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Episode 21 Video Clips

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AF8CQpoxDEk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMK8wgcwoIQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIK98eyjkds

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZ_fxfONW2o

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYqozvmNbT4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DckwbEn07Y8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pwZ0ZQdrHo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BaQVdjP1jMU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NL07xze5454

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31n5y4p7hng

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" New noble man seems interested with JYS invention... "

The person is Choi Man Ri, he was the strong advocate against the creation of hangeul

Choi Man-Ri is the head (Bujehak, 副提學) of Jipyeonjeon and other ministers presented a petition (Sangsomun, 상소문 上疏文) to the King & tried to stop the project related to the creation of Hangeul. 

Choi Man-Ri says in his petition, "It is not right that the King is taking care of Hangeul project that is not so urgent, even when you needed medical treatment for recuperation."

Against this, Sejong showed significant scholastic self-confidence through saying "Do you know Eunso ( 운서 ,韻書, rhyme or rime dictionary)? & Do you know Four tones (Sasong, 사성 ,四聲, Chinese phonology)", Seven consonants (Chil eum,七音) and how many letters (Jamo, 자모 ,字母) are there? If I don't correct the Eunso (韻書), who will correct it?". 

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[HanCinema's Drama Review] "Jang Yeong-sil - Drama" Episode 21

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I don't really feel that bad for Hee-ji considering how often he manages to get embroiled in life-or-death situations, and then proceeds to enravel all the nearby characters in those same crises. Aside from how generally dangerous Hee-ji is as a friend, he has this bad habit of sucking the oxygen out of the room with his own mostly irrelevant storylines. There's a great montage here that's pretty much a greatest hits collection of Hee-ji either being a jerk or being interrupted by a conspiracy whenever he tries to act a little more senxible for a change.

Yeong-sil? Well, he's a friend to Hee-ji, and it's admirable the extent to which Yeong-sil is willing to stand up for Hee-ji. Sure, we should always be skeptical when a friend has a large visible gash and claims it's just a shaving cut. But when people start waving swords at Hee-ji it's usually because they've been stymied from brandishing their weapons at someone else. Although maybe I'm discussing this point a little too much. Post timeskip Hee-ji is nowhere to be seen and has presumably stopped interrupting the story. Maybe. I'm not making any promises.

So, onward to the next great scientific cause. In the immediate sense, though, Yeong-sil continues to just focus on science and the learning curve involved. I rather wish that "Jang Yeong-sil - Drama" had gotten to discuss its astronomy more in-depth because it's often hard to grasp why the next stage of the conflict ends up being more difficult when the last stage seemed to have been solved by a random scientific insight. Earlier episodes addressed a lot of this by showing that Yeong-sil was keeping complicated records of his empirical observations.

But now, at this late date? I can still appreciate the stronger points of "Jang Yeong-sil - Drama". The musical beats are excellent. It's very easy to tell when a scene is dramatic, or how dramatic it is, when the score starts getting tense. Additionally, the bagpipe music is still great because it's become a sort of symbolic leitmotif of the greater importance of Yeong-sil's endeavors and why he's such a committed scholar.

Yet so much engaging material remains just beyond the periphery. The development of the Korean alphabet is thrown in here practically as an afterthought. This is somewhat sensible, given that Yeong-sil didn't have much to do with that particular initiative. Then again, most of Yeong-sil's activities throughout this drama have had a tangential relationship with his actual accomplishments, so logic here isn't much of a defense.

Review by William Schwartz

http://www.hancinema.net/hancinema-s-drama-review-jang-yeong-sil--drama-episode-21-92371.html

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On 3/7/2016 at 8:05 AM, gerrytan8063 said:

Preview to Episode 20

Mathematician: Vice Minister Jang's observation records definitely had its flaws 

Jo Gwang (Old Man): Finally, the sun had risen...as for some people to say....they will be crestfallen (despair) with the sun

Sejong prepares for the solar eclipse. Whenever court astronomers predicted a solar eclipse, the king and his officials donned white robes (a symbol of regret and repentance) and held a ceremony aimed at bringing the occurrence of this "unnatural'' phenomenon to a close as soon as possible.

JYS: What is happening here.....there is not much time left to the solar eclipse 

JYS informs Sejong

JYS: The prediction to the solar eclipse had been miscalculated (mistake)..... There is someone who is trying to stop (obstruct) us

Sejong: Even if it is wrong, it is of no matter of concern, even if we do not complete the Solar eclipse ritual ceremony...considered that time that was we have calculated is "our time"


In this episode, King Sejong exhibits great calmness, positive attitude, and the total faith in his solar eclipse team which results in the precise ceremony times and contributes to the harmonious support from his ministers for the future studies of science.
 

There was not one female at the solar eclipse ceremony. No queen, no princess, not even a palace maid. Next to King Sejong on the stage were his sons only.

 

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On 3/13/2016 at 11:13 AM, gerrytan8063 said:

Episode 20

Just to note that the mathematician Yi Sung Ji & Jeong Inji is using bamboo stick as a sort of calculator, they also use their finger lines as a sort of handy calculator

Long before the Arabic numerals were known 

The beginnings of Chinese Math dates back to the 2nd millennium BC. During this time, small bamboo rods were used to identify the numbers “1-9” which were then placed in columns corresponding to the units - tens, hundreds, thousands, etc. Interestingly enough, their decimal place value system is reminiscent to the one we use today. Many are not aware of the fact that this was the first such number system adopted by the Chinese long before it was ever adopted by the West. However, because there was no emblem for “zero”, tens, hundreds, thousands, etc. were assigned different symbols.

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Rod numerals (筹 ,籌, chóu)

Rod numerals or counting rods were a positional numeral system used by merchants, mathematicians and astronomers from the Han Dynasty to the 16th century.

In Ancient China, numbers held a great significant and inclined mathematicians to delve into mathematical patterns. Different numbers were believed to have cosmic significance – in particular, magical squares (The Lo Shu Square circa 650 BC - similar to the present day Sudoku or Latin Square. Squares, where numbers on each row, column and diagonal added up to the same total. These “magic squares” were associated with spiritual and religious significance. Around 200 BC, mathematics textbooks were created to help teach the practical uses of math. These textbooks delved into various topics such as trade, taxation, paying wages, and engineering.

 

 



I find the bamboo stick, human's fingers and finger lines as a "calculator" fascinating... 
Growing up watching my mom using an abacus as her calculator, I was amazed to discover how fast she was on computation tasks.
 

Image result for thai abacus


The success of predicting the solar eclipse in 1432 during King Sejong's reign using 'human' calculators, the observation records ( in this drama, JYS's), and the knowledge from foreign countries ( such as Ming China ) truly leave me with high respect for the Koreans both their King and his people.

 

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" There was not one female at the solar eclipse ceremony. No queen, no princess, not even a palace maid. Next to King Sejong on the stage were his sons only. "

Female don't attend solar eclipse ceremony because they are the "yin" factor & will be considered a taboo, the sun is consider "yang" & having a "yin" factor present during a solar eclipse would be seen inappropriate. Although the Queen privately will do a cleanse ritual where she devotes her heart & soul in her chamber as seen in drama Sejong the Great Episode 49

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Episode 21

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Sejong movable metal type font for printing is known as the Gabin ( 갑인 , 甲寅 ) font, it was name after the sexagenary cycle year 1434 (16th year of Sejong reign)

In this episode you may hear mentioned about the Sadaebu 

Sadaebu (사대부, 士大夫) ) who pride themselves as Joseon.....are Joseon bureaucratic force that consist of scholar official who attain their officialdom through civil service examination that the scholarly meritocracy was based on the mastery of Confucian classics as their formal education, although the examination gave the opportunity to pursue political power & honour.

Although the examination based beaucracy heavy emphasis on Confucian classics that ensure eloquent & erudite scholar & academics but the system lacked formal safeguard against political corruption....once their political future is secures, officials are often tempted to corruption & abuse of power 

As JYS had told to Jo Gwang that the power must rest on the people (baekseong) & not solely to an elite class & downgrade Jo Gwang as the people

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