep friends. He doesn't forgive easily which is why he tends to alienate people. And his pride... his abominable pride...

The reason why Ep. 20 is such a beautiful episode for me is because the show affirms their love even in such a bleak and tragic circumstance. Their child personifies this love that bore fruit under such trying circumstances. While their love wasn't meant to be a happily ever after, they still had it. That's why I say the show (or the writer) demonstrates such an existential bent.

Exactly! We might be in the minority but I can't choose sides. I understand both. I never doubted their love for each other. I understand both predicaments as well as their personalities and principles. After watching the drama for the third time and the SBS version with English subtitles uploaded at Kissasian, I finally come to understand the writer and my opinion is that the drama is wrapped up nicely, even the ending. It is tragic, it is cruel and it is ironic yet it is also beautiful and deep. I guess that is why I can move on easily because I accept that things are just meant to be the way they are.  I guess it may have to do with the passing of her mother, the few years left with her that she had some realizations on life. That affects her in writing the script I guess. 

Though, you put it across more eloquently and brilliantly than I do. I always agree with your posts and enjoy reading them. I read in a post that you teach students to write essays, you can be my teacher! *bows head*  Haha! 

Edited November 3, 2016 by Rose34

[mina4ever]

i felt being trolled by the director when it's jimong and not WS that HS met when she's back in the present.