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[sheherizade3]

DC kinda just walked pass YR (like YR was invisible?)and he didn't even look at her .

I wonder if you also noticed DC's uncle's remark in episode 32 when DC walked away after YR fixed his tie (that was the time he went to dinner with the Mins). DC's uncle said "He hasn't noticed that you are helping him." To me, that remark speaks volumes coming from someone who know DC like the palm of his hand. Even YR remarked and noticed that he looked happy after he returned from his trip to Japan.

[Guest joicy]

ripgal, do you have any idea if the nominations for SBS awards have been released yet? I just read a post from coolsmurf saying that Park Shin Yang was left out of the nomination list which gave me the idea that it was released already... was it? I tried to go to SBS drama awards thread but there are no news... I'm really hoping Jin Dal Rae gets to be nominated... hahaha Why were LDH and Jang Hyuk not nominated for best couple? haha Thanks in advance...

You can find the thread for SBS drama award in soompi. I think I read that it will be out on the 20th?

I wonder if you also noticed DC's uncle's remark in episode 32 when DC walked away after YR fixed his tie (that was the time he went to dinner with the Mins). DC's uncle said "He hasn't noticed that you are helping him." To me, that remark speaks volumes coming from someone who know DC like the palm of his hand. Even YR remarked and noticed that he looked happy after he returned from his trip to Japan.

You are right.

But DC still glanced at YR all the times, at her back. His feelings still show. But, the fact is, I admit, that people could not just stop feeling for the first love, even after 30 years - with marriage and having kids with other people, the feeling is still there, just, they know where they are and what they're supposed to do.

With YR and DC: YR is now trying to move on, letting DC go with his life. DC has no intention to go back. but they keep feeling towards each other. And, DC may notice, that YR does not look at him all the time with that sparkle in her eyes (she did look at him, but not with him knowing it). The last minute of the scene, DC looked at YR who was so into what she's doing, what did he think? Maybe a little sad that YR did not look at him? Or sad that he could not do anything for her, though he knows she's still caring about him? Or sad that YR had to see DC and HR going together, when she's still loving him? You know, DC has a kind heart and he knows that YR's hurt. I am not saying that DC is not moving on if he has a chance, but, he's holding things because of seeing YR. It's not anyone's fault, and not YR's, it is what it is. Like what people say, you should not continue to see the ex if you really want to move on.

It's hard for me to see what DC's feeling now towards HR. Obviously he is interested in HR and knowing more about her. They are relax and comfortable with each other, HR is not hesitated to tell DC anything she comes up with. And DC can talk and smile around her. I am happy because their relationship is better, in a good way. But is he feeling something more than special yet? When DW asked him to get married first, he asked back "isn't it?". He did not try to refuse - like the last time when his mom did ask him when he would get married, he pushed it to DW - shouldn't DW get married and that would be fine. This time, he just try to confirm if he really should get married first? My god, he's not thinking of YR for sure, a married woman to his best friend. So, is he thinking of HR - as, "ok, I will check out with some girl. It's not my gf yet but I will give it a try". It's interesting that, I think, DW thought about the marriage too when DC asked him if he would get married. Well, did the two think of the same girl (jk). However, DW is so much into how to get back to STH, he mentioned that he would not skip the chance (like hyung did) and I am sure that he would stab at his objective no matter what (he does not possess a kind heart and calm manner like DC). He's more and more STH alike, and I am sad, because I hope this is the drama with 3 good guys who were turned upside down because of fate, but they tried to follow their righteous path. It seems DW would part from DC and go on his own way.

[Guest Happy_Day]

Not according to HR, it isn't a farewell flower, more of a reminiscent of a past love. Thanks for the translation. Dang, I can marathon EoE tonight.

What the hell is up with HR and horticulture.

And also, why did DC react like that when she said not to judge her?

Thanks~ I like how HR said that to DC, how he misinterpreted "the girl in the greenhouse." But I hate how she always refers to herself "as the child who did this and that." I wonder how he misinterpreted that as a girl being overprotected, rather than one who needed an escape - isn't it obvious? Anyway, it seems to me that she wanted him to pry more about her past, but he didn't. LOL, he's too respectful, or indifferent.

I don't think that scene imlies that HR is making moves on DC though, like she's consciously making DC realize that he needs to move on.. Or maybe I'm missing something coz I'm really behind on this drama.

^

You think she knows about YR? Haven't seen the episode, was she making excuses to YR when she saw her in the casino? Did she look like she understood?

We're nearing 40 and HR seems so uninvolved up to now. Like she has no effect in both brothers, I really hope this changes soon. The only thing different now is DC seems to be more open to see her as a friend rather than Ms.Blackmail or Ms. Arranged Date.

But with the March due date, I'm guessing this will be extended.

I think HR must understand how she's affecting YR. For someone as astute and perceptive as HR?! I didn't like how she kind of seemed to flaunt her relationship with DC to YR at the casino. Did she have to stop and talk to her?

One scene that kind of made an impact on me was when DC and DW were about to sleep and they were discussing girls. After DW put DC deep in thought about his "girl," DC reciprocated the question and DW was thinking about his "girl" too. Maybe it's just me, but I could just imagine HR's happy little head right in the middle of those too guys lying there HAHAHA~~

I have not seen the episode either. However, I don't think that's she knows nothing or can pretend to know nothing. It's obvious signal from the past - she saw DC and YR together in front of her house with that kind of protection from DC to YR, she may have sensed st, right? Do you remember that she skipped saying about that meeting when she met DC in the dump site. And YR's expression in the lobby when HR,YR, DC, Min and Guk met together, who could not sense st? For the time she's matched with DC (must be a month or so?) she could have seen DC's hesitation too - he's avoiding to look directly into her face and he always stepped back.

So, who will not think that DC and YR had a past? Also, it's not like HR did not know anyone who longed for past love for so long (well, you-know-who) so, she may want to tell DC something about their relationship.

Agree~

I have to hand it to the writers for their attempt of making a smooth transition into HR & DC’s relationship. Many people, including myself, have been wondering when and how (if ever) is it going to be possible for DC to move on and start developing feelings for HR, without cheapening the feelings/relationship/past that he had with YR. And now I think we have the answer. The symbolic nature of the flower is powerful, indeed, as it intimately represents DC’s predicament of his painful love for YR. There is a sense of realization in DC that he finally gets it now. In his heart, he knows that it’s time to let go and I have a feeling that he will be ready to do just this, soon. Perhaps he will display the flower on his desk ans it will serve as a reminder for him to let go of the past and make peace with the present. As the saying goes, “when one door closes, another will open,” thus, the symbolism here an also signify a new beginning. And since HR was the one that gave DC the flower, she can be credited for helping him letting go of the past and moving on, as his new beginning.

That's a great interpretation! So although the flower's meaning is "longing for/reminiscent of past love," it could also symbolize how HR can be the one to break it by giving DC the flower. Although I don't think HR did it intentionally. She's not that sly yet. =P

[Guest joicy]

Thanks~ I like how HR said that to DC, how he misinterpreted "the girl in the greenhouse." But I hate how she always refers to herself "as the child who did this and that." I wonder how he misinterpreted that as a girl being overprotected, rather than one who needed an escape - isn't it obvious? Anyway, it seems to me that she wanted him to pry more about her past, but he didn't. LOL, he's too respectful, or indifferent.

I don't think that scene imlies that HR is making moves on DC though, like she's consciously making DC realize that he needs to move on.. Or maybe I'm missing something coz I'm really behind on this drama.

That's a great interpretation! So although the flower's meaning is "longing for/reminiscent of past love," it could also symbolize how HR can be the one to break it by giving DC the flower. Although I don't think HR did it intentionally. She's not that sly yet. =P

I don't think that HR was intentional in any of the talks. She mentioned the flower is easy to live, to talk about how it's like DC, and the meaning about love, maybe, as a look at her past relationship with DW. She's immersed in her thought, and DC shared the moment, with his thought about YR. She did not try to imply anything about DC-YR, or DC needs to move on. I don't think she's that sly either.

In the hotel: HR went to greet YR is an act of courtesy. She's not supposed to pass YR that way, if she sees YR.

[Guest Happy_Day]

^ I think that assuming that HR senses something about DC-YR, she shouldn't have stopped. It's like stirring jealousy, and flaunting their close relationship to someone who's hurting.. that's assuming that HR knows (which I think she kind of gets because she's always so perceptive). Also, the way HR kind of slides past the obvious questions given to her by YR, she gets it. And anyone else find it funny that she doesn't even seem to notice YR, but she just stops and turns back all of a sudden to greet her? LOL~

Oh, one more thing that interested me about the flower scene. DC commented that he likes those flowers because they are easy to live with/easy to take care of. HR seems surprised and a little giddy that he remembered what she said at the dinner table. Then, she asks what he means by that, why he likes that the flowers are easy to take care. DC pauses and doesn't seem to know how to respond.

That really struck me coz I think the writer meant to emphasize that, having HR repeat the question. Maybe it implies that YR was so hard to "take care" for DC (obviously because she is Pres. Guk's daughter), and this left him so tired and exhausted. If the flowers symbolize HR, then maybe it's foreshadowing that his love for HR will be an easier, happier one?

By the way, what is the name of the flowers? Are the Acacia or whatever? Is this was HyeRyung told HR that she smells like, HR's "scent"?

I actually think HR will avoid DC once she realizes they are brothers.

Oooh, I hope this is true. I kind of don't like how friendly they are together, and HR is so relaxed and more aggressive with DC. If HR starts avoiding DC, that will be more tense. But I think it's more likely that DC will avoid HR than the other way around..

[sheherizade3]

You can find the thread for SBS drama award in soompi. I think I read that it will be out on the 20th?

You are right.

But DC still glanced at YR all the times, at her back. His feelings still show. But, the fact is, I admit, that people could not just stop feeling for the first love, even after 30 years - with marriage and having kids with other people, the feeling is still there, just, they know where they are and what they're supposed to do.

With YR and DC: YR is now trying to move on, letting DC go with his life. DC has no intention to go back. but they keep feeling towards each other. And, DC may notice, that YR does not look at him all the time with that sparkle in her eyes (she did look at him, but not with him knowing it). The last minute of the scene, DC looked at YR who was so into what she's doing, what did he think? Maybe a little sad that YR did not look at him? Or sad that he could not do anything for her, though he knows she's still caring about him? Or sad that YR had to see DC and HR going together, when she's still loving him? You know, DC has a kind heart and he knows that YR's hurt. I am not saying that DC is not moving on if he has a chance, but, he's holding things because of seeing YR. It's not anyone's fault, and not YR's, it is what it is. Like what people say, you should not continue to see the ex if you really want to move on.

It's hard for me to see what DC's feeling now towards HR. Obviously he is interested in HR and knowing more about her. They are relax and comfortable with each other, HR is not hesitated to tell DC anything she comes up with. And DC can talk and smile around her. I am happy because their relationship is better, in a good way. But is he feeling something more than special yet? When DW asked him to get married first, he asked back "isn't it?". He did not try to refuse - like the last time when his mom did ask him when he would get married, he pushed it to DW - shouldn't DW get married and that would be fine. This time, he just try to confirm if he really should get married first? My god, he's not thinking of YR for sure, a married woman to his best friend. So, is he thinking of HR - as, "ok, I will check out with some girl. It's not my gf yet but I will give it a try". It's interesting that, I think, DW thought about the marriage too when DC asked him if he would get married. Well, did the two think of the same girl (jk). However, DW is so much into how to get back to STH, he mentioned that he would not skip the chance (like hyung did) and I am sure that he would stab at his objective no matter what (he does not possess a kind heart and calm manner like DC). He's more and more STH alike, and I am sad, because I hope this is the drama with 3 good guys who were turned upside down because of fate, but they tried to follow their righteous path. It seems DW would part from DC and go on his own way.

Nah, I don't give much thought about those secret glances of DC cuz I interpret it as the pd and writer playing both sides by making the viewers guess DC's feelings for both YR and HR, making him look like a complete jerk; those backward glances are just plain tacky. That's where I find inconsistencies with DC's character, on one hand, he tells YR to move on with her life and be a good wife to Mike, and then scenes showing him looking at YR are also shown confusing the viewers further. Except for those glances, DC did not do anything that would be interpreted as still carrying a torch for YR, the way I see it, DC must be surprised and taken aback by the 180 degree turn of YR from being mean to being nice all of a sudden. A person's demeanor does not change overnight; a person who has a volatile character does not become calm in a matter of days. DC must have been thinking after she fixed his tie "whoa, what has gotten into her, so nice all of a sudden." Its just a matter of time before DC and HR hook up and if that is not the pd and writer's intention, then they just wasted all those footage on DC and HR. Right now, I enjoy the DC and HR moments as presented and if they don't end up together, that's fine with me as long as HR is happy in the end. I am more concerned with HR's reaction when she finds out that DC is DW's elder brother. I don't think she will be a happy camper and I have a feeling that she will avoid DC after that.

[Guest zephyr]

sigh..i have given up on DC and HR's love story already. it's moving so slow i don't think there's gonna be much. sad but true

[Guest imogene_af]

Happy_Day- you have an evil HR in mind flaunting her relationship with DC... I don't know, I really think she just greeted YR because she did see her. The way she talked to DC there was so best buds that I didn't think anything of it as her flaunting the relationship. Maybe if she held hands with him or if she went, "Yea we are so going to this blah blah event tomorrow!" I just didn't find real malice in HR's actions during that time. She honestly seems clueless. Maybe she has a little idea but not that much. What a biznatch if evah!

LOLLLL at HR's happy little head ... I can see her bangs.

HR as said in the EoE thread is SUCH A GIRL around DC it's almost funny.

[Guest joicy]

Nah, I don't give much thought about those secret glances of DC cuz I interpret it as the pd and writer playing both sides by making the viewers guess DC's feelings for both YR and HR, making him look like a complete jerk; those backward glances are just plain tacky. That's where I find inconsistencies with DC's character, on one hand, he tells YR to move on with her life and be a good wife to Mike, and then scenes showing him looking at YR are also shown confusing the viewers further. Except for those glances, DC did not do anything that would be interpreted as still carrying a torch for YR, the way I see it, DC must be surprised and taken aback by the 180 degree turn of YR from being mean to being nice all of a sudden. A person's demeanor does not change overnight; a person who has a volatile character does not become calm in a matter of days. DC must have been thinking after she fixed his tie "whoa, what has gotten into her, so nice all of a sudden." Its just a matter of time before DC and HR hook up and if that is not the pd and writer's intention, then they just wasted all those footage on DC and HR. Right now, I enjoy the DC and HR moments as presented and if they don't end up together, that's fine with me as long as HR is happy in the end. I am more concerned with HR's reaction when she finds out that DC is DW's elder brother. I don't think she will be a happy camper and I have a feeling that she will avoid DC after that.

About DC: I think that's more natural/human. Mind and heart are different. His mind told him he can't be with YR, in the other hand, his heart is full of old memories and, maybe, not ready to move on. He's still checking on her , as someone important to him, though he does not intend to go to her any more, he can't help it. I see his separation from her, he's trying but not completely break up. I think you should accept it too as a fact, that DC needs a little more time.

DC may be surprised at YR's change, but in that tie scene i think he was hit by YR's sweetness.

Anyway, I agree with you about HR and DC. If they don't make them together, there's a lot of waste and non sense hint about the couple. HR's reaction is interesting but I really want they give DC-HR some clear answer before that.

Imogene_af: recently in EOE, there more posts with this one part "some people just can't/don't ...." I feel their implying is a way to get back, which I am not interested. That's why I don't want to reply much in that thread.

[lilcrash]

Andre Kim- East of Eden cameo appearance (?)

News link- http://kr.news.yahoo.com/service/news/shel...;newssetid=1352

I think they filmed this scene today afternoon (18/12/08)

Credit: as tagged

luthien...I hope so too~

[Guest luthien]

Ohhhh.. hope there will be a JH-HR interaction this time!

[sheherizade3]

About DC: I think that's more natural/human. Mind and heart are different. His mind told him he can't be with YR, in the other hand, his heart is full of old memories and, maybe, not ready to move on. He's still checking on her , as someone important to him, though he does not intend to go to her any more, he can't help it. I see his separation from her, he's trying but not completely break up. I think you should accept it too as a fact, that DC needs a little more time.

DC may be surprised at YR's change, but in that tie scene i think he was hit by YR's sweetness.

Anyway, I agree with you about HR and DC. If they don't make them together, there's a lot of waste and non sense hint about the couple. HR's reaction is interesting but I really want they give DC-HR some clear answer before that.

Imogene_af: recently in EOE, there more posts with this one part "some people just can't/don't ...." I feel their implying is a way to get back, which I am not interested. That's why I don't want to reply much in that thread.

I dont see DC as an emotional cripple holding onto someone he let go a long time ago and a married woman at that. I don't see DC/YR "relationship" which to me was non-existent compelling enough to make me think that DC has not moved on. DC made it clear to YR in episode 30 that she should concentrate on being a good wife to Mike; so the thought of DC entertaining feelings for YR, in my mind, is not who he is because it goes against the grain of how he believes a married woman should behave meaning that if he still entertains feelings for YR, he is going against his own advise to her. In the first place, their "relationship" was tenous at best, with DC pushing YR away from him and YR pursuing him. It does not necessarily mean that just because he looked back at her he still has feelings for her. That is why for me, what the writer and pd did was very misleading and puts the character of DC in a bad light as someone who still has feelings for YR while enjoying the company of HR. So the writer and pd better decide whether they want DC with YR or DC with HR but they can't have it both ways. That is why I really liked HR's character because, inspite of the fact that DW was her first love, she picked herself up, brushed away her tears and pain and moved on. Now, why can't the writer and pd do the same for DC's character?

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:blush:

[Guest imogene_af]

Hye-rin's back to her misery chick ways again in that Andre Kim picture. Is Ji Hyun modeling for Mr. Kim? Lee Da Hae shoulda bust out her Queen Amidala outfit.

OT: Happy_Day, I know you're from the same area... but fark, I'm nevah going to get out of this house with this snow!

[Guest WIE]

she is cute, pretty n great actress

btw, may i know that, did she ever go out with lee dong wook?

[Guest csfan]

thanks lilcrash for the pics of LDH.. She looks so pretty but gosh.. looks bad for HR.. She looks so sad, no more happy smiley HR! Dont tell me thats when she knows about DC/DW are brothers and is avoiding him????????? *sighs*

[starlitkisses]

I got this from Coolsmurf Domain:

Andre Kim Guest Cameo on East of Eden

December 18, 2008 by coolsmurf

Fashion designer, Andre Kim will guest star on East of Eden.

Internationally renowned Korean fashion designer, Andre Kim appeared at MBC Dream Center in Gyeonggi-do on the afternoon of 18th December for filming. He will act as himself in a Andre Kim fashion show designed to raise funds and will work together with Kim Ji Hyun (Han Ji Hye), who is managing the hotel.

[Guest joicy]

I dont see DC as an emotional cripple holding onto someone he let go a long time ago and a married woman at that. I don't see DC/YR "relationship" which to me was non-existent compelling enough to make me think that DC has not moved on. DC made it clear to YR in episode 30 that she should concentrate on being a good wife to Mike; so the thought of DC entertaining feelings for YR, in my mind, is not who he is because it goes against the grain of how he believes a married woman should behave meaning that if he still entertains feelings for YR, he is going against his own advise to her. In the first place, their "relationship" was tenous at best, with DC pushing YR away from him and YR pursuing him. It does not necessarily mean that just because he looked back at her he still has feelings for her. That is why for me, what the writer and pd did was very misleading and puts the character of DC in a bad light as someone who still has feelings for YR while enjoying the company of HR. So the writer and pd better decide whether they want DC with YR or DC with HR but they can't have it both ways. That is why I really liked HR's character because, inspite of the fact that DW was her first love, she picked herself up, brushed away her tears and pain and moved on. Now, why can't the writer and pd do the same for DC's character?

Different people / different shipper has different take. I am a LDC fan and I care more about his feelings as a normal man/person. As I said, even a person who got married long ago may still have feeling for the first love, this is not betrayal or anything serious. Just you are a man, and you cherish all the relationship you have so far. I believe if it comes to the time DW needs help, HR is still willing to come to him and comfort him. To HR, DW is someone special that she will take care more than an ordinary friend. I believe that, for DW, HR and JH are like that. And for DC, YR is like that too.

Of course I respect your opinion. And I share a lot about YR's character, just about this part, I have different take.

[Guest Happy_Day]

Happy_Day, I know you're from the same area... but fark, I'm nevah going to get out of this house with this snow!

I had to drive today, but the roads are so icy! So crazy.. I'm worried about how I'm going to drive to work next week. At least the snow didn't come during finals.

I guess I'm the only one who thinks HR has a been of malice behind her actions, intentional or not.. Hmm.. Or maybe she's just tactless right now, which is out of character for her. I thought she definitely noticed something when the three were eating together with the two Presidents. All the girls have moments where they irritate me. =/

[Guest ripgal]

^ Hello there.. you're always back at the right time, when HR appears..hehehe..

lilcrash, thanx a lot for the new EOE BTS pics of LDH. She doesn't look that cheerful or happy as before, don't you guys think? Maybe she's just required to be mopey or sad in that scene.. hmmm...

p/s: Those in the States/Canada...be careful in the snow! hehehe...