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@joy joy 1 Please be respectful of others and keep the discussion here in peace. There's no one spreading lies here. Each and every one of us is entitled to our own opinion and all depends on one's understanding and interpretation.
@kyoko22 From the moment HL was stolen instead of given away, it's already veered away from history. Due to the popularity of Yanxi and ofc the couple of NY-WJY, a happy ending could be expected. But I am sorry that I am signing out of this drama now despite only having 3eps left to go. This show is too dissapointing and for the sake of preserving whatever that are good and the merits from Yanxi as well as QL-WYL couple, I decided to stop watching.
@danielassny I pretty much agree with most of your points. Thanks for wording them better than I think I ever could. I will just settle for SKY Castle, The Fiery Priest and Romance Is A Bonus Book for now.
Peace out.
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9 hours ago, pixiewhy said:
That is exactly the reason why i got so invested in them (forget the whole 'enemies to lovers' trope which is pretty popular in many stories) they were always equal intellectually and that was the most fun thing to see. And the fact that they weren't equals because QL allowed them to but because YL herself made them equal.
When comes to drama, some troupe definitely being recycled. And despite recycling this troupe, the creative writing team in Yanxi made it feels refreshing. It's not really that QL hates her, it's more that he couldn't accept there's a slave who dares to oppose him, thus intrigues him and stemming his interests. I say, this is clever writing. Almost every scenes between YL and QL are funny - be it when she was the misunderstood palace maid to the period when she becomes his woman. They are just adorably funny.
9 hours ago, pixiewhy said:Indeed that is what happened. Many even asks "Why is he so obsessed with YL when he has so many women already?" it was as if many could NOT fanthom QL falling in love (for quite honestly the second time in his life) instead of agreeing to political marriages for his nation. I don't know maybe it was me who didn't mind him being petty (in some cases) because I am petty myself so it was funny too how YL always won on their personal battles even when he was petty.
QL himself recalled the message that his father implanted in him that as emperor, he could pamper his women but not love them. As in the case with YL, he fell in love, and yes for the second time in his life. And come on, he is an emperor. His upbringing shaping him into who he is. He is so used to be flattered, to get everything he wants, thus to me, he is allowed to be petty.
9 hours ago, pixiewhy said:There was also a lot of talks in the comments of Viki about how 'old' the emperor was and How Very Dare He to look at YL?! It was funny seeing people lie through their teeth calling Nie Yuan 'an ugly old man' and saying how much better Fuheng was like boy didnt literally introduced himself as the 'Not All Men' dude from the 1700s and sided with a rapist bc he Thought that is what YL needed. For me neither man was perfect, one just had more years and experience on political matters than the other.
Historically, Consort Ling whom YL is based on was 16 years younger than QL. Nie Yuan is 12 years older than WJY, thus their castings are perfect. Idc what others think but to me, NY is the most good looking Qing Dynasty's emperor ever and he is visually compatible with WJY. It's not abnormal that older man and younger woman got together, let alone during that period of time. And why the heck comparing NY against Xu Kai whom is 17 years younger than him? That's beyond logic. It's like comparing NY acting skill against Xu Kai, definitely won't make sense.
9 hours ago, pixiewhy said:But the show in itself it's a masterpiece and now together in my top 3 with My Mister and Goblin.
My Mister is my ultimate favourite (can tell from my profile pic :-)) but I don't watch Goblin.
This drama made me do so much research on Qianlong Emperor and his harem and it's glad to know that the real Consort Ling was so much loved by QL (in contrast with Ruyi which veered away from history) and her ascension in power was reflected nicely as in Yanxi.
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21 minutes ago, SailBeneteau said:
Hao Lan's story so far: the most interesting character for me is Ying Yiren and his transformation from hostage-prince to the King of Qin.
It is surprising b/c I originally expected to like HaoLan's character the most.
I am starting to understand your point of view. And, I can see that some of the plot twists have modern-vs-ancient "issues". But, it is hard to say what women around ~300BC-230BC were like. Right? Very few were recorded in history.
Have you watched the "Legend of Mi Yue"? It is the story of Qin Shi Huang's Great-Grandmother. (Highly recommend it!)
Yes. I did. Because of Sun Li. Lol. Somehow, my preference tends to incline towards dramas within Qing Dynasty. I find the more established system during that period more intriguing. And really, I have no issue with the men's hairstyles. LOL. Haolan went OTT with the women's hairstyles, though.
My fave characters in this drama are LBW and Xiaochun. In LBW, while I couldn't agree with some of his actions, I could understand where they come from. Under that manipulative demeanor, there's still that sincerity and the values that he still hold firmly to. And I like that he is smart and resourceful with that little sense of humour. Except in this later half, they over-romanticized him and even worse, turning him into a disrespectful pervert (*SIgh*). Xiaochun is feisty and smart and compares to Haolan, she is the more level-headed one which is why I like her.
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6 hours ago, SailBeneteau said:
Historical and cultural circumstances considered, the so-called "noble idiocy" is very human (aka not really black-and-white). We, in modern times, may or may not agree with the actions/decisions. As a period drama, the actions/decisions reflect the story's timeline and backdrop. And, each member in the audience (now = modern time) will interpret the actions/decisions differently --most likely, according our own life and experiences. Actually, this is what any artistic work should do for its audience! My two cents.
This is hard to explain.
On one hand, the writers put a modern twist to this drama by giving strong female characters in general. Do women during those time conducted themselves the way the female characters are in this drama did? Maybe but definitely not so stretched up. And there goes the noble idiocy plot. So, as a viewer, it's frustrating to switch lenses to justify certain action. I just feel like a lot of justification coming from the fondness towards Yingren as a whole. I can understand that. As a whole, the writings are inconsistent with some characters going OOC and this is really frustrating.
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6 hours ago, SailBeneteau said:
I'm sincerely surprised that you seem to prefer Yanxi's story line over Hao Lan's story. And, of course, I respect your preference as an audience member.
In terms of production timeline, I read somewhere that Hao Lan was actually filmed months before Yanxi started.
It's ok. Different people, different taste. But as always, coming with an expectation from something that you love so much prior to that, the letdowns are unavoidable. I could have enjoyed Haolan so much more if only I have not watched Yanxi and loving it so much.
BTW Yanxi was filmed earlier. Yanxi was between July/August 2017 - October 2017. Hoalan was filmed from December 2017 - April 2018. Initially, Haolan was slated for 48 eps but extended to 63 eps because of Yanxi's popularity.
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Hi. High fives fellow QL x YL shipper. Anyway, being on Team QL, you are at the right place since most who commented at this forum are Team QL.
I do like Fuheng. He is all every girls could ever asked for in a first love. Even then, I still find YL's larger than life personality is more suitable for QL. YL and QL are both equals in terms of wits and their dynamic which made their relationship very passionate and tumultuous in the beginning, however once they found common ground and wipe out misunderstanding and suspicion, their bond emerged so strong. Plus, QL x YL are simply funny together. With Fuheng, it was all sweet and cute and that is why I rooted for QL right from the beginning because to me, a couple that could are funny together should stay together. LOL. And I have no doubt that YL has grown to love QL. As WJY herself said, Fuheng is her first love whom she will forever cherished but QL is her husband and she is devoted to him.
I couldn't brain why one could blame QL when he was the one "raped" by Er Qing. My only conclusion is they already have a prejudice against him and this tend to come from people who wear their modern lenses when watching historical dramas. Some values and situation are applicable in both modern and historical settings but some don't. If you wear your modern lenses, ofc any woman will root for the one-woman-virgin Fuheng against the petty-sleeping around QL but hey, he is an emperor. He sleeps and reproduces for reasons but that doesn't mean he doesn't have a heart that loves his favourite woman.
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@SailBeneteau To each of its own. It's good that you can enjoy this creativity but I was expecting a different kind of creativity. While I do understand the lack of actual historical records, this being a drama and not a documentary, and that nobody wants to watch an immoral heroine, I would expect a better twist than the exhausting drama troupe.
I still enjoy this drama but ofc, having come from Yanxi, I definitely have to lower down my expectation.
I again agree with @danielassny No matter how I view it, I couldn't find YR's action justifiable regardless that he is a king or what. I have been in this kind of situation placed by my own father. I was robbed into making a decision on our family and life's matters and no matter whatever good intention that he had, I still couldn't accept that I was robbed of my rights. Again, why should I be grateful when I was never asked if this is what I wanted? The one who outlive the other is the one who has to go through the aftermath - either you consented it or not. Tell you, this is not acceptable. Noble idiocy is never acceptable.
@kyoko22 @therewillbeddl As much as I like LBW and HL together but this is really veering way off history.
Oh, based on the video.... it seems like this LBW will pursue HL. Since WJY keeps rehearsing the lines to call in guards to take away LBW., he must have sneaked into her bedroom. God, why are they making him into a pervert?
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3 hours ago, SailBeneteau said:
Has anyone thought about whether the historical accounts of Zhao Ji (aka Hao Lan) are actually correct?? To my knowledge, the historical facts were reported by a court historian (Sima Qian who was alive around 135BC-86BC, much after Qin Shi Huang); it is known that he really hated Qin Shi Huang and wanted to show that his birth was illegitimate. We know now that Sima Qian is/was an unreliable historian on this matter.
Why can't we enjoy the creation of Hao Lan's story (circa 2019)? I applaud the creators/producers/directors/actors/team of Legend of Hao Lan for telling a story we can enjoy...
My two cents only!
As I mentioned earlier, I do know that Sima Qian harboured great resentment towards Qin Shi Huang and being a historian of Han Dynasty who succeeded the Qin Dynasty, some details could be fabricated. After all, history are written by winners.
But then, it would be interesting to watch a translation that doesn't veer too far from what is "widely" known despite this being a drama and not a documentary. When you choose to put on spotlight on a controversial figure as in Zhao Ji, some creativity on the scandalous elements would be very much appreciated. Again, I do understand nobody wants to watch a drama where the heroine is of low moral but my point is still the same.... it would be interesting to place Lao Ai in other kind of plot other than an obsessed admirer, or that LBW handed her over instead of being "Fuheng-ed".
I can't really applaud the creative team behind Haolan because it is far from creative. As pointed by @danielassny The "all men are in love with her and all women are jealous of her" troupe is too cliche. As I said earlier, if not for the reunion of NY and WJY and my enthusiasm on history, I probably wouldn't stay watching.
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@luv2munch I can't believe I am defending Yingren since it has been clear that my preference is towards Lu Bu Wei but I still think I need to justify his part.
As in my earlier reply post, he married Siluo (the concubine of Lady Huayang's choice) out of political reason. He needs to be in her good grace and needs to convince her that he is filial enough for her to adopt him. And she is Lord Anguo's primary consort and becoming her official son, means the throne is going to be his upon his father's passing. Please bear in mind, Lord Anguo has more than 20 sons and Yingren actually didn't stand a chance if not for not schemes of LBW.
Secondly, I know it's a bit messed up when watching historical dramas with modern perspective (Just like how difficult it was to digest marriage between siblings in K-dramas Moon Lovers and Hwarang). "I Never Let You Go" is a fusion-historical, thus they can romanticize the leads. Whereas in here, they based on real life figures. Men those days married and reproduced for various reasons. I don't believe that LBW didn't take in any concubines during that period. He may be did, but his love is for Haolan. The same goes with Yingren. This is my complaint on this drama where the writers not playing fair cards on the love interests. In order to elevate the other's love, another one has to be downgraded (The same happened in Yanxi where Fuheng was portrayed as a virgin until he died whereas Qianlong bedding many women).
Also, it is impossible for Yingren to visit Haolan in Zhao. Please remember, in Zhao, he is a hostage prince. LBW made several attempts to get him out of Zhao and return to Qin and that also, he barely escaped Zhao. The plan was to get Yingren out of Zhao first and then only retrieve Haolan and his son. Just that in comparison, the effort to get Haolan and son to Qin came more from LBW even when Yingren is in better power position in Qin.
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10 hours ago, Amy Joy Hendricks said:
So, Yiren and Haolan get married, and then during those 8 years when they are apart, he marries another woman? I know it's just for power, but is it a genuine marriage (i.e. does he sleep with her, etc)? I've only watched up until episode 18, but so far I prefer the thought of Hao Lan and Yiren together, than her and Lu Bu Wei...not based off any intricate analysis of their characters, just on a superficial level..
I can't handle betrayal/cheating of a romantic kind when it comes to my OTPs, so if Yiren genuinely married another woman, or has loads of concubines he pays attention to I likely won't be able to keep watching.
I know that's really common in historical dramas though It didn't bother me in Yanxi because her character seemed so unaffected by it, but as a general rule it does. But that's just me; I find it hard to deal with the emotion.
He married Siluo for political reason. He went with LBW's plan to get himself adopted by Lady Huayang since she is his father's primary consort, thus made him an heir apparent and has better chance for the throne.
Lady Huayang wanted him to marry Siluo and he had to oblige. People those days married and reproduced not necessarily out of love especially the royals. Most are for political reasons. So, he shouldn't be considered as cheating. And he is not a monk. I doubt he can go abstinence within that long period of 8 years without his wife. So naturally he can sleep with her even when there's no love. And this marriage and a son with another woman is totally in line with actual historical facts of Yingren.
Once Haolan reunited with him in Qin, you can see the difference of his treatments between the two wives. One he married out of love, another for power.
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Just to clarify.... Indeed Lu Bu Wei is manipulative right from the get go. Idk if there's anyone out there can say that he is a good man because he definitely is not. He bought Hao Lan with the sole intention to give her to the Zhao's king, thus attaining power and wealth thru his connection with her. But do bear in mind, Hao Lan also agreed to this arrangement initially, that is until she fell for LBW.
Also, she was rescued from the sacrifice ritual not only for Yingren's hold breath pill, but because LBW gave her the fire resistance cloak, bribed those people who set the fire stage and presented the white deer to the King of Zhao. To say that he didn't save Haolan is not true.
And tbf, I am not onto shipping war despite that I am on Team LBW. Everyone is free to ship whichever couple they like. I just feel like Yingren is too slow in showing his capability, thus not giving LBW much match as an opponent. Don't get me wrong, I am totally fine with bad men in dramas as long as they can give a good match, thus made the rivalry interesting just like the rivalry between 4th and 8th Prince in Bu Bu Jing Xin. Tbh I wouldn't want them to make LBW into another Fuheng either. I just hope each character could bring in their A-games. I hope to see Yingren unleashing his true potential and become a worthy frenemy to LBW now that he is the King of Qin.
Finally, let's be open and respect each and everyone's opinion and hope we can continue discussing this drama peacefully.
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@insertusernamehere Lol. Nobody could actually know what one has below the belt, right? That's why I said, some of Sima Qian's accounts could be discounted and especially that he is a historian of Han Dynasty which succeeded Qin Dynasty, thus he did quite a lot to smear Qin Shi Huang and his origin.
Idk how they are going to dress up Lao Ai but again, I still am not really fond of the one-sided obsession. I was hoping for a more creative motivation.
Oh, and can I say how much I like the colour transition in this drama. Back in Zhao, most of them wear white but now that they are in Qin, the colour tone turns darker which reflected the darker sides of each characters now that the stakes are higher.
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6 minutes ago, therewillbeddl said:
Personally I don’t think it’d be a good idea to include that scandalous aspect into this drama. Female lead will get slandered left and right by viewers and it’s not a good idea for both the actress and the drama as a whole if everyone ends up hating the main lead. People were already looking down on this drama in the beginning as many people do not like Zhao Ji.
Tbh, I’m already satisfied by the history accuracy part of the drama. The fact that they accurately depicted the ongoing conflicts between Zhao and Qin and other states, especially the Battle of Changping, LBW’s methods to make YR crown prince, the years of suffering HL went through in Zhao with Ying Zheng and even not following Sima Qian’s illogical story about Qin Shihuang’s birth pleasantly surprised me.
I do understand the repercussion but at least, they could put a twist somewhere to paint Zhao Ji in a better light instead of that one-sided obsession or better off to omit out Lao Ai. LOL But again, there's always the risk when putting a spotlight on a scandalous character as Zhao Ji.
And I agree with you about the paternity of Qin Shi Huang. They made it clear that the child belongs to Yingren and not LBW's.
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@kyoko22 I wouldn't really brand LBW and Zhao Ji (Haolan in this drama) as villains. It depends on how you view them. Plus most accounts are based on the record by Sima Qian who harbored great resentment towards LBW and Qin Shi Huang, thus some accounts of his could be discounted.
While some historical accounts are arguable and I do know that we are watching a drama and not a documentary, I would prefer if they stick to the consistent facts that are LBW reluctantly gave Zhao Ji to Yingren, thus speaks volume of how his desire for power surpass everything and the continuous affiliation between LBW and Zhao Ji, despite that he gifted her away and then, gave her an impostor eunuch to replace him.
1 hour ago, insertusernamehere said:First off, this is a really feminist drama. The women in the show are constantly smarter than the men, and do not hesitate to use their brains and beauty for survival and desires. Even a "bad" character like Princess Ya has real moments of connecting with Hao Lan on the basis of being a woman in a shitty era. Hao Lan constantly asserts her own will in her decision, and always maintains a balanced view on gender equality. To her, being a strong woman doesn't mean you have to lose your femininity or deny real physical differences between male and female. I just love all the discussions between the characters, male and female, about gender roles and the restrictions that women suffer in that era. In a future episode, Hao Lan said (I paraphrased): "The only I decided to love the most is myself. So whether it's Yiren, or Lu Bu Wei, if a man doesn't treat me right, I'd leave." That self-esteem and self-respect! This, in contrast with all the other women in the drama who let themselves ruin their lives for terrible men, is ever the more amazing. Not to say that one shouldn't go all in for love, but a lot of these men really, really didn't deserve it.
Having watched Yanxi, tbh, I don't really find Haolan as smart as Yingluo lol. While Yingluo is about survival, Haolan is driven by love. Half of her actions are anything but calculated. She is what I would consider only half-smart but fortunate. And to be fair, the reasons why the women in here appear so smart is because they made the men so stupid. The King of Zhao is useless, same goes to Lord Anguo which baffled me on how these men can become the head of a country, Haolan's dad is spineless, Prince Yao is pretty much the male version of his wife, General Gao is more of a brunt than a brain person. So, there you have it. Except for Lu Bu Wei and teeny bit of potential in Yingren, I would say the rest of the men have brains up there for decorations purpose only. Perhaps, I would appreciate the feminist aspect if only they made the male characters of compatible wits. It's similar to my feeling towards K-dramas where they always downgrade the female intellects just to make the male characters far superior and in here, it's the opposite.
1 hour ago, insertusernamehere said:Second, both male leads in this drama are SO flawed (I mean, everyone in this drama is, but considering they're the "main" roles, I find it fascinating that they're so many shades of grey - as in, they're not "good guys" or "bad guys". They are both just men, sometimes terrible, most of the time decent enough, and all the time fight for what they want and are conflicted about it). I think everyone is on the Hao Lan - Lu Bu Wei ship, and it is a very compelling romance, but for some reason I really eat up the Hao Lan - Yiren romance. He's so swoony! And a total puppy for her! Their scenes have that classic fresh romance feel
If you read thru this thread and comment sections on most drama streaming portals.... Most are shippers of Hao Lan and Yingren. As for myself, I am still Team Lu Bu Wei all the way. Perhaps I am not the kind who like the puppy type but as always, it comes down to one's preference :-)
38 minutes ago, therewillbeddl said:As for Lao Ai, Yu Zheng said that they will not follow history. It’ll be a one-sided love/obsession.
Too bad. No matter how scandalous this would be, I still prefer they stick closer to history :-(. One of my biggest problems with this drama is that almost all men are infatuated of Haolan and almost all women are jealous of her, thus her endless tortures and sufferings. Sighs.
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@kyoko22 On one hand, I appreciate they highlight on the deep love LBW has for HL... but on another hand, I am quite dissapointed over the deviation from history. I was actually hoping to see how the relationship, love and conflict between them will play out if only LBW actually "gifted" (though reluctantly) Haolan to YR as in history. And ofc, the presence of Lao Ai whom again given by LBW. They are turning LBW too much into Fuheng (sans the ambition). I guess I was hoping more on the message of how materials glory is not everything and how over-ambition and greed will lead to one's downfall.
While LBW is more expressive of his love, I think in between LBW and YR, Haolan still love LBW more. It was obvious from her reaction when she met each man for the first time after 8 years.
And isn't LBW is set to marry Bailing?
Oh, and I pity Lord Anguo/Yuan Chun Wang. He only tenured as a king for 2eps. Lol... At least YCW gets his wish fulfilled, albeit a short glory.
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I still couldn't like Yinren because even after returning to Qin, he is still useless as ever. He tried to pull the Mei Changsu's card but nope, I don't see any Mei Changsu in him. Yes, I know he is a hostage prince and in a precarious position in the state of Zhao but I would expect him to play more roles (even discreetly to at least give me the impression that his mild demenour is just to mask his true potential) but whenever Haolan faces dangers, he really couldn't come up with anything. He could even barely save himself.
That's why I prefer Lu Bu Wei. He is smart and resourceful. Yes, he may be a jerk in the ways that he broke his many promises to Haolan but a smart guy is better than a useless guy. At this rate, I am rooting for him to snatch everything that he worked so hard for.
Regarding love... Well episode 43-44 dropped little hints to where Haolan's heart truly resides. I am still rooting for LBW and HL although I know they are not the end game. Though they couldn't match their Yanxi's chemistry, I still feel that WJY has stronger chemistry with NY than with MZJ. As I said before, the stronger Yanxi's chemistry has got a lot to do with the more solid writing there.
Regarding Lao Ai... I just have a feeling that Haolan will eventually follow the same path as both Zhao's Queen and Lady Hanyang. It's as if the conducts of both queens secretly sneaking men into their palaces giving us inkling of how Haolan would be once she holds that position. And both queens actually did loved their husbands but somehow their idealism on love failed them, thus turning to lust over love. But then again, idk how they will dress up this scandalous side lol.
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@kyoko22 Ahhhh.... the same problem and gosh, the subtitles is seriously on tortoise mode. Seriously, I couldn't be sure whose baby that is. But I still am baffled why HL so easily moved on. So, she thought LBW is dead and went on to marry Yingren immediately? Apart from Yingren's proposal saving her being implicated, I don't understand why she still want to proceed with that marriage.
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In term of chemistry... It's actually lacking with both men. While her chemistry with Nie Yuan is not as strong as in Yanxi, she totally has no chemistry with Mao Zi Jun. I read a review where it was mentioned that the lack in chemistry is the result of poor writing where they just threw the actors with no material and forced them to interact with the limited that they had and I agree to that. In fact, I think NY and WJY showcased stronger chemistry in the BTS lol.
Same as ChloeR... I am looking forward to how it will end. Unlike in history where LBW "reluctantly" gave away Haolan to Yingren, in here she was stolen from him which I think will become his stronger motivation to snatch everything from YR. But again, idk how they will dress up facts on Lao Ai and her two illigitimate children.
Agree that Haolan is an indecisive character. But i dislike Yingren even more. He is almost as good as nothing. I know that he is a hostage prince but I thought we were given hint that he is a silent predator and at time of distress, I was expecting him to be able to come up with something but he has proven to be useless time and time again. That's why I still prefer LBW. While he is nowhere close to our beloved QL, at least he is smart and resourceful.
Oh, can I say how much I hate Haolan's lady-in-waiting uniform. Too fancy and non practical to be believable for a palace maid. Gosh, the many ribbons on her hair and headdress really bothering me.
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4 hours ago, kyoko22 said:
High probability the baby is LBW's. He was away for two months and HL thought he died. When he returned, HL got pregnant. And HL slept separate from the Prince.
Hey, thanks.
But someone said that HL experienced menstrual shortly after the wedding, hence implying she couldn't be pregnant with LBW's child. And though initially Haolan and YR have seperate sleeping arrangement, they eventually consummated their marriage not long after they got married. Plus, when Haolan told LBW about her pregnancy, he appeared shocked.
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4 hours ago, sharonfu18 said:
I have skimmed through to Eps 30 (spoiler alert). In previous eps there was a scene HL had her period after marrying Yingren, but they were sleeping separate bed. When LBW came back, she was supposed to leave with him but decided to stay... she did shared the same bed with Yingren so maybe the baby is from him.
What was fhe reason why HL decided to stay with YR?
Ps: tbh I don’t find this drama as good as Yanxi.. no where close. I am only watching because Yinglou and QL are in it... but I don’t like LBW’s and HL’s characters r as much as I like YL and QL
It's definitely not as good as Yanxi. We should have kept our expectation lower in the first place. As for me, I find this drama is interesting though tbh, my main draw is also the reunion of Nie Yuan and Wu Jin Yan.
Again, I may sound like a broken record, I got lost in translation. I think HL gave up on LBW because she overheard his words to YR when YR offered LBW to kill him after LBW saved him and Haolan. She didn't look pleased with what she heard and immediately after that, showing off her affection to her husband in front of LBW. Ever since that moment, she started opening up to YR.
Well, I must say I am dissapointed with Haolan. I still don't understand why she went ahead to marry YR when she had promised to wait for LBW. As for now, I just hope for LBW to just put aside his love and get what he had worked for.
In term of liking the characters, I don't really like Haolan but I like Lu Bu Wei. He is a flawed man - manipulative, smart with greed and ambition but I must say, the character is in the good hands of Nie Yuan. He just has a way of making a flawed character so endearing, just like what he did with QL. He continues to impressed me.
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On 2/4/2019 at 3:25 AM, faithwalker said:
I plan to begin watching the series today. I'm new to this forum, but truly appreciate the forums and lively discussions.
I have been watching with my limited mandarin and then rewatch with subs and here I am.... Wailing everyday in front of my pc because the subs version is way behind.
This drama has a choppy beginning but once Haolan entered the palace, the story starts to get interesting and I must say, I like it a lot and it is really addictive. Watching subs definitely give me a better impression on this drama.
SpoilerNow my heart is breaking as my ship has sinked and anyone.... If you know... Who's d baby daddy is?
Paging @ChloeR and @sharonfu18 Please join us at this thread.
And HAPPY LUNAR NEW YEAR, everyone
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@ChloeR Okay... I give up. Watched the latest episode and seems like the timeline is not right. Maybe the baby indeed is Yingren's. *I am crying my heart out here*
I know that's really common in historical dramas though 
It didn't bother me in Yanxi because her character seemed so unaffected by it, but as a general rule it does. 
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Episode 48. It was during the usual gathering of the frozen concubines at Step Empress' Palace (complaining about Qialong's excessive favours on Yingluo) when a maid was sent over to relay Qianlong's decree to promote Yingluo as Consort Ling (Ling Fei).