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  1. @RPM @frostflower How did you feel about Episode 61 as the ending? There are several ways to interpret the ending, right? I just finished watching the drama, and I feel the ending is complicated and could be interpreted as a bitter-sweet one. Please share your thoughts!
  2. @bLaZe2 Hi (hand-wave)! My personal interpretation is that an open-ended story line for XiaoChun says that she doesn't have "emotional closures" with BZ, mainly, because she doesn't need it and has moved passed the situation with BZ.
  3. Thanks for posting the un-cut (or, so-called original) ending! It is a creative, if not poetic, extension of the story. But, it leaves an "open ending" also... On the other hand, I'm satisfied with what viewers got to see officially (in Episode 62). My main reasons are: 1) the ending/Ep62 and the "voice over facts" matched historical accounts that were recorded for the main characters; 2) Episodes 58-62 really focused on HaoLan's character and aimed to enhance her. This goes hand-in-hand with what the executive producer wanted; 3) I personally believe the drama would suffer, if too much "resolution or closure" was inserted into the drama. The main and supporting characters were portrayed as complex people. They have to make difficult (and at times, very challenging or painful) decisions. This means "closures" are unlikely to happen. True in fiction, as well as in real life. Footnote: XiaoChun is a brilliant supporting character in this story! Her devotion to Prince Yi of Zhao was unwavering (though, a very difficult situation). She treated General Bai with the dignity of a physician who abided by her professional honor code. The ending implied that she would continue her life as a physician and her commitment to her life's work. Bravo!!!!!
  4. @jadecloud @macaronsandsakuratea @bluehibiscus I found the Chinese characters from Episode 45's lantern scene. Please see below: ------ First lantern with yellow flowers -- This set comes from Chinese ancient poems 300 -- The general/paraphrase/translation meaning is the image of "scattered yellow floating hearts (a type of plant = 荇菜)" and " a beautiful gentle maiden and someone who admires and desires her." 参差荇菜, 左右流之。 窈窕淑女, 寤寐求之。 Second lantern with peach blossom drawings -- This set comes from a different poem from the Chinese ancient poems 300 -- The general/paraphrase/translation meaning is the image of "luscious vibrant peach blossoms which are metaphorically compared to a beautiful bride. She comes home and brings good things." 桃之夭夭, 灼灼其华。 之子于归, 宜其室家。 Third set (a group of lanterns) -- The rest here is from the drama's writers (my guess!) --- Each line here is a separate imagery: 1) Fu Ling = a rare herb/plant. 2) mountains with "strength". 3) low marsh land where more herbs are found. 4) clouds who can think/dream. 5) beautiful maiden from the west. 茯岺 山有棒 隰有苓 云谁之思 西方美人 Fourth set (more lanterns!): -- These are also from the drama's writers (my guess!) --- Each line here is a separate imagery: 1) a type of rare/legendary flower (?Name?). 2) a cage-like box (made of bamboo) that can float on the river. 3) a type of mallow/herb. 舜花 游笼 荍 (Ying Yi Ren tells Hao Lan): Literal meaning is not as interesting as the poetic metaphor and sentiments expressed (at least for me): "to see you is like a gift for myself at last ----(they were apart for years and finally were reunited)". 视尔如荍 贻我握椒 (Hao Lan says to Ying Yi Ren): “ My King, you have shown your deep affections and feelings (for me). But I came empty handed today, without any physical gifts for you.” 王山情深...我两手空空 无椒可赠啊 ! (Ying Yi Ren pinches Hao Lan's cheeks.) --------------- @therewillbeddl @crispachu My two cents!! Perhaps the other people (= two people are tagged above here) can help with the translations. Please feel free to add to the comments.
  5. @ices23 Agreed. The combination of Ying Yi Ren and Lu Bu Wei was really good as King and Head of Government. Even Empress Dowager Huayang commented in the end that they were a "good pair" (with sarcasm and bitterness, of course). In defense for Ying Zheng (Yi Ren's son), he was really young at the time, and he was portrayed as a young king who lived many years (from birth) as a hostage. I sensed that he needed his mother/Dowager almost as a natural instinct and was probably more emotionally insecure than others of the same age. It is too bad we didn't get to see him become a mature ruler! The ending reminded me that this drama centers around Hao Lan -- her life's stories. Wonder how this drama would be different, if they chose to tell the stories focusing on another character? Or, expanded the timeline? Glad to hear that you enjoyed watching the drama as much as I did! :-)
  6. @jadecloud @macaronsandsakuratea (Please allow me to jump in here and comment...) This was a such a dreamy scene! Sending lanterns into the sky with poetic imageries.
  7. @ices23 Hi! (hand wave) "spoilers alert" Lu Buwei craved power. But, his vision for Qin was different from the young King.. While the King was still under age, Lu Bu Wei spread his power (and wealth) and completely ignored the King's desires. In other words, Lu Bu Wei treated the young King as his puppet. Lu Bu Wei wanted to get rid of Lao Ai for his own purposes only (power, influence, and status in court/government). But, he wanted to use this as a trophy to win the heart of the young King as he becomes of age....But, Lu Bu Wei's strategy failed (as you know from Episode 62). And, subsequently, Lu Bu Wei was demoted. Bai Zhong (end scene in Episode 62) was telling the young King that 1) Hao Lan employed Bai Zhong to interfere (secretly) and to resolve this "young King vs Chancellor' conflict; 2) Lao Ai was put into a court position in order to balance the power in court and reduce Lu Bu Wei's power/influence; 3) the young King must rely on himself to accomplish his goals for his kingdom (in other words, he must be an independent ruler and can't rely on his mother/HaoLan/Queen Dowager to help him accomplish his goals and ambitions). Helpful? I hope so! :-)
  8. @crispachu 2018/2019 has been really good. I'm looking forward to watching several dramas! Hopefully, you will enjoy watching Legend of Hao Lan as much as I have It is a very enjoyable. So good that it is on my "re-watch list" now. The production is very high quality (acting, music, costume, etc). After I finished the last episode (#62), I was satisfied with the ending. (No spoilers!)
  9. @crispachu Thanks for asking your friend! Have you finished watching this drama? If so, how do you like it? I presume you don't need translations/subtitles to be added (some people have to wait for that, it seems...)
  10. Has anyone started to check if the Legend of Hao Lan is still available online? If so, please post your link.
  11. @crispachu @therewillbeddl Thanks to you both! Curious question: what's the underlying reason for all of "these" restrictions on period dramas? Aren't they really popular (just like period dramas in the US/EU, such as Downton Abbey)??
  12. @jadecloud Thanks for the info and update!! So many c-drama stories might be postpone. Such sad news...
  13. @dancingbee Hello! And thanks for your note above. After watching the drama, I also read some notes from the production team on the characters. This drama has several complex hidden messages for the viewers. Each main and supporting character has their own lessons to share. Without revealing the plot (no spoilers from me!!), here are some thoughts to share: Hao Lan is portrayed as a strong independent woman who survives life's circumstances (= tragic, dangerous, political, etc). She strives to thrive in every situation and does her utmost. She is a person who lives life to its fullest in her own way. She has a strong sense of commitment (in the good sense and sometimes she is quite stubborn); she is very loyal to loved ones around her. The executive producer mentioned that a key characteristic of Hao Lan is that she cherishes life and herself (portrayed with the underlying message that "one cannot love others if one cannot love oneself"). This is somewhat of an over-simplification for me...I think HaoLan's "sense of commitment (to life, love, family, duty, country, etc)" and her "sense of responsibility (--always doing what she believes is the right thing to do or say)" is the highlight for me. Lǚ Bu Wei is a smart, resourceful, extremely driven, and ambitious guy. Born into a family of merchants, he has ambitions to achieve more in life. His ultimate goal is to achieve power (political and social) and wealth. In doing so, he abandons personal pursuits (love, friendship, etc). And, I believe that Lǚ Bu Wei lives to regret his choices... Ying Yi Ren is probably my favorite character in this story. Born into Qin's royalty, he is sent to the state of Zhao as a hostage-prince at an early age. Yi Ren is extremely intelligent and knowledgeable, and he is also a skillful politician and diplomat. The drama shows Yi Ren's transformation from hostage-prince to heir-apparent to the King of Qin. The story shows many sides of this character: intelligence, depth, wisdom, humility, love, kindness, anger, sadness, endurance, commitment to duty/country, shrewdness, diplomatic prowess, mission-driven philosophy, etc. [The actor, Mao Zi Jun, was excellent.] The actor commented about his character (paraphrase): "Think of Yi Ren as a calm bottomless lake." --This is a high-quality production and a very unique story! Besides the main characters, there are memorable supporting roles and their stories also. --Hope you will watch the drama and enjoy it as much as I have!!! Come back to this forum/thread after you've watched the drama.
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