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Twitter & Instagram world went a little chaotic today because of PJS's interview! Including myself hahah

I read many takes & inputs on this but was unable to decipher myself. Wondering if anyone has any opinion on this? Please do share! 

Just wanna share my humble thoughts to the sunbaenims in this forum though im equally confused : 

1) Sora is an actress & she's equally busy so she will definitely understand PJS busy schedule. 

2) Sora is not the kind of person who is not understanding, this has been proven during their stint in wgm on how much care she gave PJS & how understanding she is when it comes to him. 

3) If let's say that actress is not Sora, than question is why did he see another girl if he claims that during wgm he is in love with Sora ? Does it make sense to date another girl while loving someone else ? No. 

4) But if let's say Sora is that actress & they did break up, than what's with all the connections/links/hints he made during these past years on SNS ? The strongest & most evident of them all is 2016 he posted a pic of their wedding photoshoot & probably the next strongest is the fact he sang songs that are directly related to Sora during SS6. Before all these, he was vocal about Sora in his interviews etc & same goes for Sora. 

In my opinion, most ex couples wouldn't want to be involved with each other anymore after a break up (there's a saying that goes you can't stay friends with someone you love or loved before). Im not saying it applies to everyone but at least most people. Especially for PJS, I've read somewhere that he has a habit of unfollowing people once the project is over. Oh really so why did he follow Sora & why is he still following her then if they did "broke up"?

5) Just recently, the couple bag made its appearance. He's rich & im sure he's got lots of bag but why choose that? Im not in any position to comment on this definitely. 

Put aside my confusion to this issue, I'm certain that teukso holds a special place in each others heart. Because this lady was there for him when he was at his lowest point of his life. This exact same lady whom he fell in love with & who was there to support him throughout his military. Whether or not they're meant for each other, it's not up to us to decide. Whether or not the interview is the truth from him, it's also not up to us to decide. Let's continue believing that our ship is sailing & today we had a little thunderstorm that passed by but we're all still alive! Hahaha

sorry for the Long post 

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It has been a long time I was not posting here but since this thread allows a long post this will be better for me to express my thoughts and feelings on the last interview of Teuk which was posted in allkpop.

Allkpop article :  As in any interview session, the topic of dating came up. When asked if he'd dated before, Leeteuk answered, "Right before I went into the army, I dated for about a month. She was an actress. But we parted after the short month. She didn't understand my busy schedule, because I was working on Super Junior's album promotions and concerts. Right now I'm looking for the right person." 

--> Honestly if this answer was true it was too contradicting on what happen before before he enlist and while he was in the army. When he mentioned it was an actress I definitely believe it was Sora but breaking up before he enlisted that is not true but if you picture the stint they have in WGM it totally fits on what he said because they resume filming in June and had to say good bye in August and that was really a short month as a virtual couple but as a real couple definitely it was not true.

If you are an old teukso shipper you will know why Teuk answer does not fit on the reality, Let's say he did broke up with her before he enlisted ..how will it be possible that this kind of incidents happened after that.

1st After he does his 5 weeks training he got a chance to call his loved one and one of them was Sora. She confirms that Teuk calls her every now and then in December 2012

2nd. Teuk and Sora had Kakao talk conversations

3rd  Teuk came and left Kona Beans on February 18 2013 which is Kang Sora Birthday that time, he was outside of the army camp. Is it coincidence

4th Kang Sora watch Teuk musical on February 21 2013 according to her, she got an invitation no pictures came out from elf

5th Every time Sora changed her DP on twitter Teuk will follow or it will be the other way around

After the concert in Thailand Teuk immediately went to Busan to attend the festival and that time Kang Sora was there too although he was not an actor still he came and he even tweeted indirectly a cheering tweet since Sora has a wardrobe malfunction on the same event.

6th Kang Sora came on Teuk's father funeral as soon as the news broke out

7th After Teuk came out from the army he started Instagram and after a few days Sora opens up her Instagram as well

He even play the song ONLY U in SUKIRA which he choose while the other members are present

Whenever Teuk answer about dating he is always giving a wrong information

If you notice Teuk post on IG you can see his pictures are taken from 2012, what is special on 2012?

If that was a heartbreak he could have not dwell on the memories of that year but here he comes posting his picture with her on IG ( wedding pictures) mentioned to Chansung that he fell in love while filming WGM which is a hint right now for me after he said that he dated an actress and the couple bag that he wears that is very old already 

If that was a break up then I may say he still can;t move on with her... Teuk is totally in love with her that he can't move on and even wrote a song of ONLY U for her now that he said he was in a relationship during those time Sora could have been his inspiration for the song. Did WGM knows that they are dating since they play his song on the end of the episode while Sora was carrying her stuff going out of the apartment. That time ONLY U is not even part of the album instead it was icluded only on the repackaged 

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Sora posted this after Teuk accident

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@Shiks Asmin & @shymaldita28  I think  "this actress" isn't Kang Sora, of  course !  I think "this woman" is the same person whose he spoke in the interviews (2012 & 2014, 2015) : the person who told him -he was crazy after he asked her "waiting me" before his enlistment . If I'm not  mistaken many elf said when 2011 he broke up with his girlfriend (their ideas were done because his tweets were sad) maybe in may (before the episode of Strong Heart with Kang Sora in june)

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@Shiks Asmin & @shymaldita28  I think  "this actress" isn't Kang Sora, of  course !  I think "this woman" is the same person whose he spoke in the interviews (2012 & 2014, 2015) : the person who told him -he was crazy after he asked her "waiting me" before his enlistment . If I'm not  mistaken many elf said when 2011 he broke up with his girlfriend (their ideas were done because his tweets were sad) maybe in may (before the episode of Strong Heart with Kang Sora in june)

 

It'll be quite sad to think that woman isn't Kang Sora because that means he had two ladies in mind at the same time. :( Because the period of time between the end of wgm & his enlistment wasn't too long only a few months different. My humble opinion is he was really deemed on finding a Girlfriend before enlistment so he was really going all out with an open mind to date. this time it happen to be the girl who guested in Strong heart (Oh In Hye if I'm not wrong her name) whom he had tea with in his car. Because no matter how i think about it, if he was dating Sora than why must he ask another girl to have tea with him in his car?

 

All this is of course IF what he said in the interview is true. Because like what some fans mentioned, he is known for over reacting on his words. His interview might also be a lie for all we know. I saw a tweet this morning on Twitter underlining the main points of Sora's recent interview like how she mentioned about dating/being in a relationship (the interview in pink fonts). Their response kind of contradict each other. 

 

So Glad there are FDs (especially older shippers who know more than new shippers) whom I can share all this with, it's really confusing this time! Right after the couple bag on his return to Papua New Guinea, now this :( 

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@Shiks Asmin  I think many fans did an error when they read "before I went into army..." these fans think september - october 2012 or the year 2012 but he doesn't give the date. I think he talks the album in 2011 with Mr Simple, A-CHA...  and I think he had a girlfriend in the first half of the year 2011. It's just my opinion.  

In 2016 LT said to a member of 2 PM : he was in love in WGM I think  it wasn't a lie...

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XP Star Talk = Reporter Kim Kyung Min

Super Junior, the backbone of all idol groups whom debuted 11 years ago, actually already has a special place in SM Entertainment. Them who went through the uncertainty of whether they could debut successfully, is now a representative of K-POP, and is prospering with many activities.

And within this group, Leeteuk is again a very special existence. He overturned people’s stereotypes about idols, and kept appearing on TV for a long time as someone who does broadcast.

I’ve known Leeteuk for 10 years. Back in my early twenties, it was my first time being assigned as a reporter for one of the year end music shows, and in a certain broadcasting station’s studio, there was Leeteuk, Kangin, Shindong and Kim Heechul, who were all shouting, “Hello hyung”.

A rookie group like that has now walked till their mid-thirties.

The last time I met Leeteuk before he enlisted, I told him, “let’s do another interview within the next 5 years”. I thought this agreement will just float by like a cloud, but it came true.

The 2 hours I spent talking to the 34 years old normal person Park Jungsoo, who has debuted for 11 years, was incredibly enjoyable. I saw his true heart and his life as an artiste, and also his passion for life. Although I didn’t write the transcript for the interview in formal language, throughout the entire interview, Leeteuk very politely used formal language to tell me his thoughts.

Canada rock star Bryan Adams said that he thinks the best album name is <So Far So Good>, so he released an album with this name. As for Leeteuk, I would say that he too, is “So Far So Good”.

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Your enlistment period was really tough. Everyone could understand that it was very hard for you.

Teuk: To be honest, it was really hard. Although there are some things that I can’t say, but I feel that all the things that happened in the past is an experience for me now. Now, I can feel the value of every single day, and I thought a lot about death. I will think, “it’s possible for the people around me to suddenly disappear”. The reason why I work harder everyday is probably because I started thinking of that. Even though I want to treat my mother better, it is not something that I can do very well from the start. But recently, I will ask my mother “how are you?” first. In the past I was always chasing after success, I wanted progress, but now I’ve started to care for the people around me.

-You have changed quite a bit as a person.

Teuk: Perhaps I have become more relaxed? Although right now I will still observe the viewer rates on the second day after recording a programme, but I was more sensitive in the past. All I thought of was that the programmes I did must have high viewer rates. But recently what I enjoy more is that I can interact with other people when recording shows. In the past I’m more of the kind who hides myself, but after army there was once I went to the convenience store on the way home with our manager after a day of schedules to eat the snacks that were memorable to us. It was about 3 to 4am, there wasn’t many people. At that time I told our manager, “hyung, don’t you think previously I led a life whereby I’m always avoiding people? Is this happiness?” That night we also went to other places and ate ddeokbokki, and continued to look for our happiness.

-Let’s first not talk about Super Junior. Is MC Leeteuk doing well?

Teuk: The main thing I do now is MC. But my disadvantage is that I didn’t experience what a normal man would experience in his twenties and thirties. Especially because I’m an idol, I know very well that it’s hard for me to gain the liking and recognition from male viewers. I feel that the only way to make others feel that (I’m) relatable is to have a lot of experience. To accumulate all these experiences, I want to interact with more people.

-Experience? Doing schedules as an idol for 11 years is not easy right?

Teuk: Of course it’s not easy. But what’s harder is to get the public’s recognition. Although idols can rise fast, (we) are not recognised in terms of our depth. Of course, it is something I have to continue work hard about too.

-You have already debuted for 11 years, I’m curious, why did you choose variety?

Teuk: Actually when we first debuted, I didn’t think that I would do variety. When we first started, I liked to play the keyboard and write music, but about 2 months after debut, our manager asked me, “what is your other dream?”. I replied, “I don’t know about other things, I just want to be able to fill my stomach and earn a living”, and our manager then suggested me to do variety. Just like that, the both of us started to go to the different broadcasting stations to greet others, we even said if the group (SJ) doesn’t do well, our manager will go on (the show) instead. (laughs) When we first debuted, we carried the name ‘SJ’ together and went around promoting ourselves. I would always say “Hello, I’m leader Leeteuk”, and suddenly one day our manager gave me a list of variety shows and said, “these are all the variety shows that are showing now, if you were the manager, which show would you pick?” In that list, there was ‘X-MAN’, “Love Letter” etc, and in the end I chose them. But manager hyung showed me the viewer rates for each show and taught me, “you should go on ‘1000 Song Challenge’ or ‘Sponge’ since they have an average viewer rate of about 20%. Only through that will you be able to not only attract teenagers, but also people in their thirties~fourties.”

-I thought you went through variety lessons, but after hearing to what you said, it feels like you went through manager lessons instead.

Teuk: (laughs) At that time, Siwon and Heechul went on X-MAN, Shindong and I were at most just helpers. After that, I went onto MBC’s Star Words. Starting from that show, I went to take part in other shows like ‘1000 Song Challenge’. Just when I began gathering experiences, I joined Star King, and this programme became the turning point of my life.

-Is it because you got to know Kang Hodong?

Teuk: It’s like this. Kang Hodong-hyung was like an active volcano at that time, even though Eunhyuk and I were fixed guests, we were afraid of him since the very beginning. So there was a period of time we worked extremely hard, and one day Hodong-hyung came to our waiting room himself to give us guidance and taught us. We still remember this line that Hodong-hyung said: “Take care of your family. You not only have to take care of your own family, the people around you are also family.” Later on, Hodong-hyung left Star King for personal reasons, and after that, I enlisted too. But what I didn’t think would happen was that one day before I enlisted, Hodong-hyung asked me if I wanted to make my comeback through Star King. Actually the production team asked me if I would like to come onto the show but the company rejected it, but I didn’t expect Hodong-hyung to request for me to go onto the show himself, so I appeared on Star King the day before I enlisted. (laughs) After recording ended, when I was packing my belongings at home, Hodong-hyung called. I told him, “I will do well in army and come back well”, I was surprised that in the end hyung cried. That was a first.

-Leeteuk is the first for Idol MCs. Is there any secret?

Teuk: I am unable to emcee as short and sweetly as a news broadcaster, I’m also unable to be as humorous as a gagman. Even though it’s a bit embarrassing to say this, I think it’s because I worked hard? I would watch the replay of my programmes at home everyday, people always ask, “how do you practice being an MC?” For me, I watch myself a lot. Shows with Leeteuk in them are the most interesting. (laughs) I don’t only watch once, I will watch 3~4 times. I will think, “saying that line at that time was not bad”, just like this, I will reflect on what I did well and did badly. I will also look at my hair style and outfit. Like in “I Can See Your Voice”, because I am given quite a bit of screen time, I will discuss the show with the producers and share my opinions. I also study the other MCs around me, like Kim Sung Joo MC, he speaks differently when he emcees different shows. His tone is different in <Please Take Care of My Fridge> and <King of Mask Singer>, sometimes I will learn from him. From Yoo Jaesuk I learn about posture. It’s not easy to stand straight on both legs but he perseveres and stands like that throughout.

-After doing it for 11 years, how does it feel? I’ve heard that a lot of idols don’t like going on variety shows.

Teuk: About 7.8 in 10 idols don’t like going on variety shows. When you’re a rookie you would want to go, but after 2-3 years you will become the senior or a variety person. But at that time, I felt that I should continue, because at that time, our popularity was not going up but going down, it felt like if I don’t do anything about it, I won’t be able to be an artiste any more, one has to know what is ‘desperation’. Gaining popularity is not about being famous alone, it’s only when your group is popular will you then be famous, it’s something I wish everyone understands. Whenever a production team says “the limit to the number of years you/your group will last is coming, maybe you should stop appearing (on shows)”, I will forget it instantly. I still want to compete with the kids who just debut. As compared to being a legend, I still don’t want to retire to quickly. Giving people the impression of “he used to be great” is something I don’t want yet.

-Don’t you want to rest?

Teuk: Actually before enlistment, I even cried because I didn’t have schedule, I was really a little too much of a workaholic. Up till now, I still feel that recording shows is a very interesting thing. When recording, my legs will ache and when night comes my eyes will sting, but at the same time I can feel the kindness from people. It is not something that one can feel just by doing well in his work or being great at playing chess. When I see the audience and my partner laughing, when I hear the staff say things like ‘you did exceptionally well’, it all becomes my strength and my reason to live.

-Do you still dream of being the second Yoo Jaesuk or Kang Hodong?

Teuk: I had that kind of ambition before, but now I just want to be able to do variety for a long time. But I do want to do a “Leeteuk Show”. I used to think that being No.1 is just purely being No.1, but now I understand that the best is to be able to walk a long way.

-What is Leeteuk’s ranking now?

Teuk: I would say about 10.

-I heard that you will read articles about yourself. Is that true?

Teuk: Yes. I will search for articles with the words “Super Junior” and “Leeteuk”. The reason is because I heard that clicking on the news articles on the website is a great help to the reporter, so I started to open every article and press ‘like’ after skimming through it, sometimes I will post comments too. (laughs) It feels like if from the beginning the replies are all positive, all the comments will turn out to be good , so I give comments, wanting it to have a good start. You ask if it’s tiring? I even got hurt (laughs)

-Even so, I feel that after you’re back from army, you’re receiving a lot more positive comments.

Teuk: It’s not that, the main reason is because there are a lot of girl group scandals. *what he means is that because there’s a lot of scandals so the attention is all on them and not him*

-Since we mentioned this topic, I would like to ask, don’t you get into relationships?

Teuk: Actually about a month after I came back from the army, I had a girlfriend, she’s an actress. But after being together for about 1 month, we broke up. I had to release an album and had to go all over the place for concerts, and she couldn’t understand, now I’m still looking (for a girl). Recently I’ve been thinking about exactly what kind of girl do I have to meet to think about marriage, if you ask me when I’m going to get married, my answer would be for sure not now. They say now it’s the ‘hundred generation’, so the age to get married is slowly moving to 43~45 years old, don’t I still have 10 years left? (laughs) I don’t want someone who is too young, hopefully I will meet someone whose mindset matches mine, a lady who has depth. Maybe a lady who’s 4 to 8 years younger than me? (laughs) Ah, 9 years younger is fine too.

-Lastly, let’s talk about the past 11 years for Leeteuk and about his future.

Teuk: It’s hard to say what kind of MC I will turn out to be. The past 10 years made me who I am today, in the next 10 years I will also work hard to become a better person. I want to become a good person who is able to live everyday seriously and give his best at whatever he does.

 

Korean-Chinese Translation: -AnTeuk- [Please take out with full credit]
Chinese-English Translation: @jungsoostan_

 

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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=knCuvLe-b-k

Not sure if this has been posted or anyone has sent this! Thought of just sharing Super Junior explaining what their song Devil means. 

Kangin : You are so cold but also hot means "I'm totally under control of yours". 

Kyu (Brother in law no. 4) : Oh so it is like that? Like hot but cold americano?

LT : no no it isn't (his immediate reaction though hahaha)

"Devil is about the expressing of a man's inner feelings who have deeply fallen in a dangerous love." - Leeteuk 

 

Americano is just a mere black coffee without sugar but when it comes to teukso, it means everything hahahaha! teukso feels !

PS: I tried copy pasting the screenshots but failed, you check out the YouTube link at 01:57 - 02:10 !

 

 

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I'm so sad there has been no postings on this thread for so long :cry: I know there is just not much going on for these two, but I am forever going to be a shipper of Leeteuk and Sora, holding out for news one day that they really are a couple.  It must be time to re-watch their episodes again so I can get a boost.  Hang in ther Teukso shippers, I know I am not alone in this world of delulu :flushed:

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