Joo Won 주원 [Drama- The Midnight Studio/ 야한(夜限) 사진관]

[callmegiggles]

*too lazy to quote but want to comment on Baker King and Ma Jun*

I just finished watching Baker King recently so I remember it more clearly. The writing is bad in a lot of areas and plot doesn't have a good flow or make much sense. I really didnt understand why it had such good ratings. But I really do need to say that they have really good cliffhangers and you're curious as to what happens next so you keep watching. How my mom describes the drama "starts on a high, insanely boring middle bit, snore (she literally falls asleep), exciting last few minutes (she is woken up by the loud BGM. Lol, mom), then they deliver a fantastic cliffhanger." Then she bugs me to watch the next ep but the cycle repeats. *snore*

As for Joowon (sorry Joowonie oppa, I still love you) it was obvious that he was still green. Watching him I can tell that he can really act, emote and deliver but it showed that he lacked experience. And that's ok. Nobody expects you to be perfect with your debut. His debut showed potential and that's promising. (Yes, I'm contrasting him with those rookies that can't emote better than a plank of wood.) What he lacked was a bit of restraint. Might also be the directing and writing style. Characters only seem to live in the extreme side: his momma was psycho in every ep, Takgu was smiling like a doofus all the time, dad always a statue, almost every Ma Jun glare was "imma kill you right now". He lacked "wanna punch you right now", "wanna kick you right now", "wanna beat you up" subtleties. (You know what? It might be the writing. The craziness) But one thing Joowon kept doing was swallowing hard and fast for every raging stare he gave.  That was a little unnatural.  (I hope I didn't upset anyone. Please don't be upset. Cutie lovers love each other too.)

He's doing a wonderful job right now, constantly improving and fine tuning. I loved the way he talked to the bodyguard hyung (lol) on the Vapp broadcast about how he thought through the soup scene. How he would first taste it, find it familiar and start crying. That's just experience and years of study... And just the way we need him to be as an actor. Ten years from now (haha I predict a long future for him) we will all look back to Gaksital and talk about how far he's come.  And this is a good thing! So many k-actors use the same 2 facial expressions and by only that sustained a career spanning a decade and a half.  He's going to last long with all the thinking and improvments. (Dayum, if only I would think half as hard about my job as I do about Joowon I'll probably be going places.)

One day I will watch OB. Maybe when he's in the army. Ugh... worried about the drama scene in those two years.

[mrdimples]

@ecs707a which Ma Jun scene did you like? And which were the ones which 'tore' your heart? 

@callmegiggles your post always makes me laugh. Yeah, I agree that Ma Jun had that 'imma kill you right now" stare for almost everything. But then again, he did want to punch someone most of the time. He had so much anger bottled inside. Oh and no one mentioned the couples in the drama? Tak Gu and Yoo Kyung - snore. Tak Gu and Mi Sun - snore more. Am I bias to say that Ma Jun and Mi Sun sizzled more in the kitchen caper than Tak Gu and Mi Sun ever did? Bad boy Ma Jun licking and eating the cream from Mi Sun's lips was awesome. I can never understand Yoo Kyung's motivation neither do I think she loved Tak Gu. She's probably too consumed by herself to love anyone. Two tortured souls - that's what Yoo Kyung and Ma Jun were. But Ma Jun was very clear in his love for Yoo Kyung. The casting wasn't the most ideal. Joo Won looked too young for Eugene, not that she looks old. But thanks to his height, size, looks and the way he carried himself, Joo Won managed to create chemistry with Eugene. Must have been awkward for someone who once had Eugene's photo under his school desk cover. 

I need to catch up on his vapp broadcast. Which one was it. I must have missed it. Was it the one where he took while they had the celebratory dinner to mark end of Yong Pal's filming? 

Totally agree on actors using the same facial expressions. I was just thinking that it's so tough for actors to come back after MS. As long as Joo Won has the opportunities, he will definitely continue to delight the viewers for a long time. 

[mrdimples]

 

source: http://entertain.naver.com/read?oid=003&aid=0006859470

[김정환의 스크리닝]CGV아트하우스가 없었어도 주원 '그놈이다' 나왔을까?

[Kim JungWhan’s Screening] Would ‘Fatal Intuition’ have come out without CGV Arthouse?

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【서울=뉴시스】김정환 기자 = 지난 4일까지 미스터리 스릴러 ‘그놈이다’(감독 윤준형)의 기세가 무서웠다.

Seoul=newsis  Kim JungWhan reporter = until last 4^th, mytery thriller ‘Fatal Intuition’ (Director Yoon Joon Hyung)’s momentum was scary.

지난달 28일 개봉한 이 영화는 첫날 9만7168명을 모아 9만5416명을 들이는 데 그친 손현주·엄지원·배성우의 스릴러 ‘더 폰’(감독 김봉주)을 끌어내리고 1위에 올랐다.

The movie which open on last 28^th, brought thriller ‘The Phone’ (Director Kim BongJoo) Son Hyun Joo. Um JiWon, Bae SungWoo down and went up to (Box Office) 1^st place.

전날까지 1위를 질주하던 강적을 무너뜨렸으니 이미 ‘더 폰’에 짓눌린 상태였던 맷 데이먼의 할리우드 SF ‘마션’(감독 리들리 스콧)을 발아래 두는 것은 문제도 아니었다. 3위 ‘마션’은 6만4351명을 추가해 누적 411만5285명을 기록한 데 만족해야 했다.

With beating the movie which was in the first place until the day before, placing Hollywood SF ‘Martian’(Director Ridley Scott) was not a problem.  3^rd placed ‘Martian’ added 64,351 and content with final record of 4,115,285.

‘그놈이다’는 마침 같은 달 1일 20%대 시청률로 종방한 SBS TV 드라마 ‘용팔이’ 주연으로 절정의 인기를 누리고 있는 배우 주원이 원톱 주연을 맡고, 지난해 여름 코믹 사극 ‘해적’(감독 이석훈), 올여름 범죄 액션 ‘베테랑’(감독 류승완), 올해 초 tvN 예능 ‘삼시세끼’ 등을 잇달아 히트시키며 ‘제2의 절정기’를 보내는 유해진이 힘을 보탰다. 여기에 그야말로 ‘천의 얼굴’인 신세대 연기파 이유영이 가세했다.

‘Fatal Intuition’ starring JooWon, who successfully acted as main actor in SBS TV drama ‘YongPalYi’ with ratings in 20%, and who is now enjoying the huge popularity, with co-star Yoo HaeJin, who was on last summer’s comedy ‘Pirate’, this summer’s Criminal Action ‘Veteran’, and also on tvN variety show ‘Three Meals.’  Here joined new actress Yi YooYoung known as ‘thousand faces.’

주연배우들 면면으로 보면 메이저 배급사가 투자·배급한 영화이겠구나 싶지만, 스크린에 박히는 배급사명은 ‘CJ엔터테인먼트’가 아니라 ‘CGV아트하우스’다.

Just looking at the actors, one would assume this is a movie a major distributor invested and distributed, however, the distribution name appearing on the screen is not “CJ Entertainment’ but “CGV Art house’.

CGV아트하우스는 멀티플렉스 CJ CGV가 만든 국내외 독립영화, 예술영화, 제3세계 영화 등 즉 다양성 영화 전문 상영 브랜드다. 지난해 10월까지 ‘무비꼴라주’라는 이름을 썼다.

CGV Art House is created by the CJ CGV multiplex.  It is a brand specializing diverse film screening of a domestic and international independent, art films, third world cinema, etc.  Until last October, they used  the name 'movie collage.’

CGV아트하우스는 앞서 지난 2013년 한국 영화계에서 소외된 ‘비주류’에게 기회를 주겠다며 직접 투자·배급에 나섰다.
CGV Arthouse is the main opportunities for marginalized 'non-mainstream' cinema in South Korea, which began last  2013 with direct investment • Distribution.

이후 지난해 3월 김희애·고아성·김유정의 드라마 ‘우아한 거짓말’(감독 이한)을 시작으로 그해 5월 배두나·김새론·송새벽의 드라마 ‘도희야’(감독 정주리)를, 올해 4월 김혜수·김고은의 범죄 드라마 ‘차이나타운’(감독 한준희)과 5월 전도연·김남길의 멜로 누아르 ‘무뢰한’(감독 오승욱) 등을 내놓았다. ‘그놈이다’는 그 다섯째 작품이다.

Last March it began with ‘Elegant Lies’ with Kim HeeAe, Go AhSung, KimYooJung, that year’s May with ‘DoHeeYa’ with Bae DooNa, Kim SaeRon, this year April’s ‘China Town’ with Kim HaeSoon, Kim GoEun, May’s ‘Shameless’ with Jun DoYeon, Kim NamGil.  ‘Fatal Intuition’ is it’s fifth project.

현재 국내 영화 시장을 쥐락펴락하는 메이저 배급사는 여성 주인공, 비인기 장르, 신인감독 연출, 티켓 파워가 떨어지는 주연 배우, 독립·예술영화 등에 매우 인색하다.
Major distributors of the domestic film market is currently very stingy on female protagonist, unpopular genre, new directors directing, starring actor with falling ticket power, independent art films, etc.

이로 인해 영화계에서 특정 장르 편중이나 일부 배우, 소수 감독의 독식 현상이 점점 더 심해진다는 우려가 나오는 가운데 CGV아트하우스가 ‘역주행’하는 셈이다.
As a result, there have been growing concerns about some actors and directors and genres are dominating the market.  In the midst of these growing concerns CGV Arthouse in a  sense, is going against the current.

‘그놈이다’ 흥행을 대중은 ‘주원의 힘’으로 받아들인다. 틀린 말은 아니다.

The public is viewing ‘Fatal Intuition’s good run in the box office as the 'power of Joo Won.’  It’s not wrong.

그러나 주원은 안방극장과 달리 스크린에서 성공을 거두지 못했다. 특히 KBS 2TV 드라마 '각시탈‘(2012), ’굿닥터‘(2013) 등으로 그가 한창 주가를 올린 뒤였지만, 겨울 성수기를 노렸던 2013년 12월18일 로맨스 액션 ‘캐치미’(약 49만명), 대입 수학능력시험 특수를 기대했던 지난해 11월6일 코미디 ‘패션왕’(약 59만명) 등 주연 영화들은 연이어 실패했다.
However, Joo Won has never met with success on the screen, unlike on dramas.  Especially, ‘Catch Me’ ‘Fashion King’ all failed although it was after he has proven himself on TV dramas such as ‘Bridal Mask’, ‘Good Doctor.’

【서울=뉴시스】CGV 아트하우스 로고 마크.

자칫 ‘안방극장 스타’라는 꼬리표가 붙을 처지였던 주원을 올해 3월 크랭크인 한 작품에 주연급으로 캐스팅한다는 것은 메이저 배급사 작품이라면 가능했을까. 아무리 주원이 유해진과 같은 소속사(심엔터테인먼트)이고, 소속사가 공동제작사로 나섰다고 해도 어려울 수밖에 없었을 것이다.

Joo Won being in the situation of being called ‘tv star’ so casting him this March in as a main character by major distributor would not have been possible.  Although JooWon and YooHaeJin are from the same management company (Sim Entertainment) and the management company being part investor, it would have been difficult. 

시나리오와 연출을 도맡아 격찬을 듣고 있는 윤준형 감독도 마찬가지다.

Same with the Yoon JoonHyung PD who wrote the scenario and directed, who is receiving high praises.

독립영화 ‘목두기 비디오’(2003)가 연출한 이후 줄곧 프로듀서로 일해온 신인감독, 그것도 한국예술종합학교 등 유명 대학 영화과나 한국영화아카데미 졸업생이 아닌 공학도(동아대 컴퓨터 공학과) 출신인 그다. 메이저 배급사 아래였다면 아무리 직접 집필한 시나리오라고 해도 메가폰을 잡기 힘들었을 것이다.
After directing independent film 'mokdugi Video "(2003), a rookie PD who has been working as a producer, he’s also not from well-known universities (where major directors are from) such as Korea National University of Arts, School of Film and Korea Film Academy graduate with film major, but he’s from DongA University Computer Science Major.  Even though it’s his own scenario, under a major distributor, it would have been difficult to pick up a megaphone.

게다가 이 영화는 시골 어촌마을, 재개발 지역 등을 배경으로 하고, 귀신, 예언, 무속 등 ‘오컬트(Occult)’를 소재로 하는 등 대중성과 거리가 먼 요소들 일색이니 더욱 그럴 수밖에 없다.

In addition, this film uses a rural fishing village redevelopment area in the background, and has the elements of a ghost, prophecy, shamanism, such as ‘occult (Occult) ,‘ which is far from mainstream popularity.

물론 주원, 유해진이 없었고, CGV아트하우스라는 최소한의 상영관이 확보된 상태가 아니었다면 성공할 수 있었겠느냐는 의문도 남는다.

Of course, without Joo Won, Yoo Hae-jin, and with CGV art house ensuring the minimum of theaters, the state of success of this movie remains in question.

동시에 CGV아트하우스 작품이라는 것이 처음부터 두드러졌다면 대중의 편견과 선입관을 극복할 수 있었을까도 싶다.
At the same time being the CGV art house project from the start, not sure if it could have overcome the prejudices and preconceptions of the public.

태생적 한계를 극복한 ‘그놈이다’는 ‘더 폰’도 눌렀고, 맷 데이먼의 할리우드 SF ‘마션’(감독 리들리 스콧)도 꺾었다. 지난 5일부터는 국내 최대 메이저인 CJ엔터테인먼트가 투자·배급하는 김윤석·강동원의 판타지 호러 ‘검은사제들’(감독 장재현)과 맞붙기 시작했다.

‘Fatal Intuition’ which overcame it’s inherent limitations overcame ‘The Phone’ ‘The Martian’.  From the 5^th it’s going against CJ Entertainment which is the largest major investment • Distribution with Kang DongWon and  Kim Yun-seok’s  fantasy horror 'The Black Priest.'

그러나 예상대로다. ‘검은사제들’의 상대가 되지 못하고 있다.

But it’s as expected.  It’s no match for ‘The Black Priest’.

‘검은사제들’은 개봉 첫날부터 스크린을 독차지(5일 4657회, 6일 4988회, 7일 5983회)하고 있다. 한창 돌풍을 일으키던 첫 주말(10월31일, 11월1일)에도 ‘그놈이다’의 상영횟수가 하루 3200회에 불과했던 것과 대조적이다.

‘The Black Priest’ is hogging the screens from the opening day. (5^th, 4657 showing, 6^th, 4988 showing, 7^th, 5983 showings).   It contrasts the first weekend of ‘Fatal Intuition’ even when it was in full blast powers it only had 3200 showings per day.

이처럼 유리한 조건 아래 ‘검은사제들’은 개봉 3일째인 지난 7일 이미 누적 관객 100만 명을 훌쩍 넘어섰다.

Thus under favorable conditions ‘black priests’ past 100 million cumulative audience within opening of three days.

‘그놈이다’의 상영횟수는 5일부터 하루 1900회대까지 뚝 떨어졌다. 하지만 앞으로 한동안 상위권을 지키고, 곧 누적 관객 100만 명(7일 누적 89만9378명)을 넘어설 것이라는 데 이견은 없다.
‘Fatal Intuition’s showing per day dropped to 1900 per day since 5^th.  But there is no disagreement that in it will keep the top for a while and soon cumulative audience to one million people (7 days accumulated 899,378 people).

지극히 상업적인 메이저 배급사에 “제발 눈을 크게 떠 작품을 발굴하라”고 호소하기에는 지쳤다. 관객이라도 부디 마음을 열고 ‘작은 영화’에도 관심을 두자. 그래야 또 다른 CGV아트하우스도 나올 수 있고, 제2의 ‘그놈이다’도 스크린에 걸리게 된다.

It is becoming exhausting making appeals to the major commercial publishers to, "Please open your eyes wide  and actually discover projects."  Hopefully the audiences at least with an open mind be interested even in the 'little films'.  So another CGV art house and can come out, and the 2^nd  'Fatal Intuition' could be on the screen.

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Translation : sdee 

[callmegiggles]

@mrdimples so true! All the couples were *snore* I literally screamed and cringed when Majun wiped the icing off of Misun... Mostly due to the grossness of it and the rest due to his hotness but that was the strongest emotion I have felt for any pairing in the show. Eugene is a staple in korean drama and I typically find her ok but she didn't do much in this drama. I felt like she didn't deserve the award she won; she wasn't even in the right category ... Like, excuse me KBS, you should've put her into supporting actress category. Misun had more screen time than Eugene. I felt sympathy for the Takgu-Yookyung couple. But what idiotic boy decides not to see a his girl due to a bet? Don't you know how to sneak around? Takgu you lost more brownie points than you earned so you're in the negatives. Yeah I also thought the casting was bad. The pairings were... bland.. and there wasnt enough sizzling chemistry. But still more sizzle from our boy  and LOL at the photo under his school desk cover. We all can totally relate. It's like if we all had an opportunity to act with Joowon in a Korean drama. Maintaining composure is already a feat and you want me to kiss him? OK BRING IT ON. Oops... I mean... Heh. But at least the sizzle is on our side

Yes it was the episode from the celebratory dinner for yongpal, though note that the eng translations are wrong 30% of the time but from our intense Joowon drama rewatch we are probably trained to understand simple Korean phrases to notice what was translated wrongly. That episode in general was great. He spent time talking about fan selected best scenes of the drama and he talked about he acted for each scene. Soup scene was one, and he also mentioned how he deeply considered the delivery of the line where he told Yeojin that he regretted saving her... Yeah it was a nice ep that showed us his though process.

 

[nyk]

 

3 hours ago, mrdimples said:

 

source: http://entertain.naver.com/read?oid=003&aid=0006859470

Translation : sdee 

 

 

Hi everyone, it's nice reading all your comments here. It helps me when I am missing Joowon. 

The translation above about Fatal Intuition is very interesting. I have watched Fatal Intuition already and I like it. Among Joowon's movies, I like this one the most.  I think it is very unique in term of story. I'm not sure but i think in Korea they are not familiar with mysterious things such as superstituion, predicting death, seeing ghosts,  etc. so maybe this is also one of the reasons Joowon chose this project.

I feel like Joowon is popular enough to be received scripts of big projects or from many famous directors. Since he also makes a hit from drama and he is known for his good acting. With his power like this, I think he may be able to work with famous senior actors. Still the projects he worked in , for example; this Fatal intuition, it is quite small and the director is also new like the article above said. Why it's like that..?  

Is it possible that he didn't receive scripts of big projects at all?

or , he only wants to be a single lead and doesn't want other senior actors to steal the scenes? I don't think so......

You know when I think about it, it often makes me confused. Joowon said that he wants to be successful for the movie since he is doing already well for the drama. But his movie projects are always at risk of not being a big hit.

What comes to my mind is that, maybe Joowon has his own particular way of choosing the project. Okay he wants it to be successful/getting box office but that project has to be what he likes to work in as well. It doesn't need to be mainstream movies that become successful right? Perhaps there are many choices of the movies he can select but he chose Fatal Intuition because he likes its unique story and it enables him to change his actor image or color of acting something like that that other choices can't satisfy him. 

I want to express more this but my brain always gets blank when I start to write. lol  

 

Anyway I like Fatal Intuition so much. The scene where he was locked in the jail is so awesomeI.I replay that scene many times.  And I like tough/manly Joowon. I think he is so sexy in this movie even without the topless scene :))  

[ecs707a]

15 hours ago, callmegiggles said:

As for Joowon (sorry Joowonie oppa, I still love you) it was obvious that he was still green. Watching him I can tell that he can really act, emote and deliver but it showed that he lacked experience. And that's ok. Nobody expects you to be perfect with your debut. His debut showed potential and that's promising. (Yes, I'm contrasting him with those rookies that can't emote better than a plank of wood.) What he lacked was a bit of restraint. Might also be the directing and writing style. Characters only seem to live in the extreme side: his momma was psycho in every ep, Takgu was smiling like a doofus all the time, dad always a statue, almost every Ma Jun glare was "imma kill you right now". He lacked "wanna punch you right now", "wanna kick you right now", "wanna beat you up" subtleties. (You know what? It might be the writing. The craziness) But one thing Joowon kept doing was swallowing hard and fast for every raging stare he gave.  That was a little unnatural.  (I hope I didn't upset anyone. Please don't be upset. Cutie lovers love each other too.)

Lol, yeah.  This is definitely true.  But somehow, I don't even factor those things into the evaluation of his acting in that drama.  Or anyone's acting from that show, really.  It's just how it had to be with writing like that.  I mean, how do you have a subtle reaction to poisoning someone, or plotting to poison someone, or being poisoned?  Or any number of other ridiculous plot points in that show.

9 hours ago, mrdimples said:

@ecs707a which Ma Jun scene did you like? And which were the ones which 'tore' your heart? 

@callmegiggles your post always makes me laugh. Yeah, I agree that Ma Jun had that 'imma kill you right now" stare for almost everything. But then again, he did want to punch someone most of the time. He had so much anger bottled inside. Oh and no one mentioned the couples in the drama? Tak Gu and Yoo Kyung - snore. Tak Gu and Mi Sun - snore more. Am I bias to say that Ma Jun and Mi Sun sizzled more in the kitchen caper than Tak Gu and Mi Sun ever did? Bad boy Ma Jun licking and eating the cream from Mi Sun's lips was awesome. I can never understand Yoo Kyung's motivation neither do I think she loved Tak Gu. She's probably too consumed by herself to love anyone. Two tortured souls - that's what Yoo Kyung and Ma Jun were. But Ma Jun was very clear in his love for Yoo Kyung. The casting wasn't the most ideal. Joo Won looked too young for Eugene, not that she looks old. But thanks to his height, size, looks and the way he carried himself, Joo Won managed to create chemistry with Eugene. Must have been awkward for someone who once had Eugene's photo under his school desk cover.

I don't know!  I never rewatched it at all, but I do remember starting out enjoying Baker King on that level where it's total crack but I would never be able to describe it as good?  Like that.  But at some point I realized that I somehow really, genuinely felt bad for Ma Jun.  And I can't blame the bias that I would definitely have now, but didn't then, because I didn't even know who he was back then.  And OB was only airing just then, so I hadn't seen him anywhere else either (but guess what I watched right after Baker King? Haha). 

Any scene where Ma Jun was sad or tortured or whatever.  He totally owned those.

I do have to say about the couples that they got the ending right.  They probably really need some serious therapy, but Ma Jun and Yoo Kyung did understand each other.  And like Ma Jun said in that over-the-top sobbing in the kitchen scene at the end, Ma Jun can't understand Tak Gu, even after they come to an understanding.  That's more realistic than a lot of drama endings.  I think Yoo Kyung and Tak Gu would have been headed straight for a divorce if they ever got married, lol.  Let boring Mi Sun and boring Tak Gu be boring together eternally.  I normally just don't care one way or the other who ends up with whom, and hate (really, really haaate...) when dramas belabor the point, but it would have ruined it for me if Tak Gu and Yoo Kyung ended up together.  It's one drama where the "romance", such as it was, actually kind of worked for me.  (And...what does that say about me?)

7 hours ago, callmegiggles said:

@mrdimples so true! All the couples were *snore* I literally screamed and cringed when Majun wiped the icing off of Misun... Mostly due to the grossness of it and the rest due to his hotness but that was the strongest emotion I have felt for any pairing in the show. Eugene is a staple in korean drama and I typically find her ok but she didn't do much in this drama. I felt like she didn't deserve the award she won; she wasn't even in the right category ... Like, excuse me KBS, you should've put her into supporting actress category. Misun had more screen time than Eugene. I felt sympathy for the Takgu-Yookyung couple. But what idiotic boy decides not to see a his girl due to a bet? Don't you know how to sneak around? Takgu you lost more brownie points than you earned so you're in the negatives. Yeah I also thought the casting was bad. The pairings were... bland.. and there wasnt enough sizzling chemistry. But still more sizzle from our boy  and LOL at the photo under his school desk cover. We all can totally relate. It's like if we all had an opportunity to act with Joowon in a Korean drama. Maintaining composure is already a feat and you want me to kiss him? OK BRING IT ON. Oops... I mean... Heh. But at least the sizzle is on our side

I don't know.  I would have considered Yoo Kyung way more worthy of being called a lead than Mi Sun.  In terms of importance to the story, she definitely outranks Mi Sun.  Mi Sun was just sort of there, and almost disposable as an actual character.  Consolation prize for Tak Gu. 

Baker King: still really, really not good.  Haha.  But now I kind of want to watch it again anyway.  But I am still sane, as far as I can tell, so it's not going to happen.  And I just spent way too long writing about a really bad drama.   I'll go do something more productive now.

[Ma OO]

Interesting~

I will not say JW does not get good roles from famous directors or distributors.He does(look at Ci Si Bon) but not as a lead,rather second leads or side characters. It understandable,Joo Won is still young,he needs more experience to headline those movies. Because for movies,I will not say all,but the most go for polished and realistic acting.I am not saying JW is not but after watching FI,comparing his and YHJ acting,he still has room for improvement.He still need to improve a lot if he wants to be courted by famous directors as male lead.Which I believe he will be in no time.

Also,his popularity.His popularity is neither here or there.Not sooo famous to sell millions like his peers.Some of his peers movies get millions admissions with their popularity despite lacking in some areas.

I feel that SIM needs to stop forcing JW to headline some "third" rated movies. Rather than headlining them,they should put him as second or third lead in high-profile movies.Then,gain trust from directors slowly.

[gilaswan]

KDramas in 2010 (BKKTG) and today are very different. The audience is spoilt for choice these days, so while we find it surprising BKKTG managed to get such high ratings, tastes are different today, plus, you can't even dream of going very far beyond 10% these days. That YongPal went above 20% is a huge feat by all counts! Even Pinocchio which I thoroughly enjoyed and watched multiple times managed only 15.2% at its highest. 

18 hours ago, callmegiggles said:

... almost every Ma Jun glare was "imma kill you right now". He lacked "wanna punch you right now", "wanna kick you right now", "wanna beat you up" subtleties. (You know what? It might be the writing. The craziness) But one thing Joowon kept doing was swallowing hard and fast for every raging stare he gave.  That was a little unnatural.  (I hope I didn't upset anyone. Please don't be upset. Cutie lovers love each other too.)

I totally burst out laughing reading this. Hahaha... But from the storyline, he had every reason so be that angry young man. Unfortunately, I have met such angry young people before and it truly destroys the person. Would Joo Won not have mustered some bit of those traits in his MaJun character too? Just wanted to say though - I think what's different about Joo Won's fans (and I'd like to believe I'm being absolutely objective here) is that we enjoy watching our Joowonie grow and improve. That's where a true fan base is.

[mrdimples]

1 hour ago, Ma OO said:

Interesting~

I will not say JW does not get good roles from famous directors or distributors.He does(look at Ci Si Bon) but not as a lead,rather second leads or side characters. It understandable,Joo Won is still young,he needs more experience to headline those movies. Because for movies,I will not say all,but the most go for polished and realistic acting.I am not saying JW is not but after watching FI,comparing his and YHJ acting,he still has room for improvement.He still need to improve a lot if he wants to be courted by famous directors as male lead.Which I believe he will be in no time.

Also,his popularity.His popularity is neither here or there.Not sooo famous to sell millions like his peers.Some of his peers movies get millions admissions with their popularity despite lacking in some areas.

I feel that SIM needs to stop forcing JW to headline some "third" rated movies. Rather than headlining them,they should put him as second or third lead in high-profile movies.Then,gain trust from directors slowly.

 

I agree that Joo Won has room for improvement in his acting but I disagree that the acting I see in Korean movies is always better than in dramas. Neither are they more polished or realistic. I refer to a couple of K movies I have seen recently and will say something which is definitely against popular opinion, I don't find Hwang Jung Min particularly good. He is acknowledged to be one of the best, isn't he? I don't know about him and just judge from what I have seen of him in Ode to My Father and the Veteran. I actually find some of these famous movie actors acting more or less the same in each movie. Even Song Kang Ho who I like. Partly, it's because the characters they often play have the same characteristics. 

I don't know enough of the k movie or drama scene to comment on why there's such a clear or artificial distinction between drama and movie actors. Probably happens in Hollywood and elsewhere. My guess is that K movies are loath to try out new faces so the opportunities aren't exactly open. They rather offer roles to the same bunch of actors over and over again. Yes, these actors have earned their places and most of experienced and good. However, I think the production houses need to take more risk in trying out new genre, new stories, new actors. Frankly, I am sick of seeing the same old faces and the same story lines. But since risk means higher chance of losing money, very few will stick their necks out to try. At this rate, I predict that K movie scene will be as dead to me as Hong Kong movies. 

[Ma OO]

3 hours ago, mrdimples said:

 

I agree that Joo Won has room for improvement in his acting but I disagree that the acting I see in Korean movies is always better than in dramas. Neither are they more polished or realistic. I refer to a couple of K movies I have seen recently and will say something which is definitely against popular opinion, I don't find Hwang Jung Min particularly good. He is acknowledged to be one of the best, isn't he? I don't know about him and just judge from what I have seen of him in Ode to My Father and the Veteran. I actually find some of these famous movie actors acting more or less the same in each movie. Even Song Kang Ho who I like. Partly, it's because the characters they often play have the same characteristics. 

I don't know enough of the k movie or drama scene to comment on why there's such a clear or artificial distinction between drama and movie actors. Probably happens in Hollywood and elsewhere. My guess is that K movies are loath to try out new faces so the opportunities aren't exactly open. They rather offer roles to the same bunch of actors over and over again. Yes, these actors have earned their places and most of experienced and good. However, I think the production houses need to take more risk in trying out new genre, new stories, new actors. Frankly, I am sick of seeing the same old faces and the same story lines. But since risk means higher chance of losing money, very few will stick their necks out to try. At this rate, I predict that K movie scene will be as dead to me as Hong Kong movies. 

 

What you are talking about is typecasting and not their real abilities.But then did u watch a certain amt of his movies before?HJM is awesome actor in my eyes and to most ppl too. For me,I prefer movies over dramas recently hence I watched a lot of movies instead of wasting times on some boring dramas.

I am not saying all the movie actors are better than TV actors and all the movies are better than TV series.But significant amount of them are better. 

Without being biased,I can see that Joo Won is the best of his generation and better than some other actors.But not that level to headline high profile movies alone.He still needs to prove that to gain trust from good directors.And for audience.That's me included.To do so,he need to do it step by step.A good role that is not the lead is better than being the lead in second rated movies.Or become very famous to the point where,Joo Won= millions admissions.

[mrdimples]

1 hour ago, Ma OO said:

 

What you are talking about is typecasting and not their real abilities.But then did u watch a certain amt of his movies before?HJM is awesome actor in my eyes and to most ppl too. For me,I prefer movies over dramas recently hence I watched a lot of movies instead of wasting times on some boring dramas.

I am not saying all the movie actors are better than TV actors and all the movies are better than TV series.But significant amount of them are better. 

Without being biased,I can see that Joo Won is the best of his generation and better than some other actors.But not that level to headline high profile movies alone.He still needs to prove that to gain trust from good directors.To do so,he need to do it step by step.A good role that is not the lead is better than being the lead in second rated movies.Or become very famous to the point where,Joo Won= millions admissions.

 

I suppose that's the case. Then they are terribly typecasted, to the extent that to a newbie to HJM like me, I can't see his awesomeness. I did disclaim that I only watched his two recent movies when I stated my opinion.

I was impressed with K movies a few years ago but I think they are getting nowhere better than k dramas which I think is suffering from the same old rehashed plots. I have noted that a few k dramas going against the norm but success is elusive. That's why I believe that simply theory of market giving what the consumers want prevails. I just finished Village- The Secret of Achiara which I found to be much better than She Was Pretty which topped that particular time slot. That's my personal opinion and my preference. However, I believe most viewers love romance no matter how insane or inane. The Village had zero romance but much better acting which did not come from the lead but from the entire cast. SWP was fronted by 3 very popular actors and over the top romance hijinks. In my opinion, Village took the risk and there was no fairytale ending. Yong Pal was also no shoe in because the genre isn't very clear. It wasn't purely melo, it wasn't your typical romance, it was a mix bag of things. Call me bias but I think Joo Won was instrumental in making Yong Pal successful. 

I think Joo Won can definitely headline high profile movies and I don't think I am bias to say that. However, I doubt they will ever give him the opportunity. It's not just him, they rarely give it to any actor who's not in the circle. That's why I think this kind of approach and mindset will set the industry on the downhill, if it has not already started. That said, I agree that Joo Won should choose movies which are good even if it means he will have to play a supporting role. There's nothing wrong with that at all and I don't think Joo Won chooses not to do so. Rather, I think he's not given the opportunity,

[tokkimoon]

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[yongsital]

Soompi insisted I had the wrong password for two days.  

Baker King...lol. I'm also in the lot of viewers who found the situations extremely ridiculous but just couldn't stop watching. If anything, what I liked the most about BK was that Joowon worked with Yoon Shi Yoon XD (im fond of him). Pity they had such a crazy storyline to act in.

[mrdimples]

2 hours ago, bjvipb2uty said:

Soompi insisted I had the wrong password for two days.  

Baker King...lol. I'm also in the lot of viewers who found the situations extremely ridiculous but just couldn't stop watching. If anything, what I liked the most about BK was that Joowon worked with Yoon Shi Yoon XD (im fond of him). Pity they had such a crazy storyline to act in.

 

And I thought I had amnesia! Was so sure that I remember my password but soompi just kept insisting. Best of all when I press reset, nothing came through my email. But I saw that others didn't have the problem on other threads. 

Yes, Baker King was OTP makjang and I couldn't stop watching. Probably @callmegiggles was right about their use of cliffhangers and they were instrumental in reeling in the viewers. Soapy, melo, family dramas is a tried and tested formula. You don't get creativity nor anything outstanding but you do get your audience. 

Joo Won and YSY were so cute in their BTS. I always wonder if they still keep in touch. I remember that JW mentioned YSY during Win Win, he had thought that the show invited YSY. 

I have been searching for dramas to watch and tried a few. Watching some actors made me appreciate Joo Won even more. I realized it's so difficult to act differently in each role. Days ago, I brought up famous respected names in the movie industry. These are all renown actors, no one would dare criticize their skills. Yet because they often play similar characters or characters in different roles but similar characteristics, it's hard to differentiate. Joo Won has deliberately chosen roles which are different from each other, this widen his repertoire and hones ability to widen his range. Even if he has to play the role of say a law enforcer or policeman more than once, he played each of them differently. Take for example Yong Pal, would Tae Hyun have the same angst of Ma Jun, the smirks and street smarts of Lee Kang To? Or the arrogance of Cha Yoo Jin? Nope, Tae Hyun had his own unique brand of badass, street smarts, brilliance and arrogance. 

[NouroA]

our Yeo-Jin and Tae-Hyun are nominated for Best Couple in SBS Award 2015.

http://program.sbs.co.kr/builder/voteEndView.do?pgm_id=22000008875&pgm_build_id=13406&pgm_mnu_id=40212&voteDiv=10000000049

[moonandhearts]

I missed this thread! I missed you guys! And most of all, I miss our Cutie!!!!!! T_T Any casting news for his upcoming Kdrama?

btw, speaking of SBS Awards Festival, some of you might want to try your luck to get either tickets to the Drama Festival or even an autograph of Cutie:

http://english.visitkorea.or.kr/enu/FU/FU_EN_15.jsp?nCategoryID=1&SearchType=&keyword=&gotoPage=1&cid=2041865&cCode=&nCategoryID=&searchType=&searchKeyword=

I think there's also a Yongpal Exhibition somewhere there.

If only I could fly to Korea then... *sigh*

[callmegiggles]

32 minutes ago, NouroA said:

our Yeo-Jin and Tae-Hyun are nominated for Best Couple in SBS Award 2015.

http://program.sbs.co.kr/builder/voteEndView.do?pgm_id=22000008875&pgm_build_id=13406&pgm_mnu_id=40212&voteDiv=10000000049

Yesssss! Any news on the best actor nominations? I'm working my way through the page with my broken Korean understanding but almost perfect hangul reading (useless) and I don't see a page for it but I don't trust myself  

[gentlelily12]

47 minutes ago, NouroA said:

our Yeo-Jin and Tae-Hyun are nominated for Best Couple in SBS Award 2015.

http://program.sbs.co.kr/builder/voteEndView.do?pgm_id=22000008875&pgm_build_id=13406&pgm_mnu_id=40212&voteDiv=10000000049

Yeah! Please....I want them to win and be on the same stage!

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[callmegiggles]

8 minutes ago, gentlelily12 said:

Yeah! Please....I want them to win and be on the same stage!

 

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OMG yes! And play a kiss or better still a kiss BTS and have them answer a question that puts them in a sticky situation (ala best couple award for Joowon and Moon Chae Won). I would love to see them stammer or blush or think up a witty answer

[tokkimoon]

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오늘도 촬영장으로~~ 비오네요~~~^^ 좋은하루 보내시오~~



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