[Drama 2015] Answer Me 1988 응답하라 1988

[Niel2804]

12 minutes ago, shinheenim said:

Hhhhhh I know right ! .. in previous reply series it wasn't that complicated .. 

Like in ep 18 when adult DS is having an interview alone .. she says that her husband doesn't like doing interviews (I was lik "writer-niiiim why why would you do this to me" since I'm team JH and I know that TK doesn't like interviews" but then, adult husband comes .. she ask him to leave first, and he goes "why would i leave,  I love interviews"  (writer-niiiiiiiiiim .. just stop playing with my heart already)

Yessss.... that what i'm trying to say T.T, she said that her husband doesn't like doing interviews so i think it will be Taek but then the husband said he like doing interviews plus he wearing Airforce Jacket, igeeeee boyaaaaaahhhhhh......... and the last scene is disturb me so much, LOL Deoksun keep look at the door when Junghwan confess to her T.T and why in the world the adult husband act like Taek in ep 18, i'm going crazy from curiousity

so conclusion hint from PD in ep 18 :

Someone who might doesnt like doing an interview but actually like it, and act timid like taek but wearing airforce jacket which is probably Junghwan jacket ? Molaaaaa i'm going crazy

 

 

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[conanblue32]

Hi everyone! I wrote a pre-finale post about the couples in the series on my blog. I hope you can check it out!

Pre-Finale Reply 1988 Thoughts

 

For a while I was contemplating on whether or not I should make a pre-finale post for Reply 1988 but after watching the penultimate week of episodes, I knew I needed to make it. I wrote one for the previous Reply series which was 2 years (!) ago, so might as well make one for this one. Let's make it a tradition. Since the pre-finale posts are supposed to be about who will end up with whom, we're sticking strictly on ships for this one. A review will come when time is due.

 

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[lyonesse]

errrr.. i think that airforce jacket thingy is already solved isnt it? It's just a symbol of a brand called Parajumpers. And everyone can buy it, so i guess this clue is invalid

[mellinadear]

@Niel2804 that is not an air force jacket. Its a clothing brand emblem for a brand called parajumpers. 

[Niel2804]

@lyonesse @mellinadear

Aaaah cincaaa ? i'm not visiting this thread for a loooong time LOL i'm just visited this thread after the episode out with eng sub, and i'm to lazy to back read, thank you for inform meeeehhhhh.....

i like to read people discuss about hint, let's headache together kkkkkk XD

[bluesteyes]

And btw IMO future husband just put an act when he said he likes interview. Defend his pride in front of the crew maybe? Cos he went home immediately after DS said its fine you can go lol

[misshoggy]

5 hours ago, misshoggy said:

It's Byun Jin Sup's Come to me again.

Would you come back to me again?
You wandered away, not knowing that I love you.
Although we’re not in the same space in the beginning,
as winter's gone, you can just come to me in spring.

 

It was a long night, thinking about the time we separated
My heart has been pacing towards you,
Why did I hesitate so?
Please don’t turn back and look,
even though we’ve had more days together than apart.

 

Would you come back to me again?
You wandered, not knowing that I love you.
Although we’re not in the same space in the beginning,
as winter's gone, you can just come to me in spring.

 

Sorry, had a mistranslation!!

Edit on the last verse: 

Would you come back to me again?
You can come to me now, just as you are.

Thought it was important to point out the desperation in the song.

[Naila Taher]

Not gonna lie the last episode of reply 1998 totally ruined my Saturday. Honestly the pace of this drama was way too slow for my liking. Can't help but compare it to cheese in the trap. I don't even care about the ships or who she ends up with. My main concern and beef with the writer is why did she turn JungHwan into such a pathetic character is beyond me. I feel like the developments that are happening now should have happened way earlier in the series it's too late for joke confessions and beating around the bush. IMO it seems that Deoksun will date Taek while JungHwan dates other girls and than she will come to the realization that Taek is just a younger brother to her and the one who she really likes is JungHwan. With another timeskip to 1997. It would make sense because ep 18 was titled Goodbye my first love. JungHwan would have to get over Deoksun before he could date other girls. Before he finally realizes that he was never over her in the first place.

The way the story has progressed thus far it can be assumed that  writer always wanted Deoksun to end up with JungHwan if it suddenly changes to Taek that's a last minute script change. The reply writer always starts the dramas out great but she crashes and burns at the end getting swayed by public opinion and viewers. I really wish that reply like cheese was pre produced. That way the story would not get compromised because of public opinion.

 

[lovelyrainy]

Episode 19 preview, some kind souls please translate

 

19화. 당신은 최선을 다했다

쉬는 날 없이 계속되는 야근으로 힘들어하는 동일. 
이런 모습에 일화는 안쓰럽기만 하다.

선우는 다시 만나보면 어떻겠냐는 보라에게 세 가지 조건을 제시하고, 보라는 당혹스러워한다.

한편, 택은 정환을 만나기 위해 정환이 근무하는 사천으로 내려가는데...

 

[Cappadocia]

the one thing that I'm curious about is who is the guy that occupy deoksun's heart right now (in 1994) ?

(not considering ep 17, because that was 4/5 year ago). 

I'm trying to read her face and body languange when both guys are there with her. I see differents treatment for both guys.

The one that I'm curious about is the one where they are bringing drunken dr to his house.

When she is about to fall, both jh and taek hold her arms to prevent her from falling,

With taek she pull her hand slowly, but with junghwan she just yank her hand. Is he hating junghwan ? Were they fighting ?

Any Input ??? 

 

 

[snowglobe147]

19화. 당신은 최선을 다했다

쉬는 날 없이 계속되는 야근으로 힘들어하는 동일. 
이런 모습에 일화는 안쓰럽기만 하다. 

선우는 다시 만나보면 어떻겠냐는 보라에게 세 가지 조건을 제시하고, 보라는 당혹스러워한다.

한편, 택은 정환을 만나기 위해 정환이 근무하는 사천으로 내려가는데...

 

Translation: 

Episode 19. You Did Your Best

With having to do night shifts daily, Dong-il appa is exhausted. Seeing him like this only makes Il-Hwa umma feel bad for him.

Bora suggests to Sunwoo that they try dating again, and Sunwoo comes up with three conditions, at which Bora feels perplexed.

On the other hand, in order to meet up with Junghwan, Taek has to go over to 사천 (Sacheon, a city in South Korea), where he serves in the air force...

 

[packmule3]

On the uses of humor.

To parody Jane Austen: It’s a truth universally acknowledged that any woman in poverty of a good wit MUST also be in want of a genius.

Fortunately, for fellow script-shippers, the writer of Reply 1988 has been endowed with a brilliant mind with an eye for the absurd. For me, humor is the most sublime form of intelligence. But the scriptwriter is handicapped by the simple fact that a MAJORITY of her audience will NOT get her humor 100% of the time. Understanding her “inside jokes,” in particular, can be very challenging.  Like the “wedding parodies” that I mentioned before, an inside joke implies a shared knowledge between two parties to which a third party is oblivious. But everything will be clear when the show ends and we do a rewatch.  

So let me point out some of the inside jokes as I see them. 

1. "Star" Meta-joke:  In Episode 1, when the grown-ups were waiting for Taek Choi to arrive at his celebration party, DS’ mom said “The star of the show always shows up last”. True that. Many people realized too late that the Death Star -- or TaecStar – had been fully functional for a long while. They were caught off-guard because they weren’t paying attention to the script.

2. Story-within-the-story joke. While people were focused on dog/cat/mouse/bullfrog, the titles of the books mentioned in Episode 2 were largely ignored. They are meta. This is proof that the scriptwriter KNEW EXACTLY how this story would end even from the beginning. Nothing is random with her. 

--“Officer and the Princess” for JH. He turned out to be at officer in the Air Force. The drivel about the hero’s chiseled chest is a reference to JH’s chest. It was much ado about nothing.  

--“Audition for Love” is for DR. DR loved DS, too, in his own way. His hair-tugging is a classic sign of a guy wanting a girl’s attention. Also, he was the one who brought up the topic of DS being cute. In Episode 14, when he said “How annoying [that DS liked TK more]! Do you hate me?” I thought then that he was indirectly asking about his “chances”.  

However, he’s learned to love her VICARIOUSLY, that is, he experienced “his” romance THROUGH Taec’s experience. He only “auditioned” for the show (literally, too); he wasn’t the STAR. DS called the book “weak” and and it was only about kissing, which could be taken a joke about DR’s porn obsession. 

--“Dangerous Roommate” is obviously for TK.  This was the book that DS hugged and begged to include sexy passages. lol. [credit: Dramabeans for book title]

The only person without a book is SW because he was already in love with her sister.

3. Meta joke on JH. In Episode 10, JH walked into the wall. Here is how Dramabeans described it:

 They head down the stairs and stop in their tracks when Jung-hwan comes out of her house looking awkward. He stammers that he had something to say to her, and pulls her aside for a chat. On the way up, he kind of gets trapped under the awning and can’t extract himself without looking uncool. It’s so awkward. I love it.

I agree, that was cute. However, it was actually a foreshadowing. He was walking into a *dead-end*. He’d be blocked. 

4. Another meta joke on JH. In Episode 16, JH was working on a math problem. Here’s how Dramabeans described it:

Dong-ryong is the only one who notices that Jung-hwan has been working on the same math problem for days now. He tells Jung-hwan to just move on already, but we know it’s not math that’s got him stumped.

This is a foreshadowing, too. DR’s advice to him was: “Don’t you know the concept of “passing”? Just move on.” Take into consideration JH’s prophecy in Episode 11 that “he’ll be fine on his own”, and his words in Episode 18 to “move on”, he wasn't a doomed and pathetic as Chilbongie was in Reply 1994. He was making a conscious decision to let go, and if he were an actual person, and not a figment of the scriptwriter’s imagination, I’d respect and support his choice. 

5. DR’s trolls on DS: In Episode 14, DR and DS were talking on the steps. DS asked: “Why doesn’t anyone like me?” DR pretended to see somebody from a distance, going, “Oh! It’s Taek!” Look at how eager DS looked up to find TK.  That was a troll for both DS and the viewers as well who got a pretty good view of DS’ excited and expectant face.  

Shortly, they met up with TK. Here’s how Dramabeans described it:

…when Taek says he bought five pies so that they could each take one home, Dong-ryong says lovingly, “Let’s get married.” Taek turns him down, poor thing, but he holds Deok-sun back and asks her to come over for a little while.

This is a foreshadowing, too. TK rejected DR, but he grabbed hold of his choice of bride.

6. The pot meta joke. As my local newspaper The Washington Post says, “If you don’t get it, you don’t get it.” 

7. “Just kidding” joke. I believe that there’s a bit of truth behind every “just kidding” jokes. When DS ordered TK to “Take it off” and shocked him, I think, she was deliberately being provocative. Her deadpan delivery was meant to confuse him. 

8. Another confusing “Just kidding” joke. In Episode 2, when DS teased TK about marrying her, she also confused him. Most people saw that as “babying” but the alternative view here is “flirting."  

Finding an excuse for skinship, like touching a guy in a nonthreatening way, and getting his full attention by smiling widely at him are considered Flirtation 101.

Also, notice her change of focus here. With the first two guys, she was asking them about her APPEARANCE.  “How do I look?” It was about “Me” and she expected compliments. That’s why JH dismissed her with “I’m late. Pishs off!  With TK, however, she shifted the focus TO HIM:  When did YOU get back from the tournament. [You] drink up. [You] hurry up and grow tall. So YOU can marry me.

See that? The dynamics are different even back then. 

9. A revealing “Just kidding” joke. In Episode 6, DS’ mom teased her about wanting TK as son-in-law, repeating her old joke from Episode 2.  What was DS’ answer? She asked, "Should I seduce him then?" Lol. People who insist that DS treats TK as a brother don’t get this.  "Seduction" is NOT a word or an idea that enters a girl's mind who regards her childhood friend as a mere baby brother. Heck no! DS had read those trashy novels in Episode 2, she knew of porn that the guys watched, and she knew very well what SEDUCTION meant. ~~Dangerous Roommate, please give me lots of sexy scenes ~~~

When she joked about seducing TK, it meant she saw him as a man, not as a kid brother. Her joke also paralleled TK’s words to his friends: I don't think of her as a friend. I see her as a WOMAN. The difference however is in the delivery, TK said it resolutely, firmly, whereas DS said it jokingly.

Noteworthy, too: DS became defensive when DS’ mom said that TK was into baduk anyway and he really wasn't into girls [meaning he led as ascetic life, not that he was gay.] She whined “Why what's wrong with me?!!”  

That was an odd response from a girl who only saw a guy as a younger brother or a friend. Her response should have been to laugh it off and to not take personally. Compare DS’ sensitive reaction to SW’s mom's response when she teased about marrying TK’s dad. Her answer was the natural one. She laughed away their teasing and said: all thing being equal, she’d rather not marry a bear. It’d be just the same as marrying NO ONE.  That was the proper response DS should have given: a joke. 

10. “Just kidding” as a blunder. This playful banter about “Marrying Taec/Taking Responsibility” showed how joking can escalate into misunderstandings. At first, DS took the joking in stride, even exchanging some jokes of her own. She was feisty when DR said to TK needed a girl just like her to introduce him to hardship.

SHE was fine. However, I believe her mood changed when SW turned to tease TK and asked him, “Hey! Do you like her, too? Because you’re grinning there” and an embarrassed TK tried to cover up his smiles by saying “annii”.

If people noticed, the camera didn’t show us DS’ reaction to TK’s denial here. But the next thing we knew, she was excusing herself to go to the bathroom. People assumed that she was upset with DR who was mercilessly teasing her. But I believe that she was upset of TK’s ONE WORD. She misunderstood him. She thought his “no” = I don’t like her, when actually "no" meant he was embarrassed being put in the spotlight. 

DS' reaction here was normal. To a girl like her, after spending the whole day frolicking on the beach together and after spending time with him in China just a few days ago, his joking denial would be equal to a personal insult for her. It's "What the --?"

This would explain why in the next episode, when they met up again and TK requested for coffee, water and warm water, she totally misread his “running errands” joke [he really wanted her to stay for a while with him and not leave] and accused him of USING her like a slave girl, like they were back in China. She beat him up. 

11. Absence of marriage jokes in connection with JH. For me, this was a giveaway that he wasn’t meant to be the OTP. Sure, DS’ girlfriends teased her about going out on a date with him, but her girlfriends’ judgment is impaired. None of DS’ family members saw JH as a possible contender. Considering how close these two families were and how JH’s dad doted on DS, the parents didn’t consider forming an obvious "alliance" between JH and DS. Also, in Episode 11, Bora indicated surprise that DS and JH have become closer. When DS replied that they’ve always been close, Bora just made a face.  

Spoiler

Even NE questioned JH's Christmas gift. JH had to kick and chase him down the stairs so he’d give the present to DS,

Noteworthy: The Future Husband said that it took him 10 years before he could address NE informally. Taek’s natural diffidence and inhibition would indeed make it hard for him to treat NE like a kid brother. He wouldn't kick or be impatient with NE even when NE is acting like a big, overgrown baby.  

12. Jwi gag. This scene with JH also warned me too that I might be wrong with my assumptions that JH is the OTP. Yes, he might be the leading man, but the scriptwriter might have other plans for him.  

You see, compared to the jwi incident with TK and DR, this did NOT at all advance his case as the Future Husband. It did not link his personality trait to him. What happened here was he had cramps, DS teased him. He told her to stop it; she didn’t. They both laughed. Fade-away shot.

In comparison, with TK’s jwi incident, DS chased after him and DR with the mice. They boys escaped by going back inside. Then, DR grabbed ahold of TK and told him to reconsider his affection for DS. Meaning, if he chose DS, he’d be consigned to a life of “torture”. TK reaffirmed his view that she’s cute. How does this connect with the Future Husband? Two ways: The Future Husband told the grown-up DS to be kind to him because he’s been understanding and tolerant of her. Where could he find a husband like him, he asked. Also, the Future Husband thought she was cute. 

13. Baduk vs Chinese checkers meta joke. In Episode 1, we see JH’s mother move a green piece on his checker board, and people naturally pounced on that and determined that green was JH was color. No. That isn’t the point there, unfortunately. 

The point here is comparison and contrast between Baduk and Chinese checkers. Both boys have these two different board games beside their beds. Baduk = TK and Chinese checkers = JH.  As a game of theory and strategy, Chinese checkers is grossly outmatched by Baduk.  Chinese checkers isn’t even Asian in origin. It’s a German-invented game.

Why would the scriptwriter choose such a simplistic game to represent the first lead?  [If it were chess, then yes, I’d consider it an even match because I play chess, @shooastrid Ha!]  Why would the director make the baduk world so integral to plot, showing us news reports, educating us on its etiquette, timing and scheduling of their encounters around Baduk, if the Chinese checkers guy was going to win the girl at the end? It doesn’t make sense; it’s absurd.

14. The future NoEul joke.  One style of this scriptwriter/director combo is to loop a conversation through time. It was splendidly done In Reply 1994. In that show, the audience see the heroine NJ cleaning up her house. She was looking for beloved stuffed toy. Her Trash Oppa interrupted her housecleaning to tell her that a package was coming and to leave it in his room. Later on, she discovered that he had bought a replacement for the stuffed toy that she had lost. Now, the audience is transported to the current time and they see NJ being asked to pick up a package at the concierge downstairs. It was for her “mystery” husband. 

Now, in this Reply 1988, the same thing happened. There was a loop in the conversation, a time-travel.

In Episode 14, when TK brought a banana to DS’ house and NE joined them, the noona and dongaeng shared a conversation:
DS: How is it possible that you're getting older than our dad?
NE: It's okay. A face like mine becomes younger later on.
TK said nothing but he smiled at DS as she wiped her brother’s dry skin. 

Fastforward to the future, in Episode 8, when NE visits DS and her husband, this topic of aging is echoed: 
DS: How is that you look younger by the day? [addressing NE]
HUSBAND/TK: [defending NE] He finally looks his age, that's all. It took me ten years to speak informally to this punk.

Spoiler

See the connection? Of all the guys, TK was the only one who knew of NE’s joke about his age, because he was there when they had a conversation that his face would sooner or later catch up to his age.

There’s also the ginseng. lol. The Future NoEul passed by their apartment because DS was giving him ginseng. Back in 1989, DS shared a banana with him, given by TK. What’s the connection? Ginseng is expensive, and older people value it because of its anti-aging properties. Bananas was expensive, too, at that time. But they were reserved for children like Jinjjo and NoEul because they were nutritious.  

I didn’t invent these details. They were written by the scriptwriter. 

15. Last, the chocolate PARODY. This was in Episode 16.

Like in the Wedding Parody, there were two things occuring at once. On the surface, we see DS and DR talking on the bus about how competitive TK was. But there was another story unfolding surreptitiously here.  DR said that TK won because he was competitive; he didn’t like to be number 2. Just like Jong Bung.
 

Spoiler

This is the answer to the chocolate mystery. “Kim Jong Bung and Choi Tae. Something famous linked these two.” 

As DR narrated the events of the Galaga video game rivalry to DS, the incidental things that occurred during that fateful day were presented in front of our eyes. First there was the chocolate. 
 

Spoiler

Then, the 3 backpacks. 

 

Spoiler

Then, the hotdog. 
 

Spoiler

Finally, there was the jacket. [note to self: his left hand finger dexterity was also fine.]

Spoiler

You see what was going on here? The scriptwriter and director made an inside joke, thinking that a third party like us wouldn't observe it. #wesawwhatyoudidthere #lol

JB and TK were infamously linked in time not only because of the Galaga game but also because of the Ghana chocolate. DS did intend to give the chocolate to TK but the chocolate ended up with JB. That was how he learned to write a love letter to Mi-Ok using the chocolate. JB’s motive for getting the chocolate was implied: he lost to TK.

That’s why none of the boys here, in Episode 17, even did a double-take at the sight of the chocolate. They’ve never received a chocolate from DS. 
 

Spoiler

Now, people asked me how could have DS confused SW’s jacket as belonging to TK? Or why didn’t DS stop and get TK’s jacket on their way out? 

The answer there is “I DON’T KNOW”. lol. Really.Literally.

If you go back to Episode 1, the Adult DS already laid the foundation for her defense. She was going to excuse her mental lapse regarding the chocolate by pleading diminished capacity. She had inhaled the most carbon monoxide so she was poisoned and couldn’t think properly. “Diminished Capacity” lol.  

To repeat my Jane Austen parody: It’s a truth universally acknowledged that any woman in poverty of a good wit MUST also be in want of a genius.

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For @ororomunroe, thank you. 

[Guest nchoerunnisa]

Me, when I open this main thread...


-----

Papa Bear: "BTW, Sun Young."
SW's Omma: "Yes?"
Papa Bear: "Since it's cold and all should we just live together already?"
SW's Omma: ""

Kyaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaak

I drop by just to say that. Please, continue your discussion guys. Have a nice day

[eungaejungpal]

Preview 19 is out sobs i need subs

 

 

[xinabu_1]

Let's just say I started this Reply series for Park Bo Gum (I'm gonna marathon the other 2 Replies soon :D) and so I hope DS will end up with Taek.

But I wanted to cry with JH every time he cried, wanted to hit him, screamed at him every time he chickened out and did not do anything.

It's so so sad but it's so true that it is not because of fate, or timing, or any red light. It's because of his hesitation all along. I would cry like he did too if I missed out like that.

But I still prefer Taek, nothing to argue about real life who will be the better husband. I just love Taek character in the drama. That's it and that's all. Love or like needs no logical or reasonable base

[Boranoona]

What's with all the *putting down one's character* just to make ur bias shine? Wtf is this !!! Everyone should stop fighting!!! All the characters in reply have flaws, nobody is a knight in shining armour or mr. Perfect !!! And none of you are deoksun, let her decide who she likes !!! If u think the person u are shipping deoksun with is better for her, state his better qualities, not the other person's flaws !!! 

And abt junghwan calling deoksun ugly, deoksun calls him a dog too! So? It's not like only junghwan insults her and deoksun silently endures, it's mutual.Then why do u think junghwan fell in love with deoksun??! He could also be like * oh she calls me a dog, i shouldn't fall in love with her * this sort of stuff is completely normal in a bickering relationship, both parties like teasing each other.Taek too has some really good qualities! Nobody is bad and undeserving.The end result only lies in deoksun's hand! If u love the reply series, u should love all the characters

[Howlol]

I am quite excited about Mi Ran menopause part. 

[Intimate]

Scene with ds looking angry at taek and sw looks interesting. Can't imagine what that's about.

[blue_angel_1004]

10 hours ago, eungaejungpal said:

Preview 19 is out sobs i need subs

 

 

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Miran: I feel hot all of a sudden.

Miran: I may just run away.

JH: Mom, are you okay?

Miran: I'm fine.

Miran: Our Il Hwa is amazing.

Miran: She's hanging on really well.

Il Hwa: Is something wrong?

Dong Il: I'm sorry.

Il Hwa: Why would you be sorry?

TK: Jung Hwan.

TK: You had asked me before if I had opened your wallet.

 

DR: Hey! Why was I the only one not to know this?

DR: You guys are too much!

DS: We're just friends. Childhood friends, at that.

DS: We've known each other for almost twenty years.

Woman: Then why aren't [you] two dating?

DS: Huh?

DS: We're friends.

Don't quote pictures, gifs, videos

 

[blue_angel_1004]

Text Preview for Episode 19: "You did your best"

Dong Il has a hard time working late everyday without rest. Il Hwa feels sorry seeing him like this.

At Bora's suggestion that they date again, Sunwoo makes three conditions, flustering Bora.

Meanwhile, Taek goes down to Sacheon to meet Junghwan at where he is posted for duty...