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3 hours ago, Vimsmoke Sanji said:

 

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Question.

How come KJK (low-class zombie) knew who Parent Zombie is?

rank as the low-class zombie his mission supposed to ripped the name tag not steal an object and give it to Parent Zombie.

Does the High-Class Zombie mission also to steal an object? i thought only JSM (The Assistant) plus when the Human Team lost, JSJ clearly asking why is it her(SJH) to YJS? I thought only SJH and JSM knew about this stealing an item mission. Does JSM tell KJK and asked for his help? if it true, this is not the 1st time JSM asking for KJK helped, just a biggest question here is the PD allowing KJK to help JSM? of course they both are zombie right  lol 

 

Hi,

 

Spoiler

Sorry, KJK was first a High-Class Zombie (Mother Zombie put his stuff in the box) before being 'trialed' and exposed. Thus he had to change into a low-class zombie.

 

After that, on his way to put on make-up for low-class zombie, he met Mother Zombie to pass items for Mother Zombie to put into boxes and infect others.

 

3 hours ago, bill said:

Somin seems to enjoy LKS's company these days. KJK noticed that too i guess. Someone is jealous?! 

 

Sorry, have to disagree because it is a bit too far-fetched to think veterans such as them will be jealous or exhibit 'stuff' which we can read easily....

 

Unfortunately, we can only see them on the surface so there a lot of things we do not know going behind the backs. Though that's what makes it so fun to act as detectives & try to piece the puzzle together.

 

Thanks. 

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On 7/1/2020 at 2:20 AM, kookminclan RunningMan said:

still a long way to go, but happy to see their emotional bond deepening. i also look at jsm liking kjk's video as something interesting. we know jsm is a spontaneous person and naughty at times. she went into peek at kjk in the sauna when he was naked, but that was 2 years back. she is much more cautious on RM and on instagram. she hasn't ever posted a pic with him, except for his picture on the  401 tonkatsu she posted along with that of haha. she also hasn't liked his pics and videos in a while though we know she does see his stories. i don't think she would have 'liked' what was a pretty hot shirtless video if she was in a cautious phase. she has also started recording her daily life through her insta stories and sometimes they seem too coincidentally connected.

Hi,

 

Yes, I am also happy to see their bond deepening...Glad to see that they really changed from strangers to close friends in real life beyond the screen....If there is romance, it is a bonus & good for both since they are compatible....if no romance, they are still there for each other as trusted friends.

 

9 hours ago, Rida Live said:

I feel like this sometimes too. It's hard to view that in a suspicious romantic light because it happened in 2018 and kookmin weren't really close then. Now all the suspicious activities from 2019 onwards? I'm seriously side eyeing them. Though we had a heart warming moment from them in the tofu episode in 2018, kookmin weren't really rubbing elbows till the later part of that year. 

 

Yes, it is hard especially with the recent 'expose' that Somin is dating in 2018 or met a male friend in 2019. Or KJK hanging out with a lady in LA in recent couple of years.

 

I would recommend the best way to save any troubling over this is to not try to assign too much meanings into this.   Just enjoy their sweet moments & chemistry recently regardless of whether you are convinced it is romantic/non-romantic.

 

4 hours ago, jialinggoleong said:

One of the Korean fan mentioned something  about one time when Jong Kook and Somin were partnered together during fortune telling forecast. The fortune teller put them together, and he was grumpy. The Korean netizens said it was the time one of the famous idol passed away due to suicide. Jong kook was feeling very pensive throughout. I don't think he's avoiding Somin just because he didn't like her. It is their job to work together. Jong Kook in a that particular pattern was getting detached himself from RM after the controversy. He had a health problem with gout and all. The first two years was the hardest on him with controversy and health problem. Somin was entirely new and very unpredictable. He was surprised to see someone betraying him or going against his wits. I think he was more of surprised and sensitive.

 

Yes, the episode he had to piggy-back her & went into the cold water for her. That episode was filmed the day the idol passed away.

 

From the episode, you can tell that in the earlier part, he was actually okay and still sporting some smiles. However, it seems he received news of the idol passing away midway through filming so that's why he seems rather upset. 

 

As per the zoo episode after RM FM, he thought JSM was 'weird' at first when she joined. So he wasn't close to her that period - he will not deliberately avoid her or what, but just not 'buddies' at that stage.

 

You are also right about his health problem - as seen in MUD, around that couple of years he should be down with hernia already but had to delay the surgery. Which explains why some fans wonder why he sometimes had a strange 'habit' of placing his hand around his hip bone area around that time period. Turns out he was pushing the intestines back and holding them in place.

 

8 hours ago, kyoko22 said:

If he is the one who will choose (which unlikely) I doubt he will choose her. If he is sensitive to her, he will know Somin hate punishment the most. Lately, she said it several time, she didn't want to get punish. Like in episode 497, she said she had to sell the name tags to opponent team because Sukjin as  the team leader didn't trust her. So, she didn't have any other way but to betray so she doesn't get punish.

 

IMHO, if by choice, likely to be YSC or LKS or JSJ. Recently it seems the direction for RM have been JSJ-KJK combo. I think kfans & ifans seems to quite like this combo, though cfans does not really like this combo. 

 

If not by choice, my personal preference for the punishment is YJS-KJK.

Sorry, this one is my #1 bias....even more than KJK (as a KJK fan) 

 

Thanks.

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9 hours ago, Shia Has said:

As a Somin fan, I noticed that Somin is really protective of her privacy. She shares just enough to let fans get a glimpse of her personal life but she doesn't give away her private life that easily. Even her poem about love in the book she published is mysterious and one needs to be imaginative to get what she's written. 

 

Hi,

 

I think she was hurt by her previous public relationship and got cheated....so probably she learnt that emotional matters should be kept private. This was also why fans does seem worried for her in the newest episode..she seems affected by the expose.

 

8 hours ago, kukumarq1 said:

I've noticed that his Kfans who usually share his parts on the shows he's been on, have totally skipped the parts where they talk about the fan who spotted him in LA with a Korean-American girl. They probably know more than we realise.

 

The show should really be more careful about revealing parts of their personal lives.

 

My only fear is that the single members will now not have much privacy and their dating life, especially Jong Kook's is about to get magnified even more.

 

I hope tabloids like Dispatch won't chase after him, just to get their scoop. 

 

Hi, yes, quite a lot of fans feedback that they are worried and does not agree with exposing personal matters for ratings. Although the PD has mentioned that they have phased out all those that cannot be said, some still find the reveals somewhat 'on-the-border-line'...

 

But you are right that fans are glad that he has been dating.....even with Haha sidetracking the topic + YJS showing an old picture to look like it was very much back, fans will still estimate it as a recent couple of years for this incident since KJK mentioned he only visited last year to Haha's joke + he only started drinking coffee in recent couple of years.

 

Also just to clarify based on translations, I think the reveal was seeing him with a lady (likely to be Asian) who dresses similar to Korean-American dress style (i.e. not the general dress code in Korea usually). 

 

4 hours ago, HydenG said:

I don't post much because i know that am not as a huge believer as some people here, and i don't want to kill the fun. 

 

But seriously, i find it weird how close they are. You can be bestfriends, yeah sure, but the amount of time KJK goes for the unnecessary touches/skinship is very "misleading". 

 

I really hope they know what they are doing 

 

Hi, it is okay - i also don't think there should be a rule that shippers must believe in them as a romantic couple. I am fine with fans shipping them as siblings or just love their chemistry on-screen.

 

Not to pour cold water, but I will recommend to give less weightage to "skinships" by KJK. I once read a pretty good analysis by KJK fans that although KJK is famed for 'manner hands', he actually becomes very less guarded and more 'touchy' once he becomes close with a person.  So at least, we can be glad that JSM is definitely close with KJK & in his 'circle'. Whether it is romantic or because JSM is her 'little brother' - this we really do not know. Though as per the past episode, this can be very misleading....

 

7 hours ago, kookminclan RunningMan said:

in some ways, i am glad. i hate those kids who think he is so finicky that no woman wants to be with him when it is just that he has been  great at hiding his relationships. hope to see that kind of talk shut down for a while. i was getting so frustrated by people who base their assumptions of kjk's personality based on what they see on mud. or people who think he is so shy that haha or some wingman has to find him a woman. 

 

Hi, I agree. On-screen personas are always exaggerated but antis will always use it as ammo to fire at the celeb. I read many that claims he is not meant for marriage because of his lifestyle habits even though we know it was for show. I don't think at least 2 ladies are willing to 'tough' it out with him for 7 years and 6 years if being together with him is so bad. 

 

Thanks.

 

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Hi,

 

Just some news regarding RM.

 

https://n.news.naver.com/entertain/article/382/0000828938

 

RM will be doing a special live broadcast for 12 July episode to commemorate 10th anniversary.

 

Good luck to them...hope it will be great!

 

Thanks.

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7 hours ago, Rida Live said:

Had to block that account as it kept popping up on my explore page. Their hate and bias is truly disgusting especially since they veil it under positive criticism. They tell their followers not to throw hate on Somin and that she's part of the RM fam and then in that same post, proceed to twist her actions and rip her to shreds. Why they can't just focus on their ship or actions concerning their ship confuses me. They give their own analyzations when Kookmin interacts, like lol such dedication. I used to read their comments and even some of their level headed fellow shippers didn't understand why they do that. I remember when kjk wished somin a happy birthday on his page, omg they started giving their long richard simmons theories and explanations to defend his action like triggered much???? They only give this energy to Somin and it doesn't take a fool to figure out it's because of her closeness with jong kook. I remember when she told her followers to understand jongkook and not hate him because he is just helping his under famous colleague whose career isn't too great. Like God forbid he's actually friends with her and respects and admires her. There was a time they had their own made up theory for every kookmin interaction and it was always ended up with a conclusion that degraded Somin. It's embarrassing to see shippers like this honestly.

Hi,

 

Yes, just to add on. Unfortunately, the anti fans from SJH community had been exposed to be posing as other RM members' fans to post anti-JSM stuff online while taking up a moral high ground approach. For example, I came across quite a few haters posts that claims to be YJS/LKS fans & dissed JSM, but eventually they were exposed by netizens that they are SJH supporters. It is unfortunate that they have to resort to this.

 

4 hours ago, HappyVirusRM said:

This is the most annoying part for me, I hate the snake dissing, if you’re gonna talk s#it at least say it with your chest, hate that coward bullcrap. It’s interesting that they deleted the comments on the screenshot, it must’ve hit a nerve. I don’t know why they like imagining LKS and Somin hating on each other, when they’re the King Kong siblings . I also don’t understand why they can’t see two women together on the same show, when it’s clear they care for each other. I hope Bo Pil plans on giving us more mongdol, even though I know Somin’s antis will say it’s all fake. 

 

Personally, I also dislike such behaviour, at least admit you dislike KJK/JSM. Among KJK CP community, the reason why SJH-KJK has seen a huge drop in KJK supporters was precisely many SJH supporters claiming to like both, but they end up dissing/hating on KJK for being close to other ladies.

 

If you read cfandom happenings, there are even crazy fans who commented that they should sue KJK for sexual harassment for being touchy with SJH if he does not end up marrying her....or that he wasted her youth because she was waiting for him etc.....

 

That is why cfandom for SJH-KJK ship now is actually mostly SJH supporters + a portion of those who support both + a rather small group of KJK supporters. KJK supporters are really tired of the ship making jokes at the expense of KJK or dissing him for not being with her. You can tell by his CP community (those who just want to marry him off asap) - it used to be pure 100% we-support-all-KJK-CP but recent 2 years saw the emergence of we-support-all-KJK-CP-except-SJH. It is a very sad thing that such phenomenon has to occur.

 

3 hours ago, PhoenixEmeralda said:

Even jsj and haha. It’s obvious how much jsj adores somin just by how he asked where she was in that one episode. With haha he literally said he wanted his daughter to be like somin, a person has to really like you to want their daughter to be like you. It’s funny how they often try to say any of the members hate her when the members do nothing but support her even on shows not in running man

 

I find Seok Jin's interview with Hanna the most revealing - he just blurted out JSM when asked who he liked better as his sibling. The reason he gave was very real - JSM is a good girl who gives a bright smile no matter what time or what is happening. I respect such personnel since we know having to smile in the face of adversity is not easy. 

 

Thanks.

 

 

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1 minute ago, kukumarq1 said:

Honestly, these are the same people who used to send hate comments to Jong Kook for "bullying" Kwang Soo.

 

The second-hand embarrassment I've gotten when 'fans' go to a press con and ask him to stop bullying Kwang Soo. He's had to explain multiple times that he and Kwang Soo are close.

 

And then, the whole "Jong Kook is stealing Jihyo away from Gary" during the Monday Couple days, cause he and Jihyo were pretty close.

 

And then, now they are hating on him cause he's close to Somin.

 

They just found a new target. 

Hi,

 

Yes, unfortunately things have not changed since then. The anti fans from ifandom + cfandom is still cyberbullying JSM & KJK. They are even dragging YJS through the mud for being 'nice' to JSM.

 

For cfandom, the situation was worsen since 2019 & 2020 saw the rise of 2 CP ships for KJK that seems to overtake SJH-KJK ship, so the anti fans are really hitting very hard on the 3 poor souls + their supporters who defend them (JSM-KJK-SNE). 

 

I read  that JSM cfans are collating & exposing the slander/dissing/harrassment made by anti fans in a bid to pass to King Kong & SBS as an 'official complaint'. It will be a great loss if RM show is cancelled/affected by the cyberbullying/malicious comments from crazy anti fans. So lets hope things will be better for the casts.

 

BTW, as a KJK fan, great to see JSM's performance for the 2 episodes upon her return. While not perfect, she does have great and memorable moments so keep it up!!!

 

Lastly, to promote some more joy in this world - for those with time to spare, please stay tuned for the upcoming weekend's episode of My Ugly Duckling. The 6 ducklings are back together and it will be a riot to watch them.

 

Thanks.

 

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33 minutes ago, HappyVirusRM said:

Some K-fans on Twitter are saying KJK’s photo is from a running man shoot today??? They filmed last week though... but the K fans seem convinced based on KJK‘s shirt. Apparently the slogan, -Change is a team sport- is an Adidas slogan and since Adidas seems to low key sponsor RM (based on shoes and clothes) it seems like an RM shoot. 
 

anyway, hope KJK is taking it easy on his ankle if they are shooting today. 

Hi,

 

Yes, likely to be RM shooting if on Mondays. Technically, RM shootings are Mondays every week. 

 

For Adidas, I think officially no one knows if they sponsor KJK but apparently he always 'advertised' their products....so many of us believe so. 

 

There are even speculations that he seems to 'know' Adidas Korea higher up but no proof though. 

 

Thanks.

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10 minutes ago, kukumarq1 said:

The second one on the other hand, anyone who reads it will automatically wonder if she was writing about JK or not? 

Hi 

 

Because KJK is the only one who often wears his adidas socks & slippers to RM shoots. Plus in the recent 502 episode, he is wearing the bright sweatshirt.

 

So it is easy for KJK to be the first to come to mind.

 

2 hours ago, kyoko22 said:

Before, I always have this doubt as why some people said the man in Confess Already song is JK. I mean, how could it possible that man to be JK since they just get close together from early last year (I stop watcing RM about after Wing walking episode and start to watch again around fan meeting project ep. I didn't watch the eps in between).

 

Somin said, she knew that man has feeling for her. I thought, it made no sense for him to fall for her in just short few months. So, how it is possible for JK to be that man?

Early on, I thought JK was not very friendly to Somin. I almost think that he didn't like her. But evenso, there are some of JK's actions just didn't add up to his unfriendlyness attitude towards Somin.

It puzzled me when he awed over Somin's sentimental momentos (ginko leave, childhood diary, christmas cards). The sudden hug over tofu during prison episode also something that is out of place. His unusual friendliness during Camelia Hill episode... And I also wonder why him overjoyed over Somin who failed to pair up with Sangyeob (ep 393)

Now, after I rewatch the ealier episodes post Somin and SC joined RM, boy, how my interpretation of his actions change when I understand more of his true character and watch from kookmin perspective. He intrigues by her way before I realized the existance of it. His eyes already followed her since about half a year after she joined RM. Slowly he started to laugh and enjoy her antiques. All those weird actions that I mentioned above is him who tried to mend their relationship and get close to her.

But Somin didn't make it easier for him. Gosh, even they sit side by side, that lady can totally ignore him and turn her body to talk to the person at her other side. She responded to everyone's comments but him. Not that I'm blaming her though.

So, what I'm trying to express here is, now I understand why some fans think he is the man in the song. JK's fascination on Somin is not a recent event but started long before that. If some of you notice it, it is possible for Somin to notice it too. Not that I'm saying that it is definitely him the man in the song but now I can see that probability is plausible.

Note: Seems like there is no insta story of his feet for today's filming.

 

I think because the person she describes as someone who takes good care of a lady + refuses to confess - this are famous characteristics associated with KJK. So RM viewers really may wonder if she is referring to KJK when they first hear the song.

 

Many people finds KJK unfriendly but those who know him can clarify that he is more of a 'slow to heat up' person - he needs to observe to see if the person is suitable/matchy. Perhaps the misunderstanding was JSM was playing the persona of the crazy girl/gagwoman role etc. This happens to be something which is not KJK's cup of tea for variety (his variety humor is not the gagman humor). But once she warms up to him, he noticed the difference and willing to accept her into his 'circle' (see the Zoo episode after RM FM).

 

Thanks.

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Hi

 

Sorry, but an article regarding commenting in Youtube. 

 

https://www.youtube.com/user/SBScaptain/community

 

Cyberbullying is a touchy issue ever since so many incidents for Korean entertainment scene in 2019. 

 

Thanks and stay safe everyone.

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Hi,

 

@kookminclan RunningMan  & @RM xx : thanks for the videos & translations!! 

 

3 hours ago, jialinggoleong said:

Remember, this is Kook-min clan page. it also involved Jong Kook. Jihyo and Somin are very dear to him as his closest friends.

 

The thing is that, I felt the cycle of revenge kept on ongoing and would not stop. It would be better if we put our pride on the side and try to support Somin and Jong Kook by supporting Jihyo. I have seen the fans turned 360 degrees that they asked others not to hurt somin. They did it too late but they knew something is out of control that hurts Jihyo even more. But I have seen their indifferent message that ends like I don't care about her. Just leave her alone. Sometimes little things can be transparent to tick you off. Let them be. They are in denial trying so hard to justify their behavior. Some of them put Somin as scapegoat. Jihyo and Somin correlate each other. If it hurts Somin, it hurts Jihyo. And vice versa. 

 

Jihyo is a wonderful and nice lady personally. She is introverted. She doesn't open up herself too much. If anyone wants to push her or help her, she will bring whatever she needs to do. She has made her mark and contribution in her own way. She was also criticised several times by K-netisens in the past. After wook-min's expose on haters on Somin, Jihyo is dragged into the spotlight. 

 

 

@jialinggoleong : thanks for thinking about KJK.  Yes, it may sadden him to see the fan war affecting both JSM & SJH.

 

However, personally, I think it is not easy for fans on both sides to swallow down the bad blood & stop their conflict. Both sides of fans have accumulated a lot of anger towards each other & from a psychological point of view, they need someone/someplace to let it all out. This incident happens to be the opportunity for them. Is it a good or bad opportunity? We do not know, but neither do we have sufficient ability or power to stop it. I hope RM will not have to end because of this but if it does, we have to accept it.

 

Think of it as school bullies which some of us may have gone through back when we are young. When some other kid bullies you for 3 years and you finally explodes/found an opportunity to let it all out/come to light, it is hard to blame you for letting it all out. Similarly, if passer-bys or teachers or principal came over to tell you to be more magnanimous and forge peace with the bully, I'm pretty sure normal humans (we are not saints) will have this first thought - "Where were you to come and tell the bully this when I was being bullied?"

 

Same thing - when anti-JSM fans were very active cyberbulling her or tarnishing her reputation, neither SJH nor her true fans gave a helping hand. So I think it will be very hard for the anti-SJH community to back down on this - you need to let them release their anger.

 

You are well-versed with cfandom so you know for the RM tieba forums, anti-SJH community is seriously fighting back and starting to overwhelm the anti-JSM community. The black sheep SJH fans had been cyberullying their way for too long even before JSM - every female guest was dissed (top of my mind: Xman vs RM episode - AOA/Seolhyun & Chae Yeon was very badly dissed by SJH fans). For many years, this has been ongoing, so at this point, we can only say "sorry but you reap what you sow". 

 

The anti-SJH camp has long been questioning on the inaction of SJH in all of this. It is not easy to convince people that SJH is THAT ignorant that she does not know this has been ongoing and should show some support for JSM or other female guests. When HJY mentioned her death threat received in RM, YSC actually said out loud that that there are spartace fans who are very protective of their ship. I find it hard to believe SJH does not know, or if what YSC said goes in 1 ear and comes out the other. 

 

BTW, personally, I find it also difficult to convince myself to maintain a good impression of SJH when I noticed that she is the only member who does not explicitly show any form of support to JSM. Just a simple recap:

JSJ  -   invited JSM to his radio show

YJS  -   called JSM in How do you play / mentioned her a lot of times

KJK  -   invite as concert guest / promote her book / called her in MUD / mentioned her a lot of times / active comments on her IG

HH  -   called her in MUD / mentioned her a lot of times / active comments on her IG

LKS & YSC  -  personal trip to Japan with her / drinking parties

SJH  -  ????

 

So I think the anger has been accumulating too long and the anti-SJH camp needs an avenue for release which is why they are pushing hard on this opportunity. We can only hope that it will not negatively affect RM but have to be prepared for it.

 

Thanks and sorry if I sound like an unforgiving bad person. I am just being very pragmatic at looking things.

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2 hours ago, jialinggoleong said:

the hate comments weren't about him. Was the hate comments about him? 

 

And you are right about this, but what kind of hate comments that have been bothering him? 

 

The hate comments weren't about him though. I don't understand why Jong Kook fans would go against Somin's fans for posting something needs to take action. 

 

It will be up to Jong Kook to take action about this. 

 

How I felt about the hate comment towards Somin, there is some language and cultural barrier. The translation to this message targeting Wook-min has gone far too much going to family member. It depends what you are posting. It wasn't targeting Jong kook.

 

If there is a scenario- someone bullied someone in their IG. And the person left the world, leave the spotlight, lost the job, or etc. just because of that. And there is no one to clear up misunderstanding-- will the person who lost his friend would be okay? Even his or her fanbase would mind? Would his or her fanbase be happy to see their celebrity sad? He or she make take hiatus for losing a friend or leave the job that has taken toll on their friend. He or she may try to speak up against bully  but it may not bring the person back. The hate commnet we are sending him is not about hate comment about him, but a friend of his who will go through misunderstanding and problem.

 

If it is reverse that someone is attacking Jong kook. Jong Koojk's fans wanted to share someone who can stand up for him, if they asked for Somin's help, I wouldn't mind if it is send it to her as long as it is not hate comments about her. But to reach out to her friend and speak up for him that he deserves better. 

 

That is what I was thinking. Sorry if I offended anyone who is fan of Jong Kook. If Jong Kook's fan have been worried about Jong kook getting hate comments, Somin's fans and kook-min fans will be happy to help one another because Jong kook does make SOmin happy. That is what I was thinking of but pls don't misunderstood my intention.

 

Some of you may misunderstood me of my intention. It could damage kook-min and Jong kook. But with this kind of situation that the hater send it to Wook-min to hurt him and his family (sister), he or she has stepped over the line. With cultural barrier will bring misunderstanding. 

 

Why would Jong Kook fanbase be angry if someone is asking him to let him know that the hate comment against somin is nothing to do with her. And it was targeted at Wook-min. It is nothing to do with hurting Jong Kook. But his friend will be. That is why I expressed that something needs to have attention on right person without angering the fanbase. 

 

Now, if you said it is wrong to tag him about the hate comment against his friend, okay. I just want to be clear that it is not hate comments about him, but someone else and her family as well. Good thing that her parents' IG are not in public. 

Hi,

 

Sorry to be the 'bad' person here, but KJK is an artiste. Not a manager for JSM, not the boss of her agency, not a certified psychiatrist. So as his fans, we feel it is unfair if other fans wants him to shoulder their woes. He does not owe other celebs nor obliged to help them face such cyberbullying or have to take on the explain to wookmin role.

 

Unless it is announced that kookmin is true, den KJK will definitely protect his significant other. If not, he is no messiah and not obliged to save everyone. 

 

As his fan, we felt he has done enough for his RM family. How he hang out with LkS n SJH in the early years to help them adjust. How he brought YSC under his wing upon joining. And as you know, now even JSM is in his gang. He always have been the rock of support for them, if not why would they gladly hang out with him in their own free time? He will give encouragement to them when they need it such as times like this (SJH mentioned this in pajamas friends).

 

Moreover, when her agency is not promoting her, he was there to promote JSM. His concert guest. His advertising of her book etc.

 

If KJK is attacked, we do not want to pass to other fan groups. We can report to agency, to SBS, to Korea media, to Korea police. Seek help from the correct sources, not KJK. Sorry but he is mortal, not superman. He will get hurt, just like the firing controvesy but most only remember SJH is deeply hurt tho we fans know he is hurt very much too.

 

Btw, dispatch already picked up on this wookmin fiasco, so hope korea media will make things better for JSM.

 

Thanks and hope she recovers well

 

[[Official] Kookmin Clan]

9 minutes ago, kookminclan RunningMan said:

we have some new accounts posting similar things to sominjongkookcouple/sunny and tagging kjk.  could be the same person creating new accounts. why are some people so obsessed with kookmin or in particular kjk? on the one hand, they don't like kjk any longer since he is supporting jsm. on the other hand, they can't let him go which shows they still find him desirable. totally weird obsession. now they are also including yeh's name to give the feeling they are not concerned about sjh alone.  such sick fans! 

Hi 

 

I think those are extra accounts made by anti-KJK fans or black sheep SJH fans to diss KJK.

 

For anti-KJK fans, it is usual, anything he does for the show or his friends is a sin and anything done to him is 'he deserves it'.

 

For black-sheep SJH fans, they are against him for not being close with her but close with other ladies. 

 

Let's just report if they are cyberbullying the celebs and then ignore them - do not let them affect your mood.

 

Hope LKS & JSM are better and on the road to recovery. I saw in cfandom that it seems LKS started filming for Busted Season 3.

 

Thanks.

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11 hours ago, kirbee b said:

About Somin fans criticizing KJK. In this thread - at least for the last ten pages or so, I haven't read a bunch beyond that -  I would say the reverse is more common: KJK fans venting a bit of disappointment or displeasure at Somin. Haha's alleged "reprimand" of Somin over the KJK lift. That's not Somin's fault or responsibility at all. Talk to the choreographer, who should've given them better instructions on the basic dance mechanics of lifting. Talk to KJK, who has autonomy over his own the body, and the right to decline such a painful move. I know he hurt his back around the time of the concert, and I so wish he had decided against the lift, so Somin wouldn't have had to take the collateral damage of his decision to agree to the lift. I understand why he wouldn't, and I respect his determination to carry on with the show, but his pain was nowhere near worth it.

Hi,

 

If you are talking about my previous post, do note that I did not vent any disappointment or displeasure at JSM so far in all my posts. I do not have anything against her.  

 

It is not 'alleged' but how I interpret that particular scene. JialingGo had interpreted it differently & we respect each other's view point - it is just 2 different sides of the coin. We did mentioned that there could be possibility they have spoken to Lia but since it is not shown, we never know, so we both decided not to jump to conclusions.

 

11 hours ago, kirbee b said:

Another perspective that I strongly disagree with is that Somin needs to adjust her behavior on RM in order to improve her chances with KJK or otherwise tone down some how. I'm sure for avid Kookmin shippers, it's really rewarding to see positive signs of KJK's and Somin's relationship. But that is NOT Somin's purpose on the show. She's not auditioning to be Mrs. KJK on RM. She's there to be entertaining. That purpose to entertain has to be in the forefront and has to take precedent over all else.

 

True, I agree what you meant but i don't think anyone said that JSM is in RM for KJK. Some shippers wished that JSM can cut down on her alcohol intake if possible, but they all want it for her own health, not for KJK. 

 

Even as KJK fans, we understand that not everything is about him, so we do not say anything that makes it seems like the world revolves around him. Unfortunately, KJK just happened to be a natural magnet for lovelines/lovey moments so many people tends to ship him with one girl or another. In fact, it is the antis who always attacked him anytime a ship sank or a ship rises and we just try our best to ignore the antis.

 

I understand some may find the ship frustrating, but KJK fans can only tell you to sit back and relax. Because we have gone through this frustration time and again for soooo long each time a ship arises. That's the issue when one ships KJK with any female celebs.  

 

8 hours ago, YellowDress said:

I hope everyone on this Forum will continue supporting and loving KJK and JSM individually even if the ship sinks. They seem to be really nice people and have a good bond with each other, which is what i actually ship.

 

Agreed. Should they find their own better halves and still continue with RM, I believe most of us will ship them and their chemistry. 

 

Thanks.

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3 hours ago, JialingGO said:

I don't really think HaHa would go too far with that thinking scolding Somin only for tensing up because of Jong Kook's back during Korean fanmeet. It would cause a lot of hate on Somin. I dont think in my opinion he would go so far to paint Somin for not being careful. If he cares about Jong kook's back, the best person to scold is PD. Somin was against the dance. Funny thing is that Jong kook was all quiet. HaHa knows the root of tensing up. He knows Somin doesn't want to hurt Jong kook's back. She didn't even want to do it in first place. If HaHa is not kook-min shipper, he would tell Lia to understand that dance is not good for Jong kook's back. Somin is actually under attack in my opinion for revealing her feelings for Jong kook that caused her to tense up. Without HaHa's scolding, the intimate dance wouldnt have happened. HaHa was able to help somin to overcome her feelings so she would not be so tense with reasoning of HaHa's scolding to prove that she is professional or not interested. So that intimate dance has not changed and kept the way it is. That time, Jong kook and Somin have become closer earlier. HaHa may not be kook-min shipper but I dont think he would show it because it is not his place to promote it. Maybe he was told not to mention it to balance the stance of the show. He is responsible for Spartace. He plays the role to balance the situation. Notice before kook-min happened, HaHa often commented Kook-min as loveline that Jong Kook has gotten soft that he cares about her. He is actually a warm person. I think when Kook-min got closer, RM and MUD had to promote Spartace and Jong kook-Jinyoung. So it is quite scripted when HaHa and the rest remain quiet about Kook-min. 

Hi,

 

Sorry, lets agree to disagree. 

 

Yes, Haha is actually smart & sometimes wise and he definitely adores JSM as well. But like people always say, RM is family and you can still scold your family if the situation calls for it. That's being a family - not everything must be rosy 100% of the time.

 

I did not say he scolded her, but I felt he delivered more of a soft reminder/reprimand to alert JSM to be wary not to over-stress KJK. That's why his line before that was to ask Lia to give some advice to JSM on the dance and Lia mentioned to JSM that she must not tense up.

 

For me, I felt that way due to playing that part in slower motion & lesser frames per second (oops, revealed that I was a big fan of the US drama Lie to Me) & Haha's micro-expressions is definitely not joking/humour kind of micro-expressions. I interpret it as just a statement to remind her to relax so they can achieve the part smoothly.

 

The rest are just our assumptions from our viewpoints. You are right that RM will notify Lia if they feel KJK cannot handle it but I can also say that they told Lia already but KJK will say he is okay and can handle it (all fans know he always chooses the path of sacrifice if he feels it is needed). I just think that even if it was a reminder/reprimand, it does not mean he do not respect her. 

 

As for spartace, I believed that he really like SJH and KJK and wanted them to be together, but gave up when he realized it is not going to happen (just speculation, may not be true). Still he worries for KJK and definitely wants KJK to enjoy the 'bliss' of wedding life. 

 

But i agree with your past comments on compatibility vs destiny. We are all just interpreting compatibility of 2 persons. Their real destiny? Time will tell.

 

4 hours ago, Rahayu Muktiayu said:

Yup, i agree, i love their chemistry. With Somin, oppa Jongkook free for teasing her, Somin never hit him when Jongkook teasing her, or Angry. She always smile and answer out of blue (like Jongguk kimbab). You can see in eps 495, Jongkook like uncomfortable with the one. Real or not real i am ship them to be best friend. That for me i am happy Somin is His close friend like Jongkook with Se chan and Kwang Soo. I dont like they are real sibling, but Close friend i agree, because close friend have any potential to be bride than sibling. In MUD when Shorry ask about Ji Hyo, Jongkook say, she is sister. But with Somin, he say Favorite Donsaeng (eps 451). Somin and Jongkook is like Close friend, they are support each other, come to Jongkook concert, promotion her book, come again in Jongkook concert in 27122019 in seoul, he say first Somin is favorite Donsaeng, then Favorite writter and then........

 

Same, I do not know if they are real or just close siblings or close friends, but their chemistry is great. Both in real life and for the show. If they are together, they will also have differences/barriers to work past since we know marriage is never just about love. It is more than that. So that is the same for all other ships.   He is doing his best to help her (promoting her, being a support for her). 

 

And that is enough for me.

 

Thanks.

 

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12 hours ago, JialingGO said:

I think .... HaHa is kook-min fan. HaHa commented about kook-min before. The obvious one was when Jong Kook was piggy backing Somin. More obvious when Jong kook tried to keep Somin from getting into water. Even though tofu episode, Jong kook gave tofu to Somin. Everyone's reaction is actually lukewarm and teasing. It didn't really bother Jong Kook much. He was pretty quiet with it ignoring HaHa. Even Kwangsoo said Kook-min are like a couple who kiss passionately after fighting or arguing with each other. Jaesuk stop interrupted the moment before anyone could say anything. During practice for Korean fanmeet, HaHa even knows Somin has feelings for Jong kook. He had to help her to overcome her feelings for Jong kook to be able to dance with him intimately. HaHa is a lot wiser than we thought. He was pretty quiet when Jaesuk does Kook-min teasing. Not only HaHa stays out of it, but he seems to let kook-min grow stronger than ever. For me, if he wants to stop kook-min, he would tease them by being annoying like he did for Chan-min and other lovelines. HaHa and Jaesuk are quite protective of Kook-min for some reason in my opinion. 

Hi

 

@JialingGO sorry, actually i think Haha supports spartace, but he gave up once he realized that it is unlikely to happen. I find the MUD episode very telling (where he & YSC first visited and brought up that KJK is against entering a relationship with a lady who has any linkages with his close friends. He was even not for the idea that YSC dated a girl his brother liked).

 

For the fanmeet dance, I like to give him benefit of the doubt that he said that as a soft way of 'reprimand' for JSM because she is actually causing hurt to KJK if she tensed up during the dance. We all know she cares for Kookie, but look, even just normal rigorous practice took its toll on his back. Would you imagine if she keeps tensing up during practices? He will not have lasted until the fanmeet.

 

I do not know Kookmin is real or happened. But i liked their display of chemistry, from bickering against each other to such closeness now.

 

Thanks.

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Hi

 

7 hours ago, kookminclan RunningMan said:

too many ladies for kjk in the span of a few days.  first, it was the middle-school girl, then naeun and now yoon eun hye. it is no wonder since he is the king of lovelines.

 

Yes, that is why the more devoted fans in his fandom are quite laid back -we want him to get married to a good girl but we try not to push anything. Or else the war will be crazy.

 

7 hours ago, kookminclan RunningMan said:

I watched MUD and it was a riot. usually, many segments seem scripted to me but it did look like kjk wasn't prepared for the onslaught of so many women in his house. otherwise, he would have been dressed up a wee bit more with his tantalizing body lotion on. it felt like the ladies came in before ysc had time to prepare kjk properly.  it was fun to see kjk with his young dongsaengs. always think he wouldn't have been this shy if he had sisters. the apink girls were really sweet. they cooked for him on a day when they had a long schedule. going by how they were dressed in the same clothes in other promo videos shot that day, perhaps MUD was their last promotional program for their upcoming comeback on that day. kookchan are fast turning into one of my favorite kjk bromances. love the way ysc helped kjk take care of the girls without making any of them uncomfortable.

 

Sorry, actually I think he knew. Just need to act surprised because MUD is still a scripted show. That is why many are speculating if Sechanie was actually the one who invited Hayoung over & Hayoung brought most of the gang. Even if close, inviting ladies over to your buddy's place for filming is not an easy thing if you do not give heads-up.

 

Actually the reason why the kookeun community "exploded" was because Naeun was too...different...in such a setting where Apink visits the place, technically for a show, they should be 'acting' like Apink. This is obvious for the rest - they are not 100% relaxed and still maintain some form of 'discipline' involved when you visit a senior's place + filming is ongoing. This is perhaps more serious especially when Apink is having a comeback (even potentially last comeback) in April 2020 which could possibly determine if they re-contract or not when their current contract expires in July 2020.

 

Naeun? Totally different from others & I don't mean her physical distancing from her teammates since that can be easily explained. But she is not acting like Apink Naeun, but a different Naeun (which was why in the cfandom, many are interpreting it as acting like the mistress of the house). Even the ifandom noticed as seen in the various youtube comments. So I do understand if the audience is left bewildered by her actions.

 

Of course, MUD editors also worsen the matter by putting on one of the worst edits in the history of the whole show. For a show which prides itself on smooth and continuous showing of a bachelor's life, KJK's segment is disjointed and heavily edited to the point where audience easily calls it out. For example, actually they played the game first before they had their meal. 

 

7 hours ago, kookminclan RunningMan said:

i too felt that jsm was not up to her usual self in the last episode. her eyebags were so big. it could be part of a process where she has grown into a quieter person and her early crazy character doesn't fit her any longer. or it could be that her quiet self in real life is peeking even through her variety character. or there might be other real life worries. i would like to believe it is all a part of jsm growing into a wiser young woman. sometimes she seems like a die-hard romantic to me who needs some tempering of real life experiences to give her that balance. that is why i think kjk would be good for her if she tries to learn from him as well. she has these extremely romantic expectations from her partner but sometimes love could be more about what a person does and less about what they say. with people like kjk, they take their time falling in love, but the love will only grow bigger as the relationship deepens. however, you have to give the relationship enough time

 

Perhaps JSM is going through a rather difficult phase right now - lack of acting opportunities + fatigue in chanmin loveline. But i believe she will get past it with support from the RM cast. Kookie, Sechanie, Kwangsoo are some of the most loyal and steadfast friends she can ever have. Jaesuk and Seokjin also adore her to the max. 

 

On a side note: I should count myself lucky that the 2 ladies I am rooting for, kookmin & kookeun, are not pushed by the shows themselves as official lovelines and Haha is kept out of it. 

 

Just for laughs: there is a running joke that Haha is the epitome of ultimate romance jinx - any loveline he touches...dies....

From YEH (Xman) to Monday Couple, Spartace, Chanmin, Moon Geun Young, Kang Hanna, Hong Jin Young, Eun Soo etc...once he touches a loveline, they stopped interacting in future episodes...so lets count Kookmin lucky only YJS touched this and not him. 

 

Thanks.

 

 

 

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Hi,

 

Thanks @MandelBrot for the all the work and screens captured.

 

Sorry, sidetrack a small news for Kookie fans - he did us proud again by sending a hand massager & foot massager to the cute middle school girl who proposed to him in ICSYV7. Thats why we love and respect him...

 

credits to ji._.inn.

 

Thanks.

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5 hours ago, HappyVirusRM said:

@AB_fan I’ve looked around and so far the only thing I could find was an article published on April 2015 stating that Somin recently signed with them. I’m not sure of the length of the contract though. 

Hi,

 

 

@HappyVirusRM thanks very much. 

 

Since I am rooting for 2 lovely ladies as possible Mrs KJK, I just wanted to get a sense if there are any possible timings that could spell major changes or announcements for KJK.

 

Seems like I can only find July 2020 so far...though not sure if the current COVID-19 situation will create setbacks.

 

Take care everyone & keep safe.

 

Thanks.

 

[[Official] Kookmin Clan]

Hi 

 

Sorry, will like to ask if anyone knows what is the contract period for JSM with her agency?

 

Thanks.

[[Official] Kookmin Clan]

Hi,

 

Sorry for such frequency. But 

 

https://www.soompi.com/article/1388397wpp/watch-apink-visits-kim-jong-kooks-home-yang-se-chan-cant-believe-his-transformation-into-generous-host-in-my-ugly-duckling-preview

 

It will be interesting and perhaps a new character as the "king of double standards" for KJK. Sechan can enact a jealous character.

 

Thanks.

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2 hours ago, jialinggoleong said:

someone mention there is big jong kook- naeun couple fans. So the way I see it in general term that it could happen. We don’t know what is going on behind the screen to see whether they are deep or not. A lot of younger generation a always act they have crush on him. He is very good looking and well mannered. He is Very generous with his persona to show how he can treat them very well. It could happen if he really likes someone with big age  

Hi,

 

Sorry, there is a community, mostly cfans, but I wun call it big. Just that there are people who are wondering about them since they are close and really have many common tastes/interest. And both of them are the slow heating type who does not get close easily. 

 

For cfans, kookmin and kookeun are the 2 current growing ships, since the major ships out there are not looking good.

 

Actually, the ship itself also find its quite hard to be true since in the past, KJK is not comfy with big age gap. They just hope he is less strict with that as he gets older.  But it is a growing community just like kookmin 

 

For your question, he values loyalty definitely. But because he just like to take care of others, sometimes he comes across as being to close to the lady. Refer to he 5 cranky brothers that Eunhyuk of SJ came as guest - that topic was discussed and shows how he just want to take care of the lady and ensure she is okay etc.

 

I think of it as he is the kind of guy who has moral codes that a guy shd behave like a gentlemen to lady - if you think of old english culture, it would be like the code of conduct for knights.

 

All fans will have their preferences of ships, some even ship him with everyone. Just want him to be married to a good lady. And hope it is soon.....I would prefer bubbly ladies like JSM, SNE, KHN, HJY as i find them to be better complements to him.

 

Thanks.

[[Official] Kookmin Clan]

Hi,

 

Sorry for quick post.

 

Seems like Sechan can really use the episode to act jealous.

 

Credits to kookie_me2

 

Qotd: " You have plastic gloves here?!"

 

Thanks.

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59 minutes ago, jialinggoleong said:

Sechan’s type is naeun. They kept on saying sechan is crazy about her. It was the episode where everyone brought their siblings or close friends to join the game. 
 

My delusional said he is doing a favour for sechan.... I won’t say any further to keep us from falling into abyss of delusions. it is fact that sechan’s ideal type is naeun

Hi,

 

Would that be true for real life or just show persona only? Not that sure on how to read Sechan but some believed she likes KJK rather than YSC.

 

Actually there are KJK-Son Naeun shippers community too....because she is really relaxed with him. Most Apink fans know that she is the not-easy-to-become-close-with kind of person, so it is really rare she becomes so close to him. Plus they have so many similar tastes.

 

I wun mind her with KJK though 18yr age difference is not easy to overcome. 

 

@YellowDress yes, you are right. He is easy to be friendly with since he thinks the best of people even when he first meet them. But he will be close to a person once you proven your loyalty. By that i mean you proven you are the kind to help a friend in need and not backstab people etc. E.g. LKS, YSC etc.

 

Btw, do wait for next week's MUD. Seems like KJK allows Apink to use things freely in his house (maybe kitchen towels?). It looks like Sechan is shocked by that. Perhaps his turn to be jealous with Apink over KJK...that will be really funny...

 

Thanks.

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Hi,

 

@MandelBrot Actually I find that scene more suitable for those who ship KJK-KHN. IMHO, since Switzerland trip, KHN sometimes seems like she wants to know KJK better ....It is quite cute, so I don't mind at all. 

 

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poor kjk clarified  that it was weirdly edited by the show's pds and apologised for bringing trouble to yeh. yeh, for which i will always love her, clarified through her manager that kjk wasn't someone who required her to remain popular and scolded her fans for making anti-comments against kjk.  it was then a mess with other shipper fans of yeh who didn't think he was good enough for her.

 

@kookminclan RunningMan Same here. the one thing that I respect & like about YEH was that she wasn't afraid to 'chide' her fans for being anti-KJK. This willingness to speak out meant volumes since not many celebs are willing to risk losing fans for speaking out against them.

 

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I'm actually glad that he's going back to his unlucky/clumsy character again. If anyone remembers, he basically originated the unlucky character for SBS variety shows when he was on Family Outing.

 

Family Outing was classic. KJK the original unlucky guy....YJS & DS the original Dumb & Dumber....Hyori the original gangster girl....

 

Thanks.

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Hi,

 

@JialingGO no worries, we understand you are worried for Somin. Just perhaps the phrasing is unclear thus it looks as if pointed at KJK fans incorrectly.

 

Yes i agree that if Kookmin happens, Somin will get flak from black sheep spartace fans. But similarly, KJK will get flak from his antis too, such as calling him cradle robber etc. because Somin is 10y younger than him. Truth is, no celebs can avoid this. Kim Hee Chul got it when he announced. LKS got it when he announced. Heck, even YJS got it (minimal though).

 

As true fans, we can give them support n well wishes and be happy for them. Report the black sheep fans if they got out of hand n starts cyberbullying the celebs, JSM or KJK. Both are precious and had suffered enough. They deserve happy times.

 

For HJY, it was in RM and MUD (episode where Hong sisters were having Beef intestines bbq) that she implied/said it as spartace fans n she was affected by the threats. HT was the one she revealed it was chinese fans. So thats how we gather the clues to piece them together.

 

I saw in the past posts u visited chinese sources for info abt RM too, so u know in chinese RM community, the largest ship is spartace after mc sank n the biggest fan community is SJH fans. Unfortunately, their reputation is also the worst as they had a large number of black sheep overzealous fans who acted poorly.  Even KJK had been attacked by them. So perhaps just ignore them is the best, especially at this time where the Great Chinese Fire War between anti-SJH & anti-JSM is raging.

 

Thus, KJK fandom had an unspoken agreement to not ship in open. SJH, JSM, HJY, Kang Hanna, Ailee, Son Naeun, Yoon Eun Hye - these are the more prominent ones and you can already get the picture. So i think this agreement helps us to prevent the fandom from tearing itself apart.

 

The sad thing is antis n keyboard warriors will always be there, so we have to give the celebs our well wishes n support. Above all, KJK fans just want him to get married soon coz it sure had been a long wait. I agree with @heyyoooo that it is a high chance he has found love in his life. 

 

Thanks to previous post abt bililbili sites. Actually there had been a steady increase in chinese kookmin fans in the chinese rm community. They also absolutely adore the kookmin chemistry.

 

Thanks.