[OFFICIAL] JongJoo|Honey Couple (Lee Jong Suk ❤ Han Hyo Joo)

[starfield]

Sigh, though I really want to tell guys to tone the xxxx down the stalking and what I consider a cardinal sin that is pestering the celebrities' staff, I know it's no use because people who visit this Soompi thread are already the sane ones, the cray cray crowd on IG simply cannot be controlled or reasoned. I think JS's staff already have had similar experience from the past (LOL, and I know for a fact that they are still being bothered by a certain group and now some JongJoo shippers have joined the madness), but this must be an eye-opening experience for Hyo-Joo's team. My only solace is that the cray cray club members comment almost exclusively in weird incomprehensible English or other non-Korean Asian languages, so the impact is somewhat softened (still annoying though). I have been and still am a non-shipper fan of a few other stars, and I still loathe certain shipper fans with the passion of one thousand burning suns (lol), when instead of having fun in the confines of their own fandom they have to go around spreading rumors, photoshopped pictures of two stars being intimate with each other and lie about them being authentic, pester the star's staff and friends, attack the stars' other co-leads that aren't the one they ship the star with etc. It's funny that prior to JongJoo I was involved in several fandom wars attacking the above described shippers as delulu, and now I am here  

Was speechless when I saw posts suggesting both or one of JongJoo's groups are staying at that hotel because I myself stayed there during one of my trip to Tokyo No comment on whether I agree that is the hotel they are staying in, and I do hope bad things will happen to anyone who tries to actually go there and bother them, all I can say is that I highly recommend this hotel it's very romantic, has great service, excellent view (esp the tower facing rooms as well as the top floor lounge), and located away from the hustle and bustle of touristy areas but is very convenient to get to places of interest. I especially highly recommend people who visit Japan on honeymoon to stay there

[skittles87]

7 minutes ago, starfield said:

Sigh, though I really want to tell guys to tone the xxxx down the stalking and what I consider a cardinal sin that is pestering the celebrities' staff, I know it's no use because people who visit this Soompi thread are already the sane ones, the cray cray crowd on IG simply cannot be controlled or reasoned. I think JS's staff already have had similar experience from the past (LOL, and I know for a fact that they are still being bothered by a certain group and now some JongJoo shippers have joined the madness), but this must be an eye-opening experience for Hyo-Joo's team. My only solace is that the cray cray club members comment almost exclusively in weird incomprehensible English or other non-Korean Asian languages, so the impact is somewhat softened (still annoying though). I have been and still am a non-shipper fan of a few other stars, and I still loathe certain shipper fans with the passion of one thousand burning suns (lol), when instead of having fun in the confines of their own fandom they have to go around spreading rumors, photoshopped pictures of two stars being intimate with each other and lie about them being authentic, pester the star's staff and friends, attack the stars' other co-leads that aren't the one they ship the star with etc. It's funny that prior to JongJoo I was involved in several fandom wars attacking the above described shippers as delulu, and now I am here  

 

Sorry to cut your post short. I really have a thing against the photoshopped photos... In my opinion, it's ok to post, but to tag a lot of people (both celebrities and staff) to the photo(s) is quite overwhelming! And with today's technology, things spread instantly on the web. It's hard for people who don't follow the entire story to decipher whether it's the truth or not... Hence, the start of unnecessary rumours.

I really wish fans/shippers can give them some space and privacy. Of course, that's only a wish since everyone's mentality is different and I can't expect people to all agree with me... I'd much rather prefer the interactions in this forum over other SNS. From what I've read from everyone, we would actually put some thoughts into the comments before posting. 

[lovely_skham]

For me I detest the Photoshop and the Circling, it literally drives me up the wall especially if its not the same and 90% of the time it isn't. Comparing clothes is one thing when it has relevance and makes sense but comparing something that was literally years upon years ago is quite the stretch. Seriously all in good fun but some take it a little far. Sometimes I cant help but respond by saying no its not the same, even though I am a shipper I don't want to start thinking oh because LJS had his LV passport holder that it ended up the same as HHJ's passport holder, lol yes its brown and monogrammed but its not LV so stop saying its the same. Also the rings, are not the same, I keep seeing this around IG all the time. I love a good couple item as long its proven that it is the same and it has legitimacy.

Certain shippers are making us [the entire fandom] look like we are the delusional ones by saying they are the same when clearly its not. I just wish that they wouldn't have to post it and try to make others believe its true when it isn't. I wanted our fandom to be different and not like the other crazy shipper fandoms out there with their incessent false/delusional posts .

Sorry since @starfield started it and @skittles87 told her thoughts I might as well tell you mine. 

Literally eye-rolling, upon eye-rolling where my eyes have done a triple flip. 

[starfield]

11 hours ago, Ondine said:

 

It's so cute how when he started walking towards her, she smiled so brightly, like she was expecting him to play around with her as her toddler friend, but it turned out he had other plans. It's so interesting to see her flustered, because she's so cool most of the time in the BTS videos, or until the final W broadcasting when they started releasing the more incriminating BTS that showed that she's gotten flustered by him more times than we were shown before.

 

It's an illusion. Or maybe a river in Egypt...

 

OMG and I love your descriptions of that moment! Yeah HHJ wasn't even looking at LJS at the beginning, when she saw him coming her way, her face brightened up sooooooooo cutely and innocently, like her toddler playmate is gonna join her in the playground or something. But then she realized it was the big bad wolf version of JS that's coming for her and she's all Oh noes I got to run!!! 

Exactly see how our perceptions are easily manipulated by the limited amount of information we are privy to. Before the release of these two or three recent BTS clips, it was almost a fandom consensus that LJS is the one who's obvious with his affections and that it was so hard to tell what HHJ was thinking, all we were comfortable to agree on was that she seemed to be fine with JS's constant touchings and staring so that's something? LOL then along came all these BTS that showed us a flustered and very much affected HHJ in various occasions, and her aloof image in our collective minds cracked 

And I am sorry if people took my joke about MBC submitting the BTS clip literally! No they made the MV as part of a campaign/promotion for fans to vote for JongJoo (in their capacity as KC/YJ) in the best couple competition. It's just funny because other nominees are highlighting sweet moments IN THE DRAMA while ours is purely BTS. Well can't blame MBC since lovey dovey moments are comparably few in W and our couple are just so much sweeter in real life

[skittles87]

@lovely_skham the rings really got on my nerves too! They're not the same colour/material, not on the same finger, both have been spotted for ages even before W started.. People literally have to be blind to say they are identical!! It's like claiming Mars and Saturn to be the same. 

[alliamoon]

There are stalkers now?! Ok that is called harassment. And it's not healthy for anyone involved. I have no ideea what is going on in social media regarding this ship but stalking actors or their staff is wrong. I have never ventured outside Soompi for information, nor do I have an Instagram account so I don't know how out of control this thing has gotten. But from what I have read from your posts above it's not ok and it's not fair either.

Those actors and their staff are PEOPLE! Just like you and me. I know I already posted something similar a few days ago but back then I had no ideea things have gotten so out of control. I think that people should take a few steps back and look at the bigger picture. By acting crazy and demanding information, pictures, scoops, et caetera they are doing something very wrong (ill actually). We as fans or shippers don't get to demand anything. It's their lives so those are their decisions. We have no say in their personal choices whatsoever.

Their "duty" to the fans is to choose interesting projects and grow professionaly as much as they can. After the camera stops rolling their life is their business. They have family and friends who can also get hurt or feel hurt in the process. I remember now the hospital roof scene in W where LJS wore a white shirt with "None of your business" written on the back and find it very fitting now.

These beautiful people work hard for what they have. They don't owe us any explanations for their choices. Their fame is due to their work not to the amount of gossip written about them. 

The people who do this don't realise how much they hurt the ones they clame to love or appreciate. And by pushing so much they can do more harm than good.

Those are real lives and they are real people. I wrote a post earlier for those who were saying something about writing fanfic about them as a joke, trying to be funny but also pointing the fact that legal action can be taken upon such a thing. How would we feel if one day someone would put us in a fish tank and watch our every move? My mail account has been hacked at one point in my life and all I can say is that it did not feel good knowing that a complete stranger had access to my thoughts and personal life. 

It's not ok to feel like you are not in control of your life anymore and it's not ok to make other people feel that way either.

The staff members can lose their jobs because of this so this is not something to joke about. It's their Instagram, or Weibo or whaterver-you-want-to-call-it-and-they-have-it account so they can post whatever they want. No matter how desperate people can get they must learn to respect other people's privacy. 

Also LJS and HHJ (even though I like them I have to say this) are actors / models/entertainers/anything they choose to be. They are nice enough to let us take a peek at beautiful or happy moments in their lives. That has to remain their choice and they should feel comfortable when / if they choose to share pieces of their personal life. They should be remebered first of all as actors not as "those people who we believe are together and we want the proof".

We all have the right to have a happy and sane life. Let's keep in mind that this fact applies to people who are in the spotlight and for the people who work with them too. 

[lovely_skham]

@skittles87 Yeah at the end of the day, its definitely not as bad as some I have seen with my other fandom and the "other" fandom. I am crossing my fingers that the people that have done this sort of thing read our thread and realize how ridiculous it is when they insinuate things like that. I realize that we may sound like hard asses but at the same time, does that not look a little desperate if you have to circle: rings, passport holders, lip balm, and sunglasses. I want us to refrain from posting things like that or I literally will have a conniption. 

On a brighter note, I am glad that LJS had time between his FM's to see the city of Tokyo and HHJ as well even with her 1 photoshoot in the beginning of her 3 day stay. 

It is really nice to know that they had a little "OBVIOUS VARIETY AGENCY" type of feel going on.

[starfield]

@skittles87 Yeah I mentioned before how annoyed I was at the growing number of photoshopped JongJoo images being spread everywhere these days. Photoshopped images are only fun when they look obviously fake and the author has no intention to make it look real. So many fans fell for those very real-looking PSed images of JongJoo taking intimate selfies at the wrap-up parties, and even show them off as "proofs" when arguing with other fans and I was just... *facepalms headdesk*

Sorry you know usually what kind of fans make photoshopped images of their ship that try to look authentic? Other than those who are trying to advance their skills and say work for the graphics industry, only desperate stans desperate to falsify evidences that their ship is sailing because it doesn't seem to be the case in reality will do such a thing. I do think JongJoo have quite enough objective facts supporting their 'good relationship' (be it romantic or friendly) to not have to resort to making up fake evidences?

@lovely_skham The couple ring, couple socks, couple everything obsession is another one of my pet peeve. It's one thing to point out two people wearing exactly the same clothe because it's often obvious, though often wearing identical clothes don't mean much anyway, but rings and other tiny accessories that fans can't even get a clear picture of, especially when longtime fans have already told you that piece of jewelry has been worn by the star for years... it's just... There was a small crisis in one forum the other day when fans saw LJS wearing his pinky ring again, because he did not in his Seoul FM and some fans took it as evidence that he was dating HJ because wearing a pinky ring= being single in some Asian culture. Then since he was wearing the pinky ring again it must mean gasp OMG he broke up with HJ!!!11! I was so frigging annoyed I started laughing hysterically.

But on the flip side of the coin, the emergence of cray cray fan behavior is the unavoidable byproduct of any popular fandom, it means that JongJoo is now becoming a bigger fandom when it had a niche/inconspicuous following only two months ago 

[skittles87]

@alliamoon So true.. We like them for who they are, NOT who we want them to be. One day when these crazy obsessive people realize their idols are not what their ideal illusions are, they will go insane~ 

@starfield LOL!! The pinky ring can also mean divorced... Does that mean LJS was secretly married and got divorced too??  Hahahaha!

[ixxdhx81]

When the first time I saw the ring, I was shocked with it. First, second, third time I was still believing. Until I saw on the BTS. I realized, okay the ring has nothing to do with their relationship. It's not similar.

I usually go to IG after I got the info from here.

Please don't be too obsessed, sometimes obsession can lead to something dangerous. It's not a good thing, friends. Please consider their privacy. We should be thank you to them. They're celebrities, thank you for sharing "your life" with fans. But as a good fan, in return let's give them time for enjoying their private life.

But seriously, Jongjoo is my happy virus. Thank to them, my mood has been very good lately. Though I go back and forth from looking at my work (laptop) and this forum (my cellphone).

57 minutes ago, skittles87 said:

@alliamoon So true.. We like them for who they are, NOT who we want them to be. One day when these crazy obsessive people realize their idols are not what their ideal illusions are, they will go insane~

Couldn't agree more with it, we like the star as who they are. The real fans did not turn their back when their star was not as they wish to be. Please consider, they're human too.

[starfield]

@alliamoon Yeah it's scary when fans feel such strong sense of entitlement, we can choose any second of the day to stop supporting a celebrity for whatever reason, maybe I just can't stand his new hairstyle or whatever LOL! But we absolutely have ZERO right to demand how they live their private lives.

@skittles87 GASP! FAINT! How DARE he!!!!!!!!! I demand all the time and emotions I invested in this ship back now!!!! Hahaha and hey, if people assume that he is wearing a couple ring with HHJ right now, and he happens to switch to a different ring sometime later, and what is worse a ring that matches with another actress's then fans are gonna go insane 

[mimi_0]

yeah,yeah right !!!!!! whatever!!!!! but can't they go public if they are dating just to calm us who are so anxious worse paranoid about about them,honestly for me all i want is confirmation,if they are dating, i'm fine with that if not still okay

14 hours ago, mimi122789 said:

 

[Olivia Panelewen]

@lovely_skhamthis pretty boy become a man which full of love, gentle, tender, manly things. but not lose his cuteness side  thx to our pretty noona 

Edited September 28, 2016 by Olivia Panelewen
Sorry

[starfield]

33 minutes ago, mimi122789 said:

yeah,yeah right !!!!!! whatever!!!!! but can't they go public if they are dating just to calm us who are so anxious worse paranoid about about them,honestly for me all i want is confirmation,if they are dating, i'm fine with that if not still okay

 

Why should they go public just to calm your nerves though? Have you considered the fact that many celebrity couples broke up exactly because they were exposed too early, when their relationship was still too fragile to withstand the overwhelming amount of media coverage, pressure from both stars' fandoms, and other forms of public scrutiny? Do you want them to be happy, or do you just want them to make you happy by confirming that your theories are right, without caring if they form a healthy and long lasting relationship by revealing it only when they feel confident enough to?

[Wanderlust]

GUILTY as charged! I am one of those shippers who do scour IG late at night when I can't sleep for any updates on #JongJoocouple...however, it does make me cringe when I see the little arguments between other ships and JJ shippers. It also annoys me with the red dot circles to indicate "likeness". I'm not about to go into that issue, though. Like I mentioned before, likeness doesn't indicate anything! I don't know why these shippers go crazy to find every little similar thing to associate it with their OTP. I have a gold ring, a silver ring, an LV wallet....does this mean that LJS and I am dating? I mean, these celebs have money, are up to date on trends, represent many designer brands--of course, they're going to have similar items.  However, I don't say anything...I think these shippers are probably very young ....I"m shocked that some are 12-13 (I'm sorry if you are 12 or 13 and reading this forum..lol). I just wished that they wouldn't bombard the LJS/HHJ team w/ stupid questions to invade their privacy. We are lucky enough to have little bits of information here and there, take them here to soompi, and do a Nancy Drew on them! But to directly bombard these IG accounts with more pictures or facts---gosh, how annoying and juvenile. 

Me---I'm just happy that as of late, Jong Suk looks the happiest, sexiest, and manliest that I have ever seen him! He certainly does wear his heart on his sleeves. And...the fact that they're both in Tokyo together.....my shipper heart just can't take it anymore.  Even if they're not dating, as close as they have gotten in the past couple of months, I don't see any issue why friends can't meet another friend for a meal when they're in the same city. And if their team is together--even better. I love the camaraderie between their team and themselves..it just shows how far their relationship has progressed from the first script reading to now. 

[thereroos]

 

[mimi_0]

maybe you're right. 

[_yellowcarina_]

I really appreciate everyone's posts recently but I feel like all the great and articulate posts here will just fall on deaf ears. Why? Because our forum is a community where we are all reasonable and sane fans. I have not read any posts that are deemed inappropriate or delusional in this thread. There are many shipper fans outside of this thread who are very intense with their actions and I do not believe that particular group visits our thread. So as wonderful as all the posts are regarding safeguarding our couple's privacy, I don't think this thread is the audience for it. I feel like as fans, this Soompi community has been very appropriate and supportive. We all try to reign it in when there is even a slightest hint of disorder and I truly believe we will continue to do so. Even when we get a little bit overexcited, we reign it in hard! "HEY! Let's not get too excited" lol We are so level-headed and mature here that even when we should be happy, we check ourselves lol 

I am going to circle back on the Japan trip and my thoughts regarding that. As an outsider, I can only share what I believe. Until they confirm, all of our thoughts are our opinions and speculations. My belief is that yes, they have something so incredibly special. And it is my personal opinion that they are together. Look at that BTS video. You can clearly see the progression from a shy interest to a genuine liking. I look at them and I can't help but feel bliss that they found each other. They are so in sync in every way. And LJS, the way he looks at HHJ - I see so much love and gentleness in his eyes like she is the only person in this world who can bring that joy. Life is beautiful when you have someone to share happiness with. I hope that where ever they are in Japan that they were able to spend quality time together. It's obvious that there is heightened interest in them now so they will be more careful. And let's say they are together. How beautiful is it that even though they are both swamped with work that they find the time and make an effort to be at the same place, not so long after W? 

I hope my post doesn't cause any offense. 

New Members: Once again, please do not quote pics or videos. 

[May Low]

Just want to share this cute pic that our poor Soo bong sshi have quite a lot of bad times in the drama:

 

[mimi_0]

you're right ! for me i don't mind if they will be a couple or not but what i do really hope is that they will be BFF it's just too addictive to watch